🚨 Our RV generator overloaded during this test... way to go Hanks 😄Do you feel like we hurt our baby generator at all? We wanna keep the little guy going for a long time! Thank you all for your amazing support. We are EXCITED to kick off this series with you!!
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I haven’t finished watching the video yet, but I think the workaround is having your neutral and your grounds tied together you can do that with a wire and a male plug. You can make one.😊
I haven’t finished watching the video yet, but I think the workaround is having your neutral and your grounds tied together you can do that with a wire and a male plug. You can make one.😊
Former electrician, generator tech, and switchgear tech here. You didn't overload your generator, you experience a motor- starting surge, which is 7-11 times steady-state running power. No worries. Overloading the generator alone will not typically hurt the generator, and at most it will trip the breaker on the generator. Yes, soft start is a fabulous idea, and has no real downside. (Not expensive, easy to install, and fairly idiot-proof - I don't know why these are standard equipment now, I really don't.) With soft-start installed on both A/C units, you might be able to run both, but not to start both, at the same time! The yellow adapter is a bonding adapter which connects your ground connection with your neutral (white wire). Here are things that can and will hurt your generator: connecting your generator to the grid (lets all the magic smoke out of the generator, and it won't make electricity), flooding (like water, not fuel, so keep it on a set of your levelling blocks, just in case), lack of lubrication, not maintaining the filters, and not running the generator at least once a month - under considerable load (A/C works well) for a half hour or so. It's also a good idea to start up the generator for about five minutes before loading it, and unloading it about five minutes before shutting the generator down. With summer temperatures soaring, the grid will not be able to reliably cool people, and certainly not at RV parks. Keeping an inverter generator is a matter of life and death. This week, London is reporting 107F temperatures and much of Texas is getting 120F, which is in fact going to kill a lot of people. I have a built-in Onan generator in our motorhome, and I'm putting one of these in the pickup truck we intend to buy this winter. - just in case. We will install a dual fuel system so that we can run it on gasoline or on propane. Homework assignment: buy a Kill-O-Watt meter, and build a list of the load of all your appliances. It's a great resource!
@@jeremypiazza3093 not all generators have a 30A RV plug on the front. The bonding adapter "adapts" the 30A socket on the generator to a standard RV 30A plug
@@jeremypiazza3093 Not using a bonding adapter will not mess anything up, it mostly just reduces frustration, and I don't know about you, but I don't go camping for added frustration! I'm going to answer this with a useful analogy so that I don't have to introduce you to James Clerk Maxwell and quantum mechanics. This is not accurate, but simpler, and it's harmless. Plenty of electricians use this analogy all their career. The neutral lead serves to combine waves of AC to create a mathematical "zero" voltage. A ground actually IS "zero" volts. The very small resistance in the white wire of a very long conductor (like your shore power cable) creates a small voltage difference between neutral and ground, which can trip a GCFI breaker or outlet - over and over, and over. The power panel in a sticks and bricks power panel bonds the two at the panel - so you know that this practice (bonding the neutral to ground) is harmless. Hope this helps.
You can not go wrong by adding a AC soft start. It is much easier on the AC starting up. Generator, 30a, 50a, it will be easier on the AC. Many TH-cam videos on the subject. Take care.
Plus 1 on the soft start. but get a good one. There are several methods to design a "softstart" , I am not going to recommend one over others but basically you want a NON relay type...one that uses solid-state throughout. Just go, use it . and see what you can do. then modify as you learn.
Don't worry about it. I've been running a EU3000 Honda for 10 years. The Inverters knows how to say no. It has a breaker to protect it. The bigger issue is can your appliances take a surge. The inverter is bulletproof for sure. Mine has 1000s of hours. Keep it maintained and your Honda Inverter will not let you down. Yes I have thrown my breaker often. AC, microwave, coffee maker. Oops. There is a limit and the inverter will let you know. Happy Travels
@user-cw9yk4jq9i I always wondered why the EU3000is's operating wattage is 2800 watts and the EU3200 is 2600. The Eu3000is has a large engine and maybe that is why.
You need a bonding plug for the generator to get it to work with your surge protector. The tire wear is not caused by rubbing. You changed the tire with and offset from stock. This changed the scrub radius among other things. You need to have an alignment shop add some negative camber to get more weight on the inside of the tires. Also looks like the pressure is too low.😮
Agree with others about the soft start for the AC. And if you want to avoid having to bypass your surge protector, look into buying a neutral-ground bonding plug.
Your generator has a floating neutral. To make your EMS work with generator you need a bonding plug. I have made bonding plugs before just using a male plug and an insulated wire. To make: Buy a replacement male plug from hardware store. Like one used to repair an extension cord (120volt). Then connect the neutral prong to the grounding prong with an insulated jumper wire. You have made a bonding plug. Then plug bonding plug in one of your spare 120volt outlets on generator like you are plugging in an appliance cord. Congratulations you’re done!
A neutral-ground bonding plug will solve your EMS bypass issue. Also, Jenny has a breaker, so don’t worry about overloading her. If you can start the AC without tripping the breaker, you can probably run it on high.
What John & Mary said. Honda 2200W inverter generator works fine to power ONE major appliance at a time. Air conditioner (with soft start) OR microwave OR toaster oven. My refrigerator draws about 350 watts on electric. It can be temporarily switched to propane if the total current draw gets too close to the rated continuous load (1800W) from the generator. I had been using a Honda 3000W gen, but it weighs too much to load/unload by myself from the truck. (My wife isn't a camper.) Had to just roll it onto the tailgate. The new 2200W gen also takes a lot less space in the truck bed.
@@HappilyEverHanks I have a Honda 2200 generator and never have any problem running my 13.5k A/C with it (or running it off a 15 amp household connection at home) with the soft start. Just don't try to run the microwave at the same time. You shouldn't have to worry about hurting the generator, regardless. Those Hondas are designed to shut off if there's a problem.
Yeah, not so much. If those are 15k units, a 2200 will NOT work even with a Softstart. I have one installed still won't run a 15k unit. Sold my Honda. I bought a Gernac 3500 with duel fuel and this works great. Also has remote start and shutoff. SoftStart is good even if you don't run a generator.
As an RV Tech, you will need two things to run one A/C on a generator. You need an Easy Start or Soft Start. Both will do the same thing. They gradually apply current to the compressor so that you do not get the high in-rush of current that you saw during your test. The second thing is a plug that creates a ground to neutral bond so that your surge protector will continue to protect your RV and you won't need to put the surge protector into bypass.
I love that you say voltage or amperage while looking at the watts. (volts x amps = watts) Yes soft start will help with that surge when the AC kicks on. You can probably charge the battery and run the AC at the same time. Your generator seems pretty smart and has built in protection/sensors so I wouldn't be too shy about seeing what she can do.
I installed a Micro Air soft start on the AC in our travel trailer. My EU2200i starts and runs it just fine. And don’t worry if you damaged your generator. You didn’t. These modern generators are very good at protecting themselves.
I have never seen so much talking and game planning for something like this lol. Usually we just do stuff and then when it goes wrong then the talking begins. This is awesome to watch.
If you guys decide to come over to NH we have a Boondockers Welcome site with electric and water on our farmstead. We would love to have you over sometime!
First time posting, been watching your videos for a couple years. Yes, soft start, add a grounding plug to your generator and you wont have to bypass the surge protector, check out the national and state forest campgrounds, they are way cheaper. And look into getting a berkey water purifier. You will never have to buy water bottles again. Great videos! We love maine! Planning on retiring there! Have a blast.
