How Brandon Sanderson Fans "Recommend" the Cosmere
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- It's a wonder I hadn't made this installment in the "Fans Recommending" series yet, especially with some people specifically requesting it. But here it is at last!
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when he quoted Dalinar about hypocrisy... it killed me lmfao
So so good
I actually laughed out loud.
Touché my dear man, touché
Epic meta message. Sardonic comedy with a deft yet affectionate flourish.
I've not even read any of the books and I could tell that had to be a quote.
Redditors trying to have an opinion somewhere between “everyone must read Brandon Sanderson by law” and “BRANDON SANDERSON IS LITERALLY THE WORST AUTHOR EVER AND IF YOU HAVE EVER READ ONE OF HIS BOOKS YOU DONT EVEN LIKE FANTASY”
Challenge level: impossible
I read a novella by him once and I quite enjoyed it, and I think I've got something else by him on my Kindle that I'll get around to sooner or later.
Good thing I don't use Reddit.
I guess I'm just not on the subreddits enough to experience this sorta thing lol. I quite liked Mistborn, especially in terms of how magic worked, but wasn't super interested in most of the other books he wrote. I think he's a good author in the sense that Mistborn's magic was really creative and interesting, but I do personally enjoy N. K. Jemisin a lot more. Honestly, if there's any fantasy book for me to recommend for people, it'll probably be The Fifth Season.
@@thebluebookworm3383 I loved the 5th season alot! Took a chance on that book and it was worth it!
“Sometimes a hypocrite is just a person in the process of changing.” Unironically good quote.
Best Way of Kings quote ever 😌
@@emmamason5383Isn’t that from Oathbringer?
@@rukhtalos8587 yup!!!
Why is that such a good quote
The reason we’re so willing to lend out copies is because we all unashamedly own 4 copies of each book.
Having just bought another paperback copy of Elantris, Way of Kings and Mistborn to loan to someone...I feel very seen by this comment.
This is so accurate. Especially the part where I break into people's homes, inform them Warbreaker is free digitally, and then offer to lend my own collection.
Warbreaker is free, that wasn't a joke! Didn't know this. Free stuff is the best place to start.
Yeah, for example, as a quick warmup before Brandon's work, you could read some other free works, like Worm, Homestuck, and Project Lawful, and then next month you can...
all of the books are free if you torrent them
It's the only cosmere book I disliked though, so I can't really recommend it.
Your time isn't worth anything to you?
You all know you can just use a library, right?
I truly thought r/cremposting was going to be in that wardrobe.
me too
See but then it would’ve been a Doug
I thought it was gonna be the man himself
I thought it was going to be a huge pile of Sanderson books toppling over on his head.
I kid you not, i saw someone post a video about how they DNFed the first Mistborn book because it was too slow and there wasn’t enough action, and half the comments were recommending she try Stormlight instead. Like, people, as someone who is casually obsessed with Stormlight, please stop embarrassing me.
I have been trying to get other people to read Sanderson for years now; I have not once recommended Stormlight as a starting point. It's just.... too much.
What did this person DNF mistborn at? 50 pages? Lots of things you can criticize Mistborn for, but slow? Not enough action??
@@lkay398 yep it was like 3 chapters in. I think it was their first foray into fantasy, they mostly read thrillers and romance
I don't think any book could make me DNF at 3 chapters haha@@Mightyjordy
@@lkay398 same, though I'm used to having to power through a whole 800 page book before things start getting good as a fantasy fan, so I don't pretend to know what the rest of the world is used to :)
Speaking as one of the moderators of the Brandon Sanderson subreddits, you absolutely NAILED IT. 🤣
does he though? i feel like r/books shits on sanderson regularly.
@@gleipnirrr it's mixed. Not homogenic
@@gleipnirrr Many people do! In no small part because many recommend him and talk about him like this. 🙂
Speaking as one of the moderators of Bookscirclejerk, you got it all wrong. Brandon Sanderson did not kill my child. He *did* eat it, but it was already dead
Why would you publicly admit to such a sin?
"A hypocrite is just a man in the process of changing" A+ Easter egg crowbar.
I started with Tress of the Emerald Sea 🤷♀️ the spoilers go right over your head anyways! Now that i've read Stormlight Archives and all the other standalones, i kinda want to go back and see what references i missed
That's not a bad way to do it IMO. You don't know what you don't know with Tress so you don't realize they are spoilers.
@@hockey1973 yeah I really enjoyed it! I feel like Tress and Yumi got a chance to shine on their own merit without the Cosmere connections. Now if I go back and re-read them I'll be able to see how they fit into the overall picture!
I'm doing a similar journey. Having read my first Cosmere book a few years ago, I can pick a series like Stormlight Archives and go through them one after another. Read another series and standalones (+ other authors and genres). After a year or two, I binge Stormlight Archives again. It's like Cherry Garcia ice cream, it satisfies a particular craving.
How did you even come across Tress without knowing about the rest of the Cosmere?
@@Kat-gp6gj simple: secret projects! I heard the news about how big his Kickstarter was, and had been interested in reading Mistborn and Way of Kings anyways, so I decided to dive in to the secret project books first and work my way through the Cosmere from there. I started reading Way of Kings after I read Yumi, and I've been progressively working through the backlist since
1. My daughter said she wanted a book for a book report for school. She said she didn't want a full on romance novel but she did want a novel with romance elements. My response: "MISTBORN. . . You want Mistborn!". She is now reading Mistborn.
