Best way to Add Dual Motors to your eBike Build
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2022
- I came across a video showing an easy way to add dual hub motors to almost any existing ebike build. This is using grin technologies direct drive rh212 motor with their frankenrunner controller.
Should I try this build?
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I've got a Lectric XP 2.0 in August of 2021 that I've added an additional 48v 19.2AH battery from UnitPackPower to. Range is nice and in class 3 mode I just cheese it and rotate my my pedals slowly and get a consistent 25MPH. At a painstakingly slow 10MPH I can ride 60MI throttle only. Range at Class 2 top speed of 20MPH gets me ~35MI. Its been fun for sure. I have a trailer that I attach to the bike to haul things around and get groceries. As a matter of fact, I used the trailer to carry a cooler full of beer to a friends 4th of July party and it worked great! No other performance mods or anything, just the additional battery, stock motor/controller and its worked out fine for me. Happy riding!
Built a bafang mid drive (1750 peak watts)+throttle on a downhill mountain bike in 2016, put 60 thousand miles on it...Had to rebuild it twice...Went though too many sets of tires, brake pads, chains, derailurs, free wheels to keep straight in my feeble brain...Built a new one a few months ago with the Bafang BBSHD with the BAC controller, pushes 3,000 watts, and I have a comfort cruiser which is the Magicycle, with handle bars raised better front forks, big comfy seat with suspension seat post...have a motor for the front wheel but haven't done it yet...
Nice machine. Take good care of it. And it will take good care of you.
AR Grizzly. Got it at the end of April and have about 540 miles on it now. Love it.
You're nuts crossing rt 22 like that 😂 I live in Cranford btw. Love the videos!
Love how you ignore all the speed limits and stop signs.
I have the same disease 😂 You totally have to build the dual motorbike! Anything in life worth doing, is worth overdoing!!
Bought a Luna Cycle Eclipse last week. It’s supposed to be delivered this Thursday. I can’t wait.
How is it?
Troxus Skyhopper, I love it!!
Two motors running in sync is way better in inclement weather than just have a rear hub. That alone makes me want to do it. I'd definitely have to consider buying an additional battery though as well.
It definitely worth it as get up to speed faster and handles better with the dual motor.
My 2 eBikes are a RadRunner Plus and a Lectric XP 2 extended range. I'm 100% ready to take the Plus to the next level with a 35 mph capability. I'm car free so the added speed would be handy but the choices and advice it there can be daunting. You seem to have it together.
Just found your channel 🎉🎉 and love it.
how do you plan on taking it to 35mph?
@@ChefBased888 had I kept the bike I'd have gone with a 1000 watt motor and new controller. I decided on a new Aventon Aventure.2 with 28 mph built in.
What you just said taught me a lot my bike is ready for the mountains but I need more power to push your bike is set keep it how it is only upgrade battery and controller
I have the original 48V x-class added a 52 v and a front hub motor. I pretty much made a Grizzly. I enjoy it! I ordered the franken runner to pump up the stock motor. I may eventually switch out the stock motor and get a 1500 watt or a 2k watt and a higher voltage battery but not sure yet. Once you start modding you can never stop lol also I did the one throttle to both motors and wired in a switch to turn off one or the other. It’s dope!
Did you have to get a new controller? If so which one. Just got a 48v xclass new to e-bikes. Also where did you get the front hub?
Hey I just want to say I love to eat bike experience you really brought it up to level going down that Hill
I like the camera angle from the left handlebar, I can see what cars behind you are doing.
I have fitted a conversion kit to an old bike and it is great! It is a 48V 1000W hub motor fitted on the rear, it has plenty of power for top end speed and a good amount of torque for pulling away, but I am considering adding another hub motor on the front! Given what I have just told you I am guessing you are thinking 'why do you want to do that?' Well it is very simple, every time I go out I try and use the power sparingly trying not to get too lazy! But every time the motor gets too hot and cuts out, usually, and most annoyingly not far from home which is of course on quite a steep hill! So my thinking is that if I have 2 motors driving the bike it will reduce the strain on the single motor which should in theory significantly reduce the likelihood of either motor getting too hot and cutting out!?