We learned that leaving our generators in ecomode caused the starlink to reboot each time we used the coffee pot or the microwave. Forget ecomode, let 'er rip so that the Starlink router does not get damaged. Love you guys, keep the videos coming!
Consider visiting Boldt Castle on an Island in the Saint Lawernce Seaway. Close to Watertown NY. Take the tour, it's out-a sight !!! We did two years ago and enjoyed it greatly.
This is good information about the new 3200 Honda. We love our EU3000is Honda - it has been perfect for powering our 5th wheel for almost 20 years now. About 95% of our camping is dry camping, usually lakefront sites without power. Our Honda EU300is will power the air conditioner in our camper, as long as we've already had the generator connected and running for a few minutes before turning on the A/C. That way the refrigerator compressor and air conditioning aren't drawing high power all at the same instance. On a side note - I doubt that outside tire wear is from rubbing. It looks more like typical all-terrain tire wear from either mis-alignment or just lots of highway miles. They do look cool - but I'd recommend that you consider tire that wears well for towing/highway use as much as you do.
Don't use Eco mode when the AC can start. You don't have to worry about unplugging anything before connecting generator. Just make sure AC is off. Let generator run a few minutes before connecting and let it run a minute after before starting AC. After AC is running, you can put it in Eco mode as long as you know the AC won't shut off and start again in that time...but it's much less stress to just not worry about eco mode. Also make sure to turn off AC and disconnect load from generator before turning generator off (letting it run a minute with no load before turning off as well). Also, you should probably install soft starts for both your AC and generator's sake. We killed our first AC, probably from running off a normal 15A outlet occasionally? I don't think the generator really cares but you do have a more fancy generator. The soft start or easy start are magical devices though.
This is really great information, Patrick! Thank you for sharing with us 😀 The Eco mode is such a great feature. I love how quiet it is. Do you have a Honda generator as well?
I would suggest shutting off the main breaker in the rv before connecting to a running generator. Just like you plug your trailer into shore power and have the breaker off when connecting to shore power
LOL. You guys overthought this one. I do recommend the Micro-Air SoftStart. I run my AC easily on a 2400-watt generator with a SoftStart. It was fun watching you guys work through this one, but a huge bummer about the tires and rims. Thanks for sharing. You never know who, or how many people might benefit from things we share.
I tested generators for 35 years, believe me you are the first people to overload one!!! Is it a GOOD idea, probably not did it hurt it more than likely not! A soft start is a great idea! Happy Trails! ❤❤
I recently started full time living in a RV and stumbled across your channel. Thank you so much for all of the invaluable information! You've helped me be a lot more confident in my decision and avoid some pitfalls. Thanks!
The AC turns on in two phases. 1- the fans turn on. 2- the compressor turns on. This is the large draw which caused you alert. A softstart will reduce this instantaeous current draw.
So what we initially saw was the fans turning on regarding the generator numbers on the phone? That's really good to know. We will look into the soft starts for sure! Thank you!
exactly this, it’s the compressor kick up that causes the surge. soft start will help. also make sure you run the generator a little while to charge the batteries before firing up the ac and lastly consider using the dry mode
@@HappilyEverHanks No Offense here but with a 3200 Gen. you are pretty close to what would be a safe with 1400+ KW you only have 1160 KW left before any issues could come about
@@its-andrew-yI agree - if the batts are low on charge the converter can really draw current. If the batts are charged full, they draw very little. Best to charge the batts in the morning, turn the converter off, then run the AC.
We did Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire last September with no plans and it worked out great. Harvest Host was also great. We camped at brewerys and maple syrup businesses. 😋 they were our last 3 states to hit all 50 states. We had no plans at all and it worked out. We were there just before the leaves changing so missed that but also missed the massive crowds.
Not to sound too negative about your tire / wheel situation, but the problem you are having is exactly why I don't like lifting the suspension and going with oversized tires any more, especially when it's a tow rig.
No worries about sounding negative, we totally get it! Having a lifted truck is a fun toy, but isn't always practical like you said. Definitely some cons to consider when having a lifted truck 🙂 We appreciate your support in watching!
Agree with this post. These trucks are designed and engineered for towing and payload. When you lift it and add aftermarket wheels you’re asking for all sorts of problems. It can also throw off the suspension geometry changing angles and placing loads in positions the truck was designed to handle.
@@occasionalrv Yes, wheels with an offset other than the factory offset will throw off the steering geometry. Look up the Ackerman Principle for more information. Those front tires are scrubbing because those wheels have too much positive offset compared to the factory wheels. They are also placing additional load on the wheel bearings and other suspension components. Also, steering axis inclination comes into play., since the load is intended to be through the ball joints, centered on the centerline of the tire. Put aftermarket offset wheels on and all of the engineering goes out the window.
I had the sides of my tires. Hitting the control arm. I was told the offset was good. When I bought the wheels. This started to wear the side wall. I added high quality spacers. Problem solved. As an added bonus. My truck rode much nicer with the larger offset.
Thank you SO much for this video! You explained perfectly regarding the too large of a tire rubbing inside of the wheel well. That's something we will FOR SURE keep in mind when changing the tires for our RV toad. Thank you for that!👍🏽😁
Absolutely! We are glad it can be of some help 😃 I have been reading through the comments and others mentioned that the truck could also be out of alignment and causing this....so I am gonna go down that rabbit hole today and do some more research. Thank you for watching!
That offset is not causing the tire wear issue. You have an alignment issue. You need a front end alignment. The tread pattern on those tires don’t help with tire wear either. Those tires are “scalloping”. A more aggressive tire pattern will have a tendency to do that more than a less aggressive highway tire would. I don’t see you traveling in snow and ice, I would think you would be much better off with more of a highway tire. Better longevity, and less likely to wear bad or unevenly. Just my 2C. Love the channel. PS: The offset may cause some contact, but it isn’t causing the wear. If they did an alignment on the truck when you bought the tires, they didn’t do a very good job.
Scalloping isn’t caused by alignment. Scalloping is caused by running the wrong tire pressure. There is no scalloping of that tire. The inside blocks are still intact. Seeing the wear pattern being only on the outside of the tire, and with out seeing the other side, it COULD be a camber issue. But with oversize tires and such a deep backspace, the likely answer is clearance over camber. I’d have to see the other tire and the positions at full lock.
As an addendum to this information, which is correct, you may also be having a strut issue with the truck. I don't know when you last replaced them, but if the strut is worn out, it will allow the tire to "bounce" and not keep constant contact with tread, thus causing scalloping of the All Terrain tire
@@Skwatt7171 . They would have a shock. But really bad shock could add to the problem, but I bet they would know if they had a bad shock. Just because of all the traveling they do. I hate to say it, but a lot of these discount tire places don’t have experienced alignment techs. And a lot of the time, that is the problem, unfortunately. Go to a reputable “alignment “ shop and have them look at it. The problem is, if they have started scalloping, I doubt a good alignment shop will align it without tire replacement because once they start that scalloping tire wear, even with an alignment it will continue to wear that same way because it has started doing it. I own a collision repair shop, and I own trucks, and I’ve seen this many times with friends that go to the bargain basement alignment shop being done by the tech that has been there for three month. Sorry, hopefully I haven’t offended anyone.
