GOTHAM HAD THE BEST VILLAINS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Gotham is a pretty divisive series with an extended fanbase.
The show which acts as an origin story or sorts for Batman and his rogues gallery had some really incredible interpretations of The Dark Knight 's villains.
The Joker
Harley Quinn
Penguin
They're all there.
Even if some of them aren't supposed to be.
#batman #gotham #joker
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One thing I like about asking the cast members about "Jerome vs. Jeremiah" is that because it's the same actor, they don't have to throw one of them under the bus.
Except David lol
Besides Jim Carrey, I think that Gotham has the best interpretation of the Riddler. I feel like that actor doesn't get enough love
I felt like ed was the riddler in ways Carrey wasn't allowed to be. Jim could have portrayed the human but wasn't allowed by the director and time constraints.
I actually love this Riddler most. Sadly I can't remember his name.
Paul Dano's Riddler was what disappointed me the most about this year's movie. The "real" Riddler would never fully cover his face, and DEFINITELY would never try to come across as physically intimidating. Even worse, I've always taken it for granted that Edward Nygma ENJOYED being the Riddler. Frank Gorshin, who I met shortly before he died, once said that the character was naturally confident and optimistic, and became a criminal simply for the fun of challenging others. But the Riddler I saw in this year's movie was bitter and miserable, and seemed to be taking perverse satisfaction rather than truly having fun.
I hated Jim riddler
That's Joke Right , I mean Love Jim Carry And Great insane Movie but Would Not Call It The best Version Of The Riddler
It was Jim Carry Playing Some Random Guy in A Green Suit Nothing close a Interpretation of The Riddler , But Neither was Two-Face in that
and i still Enjoyed it a Ton
I wish he had more Gotham and they didnt rush the ending, Gotham really had some of the best Batman content hidden behind some goofy sides.
Not only villains, I feel like David Mazouz did such a good job as a young Bruce Wayne, he always seemed like the very awkward but most intelligent boy in the room which I believe is exactly what a young Bruce would be.
I feel the complete opposite. They did rush the last season but I'm happy they ended the show at 5 seasons. I like when shows know they've produced a satisfying product and choose to end it on their own terms rather than bloating it into an over saturated slog.
@@shalindelta7 I do agree on that regard, but I must say... I do want me some new Gotham
@jestervaleska1806 one of the best end credits scores ever. I listened to it every single time and hummed along
right but he started to mature and embrace the playboy persona and gained some street smarts and combat skills while still being that intelligent boy.
And Sean partwee IS Alfred the best version of him and Ben was a great young Jim and Cameren was an amazing young catwoman
David Mazouz is my favorite version of Bruce Wayne. The delivery of his lines and his body language scream BATMAN! The onscreen chemistry between Cameron and David is perfect.
It's just a shame they couldn't be Joker and Batamn respectively.
And 1 dollar
@@dawudhinton5754 🤣🤣🤣
David and Cameron were perfect - I only wish we got more Jerome and Bruce interaction instead of Jeremiah because I feel there was just more to them.
First of all - they had history. Jerome tried to kill Bruce twice and then it feels like a greater set-up when Bruce... Punches his face off (ah context). With their later interactions just being more interesting to me. Like you can tell Bruce sometimes feels genuinely sorry for him, while also being absolutely disgusted and overall "wtf is wrong with you". And Jerome slowly developing obsessive tendencies towards him and shifting from seeing him as his victim, to even questioning if he wants him dead. It's just great relationship development and reminds me of Arkham Origins. I think, in a way, Jerome was the first one to really see Batman in him when he decided not to kill him. He also expresses Bruce was the only person to "help" him which intrigued him in the first place. Jerome presence also literally haunts him after his death - in the same episode where Bruce was hunting his parents' killer which felt super important for some reason?
And secondly - they had a lot of interesting parallels that I'm pretty sure were not purposeful but still happened. I don't remember how many of them I caught at the time of watching but what mainly interested me is this; they both lost their parents to become what they are - the interesting difference being, Bruce lost his loving family to a criminal while Jerome killed his parents himself for all the abuse he went through. They both had been freaky outcasts. The weirdest and smallest thing I've caught was - they both had a weird little diary where they were doodling their own vision of the future. Like, huh.
*tldr* Jerome and Bruce felt more like two sides of the same coin to me - incredibly similar while also being very obvious opposites which was ultimately way more interesting to me.