Do it Hansel! Build the duel motor, "AWD" bike.
Yes I do see more and more ebikes around me.
Ariel kepler, i got it about 2 weeks ago and i love it. I use it to commute to work which is about 11 miles away. I would love to mod the bike, it can already hit 37, but i think with a bigger battery it can hit 40 or maybe even 45. I want to get a 72v setup, right now its a 52v. I feel like it is a gateway bike to motorcycles because i just want to go faster.
I understand your disease. I've been riding with a 48v mid drive (TSDZ2) that peaks around 1.2kW, but I recently bought 20 lipo batteries and I plan on building myself a 20S battery with them (72v 16ah). Gonna get one of the cyc x1 pro mid drive motors with the BAC2000 controller. With that said I'll need a more rugged bike, preferably steel frame with a legit fork and bigger tires/wheels.
I think I'm blessed because if not I wouldn't have met someone who is as spectacular as expert Mr Williams I think he's the best broker I ever seen
I also needed his info too I’ll write him thanks.
lipo batteries are very unstable great way to set your bike on fire
@@mustbee-bike994 can you tell me what is so unstable about them? in a regular working scenario, batteries don't just blow up for no reason. i would consider them unstable if there's a short circuit, the cell is physically damaged, the cell has been charge cycled too many times, too much current is being drawn, or if the cell got wet. all of which are not applicable. cylindrical lithium ion batteries are just as unstable in every regard as lipos are. lifepo4 batteries would be ideal for what you call a "stable" battery but their energy density is about half compared to liion/lipo. i will be benchmarking and testing all of my cells to ensure the maximum amount of safety and that they meet their 400amp rated output.
Really don't buy the cyc ,it is very loud I think it is the worst motor.
Ya I would love to see it so I can do the same on my aventon :)
Hey! New to your channel, and I love the content. I'm thinking of starting my own build, and I'm a big fan of yours. Would you be able to make a video about your first custom e-bike build? Like what you went through, things you suggest or being careful of? And if you'd change anything with what you know now? Basically a run-through of your setup and what it cost you.
I say leave the bike the way it is. It’s fun and not complicated. You channel is still growing so you can do the tow motor thing (again) on another build. I ended up buying a BeeCool Pathfinder as my first ebike. 48v 20ah battery with hydraulic brakes for $1600 (on sale).
Two motors is amazing I have Ariel Rider Grizzly it just works so nice together, I want to see you do it!
I have the Super73 Zx with the Chi battery ranger pack. I’ve had it for a little over 7 months now with almost 3,000 miles with no issues but I’d like to repaint it in the near future.
Just finished my first e bike kit, thinking about the next one already, was considering dual motors but thinking of just dual batteries instead. Don't need any more speed but more range would be nice.
we want to see it. I may need to for hills in small mountains area.
Just keep it simple like it is .maybe upgrade to the bafang g60 or whatever later on. I mean you can rip at 35 mph no problem already . I am seeing a lot more ebikes here in the prairies of Canada . I like the riding videos, mostly why I follow your channel is the rides. The builds are cool as well but I like the rides.
I have ordered a 750W E-bike. As far as I know, I'll be the first person with an E-Bike in a 100 mile radius.
I have a Moscow 48 V 1000w E bike and I got it two years ago when I was 12 and I am looking to make some upgrades if you have any upgrade recommendations I will take them
Here in Richmond Virginia if only saw one other Ebike and it was a very small bike ridden by a little old lady. Lol. I have the DJ Bikes Fat tire bike. I got it 3-4 months ago.
I bought a fat tire bike 26"and motor kit all from Amazon. Put it together in about 40 minutes. I have it over voltage at 60V. Does about 32mph with my 325lb self on it. I'm going to dual motor it and run 72V at 60-100 amps.