@@cwhite0708 . A truck with its toe adjustment set in to much will cause the outside of a tire this aggressive to cup or scallop. Ask an alignment tech or shop. That is my experience and what I’m told by the guy that does all my shop alignments. Just what I have experienced and been told by a guy that’s done alignments for fifty years. 🤷♂️
@@garyjones5093 his tire is not scalloped though…. Scalloping is caused by suspension components being worn or failing, not alignment. A toe in wear pattern would be across the whole tire, not limited to the outside blocks. A camber issue would cause the outer tire wear though. And I know what shop guys and techs tell people, it’s always the same story no matter where you go or how long they’ve doing it… I do my own alignment after every lift I put on or have helped put on by hand with no computer. That’s not a toe in wear pattern
Hope you have a fantastic New England trip! We visited all the New England states about 6 years ago and absolutely loved it all. Wonderful things to see and do and of course some fabulous food 😂. We hope to visit again. Safe travels and God Bless ! ❤️
Even though the refrigerator is switched to gas, it will still require 12 volts to run the electrical circuitry in the refrigerator. Get a soft start. Love the videos, keep em coming!!
We have a EU3000 Honda thats 17 years old that runs our AC on high just fine. Ours of course didn’t include a phone app. You are not hurting the generator. We talk about a soft start but haven’t bought one. Love your videos!
My Honda 2200i will start my 13.5 A/c even without the soft start, but I did put one in anyway. Great service network, known and available parts, and easy to maintain. Love the Honda's!
For me, I dont want to carry gasoline if I dont have to. With mine, I can run mine forever on propane because I use the coaches propane system. Never need to refuel a hot generator. Just fill 30lb bottles when needed.
Another advantage of MicroAir EasyStarts, same come as your remote thermostats, is you can also run both AC units in a 30amp old school campsite. We use to run into them in old TT and other older campgrounds and gives you more flexibility. I can run either AC on our 2930RL using a 2600W Ryobi generator which is 10 lbs lighter and has similar Bluetooth features. I have the Hughes Power Watchdog which shows me the amperage being pulled while in a 30amp campsite so I can manage my connection, like turn the AC to fan only while I run the microwave, etc. We are not full timers, but hit the road once or twice a year for 6-8 weeks at a time and have crossed this great country several times from northern NV several times. We try not to travel in extreme heat so I have started to travel only with a twist to 30amp cable which is much lighter and easier to coil up on travel days than that heavy 50amp cord from GD.
Definitely need a soft start for a generator that small. We all love Honda generators. So many other options for more powerful generators. Thank you for all your tips and information and fun positive energy. Safe travels 🙏🏼❤️
Active controls has a good soft start that works with generators and you can monitor it through your phone too! I have one and I love it. I have the 50amp one and I can use it at sites with only 30amp service and still get to use both A/C's.
We have a Coleman Mach 8 on our camper with an onan 2500 watt generator. Worked fine for AC. I actually put a soft start in and you can really tell the difference when running the generator or not. There is no big thug ( draw ) at the beginning. Put the soft start in as we are upgrading to lithium batteries and want to run a/c on batteries so think your 3500 watt generator will be fine for your 1 ac! I live in Massachusetts, and your going to LOVE Maine be sure to travel Rt. 1 the shore route, it's got the best sights! Love your channel keep up the good work! LET ER RIP!
I would put soft starts on both of you ac units. The start ups are much quieter and easier to sleep through when running at night. You won’t have any issues with your generator with soft starts installed.
New England camping is the best! I'm on the NH/Maine border and there are so many great places to stay. I was just up at Point Sebago this past weekend in Casco, ME. It's beautiful
Just installed two stiff starts on our A/C units. Can’t wait to see the difference. We need to test on generator like your doing. Thanks for the video. Awesome as always!!
Hey guys, Massachusetts here. A quick heads up. Massachusetts is a pain in the butt with just about everything. It's expensive, pushy and full of drama.😂 Stay safe and I do hope you get some enjoyment on this journey. 👋😃
We're here NOW and couldn't agree more. I told my wife, we got it under our belt and will not be back. Too much hype. And these people driving around here earn their name, Massholes.
Our EU 3000 has served us well for the past 10 years as well, running our 13000 BTU roof top air. A soft start is defiantly worth it and an easy install. We boondock quite a bit an we just have to remember to turn off certain things when we use other appliances. Columbus day weekend, Bar Harbor would be cool!! KOA
First thing we did was install soft starts on both our AC units the week we bought our RV. We can run one unit off our batteries with a small 2000w inverter and our solar setup on our travel trailer. 🐾🐾
Get or make a ground bonding connector to use your surge suppressor. We had to do the same thing. Also, 8.5 hours of runtime is at 1/4 throttle. It will run 3.5 hours at full rated power. Fun episode though. It’s good to see “experienced” RVers learning new stuff.
We installed soft starts on both our AC units. Purchased from Hutch Mountain. They have a great TH-cam video showing the install. Super easy!! Tell them Rudy sent you. They’ll walk you thru the install over the phone!
I just got our Airstream out of storage. I have 2 AC’s 13500, and 15000 with MicroAir soft starts. I just ran BOTH AC’s on the Honda EU3200i! Handled the load just fine. The key is the Soft starts and get the larger one going first.
We live in New Hampshire and Tri-State RV Park is always our 1st stop for a night on any trip south or west and our last stop coming home. It’s just the right distance and easy off/easy on the interstate. Camping in New England is expensive and it gets worse the closer you get to the ocean.
I installed soft starts on both my air conditioners. Definitely makes a big difference. We plan on going to Maine next summer so I’m looking forward to your trip. Love the videos one of the best channels.
The Easy Start takes 30-60 minutes to install & makes a huge difference in lowering the amperage required to start the compressor. The difference in the two scenarios is so dramatic. The Easy Start stores most of the surge energy within itself & only sips current from the generator at startup. It was worth every penny. I did not do the East Start install on our Imagine because our Furrion A/C seemed to start okay with our Champion 4200W fuel fuel generator. We only travel Spring & Fall as we spend our summers in CO @ 8,000' on full hookups & our winters in FL on full hookups. We do a lot of Harvest Hosts in between, so mostly in GA or N FL do we need the AC. When it's 85 F & Humid we use it, lol. Keep up the good work! Davey & Sheila
Great demonstration on the genny. Looking forward to the Maine trip. We have a Honda EU2200i Companion and a 13.5 BTU air conditioner in our small 16 foot toy hauler. I have a neutral ground bonding plug I use with our surge protector because it doesn't like the lack of a grounding cable on the genny. I am considering a soft start but the highest draw from the AC is right around 1100 watts. Whenever I turn off the AC, I try to turn it to fan low so when I start it back up, it's not automatically going to the AC. Here is the process I use to start the AC: 1. Shut everything off in the breaker panel, including the main breaker. 2. Connect the generator with the 30 amp cord. 3. Start the genny and the app. 4. Turn on the main breaker. 5. Turn on the breaker to the AC. 6. Start the AC and check the draw on the app. 7. Turn the AC to cool and check the draw on the app. 8. Cool down.
Had the same issue with my tires. I put a 2.5” leveling kit on my truck, and it fixed the issue. Just know if you go with the 2.5” leveling kit, you will most likely need to change the front shocks as well. Hope that helps🤘
Soft start on the AC is a must. I use a 3000 w generator and it runs my AC without issue. I also have a 3600 /4200 surge W generator and I run two AC of it just fine. Fridge is on Propane. Water heater on Propane. Converter runs continuously without issue.
I have had my Honda 1000 for over 20 years. I use it to run my 30Amp RV. Ok so I use it to help charge my batteries in which I have a ton. But all in all the Honda will take care of you if you take care of it.
Look into Micro Air Easy Start. Much better than just a Soft Start capacitor. I have one on my camper a/c and my house a/c as well. Both units start and run much easier and quieter than without. There is also blue tooth to a phone app to see what it's drawing at startup and running.
