How to use CA glue // Are CA glue and Super glue different? // DIY tutorial for Cyanoacrylate glues
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Great video, can i use ca for fixing cracks on top of the crook of a walking stick? Thanks much
The best, most useful, and helpful to understand the difference between the products and choose the right one. I appreciate you, sir. I have watched many videos on youtube, but none of them could make me convinced to choose a CA glue with confidence. Thanks again.
Nice Job!!! I learned quite a bit as you answered some of my most pressing questions. Thanks for posting this.
Glad it was helpful!
you answered all my questions. Good video. Thanks.
Thanks! Short and to the point and very informative as well!
I put eyedrops in the fridge. There was a local case a person mistaken superglue as eye drop. The result was tragic.
Does the spray activator affect the ability to apply a stain or finish, if some was to get on the finished faces of the wood? Thx
very informative video with easy simple way, thank you.
Very helpful explained a lot of what I didn’t know or realize
Thanks for explaining what CA glue is. You mentioned that that the accelerator reduces time by ten fold. You kept your elbow on the pieces of wood for about sixteen seconds which means 160 seconds or nearly three minutes in real time. I would rather use it without accelerator as that would only take maximum thirty seconds and save the cost on the accelerator.
Absolutely
Thanks, great informative video! I just received my first batch of Starbond CA in the mail so am excited to start using it on my projects.
This is so informative. Thank you.
Can this be used on damaged MDF to “seal” the roughness so that wood filler can be applied?
The curing ingredient in the accelerator is N, N-Dimethyl-p-Toluidine, NOT acetone. The 99% acetone is just a solvent/delivery medium, it's the 1% or so N, N-Dimethyl-p-Toluidine that's important.
Solid info! thanks
I was probably mistaken when plain acetone cured my parts in less than 30 seconds. Hmm...and I tried to break the bond. Must have been my imagination that it works.
Yes ! I was going to add a similar comment. This is not just a moot point - once the accelerator / activator is applied and the acetone has long since evaporated - the activator is pretty stable and not volatile - so you have plenty of time between applying the activator and having to put the joint together. Often times you can therefor get your accelerating application out of the way in a batch - and do all the glue work separately, later. Eg if you’re gluing plastic trim around Upvc windows - you can go up the ladder and get all your activating out of the way, go down the ladder and put the activator away - I had a colleague who didn’t believe this so we activated some plastic and left a piece for 24 hours , another piece for 48 hours - perfectly activated and ready to go when we came back to them … and compared those pieces with a piece we’d freshly activated. To his amazement (but not mine) they all glued And cured in identical times…
Great explanation. Thanks.
what great information and explanation. thank you
I just discovered using CA Glue with accelerator for working with wood on jobs. I've known about Super Glue since the 70's when that guy put some on his hard hat, stuck his hard hat to an I-Beam, and hung there kicking his feet. I had never seen CA Glue and Accelerator until I did my last job, and my boss used Stick Fast and Stick Fast Accelerator. I thought the stuff was amazing so I went to buy some online and discovered that there were other brands of CA Glue. In the course of researching CA Glue, I found that a lot of people chose Starbond over Stick Fast. They claimed that Starbond was the "Gold Standard" for CA Glue. Can you discuss the differences? Why do these people prefer Starbond? What do you prefer? Thanks
I'm sorry I do not have info on the subject.
Anything stronger then this stuff? I'm trying to glue a relatively strong magnet to the back of my phone case which is rubber and super glue didnt work at all. 😕
A thinner offering? Is it glue or wine
Good video. Just what I needed.
Great information. Thanks for sharing
What is accelerator?
thank you so helpful, useful and handful information god bless
Acetone..wow..nice video
Very good information, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I have been turning pens made out of acrylic pen blanks will it work for that?
Not all Super glue are equal by any means, due to the greed for profits most are cheap watered down diluted rubbish with very little Cyanoacrylate! best super glue ive used is Permabond 102
Sir it safe for chopping board, this not toxin?
I wouldn't use this glue for a cutting board.
excellent presentation of key information
i sometime have too much glue dripping from the tip. how do i clean that off? i find that the glue will just glue to itself. either the top will glue to the bottle or the opening is glued shut.
i tried cloth, which was a bad idea. i tried my finger, which it still closed the opening. i tried opening with a bobby pin, but the glue just glue it to it self and it gets worse and worse every time i tried using it. i get like the max of 3 uses every time i use it. which is about half of a 1 oz bottle before i have to just throw it away, because it's to hard to reopen the top.
I know what you are saying. I have had this problem with many super glues but not starbond. Maybe it is the design of their bottle. I first thought is wiping with waxed paper. what ever you wipe with it needs to be bone dry or it may harden the glue you are wiping.
How much would you trust CA Glue to fasten two pieces of 3/4 inch wood side by side
I trust CA glue. Its is hard to put a yes no answer because I really don't know the specifics of the application. I believe wood glue is a better wood to wood glue if you want max strength and can allow it to dry for the allotted time.
What is the life span of the glue, once they are opened? Thx
From Starbonds website: We guarantee 30 months shelf life for clear CA glues and 20-months shelf life for colored CA glues, when stored under 40 degrees Fahrenheit. If your glue does not last 30-months (clear CA glues) or 20-months (colored CA glues) from your original purchase date, simply contact us at info@starbond.com, and we will immediately ship out a replacement. Even if the expired glue wasn’t stored under the required storing conditions, contact us anyways and we’ll take care of you.