@@dawudhinton5754 and 1 cent
Shame he looked fuckin horrible in the batsuit
I hope Cameron Monaghan gets cast as the Joker in something else. I think about his performance a lot.
I always wanted him to have his own movie as the joker hell he would be perfect as a canon version of him in the DCEU
Well without Kevin Conroy, Mark Hamill has officially retired from the role and I think it's safe to say it's for good this time. While I'd love to see Cameron in something live action, I'd be all for him taking over for animated and video game appearances. Cal Kestis is physically based on and moccaped by him, so why not let him do the mocap for Mr J too?
@@zeroattentiongaming820 who do you think could take over as Batman ?
Gotham was not canon and yet somehow faithful to canon at the same time. It told the origin story of so many villains in such a good way. I saw them as human beings who could want and hurt and care. And yet also wired to be villains and basically evil.
I treasure the show .
I think that despite being an origin story, Gotham is kind of its own thing. You could see the show at its own universe and its own take on the many characters of Batman's world. I agree tho, it's amazing (and incredibly dumb at the same time).
Scarecrow’s origin was my favorite
Although I wish they could’ve done more with him, from a scared boy to Gotham’s boogeyman, like parents would tell their kids stories about how the Scarecrow would punish bad-behaving children
Penguin's storyline is exactly what I want from movies/shows about villains. We got a character who is every bit as fun and full of depth as any good protagonist. With his own trials and tribulations. His own work and personal life. His own goals and wants. But also just happens to be an evil piece of shit. Why? Because we like the character. Simple as that.
We don't need to to constantly center their story around the morality of their actions. We just need them to be as they've always been, just now we're walking in their shoes.
Sorta reminds me of Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul where Walter White and Jimmy McGill, respectively, are both undeniably evil, twisted people.
And he was gay.
Gotham started going way overboard with the villains in later seasons and they should've just kept Jerome as the joker instead of the dumb twin storyline
Fax homie
I liked the twin storyline at first; I just wish Jerome had’ve killed Jeremiah and continued being the Joker character of that world. He worked so much better as that character
@@helzbelle13 I never did
They should have stick with regular criminals instead of Batman's villains because most should not exist yet.
The biggest flaw in this show for me was the character of Barbara Kean. The actress was great, but the writers clearly didn't know what to do with her
Him being illegally the joker even more fits the character 😂😂😂
I watched from the start and when I saw the promo I said “really? A ginger joker? He looks like chucky😂” I was so glad to be wrong he was absolutely awesome as the joker
Joker is naturally a red head since his creation
That Chucky part killed me HAHAHA
We Gingers are the craziest. How can you NOT think the craziest psycho in fictional serial killer history isn’t going to be a redhead?
Honestly, Cameron Monaghan could cosplay as Chucky.
@@margarethmichelina5146 yep that's true
The Mad Hatter was pretty cool too
Yes one of the best
Yeah the actor did a great interpretation.
Shame we haven't gotten any more Mad Hatter live action roles.
@bruhmanofyear2 I hope he's the villain in the Reeves' Batman sequel
Agreed
That guy was crayyyzeeee
Glad this show gets some appreciation, it is way too underrated. There has been put too much heart and care into it to not acknowledge.
This Penguin was definitely someone you really root for, no matter what they do.
is it underrated? it was pretty popular during 1-4 seasons, and even tho 5 season had the lowest rating out of them every episode still trended
It is funny how Cameron went from Joker to Jedi
The opposite of Hamil
Seeing as if I'm not mistaken Fallen Order takes place the same year Luke and Leia are born, I'd love to see a scene with Luke and Cal down the road, where perhaps they even share a laugh?
Also funny how mark Hamill went from Jedi to joker
@@tokyodeathghoul2313 Funny because I saw a clip of a Scooby Doo animated movie clip where Mark Hamill - yes animated Mark Hamill - does the Joker laugh.
i was WONDERING why he was so familiar.
cal frikin kestis.
two star wars actors. two joker actors.
And Taylor did so good as tge penguin I wouldn't mind if he played him again in some capacity
Astonishing, really. Truly only topped by Danny Devito's portrayal of the Penguin.
That's DCs gay verse
What I love about Cameron Monaghan's portrayal is that he's not just ONE version of Joker, he's all of them. At various points you can see him portray Romero, Hamill, Ledger, Nicholson, and stuff from the comics. Someday I hope they'll officially give him the role on the big screen.
