Its not used to fly in every iteration, and no in reality it would not disorient someone like in the game. Thats why in live action its never used for that i think it may have been in keatons batman but i forgot
I think what it is Video maker you wore probably uncomfortble cosplay Batman's cape is made from special fabrics for gliding and combat it is a tool and a weapon to stun people as well plus he's trained with it for a longer time.
Something you've forgotten and it's something almost every cape wearer has done in the comics: emergency blanket. Batman has been seen to remove the cape and drape it over a victim to help calm them down. The heavy weight of the cape would theoretically act like a security blanket, not to mention the symolism of hiding within the wings of Gotham's knight. Plus a lot of the weight is explained to be engineered to be a silent fabric, so the rustle and pops of a cheap made cape would be nullified by this effect. I kept hearing "I had problems" or "I experienced". Thing is, you're not Batman. You don't have the resources or the training of the bat and so your experience cannot match.
youtubers need to stfu about the realism in fiction , batman is not real wich is why everything makes sense in his fiction world , outside that there is only nitpicking , like saying sups laser vision should not work in real life , no sht .
@@crisalcantara7671 this exactly, I know it's pretty unrelated but that's why I also get so tired of costume discourse and people complaining about the underwear on the outside, like bro this dude can fly, blow out ice, shoot lasers out his eyes and lift a car with his pinkie, why are we focusing on his suit trunks being unrealistic
To quote Batman Begins, "Theatricality and deception are powerful agents." It's part of making Batman seem like more than a man. It also helps breaking us his silhouette while sneaking around, frequently has weighted tips to act as a weapon, and in modern incarnation has become a glider.
Great explanation. Yes, it can help with hiding and distorting his silhouette. Plus I would think it makes him appear more mysterious and frightening to the criminals. Kind of like a Dracula thing. He would look much different without it. Also makes him appear larger and more intimidating.
If caught in a explosion fireproof/Kevlar weave could save your ass. Gets caught in a closing door, tangled in a fight...pros and cons...batman's a pro who fights cons...I think he knows what's up lol.
Batman is the only hero to which a cape can be useful at different ways. First, stealth. Human brain is wired to detect easily the hidden or parcial form of another humans or animals, this is critical for our survival, and instinctive. But the cape changes the basic shape of Batman's body, so if a tug glances at him in the dark, he'll probably dismiss this taking him as just a spot on the wall. Second, combat. Used correctly, the cape hid the real body behind as a target, making it harder to properly take aim at Batman. Third, protection: if the cape isn't made of vulgar fabric (it doesn't), can offer some protection against fire, knives, objects tossed on him (like toxic vials), etc. Fourth, can be used as a weapon to confuse or entangle a close opponent, like renaissance fencers . Bruce watched Zorro as a child and know how it works nicely. Fifth, utilities like the paraglider version. Finally, the dramatic effect. Batman needs to appear as big as possible and look like a bat or a kind of vampire. He needs to be scary.
Unlike most caped heroes, Batman having a cape is actually practical and useful, with it he can shield civilians. If he has no cape then he would be less effective at protecting civilians against certain dangers. The cape is an important aspect of Batman, as he can make it work as more of a positive than a negative, he has worked his cape partially into his fighting style. His cape isn't like a cosplayers cape, it can in most cases do more, allows him to glide across the city with ease, it's bullet and flame resistant, which is great for protection of himself and as I said, of civilians. Having no powers means he needs to find creative ways to keep up, I feel the cape definitely gives him an edge that he otherwise wouldn't have. Plus yea, it just looks awesome on him.
I remember a Batman Beyond comic explained that he wore a cape for two reasons: first, because of the whole thing about criminals being superstitious, as the cape looked like giant bat wings in the night, and the tactical reason was for misdirection, because the cape hides the body, makes it harder to target him. And in the Arkham games, you can cape stun an enemy to perform a beat down
In comics, his cape is bulletproof and besides gliding, it also helps him appear menacing and formless like a shadow entity. It also helps hiding him in darkness and in stealth. Despite it's sturdiness, the cape can be discarded easily. However, not everyone has the skill to use it. He's Batman after all.
That's what I'm saying the cake is an entire another level of Kevlar or other bullet and knife proof substances. That means any projectile would have to get through the cape and then his armor.
He has a cape because in May, 1939, amost all of the really popular superheroes had them. There was also a lineage: The Shadow had a trenchcoat that was strongly reminiscent of a cape. It's the same reason Superman has trunks: circus strongmen of the era had them as part of their costumes.
Zorro may not be part of the superhero genre but he definitely falls under Cape category in the era of the rising popularity of Cape culture in literature and Cinema.
Actually Zorro is an the super hero genre he's a superhero too . There wouldn't be any other super heroes if it wasn't for Zoro like there wouldn't be super heroes if it wasn't for doc Savage as well @@jmk0512
Anyone who agrees with "No Capes" was definitely introduced to Superheros through "The Incredibles". Capes are very useful when you need them tactically or as part of your way of psychological warfare the way Batman uses it. There's also the heroes who it just works for aesthetically that don't necessarily need to worry about consequences of potential cape based accidents like Superman.
My first "no caps" was from a old Spiderman (i think comic but could been cartoon). In it he goes on a minor rant about how he would never be able to move the way he does with it on. It just made the Incredibles so much funnier when I was watching it with my kids.
Having a super long cape definitely isn't practical. A short one that can be unrolled or detached quickly would be very useful. Or maybe a Poncho that can quick slip into a longer cape.
Yeah Superman iconically in the Max Fleischer Animated Short Films used his invulnerable red cape to shield Lois Lane from being incinerated by molten steel.