Good test and you already have a lot of comments. You did not hurt the generator, it has more then enough safeties protecting it. You definitely need soft start on the AC units. I did not buy the MicroAir version, for less then the cost of 1 of theirs I bought 2 of another brand.
We have a 5000 Watt predator generator with our 30 amp system. We still use our watchdog surge protector. We also use propane so we can store our generator in the doorway inside our camper during travel days. Hands down best decision ever! We also have a factory 200 watt solar panel on our roof
I run my A/C off a 2200i, but it only works bc of my soft start. I found an excellent company in SW Utah called Hutch Mountain and they were amazing with support on the install. They also sell propane conversion kits for Honda generators, which was very convenient to carry propane instead of dealing with gas/diesel.
Don't worry about it. If it was too much, the engine would just stall, which would mean your demand was higher than it can provide. Definitely get a soft start and you could leave the battery charger going while running the a/c. Happy travels, stay cool 😊
I am so excited about your Maine trip. Yes, please visit the area and sampling food ...push, your boundaries. Thank you, darlings, for every vlog. Happyevef Hanks xxoo. ❤❤❤❤
The soft start is my recommendation, it really works great. We can even run our AC with our Honda 2200i. The Honda has an overload protection that not allow an overload to harm the generator. It simply cause the overload light to come on the front panel of the generator and you reset it.
RVSoftStart on both our AC’s is what we needed. You fid Not hurt your generator. The generator will disconnect if more power is demanded than it can supply. No problem, no harm. The High & Low you mention is only for your fan speeds. The compressor kicking on is what pulls the mist current. The High fan pulls a little more than low but not that much. If low fan and compressor puts you close to gen max wattage, going to high fan could cause the generator to disconnect on overload.
"VA", like what is on the dial on the app, is Volt Amps. It is a combination of Watts "W" and Volt Amp Reactance "VAR". Volts and amps are part of the equation but in the end power usage is measured in either Watts or Volt Amps, typically Watts.
The soft start for you AC will reduce the initial draw from the generator. Definitely worth adding to your ac units Also, leave generator on eco. It will only kick on when needed. Ie…each time the compressor turns on We have two Honda generators and have never had an issue running both ac’s. Our rig is a Keystone Montana
For your tire issue, they make wheel spacers that bolt on behind the wheel. This will make your overall foot print a little wider but it should help with the rub issue
@@fritzramsey9440 they do make those… but for the love of god do NOT get spacers. Even the best spacers add yet another fail point in the drive train, not to mention adding in-needed wear on the axle shafts. Even on vehicles that aren’t constantly towing, I would never suggest spacers for anyone unless there is absolutely no other option.
Microair ez start. Why starve your most important electrical appliance when it needs electricity the most. Plus, it will be fun to watch you install it.
By all means install a soft start…I also have the same energy management system and a $5.00 cord cap with a copper ridge between the ground and the natural leg plugged into the generator will allow the power to flow through the EMS to your power center. We have a 3500 max generator and run the 15.5K A/C unit and most everything else, being careful to turn off the a/c when using other high wattage appliances. Now with a solar array and 3K inverter, we can run the a/c on the generator and use every thing else as well combining the two systems…really good boondocking experience. Love your approach to all of your experiments and the resolve to press on through circumstances you don’t have much knowledge of. Keep it up you guys, love the adventure!
We went to Maine in August last year and didn't make reservations a lot of the time and didn't have much of a problem. we stayed at a place called the Peppermint Park Camping Resort in Plainfield Massachusetts was a nice park and we stayed at the Spacious Skies in Balsam Woods Maine was a nice park with very big Rv spots. Have fun it very pretty up there this time of year.
I thought y'all had soft starts? Definitely worth it. They will also walk you thru installation on the phone. Also you are not likely to damage Jenny. They will simply shut down before sustaining any damage.
Hey guys, Big fans of the channel! We are located in the Burlington Vermont area. If you have any questions or run into any issues feel free to reach out. We have a 30amp electric hook up and water next to our home if you get in a pinch for a place to stay. Enjoy New England❤️
We did a 6 week trip from Ocala, Florida up thru the New England states. Bar Harbor, Maine and Acadia National Park were our favorite stops. Enjoy Hanks!
On our Solitude I installed an East Start (soft start) and ran one Coleman 15,000 Air with a 2200 Briggs. When we bought our Brinkley and I put the soft start on the Furrion it wouldn't quite run it. We bought a Max Pead 3500 and it runs it great. It's quiet and doesn't weigh much. About 52 LBs. Your Honda should run that air easy!
Interesting things to think about with tire width. We're just about to take some oversized tires and rims back to stock on an old F350. The only thing I like about ours is the turning radius so this is very timely info. Appreciate it ya'll!
So excited you're coming our way even if we might not get to see you. Just note nearly all campgrounds in NH and Maine close Columbus weekend. There are a few year-round campgrounds like Danforth Bay in Freedom, NH. Do a "year round campgrounds" search if you're staying later. Check with your buddies, Chad and Tara (Changing Lanes). I think they're also headed to Maine. 😊
🚨 Our RV generator overloaded during this test... way to go Hanks 😄Do you feel like we hurt our baby generator at all? We wanna keep the little guy going for a long time! Thank you all for your amazing support. We are EXCITED to kick off this series with you!!
No it won’t hurt the Gen set. If it gets overloaded the Gen set will pop the breaker on the Gen set and stop producing power.
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You are good. If it overloads, the c/b will pop and keep you from any damage.
I haven’t finished watching the video yet, but I think the workaround is having your neutral and your grounds tied together you can do that with a wire and a male plug. You can make one.😊
I haven’t finished watching the video yet, but I think the workaround is having your neutral and your grounds tied together you can do that with a wire and a male plug. You can make one.😊
Former electrician, generator tech, and switchgear tech here. You didn't overload your generator, you experience a motor- starting surge, which is 7-11 times steady-state running power. No worries.
Overloading the generator alone will not typically hurt the generator, and at most it will trip the breaker on the generator.
Yes, soft start is a fabulous idea, and has no real downside. (Not expensive, easy to install, and fairly idiot-proof - I don't know why these are standard equipment now, I really don't.) With soft-start installed on both A/C units, you might be able to run both, but not to start both, at the same time!
The yellow adapter is a bonding adapter which connects your ground connection with your neutral (white wire).
Here are things that can and will hurt your generator: connecting your generator to the grid (lets all the magic smoke out of the generator, and it won't make electricity), flooding (like water, not fuel, so keep it on a set of your levelling blocks, just in case), lack of lubrication, not maintaining the filters, and not running the generator at least once a month - under considerable load (A/C works well) for a half hour or so. It's also a good idea to start up the generator for about five minutes before loading it, and unloading it about five minutes before shutting the generator down.
With summer temperatures soaring, the grid will not be able to reliably cool people, and certainly not at RV parks. Keeping an inverter generator is a matter of life and death. This week, London is reporting 107F temperatures and much of Texas is getting 120F, which is in fact going to kill a lot of people.
I have a built-in Onan generator in our motorhome, and I'm putting one of these in the pickup truck we intend to buy this winter. - just in case. We will install a dual fuel system so that we can run it on gasoline or on propane.
Homework assignment: buy a Kill-O-Watt meter, and build a list of the load of all your appliances. It's a great resource!
I believe the Furrion units come from the factory with soft starts. So they are beginning to come from the factory with them.
Why do you need the bonding adapter? Ima about to start using a genlrator for my camper so I'd like to know before mess something up
@@jeremypiazza3093 not all generators have a 30A RV plug on the front. The bonding adapter "adapts" the 30A socket on the generator to a standard RV 30A plug
@@thisoldrelic About time.