I still have the glue from this video. It has not be stored in the optimal conditions and it is still good.
@@natelarge thank you!
great, I am going to build a 2 story house frame structure with CA glue
If you keep it in the refrigerator, will it last indefinitely?
I'm not sure about indefinitely
@@danholtbk7008 Yeah, I know about that one.
Super-glue accelerator, for people who haven't got 18 seconds to waste.
lol
I think the point is that if you can't clamp something to be glued together, it's extremely hard to hold something in place perfectly enough , if not impossible ! for any amount of seconds.
Hence the accelerator would give the best chance of a bond in those circ.s .
Very helpful!! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Is CA glue "food safe". Does CA glue deteriorate with heat? Could you use it for cutting boards?
Good questions Does anyone have an answer? I am UNCERTAIN but would say: Not food safe, probably deteriorates in heat. And again no on the cutting boards because I do not believe it is food safe.
@@natelarge Thanks Nate.
I’m considering using this CA glue to attach driftwood for my aquarium, do you know if it is safe once is cured, is it inert when dry? Thank you!
I'm not sure
CA glue was safe enough to use as an emergency suture, during the Vietnam conflict.
are all CA glue same and safe for epo plane foam?
sorry IDK ... anyone?
Excellent tips!
Is this a replace for wood glue to join wood planks together
Works GREAT for MDF. Works for real wood as well, but not nearly as good in my experience. My typical use is connecting mitters and joints on trim. I think it soaks into the MDF or something I mean it’s solid solid on that stuff.
This stuff is expensive so using it for glueing ups would get a bit pricey.
Very helpful. Great content. Thanks
can u stic ruber to a plastic
You can try normal shoe glue. You apply the glue to sanded surfaces, let it dry and stick together. You may use weight on it or hammer it on an anvil and the joint will be great.
how many ounces is your bottle of ca glue?
2 oz
Good video! If CA glue is same as crazy glue, than why do many rc model plane instructions tell you not to use crazy glue and to only use foam safe CA glue for models that are made of EPO or EPP material?
I think I said CA is the same as super glue. Crazy glue is a name brand of a glue maker. Anyone have more info for Ramsin?
Standard CA (or Crazy Glue) is not foam-safe. It will melt many types of foam used in model airplanes. For foam models or parts, you need odorless CA, which is foam-safe.
Why do people use the term "CA Glue"? CA is an acronym for "Cyanoacrylate adhesive". 'Glue' becomes redundant. They are not all the same, as most hobby enthusiasts seem to think. There are several different base monomers used, i.e. Ethyl, Methyl, butyl and several others.
The stabiliser ingredient in these adhesives is a weak acid. This stabilising acid is neutralised by the moisture on the surface of the substrate, which is usually alkaline by nature - but not always. Some woods plastics and plated metals are by nature slightly acidic. These are the materials you will find a little more difficult to bond. It's at this point that many people reach for the 'surface accelerator', or 'kicker' to promote curing. There are specific CA's classed as 'SI" or "surface insensitive" grades which will perform well on these substrates. Using a 'kicker' with a CA will often result in a less than perfect bond. If you drive the cure process too hard and fast, then polymerisation will suffer. The curing of a CA is a polymerisation process, not a drying effect. Solvent based adhesives cure by losing their solvent, or 'drying out', a process similar to paint drying. The term 'Superglue' was originally a trademark of a leading adhesives manufacturer. Unfortunately, someone in their marketing department used the term as a 'generic', similar to the word 'hoover'. Consequently it became a term which anyone could use from then on. The fumes which you detect when using a CA are 'lachrymatory' i.e., they will make your eyes water. They may also upset some asthmatics (like me), but they are not dangerous to the point of causing any lasting damage. These fumes are volatile CA monomers escaping from the bondline. The effect is called 'chlorosis' or bloom.They will leave a nasty mark on plastic and some wooden surfaces that can best be removed by mechanical means (sandpaper). Alternatively, there is a version of CA which is classed as 'low odour, low bloom'. These versions are manufactured using a higher molecular weight monomer, which is less volatile and remains within the bondline long enough to cure in place. Another simple method of avoiding the problems of fuming and bloom is to place a small desk fan near the bondline and gently blow the fumes away.
Accelerator is pretty expensive. It's much cheaper to just buy nail polish remover or a pint of acetone at Walmart. Accelerator is nothing but acetone. No other additives. And then you can use it to separate your fingers when you glue them together. It seems strange it will set the glue and also dissolve it, but accelerator is acetone.
Thanks!!
If first came out in Canada as Crazy Glue.
" What is CA Glue, it is a glue made with *cyanoacrylite* 0:23 " the word is cyanoacrylate not cyanoacrylite.
Baking Sosa is the cheapest and best accelerator
I never heard of that. Thanks for the tip
Baking Soda ;-)
Cy-ono-acryl-ite. Was that the first time you tried to pronounce it? I'm just giving crap. lol 0:25
The fumes are not healthy or they just stink (smell)?
The smell is unhealthy. Try the glue with enough ventilation and make sure air flow takes it away from you.
Should’ve busted it apart to show if the wood failed or the glue did. Next time.
Fair point
Howdy!
pronounced like cyan (the color) and acrylic (the plastic) cyan-o acryl-ate
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Wait hold on can you speak any slower. You going to fast I don’t understand
Very informative, thank you