Mind you I am a no cape person but for Batman it works. Another thing that helps Batman to have a cape is the stage magic. Batman uses slight of hand and other stage magic offend. If nothing else he may palm something from the belt and use it as a surprise attack. The Cap helps hide his hands when doing this. The cap may even help hide his identity as it is harder to tell his shape and build as when it flairs he looks so big but when pulled in make him look slimmer. In a world where glasses help to hide you this would have a massive effect.
- The cape helps him glide - The cape helps him to break falls. - It helps him look inhuman, like a demon under the shadows. - Like we've seen in the Arkham games, he can use it offensively. - Like we saw in the Flash movie, it can be used defensively. - He looks absolutely badass with the cape.
Comic character to look up The Black Bat. Hey just looked up the Black Bat again and his look been changed he now has a full cape that was not the Black Bats orginal look he first had short underarm half cape that was just for looks when he get a full cape, hate that change, also hated when Marvel changed Moon Knight cape to full cape , i thought his orginal half cape was unique look for him, and the black & white costume style was orginal look as well, hate the newer versions of Moon Knight .
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I think the most useful scenario is using the cape during the stealth and when going to the action, throwing the cape to one of the enemies to blindside them. When the fight is done, Batman can re-wear the cape.
That's like saying why Superman wears a cape,why Spawn has one,why trench coats are impractical do you see what I mean,I get minor disadvantages to them but also there disadvantages to wing suits as well,this is just my opinion but instead of concerning ourselves with something Edna mode said in a good superhero movie let's just be in awe of how epic and awesome capes and such are. Plus Because he's Batman!!
I always believed the cape should be tucked in an armored pack much like the scene in Hong kong during The Dark Knight. With the right sensor it could open automatically while falling. I imagine it opening in a way more like a beetle. I also feel it is important to fire proof himself.
He can wrap himself or completely cover the color of the suit. He blends into the night. Hence, the Dark Knight. He's had years to find a way to use it to his advantage. Without the cape, he just wouldn't be Batman.
First, remember he needs to have at least some resemblance to a bat, and the cape helps that to be a possibility. Be sure that you realize that Batman’s cape is often misrepresented in film and tv, and occasionally even in the comics they forget. As Batman’s cape is quite a bit thicker than what most people would expect or think. His cape really doesn’t have the ability to freely flow in a light wind as it’s so often presented. It’s also used as a protective shield, it has the ability to become rigid when needed and aid him in flight or free falling in a manner that allows him to control his fall. It also aids him in giving him a more ominous, formidable or aggressive appearance, giving him a bit more ability to inspire fear in his opponents just as it helps him appear more heroic to those he’s trying to help/protect. I’m pro cape because I firmly believe the pros far outweigh the cons.
cara, vamos falar sobre o barulho da capa, sim, ela pode atrapalhar na furtividade entregando a sua localização,mas também pode ajudar na figura aterrorizante de morcego se espreitando nas sombras pronta para silencia-lo...
Batman wears a cape because when the character was created it was just normal for superheroes to have a cape . Bruce Wayne chose to wear one to use it as part of his fear tactic . True they get in the way but it does look cool . Having cosplayed Batman a few times I can say that with the cape done right kids and adults are stunned by how cool you look in the suit . In the end weather your Darth Vader , Doctor Strange or Batman capes are not really practical but they look cool.
@jmk0512 first batman story "the chemical syndicate" was lifted from the shafpw story partnets of peril lol. But yeah in that story the shadow was described as "bat like" because of the cape.
Fun piece. Of course, the functionality or non can be written and drawn anyway the artist wants the cape to 'behave'. Like you said, adding it to a real world setting, it would totally be an encumbrance. Nolan handled the 'why' beautifully making it a strategic tool of escape or transport. But again, movie magic doesn't ever show how Keaton to Pattinson had to deal with it. Burton even said in -89 they had different capes for different scenes based on what the actor/stuntman were doing. Some heavier when he's just lurking. Others lighter when he's fighting or making dramatic movements that showed off the cape 'in the wind'. Hell they even had a guy just do some of the walking because he did it so fluidly in the cape. Fun piece though.
Out of all the characters you could have picked, Batman is probably the worst example, because his cape has at least four uses in-universe, while with people like Superman it has... uhhh... one. I think there's exactly one reason, that is that Kryptonian formal uniform looked like that and Superman is essentially wearing the Kryptonian equivalent of a suit. Batman? The cape is made speficifally for fighting, allows for gliding in the air, acts as a shield against fire and bullets, makes his body harder to register by breaking his shape into a dark lump... and of course, Batman does have an element of theatricality which most people would dismiss as being just for show, but when dealing with human criminals, intimidation and psychological factor is just as important as the practicality, because enemies taken by your presence will tend to make more mistakes
Great video! As much as I love Batman, I think Marvel's Night Thrasher is the best design for a modern realistic superhero. Helmet and body armour in a black and red aesthetic (perfect for blending into the dark), and no dangling bits anywhere. Also, he's got his nightsticks to aid in combat.
You could legitimately use the argument that any tool on your person used incorrectly is a hindrance rather than an asset, now in real life if a "vigilante " , where to wear a cape would there be some disadvantages sure, however any tool that you use even properly does have it's limitations, however, if you use the tool in question correctly and you know how to use it effectively in a combat situation and also use your surroundings to your advantage then any limitations your tool may have is ultimately negligible. And to be frank we are discussing Batman he knows how use his tools to great affect and he is a master of using his surroundings to his advantage. Now would all his tactics actually work as shown in comics and movies in the real world, not as they are portrayed in cinema no, but they could work if one were to do research and just pay attention to how society actually is, and if you're a good strategist, then yes some of his tactics can be used in the real world even using the cape, you just have to know how to use it, and the most effective way to use it. Just like any tool.