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Not using a bonding adapter will not mess anything up, it mostly just reduces frustration, and I don't know about you, but I don't go camping for added frustration!
I'm going to answer this with a useful analogy so that I don't have to introduce you to James Clerk Maxwell and quantum mechanics. This is not accurate, but simpler, and it's harmless. Plenty of electricians use this analogy all their career.
The neutral lead serves to combine waves of AC to create a mathematical "zero" voltage. A ground actually IS "zero" volts. The very small resistance in the white wire of a very long conductor (like your shore power cable) creates a small voltage difference between neutral and ground, which can trip a GCFI breaker or outlet - over and over, and over. The power panel in a sticks and bricks power panel bonds the two at the panel - so you know that this practice (bonding the neutral to ground) is harmless.
Hope this helps.
You can not go wrong by adding a AC soft start. It is much easier on the AC starting up. Generator, 30a, 50a, it will be easier on the AC. Many TH-cam videos on the subject. Take care.
Plus 1 on the soft start. but get a good one. There are several methods to design a "softstart" , I am not going to recommend one over others but basically you want a NON relay type...one that uses solid-state throughout.
Just go, use it . and see what you can do. then modify as you learn.
Exactly. I added one to just the bedroom AC and I can run it off my EU2200i. I made sure I bought the soft start designed specifically for my Coleman.
Don't worry about it. I've been running a EU3000 Honda for 10 years. The Inverters knows how to say no. It has a breaker to protect it. The bigger issue is can your appliances take a surge. The inverter is bulletproof for sure. Mine has 1000s of hours. Keep it maintained and your Honda Inverter will not let you down. Yes I have thrown my breaker often. AC, microwave, coffee maker. Oops. There is a limit and the inverter will let you know. Happy Travels
@user-cw9yk4jq9i I always wondered why the EU3000is's operating wattage is 2800 watts and the EU3200 is 2600. The Eu3000is has a large engine and maybe that is why.
You need a bonding plug for the generator to get it to work with your surge protector. The tire wear is not caused by rubbing. You changed the tire with and offset from stock. This changed the scrub radius among other things. You need to have an alignment shop add some negative camber to get more weight on the inside of the tires. Also looks like the pressure is too low.😮
I tend to agree with Gary, I believe it has something to do with a floating neutral on the Honda gen set.
Agree with others about the soft start for the AC. And if you want to avoid having to bypass your surge protector, look into buying a neutral-ground bonding plug.
I have no idea what yr talking about
@@007nadineLTH-cam "rv soft start" or "grounding/neutral bonding plug" depending on which one you don't understand
Your generator has a floating neutral. To make your EMS work with generator you need a bonding plug. I have made bonding plugs before just using a male plug and an insulated wire.
To make:
Buy a replacement male plug from hardware store. Like one used to repair an extension cord (120volt).
Then connect the neutral prong to the grounding prong with an insulated jumper wire. You have made a bonding plug.
Then plug bonding plug in one of your spare 120volt outlets on generator like you are plugging in an appliance cord.
Congratulations you’re done!
A neutral-ground bonding plug will solve your EMS bypass issue. Also, Jenny has a breaker, so don’t worry about overloading her. If you can start the AC without tripping the breaker, you can probably run it on high.
We run a 13.5K BTU on 2200 watt
Inverter generator and installed SoftStart. Works great with a little overhead.
John & Mary
I have the same... Do you ever try to run it on eco mode...? 🤔 I have heard that you can with a 13500 ac... 👀
What John & Mary said. Honda 2200W inverter generator works fine to power ONE major appliance at a time. Air conditioner (with soft start) OR microwave OR toaster oven.
My refrigerator draws about 350 watts on electric. It can be temporarily switched to propane if the total current draw gets too close to the rated continuous load (1800W) from the generator.
I had been using a Honda 3000W gen, but it weighs too much to load/unload by myself from the truck. (My wife isn't a camper.) Had to just roll it onto the tailgate. The new 2200W gen also takes a lot less space in the truck bed.
Definitely get a soft starter. You can run your A/C with a 2200 watt generator if you have that installed.
One A/C, anyway. I think they have two. But yes, soft start is definitely the way to go
Wow that's incredible! We definitely need to look into the soft starts!
@@HappilyEverHanks I have a 3500 Predator and it doesn’t struggle with my A/C with soft start.
@@HappilyEverHanks I have a Honda 2200 generator and never have any problem running my 13.5k A/C with it (or running it off a 15 amp household connection at home) with the soft start. Just don't try to run the microwave at the same time.
You shouldn't have to worry about hurting the generator, regardless. Those Hondas are designed to shut off if there's a problem.
Yeah, not so much. If those are 15k units, a 2200 will NOT work even with a Softstart. I have one installed still won't run a 15k unit. Sold my Honda. I bought a Gernac 3500 with duel fuel and this works great. Also has remote start and shutoff. SoftStart is good even if you don't run a generator.
As an RV Tech, you will need two things to run one A/C on a generator. You need an Easy Start or Soft Start. Both will do the same thing. They gradually apply current to the compressor so that you do not get the high in-rush of current that you saw during your test. The second thing is a plug that creates a ground to neutral bond so that your surge protector will continue to protect your RV and you won't need to put the surge protector into bypass.
I love that you say voltage or amperage while looking at the watts. (volts x amps = watts) Yes soft start will help with that surge when the AC kicks on. You can probably charge the battery and run the AC at the same time. Your generator seems pretty smart and has built in protection/sensors so I wouldn't be too shy about seeing what she can do.
RV tech here, bonded ground plug and soft start on the a/c's.
I installed a Micro Air soft start on the AC in our travel trailer. My EU2200i starts and runs it just fine. And don’t worry if you damaged your generator. You didn’t. These modern generators are very good at protecting themselves.
I have never seen so much talking and game planning for something like this lol. Usually we just do stuff and then when it goes wrong then the talking begins. This is awesome to watch.
If you guys decide to come over to NH we have a Boondockers Welcome site with electric and water on our farmstead. We would love to have you over sometime!
First time posting, been watching your videos for a couple years. Yes, soft start, add a grounding plug to your generator and you wont have to bypass the surge protector, check out the national and state forest campgrounds, they are way cheaper. And look into getting a berkey water purifier. You will never have to buy water bottles again. Great videos! We love maine! Planning on retiring there! Have a blast.
We learned that leaving our generators in ecomode caused the starlink to reboot each time we used the coffee pot or the microwave. Forget ecomode, let 'er rip so that the Starlink router does not get damaged. Love you guys, keep the videos coming!
Consider visiting Boldt Castle on an Island in the Saint Lawernce Seaway. Close to Watertown NY. Take the tour, it's out-a sight !!!
We did two years ago and enjoyed it greatly.
This is good information about the new 3200 Honda. We love our EU3000is Honda - it has been perfect for powering our 5th wheel for almost 20 years now. About 95% of our camping is dry camping, usually lakefront sites without power. Our Honda EU300is will power the air conditioner in our camper, as long as we've already had the generator connected and running for a few minutes before turning on the A/C. That way the refrigerator compressor and air conditioning aren't drawing high power all at the same instance.
On a side note - I doubt that outside tire wear is from rubbing. It looks more like typical all-terrain tire wear from either mis-alignment or just lots of highway miles. They do look cool - but I'd recommend that you consider tire that wears well for towing/highway use as much as you do.
