Totally agree. This configuration of the track would have been perfectly safe had they simply modified the surroundings to allow huge, FIA-friendly run off areas. Alain Prost even said so. Many thanks to LeighF1 for posting this brilliant footage :)
totally agree!! today we have Spa, Monza, Montecarlo, .. but I miss Clermont Ferrand, Brands Hatch, the old Ring, the old Hockenheim, Watkins Glenn, the old Imola... And miss Keke, Schummi, Gilles, Piquet, Clark, Nigel, and... Mika!!
I remember this race well. It was the one in which Nelson Piquet's Brabham finally made it to its scheduled pit stop, but the engine failed immediately after. Many years later I had the privilege of sitting in Elio's winning Lotus while on a visit to the Classic Team Lotus garage.
That happened with both Piquet and Patrese’s cars - the BMW engines were notoriously unreliable that season. For some reason they got that problem sorted in 1983, but the same problems occurred 1984-87. I’d be interested to find out why that was.
Nope, this is a recording from Channel 9 Australia. Hence you will notice if you watch the entire clip, a very short ad break in between the coverage. Channel 9 did use the BBC feed though and hence the presence of Murray Walker and James Hunt with the slight overdub by Allen Jones
I agree a superb circuit. A sad day when it was bulldozed and turned into the A1 Ring!! Ahh the days of great circuits and proper racing and overtaking in F1!!!!
some months ago i was walking around the hella licht chicane with my wife and it felt just awesome to be there. (it's just a five minutes drive from my parents place to the A1/red bull/österreichring)
I remember Murray Walker used to apolgise for being Patriotic to the viewers in Australia et al former Colonies but i was too young to appreciate what he was talking about! Could anyone tell me which countries got Murray and James for their commentary back in the days before multi-channel digital TV! I guess it was not so easy back then for every country to have their own commentary?
@motorsportnutter4eva That´s the problem, they would go 50 kmh faster through te bosch kurve, making it harder to go side by side unless you make the track wider...
Ah, at least there were then slick monsters, ground effects and cute cars without 89765456 wings, so we could get real overpasses at track, just as Tambay to Lauda (2:45), instead those silly and boring strategy passes. Ideal F1: 1982 design, 2006 security.
@@mateagoston7113 So they don't need half a mile of run-off area at every fast corner. They wouldn't look slow if they had much less downforce and had to actually drive around the corners. Entertainment and overtaking would rise significantly.
no hairpins no slow bends a real track so slipstreaming can be done leading to overtaking wish we had circuits like this today even ruined silverstone now
If only this track was used for F1 nowadays, a real drivers circuit. Can you imagine how fast that Bosch-kurve would be to a modern F1 car, sadly Hermann Tilke botches up every decent circuit he breathes on, today's drivers are missing out on some real classic circuits.
Aside from the sad sad tragedies of Gilles and Paletti (and the awful accident of Pironi) that was the most (by far) competitive year I've ever seen on F1. You literally couldn't tell who's going to win until the very end, as this video proves. And almost everyone seemed to have a chance on winning - you knew almost nothing before the actual race. Today's F1 is so boring compared to that time
I agree, a fantastic track, but defenitely not useable for today's grand prix cars. look at the non-existant run-off-areas. I hope the rebuilt Red-Bull-Ring will be better than the A1-Ring.
Keke Rosberg was an absolute demon driver. Blisteringly fast.
Totally agree. This configuration of the track would have been perfectly safe had they simply modified the surroundings to allow huge, FIA-friendly run off areas. Alain Prost even said so.
Many thanks to LeighF1 for posting this brilliant footage :)
Magnificent stuff! F1 exactly how it should be - great racing on a superb track.
Great stuff. Not only the action on the track, but James Hunt too...I still miss his commentary...sad early loss.
totally agree!! today we have Spa, Monza, Montecarlo, .. but I miss Clermont Ferrand, Brands Hatch, the old Ring, the old Hockenheim, Watkins Glenn, the old Imola...
And miss Keke, Schummi, Gilles, Piquet, Clark, Nigel, and... Mika!!
I remember this race well. It was the one in which Nelson Piquet's Brabham finally made it to its scheduled pit stop, but the engine failed immediately after. Many years later I had the privilege of sitting in Elio's winning Lotus while on a visit to the Classic Team Lotus garage.
Yep Murray stole the idea for refueling from the American CART series wheere these refuelings was ordinary from the 70s.
That happened with both Piquet and Patrese’s cars - the BMW engines were notoriously unreliable that season. For some reason they got that problem sorted in 1983, but the same problems occurred 1984-87. I’d be interested to find out why that was.