Also, I know it's a take people don't like, but I enjoyed his portrayal of Jeremiah just as much as Jerome. Jeremiah is the version of Joker from the comics who's very cold and calculating, the madness boiling just under the surface. It was a really interesting direction while keeping true to the character.
So in DC canon, there is more than 1 joker. Jerome was true to the most popular version of joker from the comics and I feel Jeremiah was a more original take on the joker. One I personally enjoyed, I love the calm and controlled chaos of Jeremiah
So glad it wasn't just me. I loved the monotone and stern stare.
Best interpretation of Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler and Bruce Wayne
And Zsasz
Gotham was bonkers, off-the-walls, utter madness.
My wife and I loved it.
I think that the new penguin costume in the finale would have worked really well if not for the fat suit, it just looked like he had a pillow in his shirt and it really ruined it
I miss Gotham 😢 such a great show with amazing actors!
I'm would swear that Monaghan watched BTAS and listened to Ledger in preparation for this show because those are respectively the visual and vocal performances that I'm reminded of most. If he didn't, he sincerely knocked it out the park
he doesn't sound like ledger..
imo,
thats why iHATED him! we've seen this version before. done better. By superior actors. Who've won awards.
PLAYING THE JOKER.
I'll spare the pun about their level of commitment to character compare to his....
like he never posed any real threat on his own AT ALL.
So, they had to give him a long lost twin.
@@LarrySwishamane well, I guess it's safe to say that his portrayal wasn't for everyone. I respect your opinion
@@yirl8732 when he was Jerome, he did to me. I wasn't crazy about Jeremiah
Gotham is actually a really great show! Seasons 1-4 were all so good! Season 5 was a bit rushed, but on the whole a great conclusion. It’s fantastic and deserves another look!
Facts one of my favorite shows ever
it was VERY rushed because they cancelled it early and had to cram everything
If the show hadn't been cancelled season 5 would've been amazing, I'm sure of it
I honestly think the best version of joker would be a mix of Jerome and Jeremiah. Crazy but also cold and calculating when needed to be
I think that is what we got towards the end. I did Love the cold calculated introduction. The long live me scene and then Infront of GCPD was amazing to me and was sorry to see it go.
jerome already was cold and calculated from time to time tho, especially while in arkham in season 4. this kind of thing gets boring fast, which is why we need jerome's humor
Gotham reminds me of Smallville. Both are kind of a hot mess in parts -- Gotham less so -- but the characterization is so freaking good.
My 2 favorite shows
Both amazing shows that I always rewatch once a year
@@leenaleewitch3731 we'd be great friends man
@@leenaleewitch3731 Same for me 💯
Making Mad Hatter a hypnotist is such a fucking stroke of genius.
I think David Mazouz would play a amazing Robin, he would fit in well in partnership with Robert Pattinson
agreed
Mazous is too old to work with Robert, and Robert is to Young
However, if Ben Affleck was around, Mazouz would be a great nighting
Rather have Scott Adkins. over both
Imagine Karate Kid with Bruce Wayne in the Miyagi role and Dick Grayson in the role of Daniel Larusso
Mazouz as Robin and Pattinson as Nightwing would be great.
Still waiting for Cameron to play a live action Joker
You mean officially?
I'd rather see him as Cal Kestis in the Jedi Fallen Order live action
Plix
I dont think Jeremiah is a BAD performance, i think that its like you said - a different comics Joker, the silent, sane and calm Joker. I really like both performances but like most people i believe the Joker should be like Jerome but saying that Jeremiah isnt the Joker is wrong since he is a take on it that was present before the show. I think its still a GREAT performance just wasnt the one you wanted. Its like taking a very bad storyline from the comics and doing it PERFECTLY, you wont like it but its still a good performance.
"sane" are you sure about that because the show explicitly tells the opposite about him
@@neo4r4 maybe it wasnt the best word to use lol
Jeremiah is more like TAS Joker to me, the pure top of hipocresy and a very high superiority complex that protect his fragil ego.
Please! Make a video on the Riddler! He was one of the best performances in the show imo!
Facts bro
I love that nerdy little freak
And he was bi.
@@HoneyPiss Who gives a fuck?
Hallelujah!
SEE THIS GUY GETS IT!
PERFECT PERFORMANCE.
Him & Sean Pertwee's Alfred, off the top of my head, only actor's felt genuine portraits thru-out the series.