Batman’s cape isn’t just for the aesthetic of it, his cape actually serves a very important purpose and function, as it allows for him to either glide around the city, as well as be able to safely get to ground without being so reliant on his grapple gun. Unlike Batman, Superman is one superhero that could probably go either with or without a cape as his cape doesn’t really serve any other function.
Just a guess since I haven’t watched the video yet and I don’t have access to much Batman content: He uses it to safely get down from buildings and to blend into his surroundings. Or he just wants to be edgy either is possible 😭
In recent years, it has been shown as sort of a glider he can use sort of like a BASE jumping suit. But it is mostly because it resembles the wings of a bat.
As someone who wears a medievaly style cape/cloak as a regular part of my colder weather wear: Oi, don't diss the warm, comfortable, delightfully dramatic and flowy, rain proof, incredible drip! It's also not all that inconvenient for moving around, sitting down, performing daily tasks, being a passenger in a car, going groccery shopping or whatever else. Though lenght (I went with down to my knees for sake of keeping it clean and limiting weight), material, age, quality, and how well it's tailored to the one wearing it do decide a lot of things. Plus how experiences one is at wearing it. I am every year eager to bust out my cape, purely because how comfortable (and delightful) it is to wear when it starts to get colder. A coat, even a thicker winter one, can be worn under it easily. If it starts to rain I just toss up the hood and I am good to go. Worth remembering that not every cape is the same, just as not every coat is the same. A lot of factors go into it, plus becoming used to some of the quirks they can come with.
Sooooooo, do you guys think capes will be a hot new fashion trend in the future? Say some super popular celebrity or influencer starts wearing a cape and all the little fans and followers start doing it. Then fashion brands try to cash in on the craze. Gucci capes. Louis Vuitton capes. Then DC and Marvel.
To be fair, I’m sure Bruce has trained himself to compensate for the disadvantages. The Cape has. He’s probably so used to it at this point, but he can tell his keepers long enough to get snagged on something he’s standing close to and then act appropriately. And since the Cape serves a functional practical use in traversal and misleading his enemies, I think the benefits outweigh the drawbacks in his specific case. Plus, you have to remember that when he first dawned the mask, he wanted criminals to be afraid of him, so having a large imposing cape similar to that of a vampire would help with that aesthetic
One reason Bruce probably didn't have a suit like Beyond could be boiled down to practicality. His traditional outfit (regardless of version) is extremely practical once you consider how often he has to fix it, and if you consider that despite all his toys, his suit and basic batarangs are probably the easiest to slip through the records. And as technology became more prominent, the suit never really had to contend with the problems of more advanced enemies hacking it, like what happens to McGinnis multiple times. Also consider Bruce was a peak human for quite some time, he was capable and clearly had a "not broke, don't fix" mentality, only pulling out powered suits and armors for specific situations. By the time of the original Beyond series, he was probably finally starting to run into some barriers as age was finally starting to get him, thus the Beyond suit, which served him until his body literally could no longer take the abuse of stress.
Nolan's Batman has a cape that doubles as a glider. The cape aids in stealth as it is solid dark blue or black. The cape is a weapon (see Jackie Chan in the Young Master where he and a young woman fight in a long flowing skirt. Same principle.) In the comics, he could use his cape to glide down from the tops of buildings.
The Batman 2004 uses cape as a tool for fighting. Like when he used cape to flip penguin into the air to kick him. And cape has armor to shield himself from mr.freezes ice attacks.
If i ever had the opportunity to write a batman story. Id have the cape be a memory fabric that can change shape. Become longer. Or dramtically shorter. Fan out to glide. Or become ridge as a sheild. It's almost like a piece of tactical shape shifting armor.
Batman's cape has a couple of uses. It's weighted, so he can actually use it as a weapon. Also, depending on what version of his suit he has on at the moment, it can be bullet proof, fire proof and it can also help him glide around.
The cape is like a cobra's hood, enhancing his physical threat. It also alters his silhouette - criminals shooting at what they think is center mass aren't even touching his armor, saving on wear and tear and bruises. Also, aside from gliding, it blunts damage from fire and debris - samurai armor used banners to minimize arrow damage.
in one episode of batman the animated series he covers a giant teddy bear with his pushes out to look like he is moving out into the open so the thugs shoot it so he can get the jump on them
No mention of the cape sometimes acting as a literal shield. Batman's cape has been used as a fire blanket, and has been bulletproof depending on how his gear is written in a story. It's also been used as a decoy in tricky situations. In Mask of the Phantasm, he used it to help him escape the police by throwing it on a sawhorse and grappled the whole thing to a police chopper. I love the cape as part of the character's design, and how it can be written in as part of his arsenal. In all practicality I do think it'd be a lot more trouble than it would be worth.
Basically the dude likes to kneel on the ledges of tall buildings and wants to be dry and warm. But i bet sometimes he just wants to take a dump and doesent want to get jumped. Its probably an uncomfortable moment when your trying to drop a duece and you hear the sound of a coin flip or the joker trying to tell you how he got his scars.
In one movie batman forever you use it to guard himself against flames so it's fireproof. It symbolizes the bats wings when he glides making an entrance. And by imitating a bat he terrifies the criminal element who are superstitious.
the issue you're facing with the "Modern Cape" vs the utilitization of the medieval armor cape... that cape you were wearing probably weighed less than 20% of the Armor Cloak. As such, its physical properties didn't really allow for sitting on it as it was a lot more rigid. however, the armor style cape is weighted and multi-plied giving it much higher durability at the cost of extra weight. Armor cloaks were also necessary against natural elements like rain, snow, and dusty winds.