Nope, this is a recording from Channel 9 Australia. Hence you will notice if you watch the entire clip, a very short ad break in between the coverage. Channel 9 did use the BBC feed though and hence the presence of Murray Walker and James Hunt with the slight overdub by Allen Jones
A fantastic drive by a fantastic driver. Rest in peace, Elio
These two drivers really respected each other - they got on very well
I agree a superb circuit. A sad day when it was bulldozed and turned into the A1 Ring!! Ahh the days of great circuits and proper racing and overtaking in F1!!!!
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Indeed, back then you'd never knew who would be the winner until the very end
FANTASTIC! ELIO DE ANGELIS SHOW! !!MAGNIFIC! !!★★★★★
Nico's got a lot to live up to. His old man was a great driver!
Really a superb track!
Thanks for sharing
I love this video. No need to say more.
Still miss you Elio.
Ciao Elio...25 years since you're gone today
Real racing and a real circuit, not the rubbish designed by Herman the German these days. Thanks for posting
some months ago i was walking around the hella licht chicane with my wife and it felt just awesome to be there. (it's just a five minutes drive from my parents place to the A1/red bull/österreichring)
Elio de Angelis, un piloto brillante...!!!
Happy Birthday Keke!
Fantastic track elevation. Take note Mr Tilke, you git!
colin chapmans last win
Great battle between two drivers both hungry for their first Grand Prix victory.
Keke had already won a race. Second last race of the season in his championship winning year - although he only won one race in the season
Amen to that.
I remember Murray Walker used to apolgise for being Patriotic to the viewers in Australia et al former Colonies but i was too young to appreciate what he was talking about! Could anyone tell me which countries got Murray and James for their commentary back in the days before multi-channel digital TV! I guess it was not so easy back then for every country to have their own commentary?
R.I.P. Elio...
top footage!
Elio was The Stig.. Just look at the helmet.
ELIO, GENIAL, EMOCIONANTE SIMPLESMENTE DIVINO!
@motorsportnutter4eva
That´s the problem, they would go 50 kmh faster through te bosch kurve, making it harder to go side by side unless you make the track wider...
Ah, at least there were then slick monsters, ground effects and cute cars without 89765456 wings, so we could get real overpasses at track, just as Tambay to Lauda (2:45), instead those silly and boring strategy passes.
Ideal F1: 1982 design, 2006 security.
Well all I can say is thank God for commercialization then!
Yes it is
I love that old circuit. Why do they always change the circuits and not the cars to make them slower...cry
Why do you want to make the cars slower?
@@mateagoston7113 So they don't need half a mile of run-off area at every fast corner. They wouldn't look slow if they had much less downforce and had to actually drive around the corners. Entertainment and overtaking would rise significantly.
Damn, it was close :/
no hairpins no slow bends a real track so slipstreaming can be done leading to overtaking wish we had circuits like this today even ruined silverstone now
If only this track was used for F1 nowadays, a real drivers circuit. Can you imagine how fast that Bosch-kurve would be to a modern F1 car, sadly Hermann Tilke botches up every decent circuit he breathes on, today's drivers are missing out on some real classic circuits.
This is Australian TV? I thought it's the BBC...
imagine, if Rosberg won, he wouln't b as famous (winning the Championship only winning 1 race)
No, it is österreichring. Check wikipedia.
1:46 would NEVER happen in the 2000's :'D
Whoa! Do you have links for that? I'd love to see it.
Aside from the sad sad tragedies of Gilles and Paletti (and the awful accident of Pironi) that was the most (by far) competitive year I've ever seen on F1. You literally couldn't tell who's going to win until the very end, as this video proves. And almost everyone seemed to have a chance on winning - you knew almost nothing before the actual race. Today's F1 is so boring compared to that time
how could this lotus get infront?? love lotus but they where not really the best team to that point...
They were decent on their day. Williams certainly wasn;t the quickest car on most tracks either - although it was good on twisty circuits
37 years later Renault is still blowing up engines left right and center!
the most succesufull engine maker after Ford in the World
le wing cars in questi curvoni fanno venire i brividi. sembra che siano su dei binari, se superi i limiti del grip sbamm vai a muro
I agree, a fantastic track, but defenitely not useable for today's grand prix cars. look at the non-existant run-off-areas. I hope the rebuilt Red-Bull-Ring will be better than the A1-Ring.
Today's tracks are an absolute disgrace. Want to know why the racing is boring? Look no further than what they are racing on!
Tilke = Shit...
Nice Video, btw....