The ebikes/scooters presence has in increased were I'm at but it has been for a while being the preferred delivery vehicle so it doesn't seem substantial as for my bike, my 1st was a 2020 Rad Mini 4 great bike and recently moved to the Juiced Ripracer less upkeep I don't have to worry about the derailleur since the motor torque and speed more than makes up for the lack of it on my commute.
I recently invested in an e-bike. It’s a HiPeak fat tire foldable that tops at 22mph-23mph (All Stock) 750W brushless motor hub. And I think the controller puts out 1000W.
I’d really like to attempt to add another motor and upgrade the speed controller. I already have two 48V batteries. I just might need to invest in 2 more.
I gut a Harley coacoa fat tire scooter with a 2000 watt back rim, and 60v30ah battery with it's stock 2000 /30ah controler in which I did a shunt mod on when I got it last summer. I purchased a 80ah controller that I want to get an additional 2000 watt hub for the front and run it on a separate throttle which iam thinking about putting on the left side as a thumb throttle to use as sort of like my extra nitris lol but then will also need another battery, it just endless but love it
Hi,
I have a few questions for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!!!!
Do you think this suspension fork can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor ?
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
4 years and on my 4th build now! i have a fat tire trike with a 1500w front hub , and a 3000w can motor for the rear ! waiting on the dream bikes axle to get here for the diff in the rear. its a 72v sys... crazy fast !
how has it worked for you? I want to put a front motor with less watts than the rear, but I would like to know if it is good or better to place both with the same watts
what are you thoughts on why the bigger motor at the rear instead of the front?
Hi,
I have a few questions for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!!!!
Do you think this suspension fork can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor ?
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
Viva 500 watt just got my first one today was thinking about putting a 1500 watt conversion for the front but since I'm fresh into the hobby I'm looking around for advice and compatibility I don't wanna burn one out
How about modding your Fiido t1 to take dual motors? I would love to see you tackle that project.
I bought a kristall RX20 last week, which is basically an identical version of the crookedpath just rebranded.
I have a BUNCH of mods on the way, one of which being upgrading the rotors to 220mm as the brakes aren't so good.
The other major upgrade will be the shitty front suspension, that seriously needs improving!
Mine is still stock 48v, I'm considering a 60v system upgrade with a 1500w motor, that might be a little bit further down the road... when budget permits.
I like it!
I'm still waiting on that triple motor setup! 😁
I have a three motor Ariel Rider D it has a 52 volt BBHD running 52 volts off road programed and the two original 48 volt hub motor system two throttles it is very powerful puller and a little faster but not fast as my Ariel Rider X with two hub motors combined pushing 3000 watts with the right controller volt and amps you can build a bike that will leave most class 2 e bikes behind you.
I think dual motors are useful if you weigh alot or for offroading/climbing. I just ordered my battery for my system which is a 48v 1500w cheap kit with a cheap battery thats 48v 20ah 35amp bms but i weigh 230lbs so I hope this will be enough torque and speed for what i want for just street use. I have a Ghost rider stretched bike and the motor is on the front with 2 cheap torque arms but i wanna upgrade those. If i wanna upgrade I might add on a new controller and battery to upgrade the volts.(accounting for overheating) or i would add a rear motor kit on which either idea will cost me the same. (with an added rear kit i wouldnt gain much top speed but alot of torque,so thats my question,do i go for more top speed or torque)
By adding add to the front dd would add drag through cogging when not in use as apposed to planetary freewheel in the front
You should check out the arrow e bike from nyc. Has a massive battery 48v 28ah reminds me of your old build mountain bike
I think you should do it
Do it! 😄
I have the ocelot pro from magicycle and i got it in november more then 100 days ago 😂 but it is a beast on average it goes 28mph but the highests its gone is 31,
Will the frenken runner controller fit in the default spot? I would really like to swap out my original one. Why not get a rear rack batter kit?
As for the additional hub I say do it!
A lot of service workers are getting e bikes as they don’t require licensing or registration
Hey there, I have a FreeGo EV DK200 with a 1200W bafang rear hub. Can I get more out of it by upgrading the controller? Any recommendations?