Batman’s cape is used to make him appear as an apparition, as does his cowl. He’s not simply some guy in body armor running around fighting criminals. He’s meant to serve as a shadowy urban folklore of a punisher of the wicked. Most of the city doesn’t even think he’s real. Crime bosses of the goons who get thwarted think their men are mentally unstable. Hell, most of those goons aren’t even sure of what they encountered that night or if it was even human. The cape and the smoke is all apart of that mystique. If you think the Arkham games are the most accurate description of the character, you know very little about the character.
I think the best capes are the dark knight and arkam capes as they let him glide. As long as the cape at least does that then I think the cape ks justified. Other capes features I like is the fire proof like in batman forever, using it combate situations, and using it for fear like in batman 89. Also I feel that his cape at least the outside should always be black so especially when he is in a grey suit he can be stealthier
The cape is very essential, The cape is used as wings so he can glide down buildings or high places. The bat cape is also used as a shield and was shown in BVS in the warehouse. He also uses it to disorient enemies and block their vision or to block himself as shown in the batman arkham games.. Addition to all that, it also gives the visuals of a wing, like a bat. It's also visually appealing. Therefore, no, capes aren't stupid they are a cosmetic and can be used to the advantage of the user.
It was provided in both watch men movie and in the incredibles just how bad capes are. By getting trapped in revolving doors and getting gunned down or by getting sucked into a plane engine
In part it’s to break up his silhouette. Our brains pick out patterns very easily, and a human shaped shadow gets noticed quickly. But not if it doesn’t really LOOK like the human body.
There is a fine tradition of martial artist using tassles and flags on the weapons as a form of distraction, lowering the defense of their opponents. Batman uses his cape in the same way, even concealing his hands with it while pulling something out of his utility belt. Of course I don't think someone could just put on a cape and automatically do the same thing as Batman. One must remember that Batman has been in the vigilante game for around twenty years, if not more. He had quite a lot of time learning to integrate his cape into his fighting style and how to avoid the disadvantages of having a cape. Special note: The robins capes are a lot smaller and intrusive than his, meaning he purposely avoiding giving them the same disadvantages he has when they started their vigilante career.
-intimidation Makes him appear larger Makes him look like a monster Obscures his body -using to glide -using as shield Tradition -knight etc -Combat -can be used as weapon -can be used to mask his attacks The intimidation part seems most important. Without the cape he looks like a freerunner with a weird suit.
What would Batman be without a cape?
A bat with no wings wouldn't look like a bat.
The cape is as much a character as Batman.
Exactly
Until we get to Batman Beyond.
@@damianwolfe613 where its still honoured, he coulda gone full ironman but instead kept the cape, just retractable
@@damianwolfe613 that’s not Bruce Wayne Batman
@@damianwolfe613 I’ve seen the Batman beyond suit with a cape it looked better
The cape is a tool that can be used as weapon. Plus it allows him to glide through the sky and float down to the ground.
Its not used to fly in every iteration, and no in reality it would not disorient someone like in the game. Thats why in live action its never used for that i think it may have been in keatons batman but i forgot
Baleman sure glided with the cape@@step2807
Thank you bro preach it preach it soooo true.
I think what it is Video maker you wore probably uncomfortble cosplay Batman's cape is made from special fabrics for gliding and combat it is a tool and a weapon to stun people as well plus he's trained with it for a longer time.
If it is retractable yes. But leave it out all the time and eventually someone figures it out.
Something you've forgotten and it's something almost every cape wearer has done in the comics: emergency blanket. Batman has been seen to remove the cape and drape it over a victim to help calm them down. The heavy weight of the cape would theoretically act like a security blanket, not to mention the symolism of hiding within the wings of Gotham's knight. Plus a lot of the weight is explained to be engineered to be a silent fabric, so the rustle and pops of a cheap made cape would be nullified by this effect.
I kept hearing "I had problems" or "I experienced". Thing is, you're not Batman. You don't have the resources or the training of the bat and so your experience cannot match.
Your last paragraph nailed it
best way to do is like arkham knight batman beyond suit, the suit only comes out when needing to glide.
Lmao you destroyed him at the end hell yeah
youtubers need to stfu about the realism in fiction , batman is not real wich is why everything makes sense in his fiction world , outside that there is only nitpicking , like saying sups laser vision should not work in real life , no sht .
@@crisalcantara7671 this exactly, I know it's pretty unrelated but that's why I also get so tired of costume discourse and people complaining about the underwear on the outside, like bro this dude can fly, blow out ice, shoot lasers out his eyes and lift a car with his pinkie, why are we focusing on his suit trunks being unrealistic
To quote Batman Begins, "Theatricality and deception are powerful agents." It's part of making Batman seem like more than a man. It also helps breaking us his silhouette while sneaking around, frequently has weighted tips to act as a weapon, and in modern incarnation has become a glider.
Not to mention the swooshing sound he mentioned a cape would make helps as well to add to a kind of ghostly wind that accompanies him
Great explanation. Yes, it can help with hiding and distorting his silhouette. Plus I would think it makes him appear more mysterious and frightening to the criminals. Kind of like a Dracula thing. He would look much different without it. Also makes him appear larger and more intimidating.
If caught in a explosion fireproof/Kevlar weave could save your ass. Gets caught in a closing door, tangled in a fight...pros and cons...batman's a pro who fights cons...I think he knows what's up lol.
best way to do is like arkham knight batman beyond suit, the suit only comes out when needing to glide.
Batman is the only hero to which a cape can be useful at different ways.
First, stealth. Human brain is wired to detect easily the hidden or parcial form of another humans or animals, this is critical for our survival, and instinctive. But the cape changes the basic shape of Batman's body, so if a tug glances at him in the dark, he'll probably dismiss this taking him as just a spot on the wall.
Second, combat. Used correctly, the cape hid the real body behind as a target, making it harder to properly take aim at Batman.