Lets be honest....there was ALOT TERRIBLE ACTING/OVERACTING since its initial debut. Like if iWasnt heavily invested into Nygma, Alfred, Falcone & Maroni, especially the blood curdler scream by David...
i'd beg jim to put a bullet in my head too.
but, yeah, CMS Riddler = FLAWLESS!!!
Jerome isnt just up there, the Gotham Joker is the best interpretation of the joker in any show imo
I think Jeremiah was more akin to joker from the white knight run or even dark knight returns. Much more calm and calculated
Most underrated show in the galaxy!!!
Completely agree. I loved this show and every iteration of their villains were fun to watch.
Underappreciated for sure but it definitely has a good chunk of fans which makes me very happy
I agree and I love this show. It's my fav dc show
Can I just say how much I fucking love John Doman as Carmine Falcone? Such an amazing actor.
When I saw Cameron Monahan(probably spelled his name wrong) show that first smile and laugh, I knew that would be the Joker.
I always preferred jeremiah. I liked the seething evil over the scenery chewing jerome
As far as Brent Spiner's Joker goes, he was really great in the Audio Adventures. It was so subdued and fantastic
What did you think of Alyssa Milano's Poison Ivy on the same show? I didn't care for it. She didn't sound like Ivy. She sounded like Milano quoting Ivy in a court transcript during Ivy's sentencing.
@@SeasideDetective2 I havent gotten to Ivey yet actually. I'm keen to find out though!
@@fireflow726 What's ironic about the casting is that Milano is clearly not the counterpart to Poison Ivy, but to Harley Quinn. More than that - she IS Harley Quinn! She was even born in the Bensonhurst neighborhood of Brooklyn, which is also Harley's birthplace according to the recent animated series. What more proof does anyone need?
That's why, in my imagination, a teenage/twentysomething Alyssa Milano was Harley Quinn in BATMAN: UNCHAINED (the fifth Burton/Schumacher film that was right on the cusp of going into production but never got made). In fact, a part of me hopes that film STILL gets made, this time with a 50-year-old Harley opposing Michael Keaton's 70-year-old Batman.
I subscribed simply because you told the truth that I've known for years that a lot of people tried to deny, that Cameron Monaghan was the best Joker we have ever seen. Jerome and Jeremiah were the absolute best part of the show
They don’t even come close to Heath. Not even close ahaha.
@@Justin-Rocco heath is a horrible joker, should've been anarky
I like how someone FINALLY put the ventriloquist in a live action batman adaptation.
@bruhmanofyear2 live action I meant bro
@bruhmanofyear2 calm down I wrote it wrong without thinking I changed it
@bruhmanofyear2 u like ventriloquist?
@bruhmanofyear2 nice
@bruhmanofyear2 you like rap?
Gotham definitely has some of the best portrails of batman's villains and villains in general some were just so perfect the show is amazing all around forever will be one of my favorites
I don't think "at least they took a previously nothing character and made that character into something" being a good thing is very situational. So, here's the thing, Barbara doesn't need any sort of characterization. She was written to be Jim's wife, and that's all that she should be. No need to turn her into a thing. Additionally, I don't understand how Jim's gonna explain the nature of her name to his daughter in this universe. "Yes, Barbara, your mother was an insane fucking person whom I used to love very much. That's why I named you after her." Right.
fr I thought Barbara was gonna die and Jim would name their daughter after her in her honor or something. That would have made more sense to me
Jeremiah, Jerome and J take on the roles of each of the Three Jokers
Jeremiah = Criminal
Jerome = Clown
J = Comedian (But god damn J really needs a redesign )
the "comedian" kinda struggled with comedy tbh
I love how much of a Batman nerd David is, you can really see the passion he has for the character, and it definitely shows in how amazing his performance is as Bruce Wayne.
I just finished Gotham AGAIN only a week ago and I already want to go back for Cameron
I think not enough comic fans have seen this show, it has the best portrayals of a lot of Batman characters especially with Jerome as the Joker
comic fans are pretty stubborn, they will wake up someday
I loved fish Mooney. Favorite part of the series.