Actually planning on modding my Sondors Fold XS by adding a front hub..
= 2xHub ( 🔋 Secured on Rack )
I want to upgrade the gears +⚙️ Brakes and Pedals... maybe even the shifter....
BmX Type Bars... ...
I'm running the same crooked path I've had it about 6 months I like it but need more power are you running duel batteries ido like the external battery tell me more
I've been studying the dual made DIY builds on TH-cam for months of the pros and cons for many builds merely an overkill of putting motors together. It is the weight added on from motor, battery and misc parts which places a lag of the progress of being practical. I.E. when using 1 of 2 motors the extra weight decreased by 20 % of the power while pushing the wattage outage by same%. If bike is heavy going uphill needs to be used at same time due to using 1 which speed will decrease dramactly due to total weight. Aero Grizzly Duals ((pro build) shows this but those bikes strictly for dirt off roading trailing.
I put this in thought as I made my DIY to be used as a real practical way of use of commuting over hill jumping or trailing. The weight I put in check by only using 1 Gear motor which is the best way to commute long distance without stopping to let motor cool down( gearless DD can only go few miles full throttle before it signals or cut off to cool down a bit) My 2nd motor is the DD 2000watt Gearless DD only used as accelerated off my gear motor. Once I get into cruise control on t he e gear, I turn on my 2nd motor as a Turbo Boost where I can ride over 12 Miles or more going 40mph, while maintaining energy output as only 1 motor using more power in the Gearless DD which with the weight of the gear motor and frame adds up to only 79.lbs. I only weigh a buck thirdy so making the Dual this way using a low wattage gear motor as the base as the Gearless is Turbo Boost. Range is 80miles, top speed is 44, mph as I go up steep hill at 36mph.
I don't need to use both motors to go up hill. Both gets me there, it's jus when I use both I fly up the steep hills.
@@user619tlsdca5 I'm going to buy a Himiway Escape and i'm wondering if I bought the exact 750 watt motor thats on it and put it on the front for dual motors would that work?
Hi,
I have a few questions for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!!!!
Do you think this suspension fork can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor ?
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
How do you like that Helmet ? I own the same one but I had to modify the mouth vent a tad go help with fogging
I got the Eahora Romeo 60 ah stock battery goes 29-32 flat ground all throttle can get more pedaling
The mod is complex, but a more simple way is to buy ready made dual drive. I'd just change the rear motor for a more powerful one.
If you succeed the mod, it can be great since the direct drive will take you to higher speeds than a geared hub, also can run a more efficient regen
I have a swft zip and I've had it for 5 months. I have been thinking of adding a front motor. What did you use for yours?
I constructed dual 2500 watt controller with dual hub motors 3000 rear 350 front, he geared front freewheeels when the 3k overwelms it. I have a 20s14p battery I made, with sper capacitors in between it and the controollers. Wiring the bike was a lesson in frustration, after a while there was so many wires i lost track of what they were for and where they were supposed to go. Initially i tried color coding them but gave that up after a while. The bike was originally a cheap ass fat tire go trax folding webike, but it is no longer reognizable as such. I call it the Canadian phoenix, due to the decals it has, the front suspension is a scwinn reproduction that i modified to fit it, and i made my own handlebars. The bike is a MONSTER. It scares me to ride it. I want to build a recumbrant trike electric for my next project.
Hi,
I have a few questions for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!!!!
Do you think this suspension fork can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor ?
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
Aventon pace next-gen & I have had it for a little bit more than a month
Do it. Brake regen and better performance will make it worth while. It could be more efficient, if that matters.
I have a bike with an ebike kit on it, and it hits 30mph pretty easily. Right now, I'm working on converting a 78 motorcycle. I'm still debating on running dual hubs or not
Hi I would like to turn my go speed by go power for a back too a two wheel hud
You're going to need a front suspension with square shaped mounting holes to fit the hub axle right?
I have an Lectric trike that only does 11.5 mph. I would like to go a little faster, like 20+ mph but I can't find a way to do it in the settings. I thought of adding a second front hub motor that would allow me to achieve the extra speed. Searching on how I could do it but, no luck finding a video showing how to do it. Any suggestions?