Don't use Eco mode when the AC can start. You don't have to worry about unplugging anything before connecting generator. Just make sure AC is off. Let generator run a few minutes before connecting and let it run a minute after before starting AC. After AC is running, you can put it in Eco mode as long as you know the AC won't shut off and start again in that time...but it's much less stress to just not worry about eco mode. Also make sure to turn off AC and disconnect load from generator before turning generator off (letting it run a minute with no load before turning off as well).
Also, you should probably install soft starts for both your AC and generator's sake. We killed our first AC, probably from running off a normal 15A outlet occasionally? I don't think the generator really cares but you do have a more fancy generator. The soft start or easy start are magical devices though.
This is really great information, Patrick! Thank you for sharing with us 😀 The Eco mode is such a great feature. I love how quiet it is. Do you have a Honda generator as well?
@@HappilyEverHanks Firman Dual Fuel Inverter Portable Generator 4000W Electric Start - which was $600 at Costco last I checked.
I would suggest shutting off the main breaker in the rv before connecting to a running generator. Just like you plug your trailer into shore power and have the breaker off when connecting to shore power
LOL. You guys overthought this one. I do recommend the Micro-Air SoftStart. I run my AC easily on a 2400-watt generator with a SoftStart. It was fun watching you guys work through this one, but a huge bummer about the tires and rims. Thanks for sharing. You never know who, or how many people might benefit from things we share.
I tested generators for 35 years, believe me you are the first people to overload one!!! Is it a GOOD idea, probably not did it hurt it more than likely not! A soft start is a great idea! Happy Trails! ❤❤
It will do what it can do, if if can't it will juat stop - no harm done :)
I recently started full time living in a RV and stumbled across your channel. Thank you so much for all of the invaluable information! You've helped me be a lot more confident in my decision and avoid some pitfalls. Thanks!
The AC turns on in two phases.
1- the fans turn on.
2- the compressor turns on. This is the large draw which caused you alert. A softstart will reduce this instantaeous current draw.
So what we initially saw was the fans turning on regarding the generator numbers on the phone? That's really good to know. We will look into the soft starts for sure! Thank you!
exactly this, it’s the compressor kick up that causes the surge. soft start will help. also make sure you run the generator a little while to charge the batteries before firing up the ac and lastly consider using the dry mode
@@HappilyEverHanks Also recommend you turn eco throttle off for the initial ac surge.
@@HappilyEverHanks No Offense here but with a 3200 Gen. you are pretty close to what would be a safe with 1400+ KW you only have 1160 KW left before any issues could come about
@@its-andrew-yI agree - if the batts are low on charge the converter can really draw current. If the batts are charged full, they draw very little. Best to charge the batts in the morning, turn the converter off, then run the AC.
We did Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire last September with no plans and it worked out great. Harvest Host was also great. We camped at brewerys and maple syrup businesses. 😋 they were our last 3 states to hit all 50 states. We had no plans at all and it worked out. We were there just before the leaves changing so missed that but also missed the massive crowds.
Not to sound too negative about your tire / wheel situation, but the problem you are having is exactly why I don't like lifting the suspension and going with oversized tires any more, especially when it's a tow rig.
No worries about sounding negative, we totally get it! Having a lifted truck is a fun toy, but isn't always practical like you said. Definitely some cons to consider when having a lifted truck 🙂 We appreciate your support in watching!
Agree with this post. These trucks are designed and engineered for towing and payload. When you lift it and add aftermarket wheels you’re asking for all sorts of problems. It can also throw off the suspension geometry changing angles and placing loads in positions the truck was designed to handle.
@@occasionalrv Yes, wheels with an offset other than the factory offset will throw off the steering geometry. Look up the Ackerman Principle for more information. Those front tires are scrubbing because those wheels have too much positive offset compared to the factory wheels. They are also placing additional load on the wheel bearings and other suspension components. Also, steering axis inclination comes into play., since the load is intended to be through the ball joints, centered on the centerline of the tire. Put aftermarket offset wheels on and all of the engineering goes out the window.
I had the sides of my tires. Hitting the control arm. I was told the offset was good. When I bought the wheels. This started to wear the side wall. I added high quality spacers. Problem solved. As an added bonus. My truck rode much nicer with the larger offset.
it is a no brainer that a soft start is MANDATORY for this scenario!!! and one should be installed just for ac longevity.... 🤠
Look into an Easy Start. They will reduce the amount of power to start the compressor
Hey Joseph! Will do 🙂 Thank you for the suggestion
Thank you SO much for this video! You explained perfectly regarding the too large of a tire rubbing inside of the wheel well. That's something we will FOR SURE keep in mind when changing the tires for our RV toad. Thank you for that!👍🏽😁
Absolutely! We are glad it can be of some help 😃 I have been reading through the comments and others mentioned that the truck could also be out of alignment and causing this....so I am gonna go down that rabbit hole today and do some more research. Thank you for watching!
That offset is not causing the tire wear issue. You have an alignment issue. You need a front end alignment. The tread pattern on those tires don’t help with tire wear either. Those tires are “scalloping”. A more aggressive tire pattern will have a tendency to do that more than a less aggressive highway tire would. I don’t see you traveling in snow and ice, I would think you would be much better off with more of a highway tire. Better longevity, and less likely to wear bad or unevenly. Just my 2C. Love the channel. PS: The offset may cause some contact, but it isn’t causing the wear. If they did an alignment on the truck when you bought the tires, they didn’t do a very good job.
Scalloping isn’t caused by alignment. Scalloping is caused by running the wrong tire pressure. There is no scalloping of that tire. The inside blocks are still intact. Seeing the wear pattern being only on the outside of the tire, and with out seeing the other side, it COULD be a camber issue. But with oversize tires and such a deep backspace, the likely answer is clearance over camber. I’d have to see the other tire and the positions at full lock.
As an addendum to this information, which is correct, you may also be having a strut issue with the truck. I don't know when you last replaced them, but if the strut is worn out, it will allow the tire to "bounce" and not keep constant contact with tread, thus causing scalloping of the All Terrain tire
@@Skwatt7171 . They would have a shock. But really bad shock could add to the problem, but I bet they would know if they had a bad shock. Just because of all the traveling they do. I hate to say it, but a lot of these discount tire places don’t have experienced alignment techs. And a lot of the time, that is the problem, unfortunately. Go to a reputable “alignment “ shop and have them look at it. The problem is, if they have started scalloping, I doubt a good alignment shop will align it without tire replacement because once they start that scalloping tire wear, even with an alignment it will continue to wear that same way because it has started doing it. I own a collision repair shop, and I own trucks, and I’ve seen this many times with friends that go to the bargain basement alignment shop being done by the tech that has been there for three month. Sorry, hopefully I haven’t offended anyone.
@@cwhite0708 . A truck with its toe adjustment set in to much will cause the outside of a tire this aggressive to cup or scallop. Ask an alignment tech or shop. That is my experience and what I’m told by the guy that does all my shop alignments. Just what I have experienced and been told by a guy that’s done alignments for fifty years. 🤷♂️
@@garyjones5093 his tire is not scalloped though…. Scalloping is caused by suspension components being worn or failing, not alignment. A toe in wear pattern would be across the whole tire, not limited to the outside blocks. A camber issue would cause the outer tire wear though. And I know what shop guys and techs tell people, it’s always the same story no matter where you go or how long they’ve doing it… I do my own alignment after every lift I put on or have helped put on by hand with no computer. That’s not a toe in wear pattern
Hope you have a fantastic New England trip! We visited all the New England states about 6 years ago and absolutely loved it all. Wonderful things to see and do and of course some fabulous food 😂. We hope to visit again. Safe travels and God Bless ! ❤️
Thank you so much, Brenda!! We appreciate your kindness and support 🤗 Stay safe!