Smells like 🐠
The moment I saw Ecco in that red and black sweater skirt number I knew she would be the next Harley after Babs
I love spreading the under appreciation Gotham got. Did the final season get rushed and fall flat? Yes. Did they have a joker problem? Yes. Do i still love the show? Yes. The good outweighs the bad
I love Gotham, it's such a fun and bonkers show who's not afraid of being ridiculous
He is the best live-action joker I absolutely loved Heath ledger but I also grew up reading the comics and watching Batman the animated series and Cameron is by far the closest we've ever had to a correct joker
Funny enough, the best live action joker cant use his name LOL
Tell me you're the Joker without telling me you're the Joker.
Cameron was the best Joker, hands down.
Fax 💯
@@thejenkinsfamily7179
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I was very skeptical going into this show, and I just finished it a few weeks ago. Gotta say, it's got the best versions of most of Batman villains. The Joker from TDK is still the best, but Jerome is not far behind. And permanent cast members Penguin and Riddler were just amazing in this version.
Barbara is underrated
This is about VILLAINS, not just one, which is exactly why they didn’t use him.
The actor who played Mr Freeze was perfect too
@@Chuck_EL Well idk who he was but the arc for Barbara was amazing to me.
Took the bit role of Jim Gordon’s ex-wife-and it was MINOR-and crafted a full character. Kinda weird that she was rehabilitated by the end but still interesting that she made it though the entire show without dying.
@@Chuck_EL I loved his character on the 2-part episode. Too bad he ended up being a jobber
We also can agree Gothom brought us the best scarecrow ever
Gothams joker was like the book the three jokers Jerome was a mix of the Clown and comedian where as Jeremiah was the criminal the mobster more calm cool collected joker. edit: David brought up the 3 jokers apparently but he didn't connect the versions.
The joker is CLEARLY a mix between Jerome and Jeremiah after falling in a bath of sludge
I think there was an ending where Jerome was resurrected with the Lazarus Pit and BOTH were supposed to be up there, after it breaks, one falls off and we don’t know which one it is.
@@JamesCPotter13 If both Jerome and Jeremiah fell into the bath of acid and only one comes out as The Joker, you would just have to see if Joker have his face reattached and has his smile streched to see if he's Jerome, and if he doesn't he's Jeremiah, also Jerome's brain was destroyed so even if Jerome came back to life again he would be braindead
@@justsomeguywholikeshentai1939 why would Jerome be the one with destroyed brain lol, lazarus pit heals you completely
I more like the idea that Cameron actually portrayed The Clown, The Criminal and The Comedian
Jerome is great! And Penguin WOW!!! No tv character has ever made me feel the way he made me feel. Penguin made me constantly laugh. He made me cry. And his relationship with the riddler made me believe in love.
This and smallville were greatly underrated
Smallville was definitely popular when it was on TV and even now it's getting more and more attention which I love that and Gotham are honestly my top 2 favorite shows love both so much
@bruhmanofyear2 to each their own. I respect that
Fr
@@lifeisberserk9566 same
@@lifeisberserk9566 as Superman and Batman are my favorite two dc heros I of course love both shows
Can we please give more credit to Jada Pinkett Smith's Fish Mooney?? The fact that a completely original character created exclusively for the show became one of the best characters was astonishing. I really hate her being killed off so early on. Such a captivating and fascinating villian and didn't even have any source material as a basis. Say what you will about Jada Pinkett Smith, she did an exceptional job bringing the character to life. She's so intimidating, intense, and complex, and everytime she speaks she sends a chill down my spine. "I'm Fish Mooney Bitch!" They just have to adapt her into the comics or other media!
I swear she wasn’t killed early on she was brought back to life and then she was alive for a bit until butch or penguin killed her
She came back like 3 times I believe
@@skillskabamsot3636 yes but only briefly for a few episodes.
No
@@ChaosArchives667yknow what, I respect your honesty lmao.
I genuinely feel some genius felt the need to pitch a show entirely around the incredible origin story for the Penguin, and the casting is the perfect pairing to the writing. Penguin literally made that show, and was the one thing that really hooked me. A perfect example of fleshing out a character more fully
Gotham also had the best version of Alfred Pennyworth.
Definitely my favorite version. I loved his edge and how he definitely was young enough to put his military training to good use.
both him and Michael Cain's version are my favorite
Yes more Gotham videos please!
Two best Jokers, Mark Hamil and Cameron Monaghan. If I was to make a Batman movie or series, I’d cast Cameron as Joker
It's so ironic they both played the best jokers and both played great Jedi knights
The best Jokers are also Jedis.