I’ve got 2
A 72v DIY dual system scrambler style bike I’ve posted on my channel
And a Crew Dart BMX style
Had them almost 5 months and approaching 1000 miles total
Hi,
I have a few questions for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!!!!
Do you think this suspension fork can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor ?
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
@@Mr23GB all tough questions I don’t have good answers for
I’ve got a cheap amazon shock with 1500 on my front that I had to file to accept the wheel.
A couple years of riding with no issues
The bike does mid 40s with most its mileage in the 30mph ballpark and light off-roading when possible.
So that being said, most will probably “handle” the motor, but probably very few that are truly rated for what you’re doing.
You pretty much have to spend a bunch to find one that’s really made for it, I didn’t want to double my build price. So I went with a Nimalo brand with torque bar on both sides and try to check regularly.
Can’t recommend what I’ve done, but it’s held up for a couple years and going out when the sun is up in a bit
Good luck
Oh, I’ve heard of people using motorcycle forks. Have no idea what kind of modifications if any have to be done. Could be an affordable option depending on what you’re building
@nplVentures - I have an UBCO electric bike. It is a dual motor set up. I would love to upgrade my motor, etc... to get more speed. Any thoughts?
Sabaton 200 amp with QS205 Running 72v 42.5 amp hr bluetooth BMS on a Vector Typhoon Frame, Riding for 2almost 2 years now WHEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
i have a G62 on my BBSHD bike. Dual motors (+ battery) adds a lot of weight, becomes less of a bike, hard to put it in a bike stand, hard to get the wheel off, every time I flip it upside down on handlebars jacks im scared they are gonna break Lol. Too lazy to take the batteries off every time I want to do maintenance tho. My main gripe with the hub hub motor and additional torque arm etc is you need a handful of tools and different sockets to get the wheel off. Whereas normal bike wheel is 2 nuts (or QR) and no big deal to work on. I don't know about a hub motor on the front wheel, thats a lot of additional weight to be throwing around, i Like my front wheel nimble. I would put a BBSHD on the bike with a smaller chainring so you can pop off from a stop faster than cars. Grin has a motor simulator where you can plug in your bike parameters, BBSHD motor, set the chainring to different sizes to see what speeds the gears will spin out and how fast it should go at a given power level etc. I think if i did it all again it would be on a really lightweight bike with a high voltage BBSHD. I have a lot of fun on my bike but its so heavy and lost a lot of the "bike" qualities that I do miss dearly
I'd love to have 2 motors. I have an Ecotric 20" fat folder 48 volt
Is it as stable as a rear hub ebike? After reading before making a final decision, I'm still not sure if it's safe (in turns and accelerating during turns I guess). What is your opinion?
I thought I would give an answer to this question if you were still wondering now. I have two ebikes with dual motors and dual batteries and it takes a bit to get use to the torque of the front wheel spinning the tire because there is now weight on the front wheel. Once you get use to that it is like having a turbo.. so nice to power up hills with no need to pedal etc
Hi,
I have a few questions for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!!!!
Do you think this suspension fork can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor ?
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
I've got a dual motor ebike that I built myself the best motor to put on the front wheel is the geared hub motor not the direct drive all the best in building your beast can't wait to see it it'll be like the Ariel Rider.
if I was going to put different motor sizes on the front and rear, which would you think would be to put the bigger motor and why?
@@Goodforyouliving
U put the bigger more powerful motor on the rear wheel and the less powerful motor on the front because u will eat up the front tyre front wheel spinning when u pull off
Hi,
I have a few questions for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!!!!
Do you think this suspension fork can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor ?
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
I gots me the FreeGo EV DK200. I got it in April of this year. 2022.
My apollo ghost has 2 1000w motors in it, theres a switch to run 1 motor or both and i can tell you this dual motors makes a huge difference, the pickup is much faster and hills are nothing to a dual motor scooter. Seems to me that 2 motors on an ebike would work just as well as it does on a scooter so idk why ebikes don't just come with 2 motors.