Even though the refrigerator is switched to gas, it will still require 12 volts to run the electrical circuitry in the refrigerator. Get a soft start. Love the videos, keep em coming!!
We have a EU3000 Honda thats 17 years old that runs our AC on high just fine. Ours of course didn’t include a phone app. You are not hurting the generator. We talk about a soft start but haven’t bought one.
Love your videos!
My Honda 2200i will start my 13.5 A/c even without the soft start, but I did put one in anyway. Great service network, known and available parts, and easy to maintain. Love the Honda's!
I turn my generator on at RV parks once a week just to exercise it I let it run for about 45 minutes
That's a good idea! We need to run ours more often. We have been doing the treatment additive for the gas which helps
Once a week is a little excessive. 45 mins per is excessive too. We run ours once every 3 months for 10-15 mins. We do use a fuel stabilizer.
Just get a propane generator... No concerns about carbs
We run an EU 3000 Honda. With throttle mode off it will power our fridge (residential 110 V) and both AC's. It has never let us down.
For me, I dont want to carry gasoline if I dont have to. With mine, I can run mine forever on propane because I use the coaches propane system. Never need to refuel a hot generator. Just fill 30lb bottles when needed.
I'm super happy with my fireman dual fuel...
The best thing about using the propane is no need to winterize it
Another advantage of MicroAir EasyStarts, same come as your remote thermostats, is you can also run both AC units in a 30amp old school campsite. We use to run into them in old TT and other older campgrounds and gives you more flexibility. I can run either AC on our 2930RL using a 2600W Ryobi generator which is 10 lbs lighter and has similar Bluetooth features. I have the Hughes Power Watchdog which shows me the amperage being pulled while in a 30amp campsite so I can manage my connection, like turn the AC to fan only while I run the microwave, etc. We are not full timers, but hit the road once or twice a year for 6-8 weeks at a time and have crossed this great country several times from northern NV several times. We try not to travel in extreme heat so I have started to travel only with a twist to 30amp cable which is much lighter and easier to coil up on travel days than that heavy 50amp cord from GD.
Definitely need a soft start for a generator that small. We all love Honda generators. So many other options for more powerful generators. Thank you for all your tips and information and fun positive energy. Safe travels 🙏🏼❤️
Active controls has a good soft start that works with generators and you can monitor it through your phone too! I have one and I love it. I have the 50amp one and I can use it at sites with only 30amp service and still get to use both A/C's.
Definitely a soft start will help.
We figured it would be a great help. We can't wait to get some :)
A/C soft starter is the best thing ever. Fixed our issues perfect
We have a Coleman Mach 8 on our camper with an onan 2500 watt generator. Worked fine for AC. I actually put a soft start in and you can really tell the difference when running the generator or not. There is no big thug ( draw ) at the beginning. Put the soft start in as we are upgrading to lithium batteries and want to run a/c on batteries so think your 3500 watt generator will be fine for your 1 ac!
I live in Massachusetts, and your going to LOVE Maine be sure to travel Rt. 1 the shore route, it's got the best sights! Love your channel keep up the good work!
LET ER RIP!
MicroAir soft start for the win!! I have them on both my RV and my home unit. It's definitely worth the investment
RV soft start is a must!
Add a soft start to each of your ac units. We have 2 and we run both on 30amps. Soft start is a game changer!
I would put soft starts on both of you ac units. The start ups are much quieter and easier to sleep through when running at night. You won’t have any issues with your generator with soft starts installed.
Definitely need a soft start, and or a bigger generator. Overloading does dammaged your generator if it keeps happening! Love this video 📹 ❤
New England camping is the best! I'm on the NH/Maine border and there are so many great places to stay. I was just up at Point Sebago this past weekend in Casco, ME. It's beautiful
Nice to see you trying new things to be comfortable off grid. Soft start is a great idea. Keep pushing, it's liberating...
Just installed two stiff starts on our A/C units. Can’t wait to see the difference. We need to test on generator like your doing. Thanks for the video. Awesome as always!!
I agree with buying soft start for your A/C's. I run my A/C on 115V 20amps. I've actually ran 2 A/C's with my soft starts.
SURPRISE!!!, The generator that everyone else in the RV community recommended and uses worked!!
yes get a soft start for both. We just did solar for our DRV and it is very easy to install. The solar will run the ac and everything in our rig
Hey guys, Massachusetts here. A quick heads up. Massachusetts is a pain in the butt with just about everything. It's expensive, pushy and full of drama.😂
Stay safe and I do hope you get some enjoyment on this journey.
👋😃
We're here NOW and couldn't agree more. I told my wife, we got it under our belt and will not be back. Too much hype. And these people driving around here earn their name, Massholes.
Yes. Get a soft start. Install it. Then redo your test and see how much better it is and less heavy surge to generator
Our EU 3000 has served us well for the past 10 years as well, running our 13000 BTU roof top air. A soft start is defiantly worth it and an easy install. We boondock quite a bit an we just have to remember to turn off certain things when we use other appliances. Columbus day weekend, Bar Harbor would be cool!! KOA
First thing we did was install soft starts on both our AC units the week we bought our RV. We can run one unit off our batteries with a small 2000w inverter and our solar setup on our travel trailer. 🐾🐾
Get or make a ground bonding connector to use your surge suppressor. We had to do the same thing.
Also, 8.5 hours of runtime is at 1/4 throttle. It will run 3.5 hours at full rated power.
Fun episode though. It’s good to see “experienced” RVers learning new stuff.
We installed soft starts on both our AC units. Purchased from Hutch Mountain. They have a great TH-cam video showing the install. Super easy!! Tell them Rudy sent you. They’ll walk you thru the install over the phone!
I just got our Airstream out of storage. I have 2 AC’s 13500, and 15000 with MicroAir soft starts. I just ran BOTH AC’s on the Honda EU3200i! Handled the load just fine. The key is the Soft starts and get the larger one going first.
We live in New Hampshire and Tri-State RV Park is always our 1st stop for a night on any trip south or west and our last stop coming home. It’s just the right distance and easy off/easy on the interstate.
Camping in New England is expensive and it gets worse the closer you get to the ocean.
Definitely add a Soft Start to your AC. And buy / make a neutral bonding plug. That will make your surge suppressor happy to stay inline.
I installed soft starts on both my air conditioners. Definitely makes a big difference. We plan on going to Maine next summer so I’m looking forward to your trip. Love the videos one of the best channels.
The Easy Start takes 30-60 minutes to install & makes a huge difference in lowering the amperage required to start the compressor. The difference in the two scenarios is so dramatic. The Easy Start stores most of the surge energy within itself & only sips current from the generator at startup. It was worth every penny. I did not do the East Start install on our Imagine because our Furrion A/C seemed to start okay with our Champion 4200W fuel fuel generator. We only travel Spring & Fall as we spend our summers in CO @ 8,000' on full hookups & our winters in FL on full hookups. We do a lot of Harvest Hosts in between, so mostly in GA or N FL do we need the AC. When it's 85 F & Humid we use it, lol.
Keep up the good work!
Davey & Sheila
Great demonstration on the genny. Looking forward to the Maine trip. We have a Honda EU2200i Companion and a 13.5 BTU air conditioner in our small 16 foot toy hauler. I have a neutral ground bonding plug I use with our surge protector because it doesn't like the lack of a grounding cable on the genny. I am considering a soft start but the highest draw from the AC is right around 1100 watts. Whenever I turn off the AC, I try to turn it to fan low so when I start it back up, it's not automatically going to the AC.