Third, protection: if the cape isn't made of vulgar fabric (it doesn't), can offer some protection against fire, knives, objects tossed on him (like toxic vials), etc.
Fourth, can be used as a weapon to confuse or entangle a close opponent, like renaissance fencers . Bruce watched Zorro as a child and know how it works nicely.
Fifth, utilities like the paraglider version.
Finally, the dramatic effect. Batman needs to appear as big as possible and look like a bat or a kind of vampire. He needs to be scary.
Exactly what I thought seeing the title. Thought this was common knowledge
Thought it was common thing from watching batman 😂😂😂
@@mattt115 So many people sadly see him as "the guy with cape and underwear over the pants"
@@renascienza.bazarclub really ??? I doubt it
@@mattt115 I can't do anything about your doubts, sorry
Unlike most caped heroes, Batman having a cape is actually practical and useful, with it he can shield civilians.
If he has no cape then he would be less effective at protecting civilians against certain dangers.
The cape is an important aspect of Batman, as he can make it work as more of a positive than a negative, he has worked his cape partially into his fighting style.
His cape isn't like a cosplayers cape, it can in most cases do more, allows him to glide across the city with ease, it's bullet and flame resistant, which is great for protection of himself and as I said, of civilians.
Having no powers means he needs to find creative ways to keep up, I feel the cape definitely gives him an edge that he otherwise wouldn't have.
Plus yea, it just looks awesome on him.
I remember a Batman Beyond comic explained that he wore a cape for two reasons: first, because of the whole thing about criminals being superstitious, as the cape looked like giant bat wings in the night, and the tactical reason was for misdirection, because the cape hides the body, makes it harder to target him.
And in the Arkham games, you can cape stun an enemy to perform a beat down
Because he is BATMAN
That's right I am Batman.
@@Batman2039twentythirtynineyou will be you mean
Actually I'm Batman
@@roshaun-pt9ji no..... WE are Batman.
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In comics, his cape is bulletproof and besides gliding, it also helps him appear menacing and formless like a shadow entity. It also helps hiding him in darkness and in stealth. Despite it's sturdiness, the cape can be discarded easily. However, not everyone has the skill to use it. He's Batman after all.
That's what I'm saying the cake is an entire another level of Kevlar or other bullet and knife proof substances. That means any projectile would have to get through the cape and then his armor.
In the comics it is mentioned several times that it is also an additional layer of body armor.
The thing to remember here is Batman is so badass even the impracticalities of wearing a cape can't stop him.
He has a cape because in May, 1939, amost all of the really popular superheroes had them. There was also a lineage: The Shadow had a trenchcoat that was strongly reminiscent of a cape.
It's the same reason Superman has trunks: circus strongmen of the era had them as part of their costumes.
Zorro may not be part of the superhero genre but he definitely falls under Cape category in the era of the rising popularity of Cape culture in literature and Cinema.
Actually Zorro is an the super hero genre he's a superhero too . There wouldn't be any other super heroes if it wasn't for Zoro like there wouldn't be super heroes if it wasn't for doc Savage as well @@jmk0512
Anyone who agrees with "No Capes" was definitely introduced to Superheros through "The Incredibles". Capes are very useful when you need them tactically or as part of your way of psychological warfare the way Batman uses it. There's also the heroes who it just works for aesthetically that don't necessarily need to worry about consequences of potential cape based accidents like Superman.
My first "no caps" was from a old Spiderman (i think comic but could been cartoon). In it he goes on a minor rant about how he would never be able to move the way he does with it on. It just made the Incredibles so much funnier when I was watching it with my kids.
Doomsday laugh at you.
Having a super long cape definitely isn't practical. A short one that can be unrolled or detached quickly would be very useful.
Or maybe a Poncho that can quick slip into a longer cape.
Yeah Superman iconically in the Max Fleischer Animated Short Films used his invulnerable red cape to shield Lois Lane from being incinerated by molten steel.
best way to do is like arkham knight batman beyond suit, the suit only comes out when needing to glide.
Mind you I am a no cape person but for Batman it works. Another thing that helps Batman to have a cape is the stage magic. Batman uses slight of hand and other stage magic offend. If nothing else he may palm something from the belt and use it as a surprise attack. The Cap helps hide his hands when doing this.
The cap may even help hide his identity as it is harder to tell his shape and build as when it flairs he looks so big but when pulled in make him look slimmer. In a world where glasses help to hide you this would have a massive effect.
- The cape helps him glide
- The cape helps him to break falls.
- It helps him look inhuman, like a demon under the shadows.
- Like we've seen in the Arkham games, he can use it offensively.
- Like we saw in the Flash movie, it can be used defensively.
- He looks absolutely badass with the cape.
The cape helps him to glade that will act as a parachute and probably bulletproof as well.
best way to do is like arkham knight batman beyond suit, the suit only comes out when needing to glide.
Bruce Wayne built Terry’s Batsuit and he actually fought crime in it himself, up until the Batman Beyond pilot.
Batman did make his own fighting style that makes the cape a advantage for the bat to have
It symbolizes his Bat-Wings. So, essentially, he needs one, or he'll just be...fill in the blank?
MAN!!!
Batman Beyond?
Why doesn't Man have a cape? Is he stupid?
Yeah, I'm man
Comic character to look up
The Black Bat.
Hey just looked up the Black Bat again and his look been changed he now has a full cape that was not the Black Bats orginal look he first had short underarm half cape that was just for looks when he get a full cape, hate that change, also hated when Marvel changed
Moon Knight cape to full cape , i thought his orginal half cape was unique look for him, and the black & white costume style was orginal look as well, hate the newer versions of Moon Knight .