@@rumblefish9 how true
I was literally only interested in the show because of the villains I just found Bruce Wayne to be boring and annoying but I fell in love with the Riddler and the "Joker/Jeremiah" this show casted amazing people to bring these villains to life
Cameron is by far the best version of the joker
If i remember this show was the only one to use the Grant Morrison villain the Flamingo
Joker is not a sociopath though my guy. He is a psychopath first and foremost
Jerome was clearly the joker and I loved that for once joker was played and killed at first and his second death was pure joker style
The VILLAINS is what kept me watching this show...If I take the time to talk about all the great performances by all the villain actors this would be too long...The portrayals of Penguin and The Riddler are the best to me in my opinion....😎
5:47 I still get goosebumps at this scene. I'll never forget the first time I saw it and how shockingly good this dude was and could be as a potential Joker.
Jeremiah’s makeover feels like it’s trying to be Batman animated series joker but also trying to be Nicholson joker and it doesn’t work but I still like the character
Monaghan is my favorite live action Joker. I even think Jeremiah makes for a menacing Joker as well. I even kinda like finale’s Joker stuff.
Fun fact before being typecast as an iconic villain Mark Hamill actually played the hero in a series of little known scifi movies called Star Wars Original Triilogy Parts 4 to 6
You must be young lol
@@paulglover2778 right lol even my sons who are ages 16 and 18 knew Mark Hamill was Luke Skywalker and the voice of Joker in the original cartoon and the Arkham games since they played all three games
@@Chuck_EL 😂 right! Like pretty common knowledge if you’re a fan. Hamil is awesome though..
@@Chuck_EL lmao I knew that when I was like 11 and I'm 13 right now
Three people in a row not getting dripping sarcasm is actually quite impressive. Internet!
The riddler was great
The movie portrayals by Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix, I do not want to mention Jared Leto, felt more like a broken man, someone that just had one bad day and broke down, while Cameron Monaghan's portrayal feels like a force of nature, pure chaos embodied and that's what makes him so great in my eyes, he's not an intriguing backstory, we're watching his story unfold before our eyes
My favorite villain was Penguin. Sure, it was hard to get used to his height and weight (presumably the disease that deforms him hasn't taken effect yet), but he made the great villain who doesn't seem like much but keeps surviving via unconventional brilliance.
Professor Pyg is in my opinion, the best villain of the show, he’s so wonderful and despite being a schizophrenic surgeon serial killer, he’s fuckin charming as all hell. Him singing during the pie scene is amazing and can’t be beat.
i agree to this. Feel like the Professor Pyg in the show didn't get enough mention.
Exactly bro!! And in my opinion it feels like Hollywood is sceared of making batman villains ever so slightly goofy, but gotham, they make riddler a charismatic guy rather than an emo twitch streamer, gotham made characters like mad hatter feel look a million bucks.
(Edit) I'm not saying Robert's batman movie wasn't good , it was great, and the Riddler they have is good but Gotham's riddler was perfect
Still hard disagree about Penguin not being able to feel love but great reupload nonetheless. :)
oh no not 26:42. In the comics it's implied by that final joke, well, that it was the last laugh. Edit x2 40:00 There ya go.
Edit; Also everyone knows from Batman in the Mobius chair that there are 3 Jokers, canon
I love how you touch on 1960s Batman
Also I would've liked if you touched on more minor villains like Grundy, Riddler, Dent, Freeze, Maroni, Falcone, Clayface, Azrael, Poison Ivy, Zsasz, Mad Hatter, Strange. Maybe a quick cuts for these in a separate video? Just an Idea, no one ever really does this.
Personally for me Gotham has some of my favorite iterations of some bad guys the only exceptions are Harley second iteration Joker in Solomon Grundy because all the Legacy villains and characters I felt like got fleshed out in ways to where I saw especially with penguin and Riddler like The Human Side that feel like gets overshadowed by their crazy antics
David Mazouz deserve so much to appear in the big screen if he wants
Great freaking video man. I love this show. I never understood the hate for this show. People just like to hate and don't like new things even though they ask for it and don't want the same BS. As wrestling fans we all know to well lol. It does have some false that you pointed out but over all I love this show. Happy it happened and happy it had 5 seasons
I was hoping they were gonna make Lee Harley Quinn. I always thought Morena Baccarin really resembles the character.
Ahhh finally you come back to the villains of Gotham! FINALLY!