Here is the process I use to start the AC:
1. Shut everything off in the breaker panel, including the main breaker.
2. Connect the generator with the 30 amp cord.
3. Start the genny and the app.
4. Turn on the main breaker.
5. Turn on the breaker to the AC.
6. Start the AC and check the draw on the app.
7. Turn the AC to cool and check the draw on the app.
8. Cool down.
Had the same issue with my tires. I put a 2.5” leveling kit on my truck, and it fixed the issue. Just know if you go with the 2.5” leveling kit, you will most likely need to change the front shocks as well. Hope that helps🤘
Soft start on the AC is a must. I use a 3000 w generator and it runs my AC without issue. I also have a 3600 /4200 surge W generator and I run two AC of it just fine. Fridge is on Propane. Water heater on Propane. Converter runs continuously without issue.
Soft Start will be a big help. We installed 2 on our Montana with dual 15s. No which we run. Safe travels in the Northeast.
I have had my Honda 1000 for over 20 years. I use it to run my 30Amp RV. Ok so I use it to help charge my batteries in which I have a ton. But all in all the Honda will take care of you if you take care of it.
Look into Micro Air Easy Start. Much better than just a Soft Start capacitor. I have one on my camper a/c and my house a/c as well. Both units start and run much easier and quieter than without. There is also blue tooth to a phone app to see what it's drawing at startup and running.
Good test and you already have a lot of comments. You did not hurt the generator, it has more then enough safeties protecting it. You definitely need soft start on the AC units. I did not buy the MicroAir version, for less then the cost of 1 of theirs I bought 2 of another brand.
We have a 5000 Watt predator generator with our 30 amp system. We still use our watchdog surge protector. We also use propane so we can store our generator in the doorway inside our camper during travel days. Hands down best decision ever! We also have a factory 200 watt solar panel on our roof
I run my A/C off a 2200i, but it only works bc of my soft start. I found an excellent company in SW Utah called Hutch Mountain and they were amazing with support on the install. They also sell propane conversion kits for Honda generators, which was very convenient to carry propane instead of dealing with gas/diesel.
Don't worry about it.
If it was too much, the engine would just stall, which would mean your demand was higher than it can provide. Definitely get a soft start and you could leave the battery charger going while running the a/c.
Happy travels, stay cool 😊
We have been using our 3,000 watt Honda for years. Turning off the eco mode to run the a/c. It works well!
Can't wait for your adventures to Maine! East coast and autumn colors, sounds amazing!!
I am so excited about your Maine trip. Yes, please visit the area and sampling food ...push, your boundaries. Thank you, darlings, for every vlog. Happyevef Hanks xxoo. ❤❤❤❤
The soft start is my recommendation, it really works great. We can even run our AC with our Honda 2200i. The Honda has an overload protection that not allow an overload to harm the generator. It simply cause the overload light to come on the front panel of the generator and you reset it.
RVSoftStart on both our AC’s is what we needed.
You fid Not hurt your generator.
The generator will disconnect if more power is demanded than it can supply. No problem, no harm.
The High & Low you mention is only for your fan speeds.
The compressor kicking on is what pulls the mist current. The High fan pulls a little more than low but not that much.
If low fan and compressor puts you close to gen max wattage, going to high fan could cause the generator to disconnect on overload.
This is the main reason why I installed a soft start!!
"VA", like what is on the dial on the app, is Volt Amps. It is a combination of Watts "W" and Volt Amp Reactance "VAR". Volts and amps are part of the equation but in the end power usage is measured in either Watts or Volt Amps, typically Watts.
Thanks for the clarification! That definitely helps explain it better. Appreciate you taking the time to break that down!
@@HappilyEverHanks no problem
The soft start for you AC will reduce the initial draw from the generator. Definitely worth adding to your ac units
Also, leave generator on eco. It will only kick on when needed. Ie…each time the compressor turns on
We have two Honda generators and have never had an issue running both ac’s. Our rig is a Keystone Montana
We have a microair easystart. Love it! Fan starts THEN the compressor starts. Our older 2k Honda not impacted.
For your tire issue, they make wheel spacers that bolt on behind the wheel. This will make your overall foot print a little wider but it should help with the rub issue
@@fritzramsey9440 they do make those… but for the love of god do NOT get spacers. Even the best spacers add yet another fail point in the drive train, not to mention adding in-needed wear on the axle shafts. Even on vehicles that aren’t constantly towing, I would never suggest spacers for anyone unless there is absolutely no other option.
Microair ez start. Why starve your most important electrical appliance when it needs electricity the most. Plus, it will be fun to watch you install it.
I love your content more every time I watch. I’ve had to go back and watch a ton of older ones just to try to catch up with you 3.
We have the same a/c. You may want to try it on high cool, and it may take fewer watts. A soft start is a good deal.
By all means install a soft start…I also have the same energy management system and a $5.00 cord cap with a copper ridge between the ground and the natural leg plugged into the generator will allow the power to flow through the EMS to your power center. We have a 3500 max generator and run the 15.5K A/C unit and most everything else, being careful to turn off the a/c when using other high wattage appliances. Now with a solar array and 3K inverter, we can run the a/c on the generator and use every thing else as well combining the two systems…really good boondocking experience.
Love your approach to all of your experiments and the resolve to press on through circumstances you don’t have much knowledge of. Keep it up you guys, love the adventure!
Hey there! If you’re going to Connecticut, we highly recommend Grandview Camping and Cabins in Moodus, CT. Great place when we were there in 2022!
Running an A/C with a Honda 2200 is no issue on our Mastervolt system. Full integration and hybrid inverters are a beautiful thing.
We went to Maine in August last year and didn't make reservations a lot of the time and didn't have much of a problem. we stayed at a place called the Peppermint Park Camping Resort in Plainfield Massachusetts was a nice park and we stayed at the Spacious Skies in Balsam Woods Maine was a nice park with very big Rv spots. Have fun it very pretty up there this time of year.
I thought y'all had soft starts? Definitely worth it. They will also walk you thru installation on the phone.
Also you are not likely to damage Jenny. They will simply shut down before sustaining any damage.
You guys a so real. I learn a lot. Thanks. 2022 Travato 59K, WNY
Hey guys,
Big fans of the channel! We are located in the Burlington Vermont area. If you have any questions or run into any issues feel free to reach out. We have a 30amp electric hook up and water next to our home if you get in a pinch for a place to stay. Enjoy New England❤️
We did a 6 week trip from Ocala, Florida up thru the New England states. Bar Harbor, Maine and Acadia National Park were our favorite stops. Enjoy Hanks!
On our Solitude I installed an East Start (soft start) and ran one Coleman 15,000 Air with a 2200 Briggs. When we bought our Brinkley and I put the soft start on the Furrion it wouldn't quite run it. We bought a Max Pead 3500 and it runs it great. It's quiet and doesn't weigh much. About 52 LBs. Your Honda should run that air easy!
Interesting things to think about with tire width. We're just about to take some oversized tires and rims back to stock on an old F350. The only thing I like about ours is the turning radius so this is very timely info. Appreciate it ya'll!
So excited you're coming our way even if we might not get to see you. Just note nearly all campgrounds in NH and Maine close Columbus weekend. There are a few year-round campgrounds like Danforth Bay in Freedom, NH. Do a "year round campgrounds" search if you're staying later. Check with your buddies, Chad and Tara (Changing Lanes). I think they're also headed to Maine. 😊
Thanks Hanks, soft starts on the a/c’s. Absolutely love your adventures!