I think the most useful scenario is using the cape during the stealth and when going to the action, throwing the cape to one of the enemies to blindside them. When the fight is done, Batman can re-wear the cape.
plus his cape glides and is bulletproof and flame proof to shield other people he is trying to save
best way to do is like arkham knight batman beyond suit, the suit only comes out when needing to glide.
That's like saying why Superman wears a cape,why Spawn has one,why trench coats are impractical do you see what I mean,I get minor disadvantages to them but also there disadvantages to wing suits as well,this is just my opinion but instead of concerning ourselves with something Edna mode said in a good superhero movie let's just be in awe of how epic and awesome capes and such are. Plus Because he's Batman!!
He can ditch the cape if it becomes too much of a hindrance. This was shown several times in both the comics and a few episodes of Batman TAS.
Cape saved Batman's ass from being scorched in Batman Forever.
I like the blue Cape and I think he has a fire proof and bullet proof one
I think the fireproof one was shown to be utilized in the movie Batman Forever. Bulletproof one was definitely utilized in The Flash movie.
I always believed the cape should be tucked in an armored pack much like the scene in Hong kong during The Dark Knight. With the right sensor it could open automatically while falling. I imagine it opening in a way more like a beetle. I also feel it is important to fire proof himself.
He can wrap himself or completely cover the color of the suit. He blends into the night. Hence, the Dark Knight. He's had years to find a way to use it to his advantage. Without the cape, he just wouldn't be Batman.
When you say swoosh of the cape, I think you really mean the flutter of bat-wings.
Bat-Cape flutter defensive maneuver.
It can be used as a bulletproof shield it can be used as a glider and he can use it as a weapon to stun enemies
if i remember right batman cape is made of double layered kevlar at a base to make him resilient to firearm also..., not sure if i remember that right
As far as the cape getting caught, I think some version give his cape a quick release to detach it from the rest of the costume
First, remember he needs to have at least some resemblance to a bat, and the cape helps that to be a possibility.
Be sure that you realize that Batman’s cape is often misrepresented in film and tv, and occasionally even in the comics they forget. As Batman’s cape is quite a bit thicker than what most people would expect or think. His cape really doesn’t have the ability to freely flow in a light wind as it’s so often presented. It’s also used as a protective shield, it has the ability to become rigid when needed and aid him in flight or free falling in a manner that allows him to control his fall. It also aids him in giving him a more ominous, formidable or aggressive appearance, giving him a bit more ability to inspire fear in his opponents just as it helps him appear more heroic to those he’s trying to help/protect.
I’m pro cape because I firmly believe the pros far outweigh the cons.
cara, vamos falar sobre o barulho da capa, sim, ela pode atrapalhar na furtividade entregando a sua localização,mas também pode ajudar na figura aterrorizante de morcego se espreitando nas sombras pronta para silencia-lo...
Batman wears a cape because when the character was created it was just normal for superheroes to have a cape . Bruce Wayne chose to wear one to use it as part of his fear tactic . True they get in the way but it does look cool . Having cosplayed Batman a few times I can say that with the cape done right kids and adults are stunned by how cool you look in the suit . In the end weather your Darth Vader , Doctor Strange or Batman capes are not really practical but they look cool.
Batman was inspired by Zorro. And probably also by The Shadow. I have always been a Zorro fan.
@jmk0512 first batman story "the chemical syndicate" was lifted from the shafpw story partnets of peril lol.
But yeah in that story the shadow was described as "bat like" because of the cape.
imo Batman is the only one who can justify wearing his cape compared to other superheroes who more or less just do only use it for aesthetics
Fun piece. Of course, the functionality or non can be written and drawn anyway the artist wants the cape to 'behave'. Like you said, adding it to a real world setting, it would totally be an encumbrance. Nolan handled the 'why' beautifully making it a strategic tool of escape or transport. But again, movie magic doesn't ever show how Keaton to Pattinson had to deal with it. Burton even said in -89 they had different capes for different scenes based on what the actor/stuntman were doing. Some heavier when he's just lurking. Others lighter when he's fighting or making dramatic movements that showed off the cape 'in the wind'. Hell they even had a guy just do some of the walking because he did it so fluidly in the cape. Fun piece though.
Batman's cape was first utilized as a tool in cinema in the Tim Burton directed film Batman Returns. In that film the Cape is used as a glider.
You know how crazy it is that he keeps the cape on while on the bat pod?
Yes, I'm a cape fan myself, but that part was absolutely crazy. Didn't attach it to his belt or any attempt to control it
@DamienMuto batman should be smarter than that. It looks cool but it's insanely reckless lol.
The edge of the cape can criminals in a fight, it has bullet resistant material which can also stand against knives, and fire resistant.
Bruce is just badass wearing that cape. 🥰
"any sound minded person that chose to be a vigilante in the real world would never choose to wear a cape ."
Wait, you think Batman is sound minded?
No. Which is why he wears a Cape? Lol
Out of all the characters you could have picked, Batman is probably the worst example, because his cape has at least four uses in-universe, while with people like Superman it has... uhhh... one. I think there's exactly one reason, that is that Kryptonian formal uniform looked like that and Superman is essentially wearing the Kryptonian equivalent of a suit. Batman? The cape is made speficifally for fighting, allows for gliding in the air, acts as a shield against fire and bullets, makes his body harder to register by breaking his shape into a dark lump... and of course, Batman does have an element of theatricality which most people would dismiss as being just for show, but when dealing with human criminals, intimidation and psychological factor is just as important as the practicality, because enemies taken by your presence will tend to make more mistakes
I always found capes to conceal actions and add to the fighting styles. So I am glad Bob Kane gave batman a cape.
Great video! As much as I love Batman, I think Marvel's Night Thrasher is the best design for a modern realistic superhero. Helmet and body armour in a black and red aesthetic (perfect for blending into the dark), and no dangling bits anywhere. Also, he's got his nightsticks to aid in combat.