Head trauma could 100% change a person's personality that drastically. Idk about a bullet-based lobotomy though. 😅
A memory I will forever have attached to this show was the first time I binge watched all of it with my stepdad ,we were both recovering from different surgery's at the time and I still remember at the end of Jerome's first episode watching him switch from fake crying to laughter I looked at my stepdad and asked if he knew who that was and he immediately said The Joker (His knowledge of Batman only goes as far as some of the movies)
Love both Jerome and Jeremiah, but personally i prefer Jeremiah, especially his season 5 performance.
If they hadn’t killed Jerome to make way for Jerimiah I think he would be better liked. They should have had them both running around and you don’t know which one you’re getting in any episode.
Brent Spiner's Joker has come a long way. Check him out in the new Batman Audio Adventures, season 2. He's great as the campy Joker with a murderous edge.
My issues with the show is with introducing all of Batman's villains where they shouldn't existed yet and some are just copy of the establish batman villains. Some villains are acceptable like The Penguin, Selina Kyle, and Jerome as he can be Jack Napier in that universe before becoming The Joker in the future. The show should have stick with criminal gangs, mob boss, and mafias' as they're the control of Gotham before Supervillains existed.
I thought the show was ok as a mafia show in season 1 but also a bit dull. Season 2 is wacky and just got more so afterwards and that's what i loved about it. They were just throwing in more and more villains for fan service and i loved that too.
If it stayed a mafia show i still would have watched it but it wouldn't have been as good because it would've been hard to top the season 1 story especially without Salvatore.
@@shalindelta7 Maybe Gotham should have been a two season.
I disagree about one the Joker issue. I loved both Jerome and Jeremiah and considered it an absolute hoot when he states that he will think of a name that starts with a "J". I loved both Jerome and Jeremiah for the similarities to the other great Jokers, Nicholson and Hamill. I know that Cameron Monaghan has stated that he studied many of the portrayals of the character so that he could give his best performance. I felt that he did a great job in every scene and feel his threat no matter which version he plays.
I was always confused by the comparison of Barabara Keen to Harley Quinn. I see it a little better now, but I think Echo was the more clear parallel.
I have long criticized Danny DeVito's Penguin as being too monstrous, unclean, and filthy. The comic character was fastidious in both his attire and habits. It was nice then to see Robin Lord Taylor playing exactly that character, though he is not afraid to dirty his own hands. I also loved how you could never tell if Oswald was a serial killer, a spree killer, or something else entirely, because at various points he embodies all of them. Yet, we see moments of true humanity, compassion, and even love, though those emotions will not prevent him from destroying you if he bares a grudge.
There are a number of other great villains that should be mentioned, and some that the show should have given more time.
I was obsessed with this show. I couldn’t wait for what happened next. Season 1 was pretty average but the beginning of season 2 was arguably one of their best episodes. And while I agree the show got extremely odd and crazier seasons on, at a certain point I just went with it thinking, ‘it’s Gotham don’t question it’. This city is like the epicenter for all things insane and crooked. I mean penguin killed, cooked and served his half siblings to his stepmother and then proceeded to stab her and then decapitate her and use her head as a table decoration. Barbara was electrocuted in a way that should have killed her, butch was shot in the head resurrected as Solomon Grundy then somehow came back to normal only to be killed for good by penguin. Not even touching on the Kristen Kringle/Isabella look alike.
This show was insane to a point a little too insane when certain characters suddenly started working with people they normally wouldn’t or acting out of character. Yeah it was crazy but so much fun
While I really dont like Jeremiah as the new joker throughout the ending of the show, I loved his catalyst for going insane being that his whole goal was to do what Jerome never could, kill Jim Gordan and Bruce Wayne. And when he couldnt accomplish that it drove him crazy. It also gives an actually good reason to be obsessed with killing them instead of just (Oh well its the last thing I was doing before i died so yadayada.
Jerome is the most comic book accurate live action joker and no one can tell me otherwise, how ever I still say Heath is still the best live action joker for me and Mark is the best Joker period!
I think the Joker Cult was more of a statement of the Joker fans in real life. After Ledger, a lot of people dress up as the Joker. It hasn't slowed down.
I loved this show because it felt original and creative. The show runners didn't have the rights to certain characters and story line so they found creative ways to get around these limitations.
I loved Jeremiah's Joker. It was refreshing they let the clown pass on the legacy to the criminal.
We need a Gotham riddler video!!! ✨🙏
Bro dressed sharp af