I have 3 motor. I use 3 throttle. It's fun you can choose which one you want to run.
you are a wild man
Hi,
I have a question for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front hydraulic suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Front Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
Hi,
I have a question for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front hydraulic suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Front Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
Hi,
I have a question for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front hydraulic suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Front Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
with 2 motors u can cross streets faster... acceleration is awsome
0 to 50klm/h in 5 seconds. 210lbs of foot torque. That 285Nm of torque. I have 3 motor.
@@electricbikeretrovintage Hi,
I have a few questions for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front hydraulic suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Front Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
I think for your build, while tempting, doesn't need the second motor. Especially since it's a foldable bike, adding more weight to a light weight build seems counter intuitive. As for the ebikes for me it went from not seeing any to seeing about 3-5, so a pretty huge increase.
I have a Super73 Z1 got a couple months back so I can relearn how to ride a bike lol, just savin up till i got enough to get an Onyx though.
Hi NP, big fan of your channel...I've just completed the build, its a Tern 507 Eclipse P9 with EcoCycle Tongsheng mid drive, 1x10 Shimano Zee group set and a few other bits and bobs. I'm already considering swapping in a CYC Stealth motor for a bit more juicy...I've only owner this for 3 months SMH. I think I suffer from the same disease as you haha!
Oh just my 2cents...if you can get 2k watts out of one motor, why add weight and complexity so you can have 2 x 1000 watt motor.
Look into a Bafang M620 mid-drive - it's their most powerful motor and the Tern P9 frame will accept this motor. That will be a lot easier to install than the CYC stealth.
@@hillyseattlenarrowstreets6087 if had a welder and some tools Id consider it. Bafang seems to be the most reliable for the bunch.
@@DocTaRED I did a Zizzo folder w/ BBS02 mid-drive and it's a fast wheelie machine if you're not careful - 20" wheels, short wheelbase and high motor torque will do it. Lean over handlebar at Start-up to keep wheels down. Got up to 28 mph on flat. Luna bikes had a folding bike with this configuration, "A Frigging Shredder" You tube channel had this bike in his top 5.
However Cadence sensor made low speed maneuvers a little twitchy, power would go on a little too fast when crankset activates Cadence sensor, newbies would crash. Bought a Tongsheng Tsdz2 with torque sensor, handles much better for newbie riders. However you lose "easy pedaling" at top speeds due to no Cadence Sensor. You have to push pedals hard to get speed with torque sensing.
I thought the Tern P9 uses the mid-drive frame that accepts high end motors - ie it doesn't install thru bottom bracket crankset like a BBS02.
@@hillyseattlenarrowstreets6087 That's awesome Hilly, thanks for sharing. I could imagine that combo being a wheelie machine and of course loads of fun...but not so user friendly haha. I have seen that vid before and follow his channel, great stuff!
I initially was going to use a 20inch folding frame (Giant Expressway) but I already have a middrive 20inch bike (Ananda M80 motor), plus I also have 2 other Bafang bikes. I thought it was time to try something different, and so I was lucky enough to find a 24 inch Tern Eclipse P9. The P9 acronym is just the model type and number of gears. It's just a thru bottom bracket install. I do really like the frame and build quality.
Well described comparison between the 2...you hit on the head with losing that easy pedaling at the top end. Thankfully I did get a throttle with it but ultimately this is the pain point in the build.
Hi,
I have a few questions for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!!!!
Do you think this suspension fork can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor ?
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
What program is that used to modify the controller?
Bro... Remember your insurance bill was 650. ... It is 100% worth it ...you better get the dual ;))
Same.. I've bought/built, upgraded and sold 12 ebikes. Building a clone super73 now. Seen a super73 frame around $500 on aliexpress and couldn't help myself
Edit. Currently riding a upgraded dolomite alx, dual hub motors and controllers 2000w each. 72v 20ah 60a battery
Hi,
I have a few questions for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Front Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
A few years ago I took the leap & purchase an ex uber delivery ebike. I got a dual battery fat tyre e-bike.