Batman's cape is utility item laws on to do so many other things and makes it harder to read because you can't see his whole body
You just know Batman adjusted his fighting to suit the cap
Isn't it canon that Batman chose a cape so that his shadow would be more bat-like?
You could legitimately use the argument that any tool on your person used incorrectly is a hindrance rather than an asset, now in real life if a "vigilante " , where to wear a cape would there be some disadvantages sure, however any tool that you use even properly does have it's limitations, however, if you use the tool in question correctly and you know how to use it effectively in a combat situation and also use your surroundings to your advantage then any limitations your tool may have is ultimately negligible. And to be frank we are discussing Batman he knows how use his tools to great affect and he is a master of using his surroundings to his advantage. Now would all his tactics actually work as shown in comics and movies in the real world, not as they are portrayed in cinema no, but they could work if one were to do research and just pay attention to how society actually is, and if you're a good strategist, then yes some of his tactics can be used in the real world even using the cape, you just have to know how to use it, and the most effective way to use it. Just like any tool.
I might be paranoid, but in parts the script sounds written by chat gtp
"Buddy, you think you look strong? You're wearing a cape."
You must have had a minor heart attack when you saw Kelley Jones' take on the Cape.
Batman’s cape isn’t just for the aesthetic of it, his cape actually serves a very important purpose and function, as it allows for him to either glide around the city, as well as be able to safely get to ground without being so reliant on his grapple gun. Unlike Batman, Superman is one superhero that could probably go either with or without a cape as his cape doesn’t really serve any other function.
*In real life, a cape is useless. In fiction it’s more than a cape. Why are we talking about this?*
Just a guess since I haven’t watched the video yet and I don’t have access to much Batman content: He uses it to safely get down from buildings and to blend into his surroundings. Or he just wants to be edgy either is possible 😭
6:59 I'm curious to know if wearing the cape like that would be more practical when in combat
In recent years, it has been shown as sort of a glider he can use sort of like a BASE jumping suit. But it is mostly because it resembles the wings of a bat.
Batman without a cape just ends up being Man
Let's face it.
Edna Mode is the expert.
I've seen the cape used as an shield from bullets in a flash movie once,
Long story short: it adds to his intimidating figure, he can use it to distract and/or fight his enemies
As someone who wears a medievaly style cape/cloak as a regular part of my colder weather wear: Oi, don't diss the warm, comfortable, delightfully dramatic and flowy, rain proof, incredible drip! It's also not all that inconvenient for moving around, sitting down, performing daily tasks, being a passenger in a car, going groccery shopping or whatever else. Though lenght (I went with down to my knees for sake of keeping it clean and limiting weight), material, age, quality, and how well it's tailored to the one wearing it do decide a lot of things. Plus how experiences one is at wearing it. I am every year eager to bust out my cape, purely because how comfortable (and delightful) it is to wear when it starts to get colder. A coat, even a thicker winter one, can be worn under it easily. If it starts to rain I just toss up the hood and I am good to go. Worth remembering that not every cape is the same, just as not every coat is the same. A lot of factors go into it, plus becoming used to some of the quirks they can come with.
It's part of his Bat motif.
Sooooooo, do you guys think capes will be a hot new fashion trend in the future?
Say some super popular celebrity or influencer starts wearing a cape and all the little fans and followers start doing it.
Then fashion brands try to cash in on the craze. Gucci capes. Louis Vuitton capes. Then DC and Marvel.
I hope so
To be fair, I’m sure Bruce has trained himself to compensate for the disadvantages. The Cape has. He’s probably so used to it at this point, but he can tell his keepers long enough to get snagged on something he’s standing close to and then act appropriately. And since the Cape serves a functional practical use in traversal and misleading his enemies, I think the benefits outweigh the drawbacks in his specific case.
Plus, you have to remember that when he first dawned the mask, he wanted criminals to be afraid of him, so having a large imposing cape similar to that of a vampire would help with that aesthetic
The cape can also be used as protection against explosions (depending on the continuity)
Why no mention that he can detach the cape at any moment like he did in the animated show?
One reason Bruce probably didn't have a suit like Beyond could be boiled down to practicality. His traditional outfit (regardless of version) is extremely practical once you consider how often he has to fix it, and if you consider that despite all his toys, his suit and basic batarangs are probably the easiest to slip through the records. And as technology became more prominent, the suit never really had to contend with the problems of more advanced enemies hacking it, like what happens to McGinnis multiple times. Also consider Bruce was a peak human for quite some time, he was capable and clearly had a "not broke, don't fix" mentality, only pulling out powered suits and armors for specific situations. By the time of the original Beyond series, he was probably finally starting to run into some barriers as age was finally starting to get him, thus the Beyond suit, which served him until his body literally could no longer take the abuse of stress.
Batman really the only one that needs a cape, as it allows him to glide and decend down slowly.
It's his bulletproof tool as well.
Batman Beyond Glider is essentially an improvement. Especially with his 2.0 suit
Doesn't he use it to glide and sometimes as a shield? Sounds pretty badass to me
Nolan's Batman has a cape that doubles as a glider. The cape aids in stealth as it is solid dark blue or black. The cape is a weapon (see Jackie Chan in the Young Master where he and a young woman fight in a long flowing skirt. Same principle.) In the comics, he could use his cape to glide down from the tops of buildings.
im not gonna bullshit i think its because capes look cool and make him look bigger
also batman does use it in some cartoon i watched were he tears it off and uses it like a bag to blind someone
The Batman 2004 uses cape as a tool for fighting. Like when he used cape to flip penguin into the air to kick him. And cape has armor to shield himself from mr.freezes ice attacks.