Now I am really ready to convert it to dual drive ✌️
I've added a front geared hub motor on my juiced scrambler (changed out the forks to be steel ones, heard alot of aluminum ones have issues with snapping under load). While it was a fun project, but even with the impressive torque and ridiculous hill climbing ability, I don't think it's worth the money. I think the most cost effective way of getting a more powerful bike is to strip the parts to either sell or make a new bike out of, then use the extra money to go all in on a higher watt rear hub or middrive motor + controller setup. Not gonna lie, it would be interesting to see you give it a go tho.
CalJacques what brand motor did you use? I want to add a front hub motor to my scrambler also
Hi,
I have a few questions for you and I'd be very grateful if you would please answer them for me !
I need to purchase a 20in Front hydraulic suspension Fork that can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor !!!!!!!!!!
Do you think this suspension fork can handle a 2000 watt Hub motor ?
Do you have or can you suggest any 20 inch front suspension forks that can handle a 2000 W Hub motor ?????
Thank You Very Much
Just do it
360 cam yes please
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Sure, you can run both motors using one throttle, but why would you want to? A throttle for each wheel gives much better control of the bike. The front having less weight on it will have a tendency to spinout, especially on takeoff. You can avoid this by using separate throttles.
why not just add a 5k watt hub motor instead of the extra weight of motor and battery plus controller?
I would love to add a front hub motor to my Troxus. Would a rear hub motor be the same to add / use on the front? ''Bafang''
I would like to do this to the g force zm anyone have the g force zm e bike and have done this sort of modification if so please let me know if it's considered possible or not and if you have done such a thing
Ecotric mountian, beach, snow electic bike with a 500w motor
How many miles and how fast?
And just on a side note, being the best person you can be has absolutely nothing to do with things you own which can only be (temporarily)...
what kind of helmet you have? look avenger
What helmet is that?
I got a crazy question. Would it be possible to use both a mid drive and rear hub drive and have them work together to some extent? I imagine you would have to have the electronics that allowed this and of course the battery power. Not a cheap proposition. I have been getting increasingly into this and i think I will go all in. I can see definite advantages to having both. Is anyone doing this sort of thing? Any links?
If there is anything tag me in it I think it's a great idea I was thinking doing that. See if I could use them Or a switch where I can kill off the ehubs and kick the mid drive n use it back and forth for range ánd performance I want to try to see this could happen because the batteries all together can still weigh heavy but still move no problem it's ppl 230 Lbs and these bikes have torque
i’m also thinking of doing that. frankly, i can’t see why it wouldnt work
i find cars are much less annoyed by Ebikes even though theyre not legal in many countries , Ebikes keep up with traffic flow and pull off the lights faster
My bike is 48 v 26in tires 1200w just like yours 32 mi an hour over 35 miles range depending on what speed but I want to double My hub on the front I go 32 miles an hour on one hub but I want 45 miles an hour
i got the same type of bike i built in 2019, same generic 1000w rear hub on the CHEAPEST bike i found thatll fit it ,does not support disc brakes only rim brakes and i had to replace a wheel already cuz the brakes worn the rim down and split :), stopping distance on it is about 50 metres , very unsafe
We’re are you from lol and if I even need help with questions about ebike build could I get your feedback ?
Heck yes do a dual motor build! That sounds so much like what i was trying to achieve with one mid drive setup. Only hitch in my giddy-up has been i want a 20" fat tire bike built like a moped. No pedals, only footpegs. With two motors i could achieve this top speed I need of 45-50mph. I could go in depth of what I'm needing but nah. Kind of surprised they don't have these on market already. Do you know of a controller that could handle 1000watts x 2 and yet still being rather simple enough for this beginner (noob) to work with??
2nd - if you don't make the movie your talking about, 360° and mellow music, you'll never see your dream come to fruition. You also would never know if it's a success or not. Always, always, always, work on your dreams! I mean really do you think this bike I'm discussing here is a flight of fancy? Best wishes!