If i ever had the opportunity to write a batman story. Id have the cape be a memory fabric that can change shape.
Become longer. Or dramtically shorter. Fan out to glide. Or become ridge as a sheild. It's almost like a piece of tactical shape shifting armor.
Batman's cape has a couple of uses. It's weighted, so he can actually use it as a weapon. Also, depending on what version of his suit he has on at the moment, it can be bullet proof, fire proof and it can also help him glide around.
A simple solution would be to have quick release method of deployment
He glides, adds to his persona, and adds extra layer of protection
The cape multiplies the cool factor by 100000.
The cape is like a cobra's hood, enhancing his physical threat. It also alters his silhouette - criminals shooting at what they think is center mass aren't even touching his armor, saving on wear and tear and bruises. Also, aside from gliding, it blunts damage from fire and debris - samurai armor used banners to minimize arrow damage.
his cap was part of it being a glider
in one episode of batman the animated series he covers a giant teddy bear with his pushes out to look like he is moving out into the open so the thugs shoot it so he can get the jump on them
No mention of the cape sometimes acting as a literal shield. Batman's cape has been used as a fire blanket, and has been bulletproof depending on how his gear is written in a story. It's also been used as a decoy in tricky situations. In Mask of the Phantasm, he used it to help him escape the police by throwing it on a sawhorse and grappled the whole thing to a police chopper. I love the cape as part of the character's design, and how it can be written in as part of his arsenal. In all practicality I do think it'd be a lot more trouble than it would be worth.
Can't believe you've shown multiple clips of Batman using his cape to glide withought mentionning it once.
I see your point but what about superman's cape?
As Fernando Lamas said on Fernando's Hideaway, "It's better to look good than to feel good."
The cape looks cool. Nuff said.
Basically the dude likes to kneel on the ledges of tall buildings and wants to be dry and warm. But i bet sometimes he just wants to take a dump and doesent want to get jumped. Its probably an uncomfortable moment when your trying to drop a duece and you hear the sound of a coin flip or the joker trying to tell you how he got his scars.
I think the cape was supposed to be bullet proof in many iterations
The cape is cool! It can also be used to help him glide in the air - maybe even used a weapon.
I love the batman beyond show and his suit is pretty cool
Unless it’s the Beyond suit I wouldn’t want to see him without one tbh
In one movie batman forever you use it to guard himself against flames so it's fireproof. It symbolizes the bats wings when he glides making an entrance. And by imitating a bat he terrifies the criminal element who are superstitious.
the issue you're facing with the "Modern Cape" vs the utilitization of the medieval armor cape... that cape you were wearing probably weighed less than 20% of the Armor Cloak.
As such, its physical properties didn't really allow for sitting on it as it was a lot more rigid. however, the armor style cape is weighted and multi-plied giving it much higher durability at the cost of extra weight.
Armor cloaks were also necessary against natural elements like rain, snow, and dusty winds.
Batman’s cape is used to make him appear as an apparition, as does his cowl. He’s not simply some guy in body armor running around fighting criminals. He’s meant to serve as a shadowy urban folklore of a punisher of the wicked. Most of the city doesn’t even think he’s real. Crime bosses of the goons who get thwarted think their men are mentally unstable. Hell, most of those goons aren’t even sure of what they encountered that night or if it was even human. The cape and the smoke is all apart of that mystique.
If you think the Arkham games are the most accurate description of the character, you know very little about the character.
The cape actually looks cool on him. It's so supernatural, mysterious, definitive and fits him very well. That's just my view.
I think the best capes are the dark knight and arkam capes as they let him glide. As long as the cape at least does that then I think the cape ks justified. Other capes features I like is the fire proof like in batman forever, using it combate situations, and using it for fear like in batman 89. Also I feel that his cape at least the outside should always be black so especially when he is in a grey suit he can be stealthier
The cape is very essential, The cape is used as wings so he can glide down buildings or high places. The bat cape is also used as a shield and was shown in BVS in the warehouse. He also uses it to disorient enemies and block their vision or to block himself as shown in the batman arkham games.. Addition to all that, it also gives the visuals of a wing, like a bat. It's also visually appealing. Therefore, no, capes aren't stupid they are a cosmetic and can be used to the advantage of the user.
I'd probably go with the approach the Shadow takes, with the long coat.
But i like the aesthetic of the long coat and jodhpurs for some reason.
It was provided in both watch men movie and in the incredibles just how bad capes are. By getting trapped in revolving doors and getting gunned down or by getting sucked into a plane engine
Its a utility cape, where as in those shows the heroes didnt really use the capes but had them as decoration. Thus they became a liability.
In part it’s to break up his silhouette. Our brains pick out patterns very easily, and a human shaped shadow gets noticed quickly. But not if it doesn’t really LOOK like the human body.
Can you imagine if batman was done in by his cape getting caught in and pulling him into some machine lol
There is a fine tradition of martial artist using tassles and flags on the weapons as a form of distraction, lowering the defense of their opponents. Batman uses his cape in the same way, even concealing his hands with it while pulling something out of his utility belt. Of course I don't think someone could just put on a cape and automatically do the same thing as Batman. One must remember that Batman has been in the vigilante game for around twenty years, if not more. He had quite a lot of time learning to integrate his cape into his fighting style and how to avoid the disadvantages of having a cape. Special note: The robins capes are a lot smaller and intrusive than his, meaning he purposely avoiding giving them the same disadvantages he has when they started their vigilante career.
-intimidation
Makes him appear larger
Makes him look like a monster
Obscures his body
-using to glide
-using as shield
Tradition
-knight etc
-Combat
-can be used as weapon
-can be used to mask his attacks
The intimidation part seems most important.
Without the cape he looks like a freerunner with a weird suit.