2. My friend recently posted on social media "Who else is reading Brandon Sanderson? Man, this stuff is great!" and it took all my will power not to bombard him with 37 pages of fanboy spam. I did however give him a recommended reading order. . .
Yes, both of those did happen and are both true.
Could you please recommend me a reading order? I'm currently reading the way of kings, and I've read already mistborn, elantris and warbreaker, but I dont know if i should read Mistborn era two or words of radiance next. Pls help :'v
@@danielsantibanez3118mistborn era two, then words of radiance, as there is some stuff that connects them together very well
@@danielsantibanez3118never mind, I thought WOR was another one
@@danielsantibanez3118read either/ both
@@danielsantibanez3118Tricky. Stormlight and Mistborn Era 2 kind of start overlapping later on, so either way you'll get minor spoilers. I read them in publication order, which seemed to work ok.
Have you read Secret History from Arcanum Unbounded yet? I would recommend reading that as soon after Mistborn era 1 as possible.
Obviously you should start with the lost metal, then Sunlit man, Then Ryhtmn of war, then warbeaker, then read the entire WOT, follow up by reading yumi, then elantris, hope of elantris, rithmatist, cytonic, Unfinished tales by JRR tolkien, the entire 2nd mistborn saga
But you gotta read Warbreaker after each book
@@mateipanzariu3122No. You read Warbreaker between each chapter.
Rhythm of war before even reading oathbringer? I actually want to see someone try
I mean. OBVIOUSLY
What do you read between chapters of Warbreaker, then?@@hockey1973
I love seeing the r/bookscirclejerk representation. The thing to remember about that sub is that it’s a circlejerk sub and unjerking is not allowed
or else the mods will come to your house and crease the spine on your copy of mistborn
1:17 Oh! oh! The Frugal Wizard's Handbook! 🤓
Read the Hussite Trilogy by Andzej Sapkowski for some historical fantasy.
Damn straight
Or Temeraire series by Naomi Novik
The Cosmere is great if you love hard magic systems, complex worldbuilding, well done plot twists and slow but steady character development. It's also made of several different series but you don't need to read every single series to enjoy any one of them. There, have some actual advice.
I started reading Mistborn yesterday because of the hilarious videos on booktube... I wanted context, and I guess now I'm doomed to read them all to keep up with the discussion (and parodies)....
I hope I don't start popping out of people's closets. How common is that side effect?
I came here expecting for this to be me and well you got me in the second half, especially with my favorite Dalinar quote.
Also who recommends Mistborn for romantic fantasy when Yumi and the Nightmare Painter exists?
That's what I was thinking
Your choice of weapon would make you and Lift good friends!😂
Top comment!
I am beyond disappointed the r/cremposting Warbreaker reading order wasn't mentioned
"I was looking for historical fantasy like set in the real world, but with fantasy elements, know anything like that?"
Pretty much anything by Tim Powers
this is painfully accurate
I've read the Stormlight Archive, but only it. I was thinking about getting Warbreaker, and I had no idea I could read it for free on Brandon's site. Interesting.
Browsing r/bookscirclejerk is so funny, there’s at least one comment on every post which mentions Sanderson. I would recommend it to anyone
Please leave us alone
-Get Out
+Okay okay okay. Alright alright. You'll come around eventually though. I can see it.
-Get
+I'm going... Umm... So you know how i didn't pay my rent right? Can i crash at your closet for a couple days?
-GET OUT
1:24, Arguably The Once and Future King though not nearly to the same extent as Le Morte d’Arthur (though I’m not sure if it would qualify by your standard.)
If you like these videos, I recommend reading Mistborn
Recommending mistborn era 4 under sci fi even tho it’s not coming out for at least a decade is hillarious
The blinding effect after turning on the light was a nice touch.
Malazan too
Bro...I am so intimidated by this book.
Started and dropped Gardens of the moon like 4 times
I know, right! But I think that series is at least complete?
@@tedddenzel6769 I've always heard it's so confusing.
@@Yesica1993 just at the beginning of the first book. By the half of it, you find yourself actually getting the important parts.
That said, the magic is the most ambiguos part, but you just can say “Yeah, whatever Magic man.”
@@JaleaMagnetica Thanks!
How did you find 2 other dudes who look (and sound) exactly like you??
they were hiding in his closet this entire time
There's an agency that Ryan George runs on the side.
Ryan George cloning machine technology.
omg the free warbreaker on the website was just the cherry on top 😭😭😭😭 im literally that guy
In the process of watching this video, I found my Mistborn Phase 1 books at my Dad's house that I haven't seen in like 3 years
I once proposed to r/Fantasy that maybe instill a rule to not recommend books in the top 10 of the sub wide survey (Cosmere but also includes ASOIAF and Lord of the Rings), and have automod direct to that list on every recommendation thread, and people said I was cramping on their fun, so I tried.
I started with tress to test the waters with a lighthearted standalone book. The moved to mistborn, was delighted with the tiny little hoid cameo (a promise of a connected universe), by the end of the final empire I was in love with mistborn. At the end of the hero of ages I knew I had to know more, then I made the mistake of reading secret history because I wanted to know what happened with a certain character, and at that point, I, along with said character, understood how little I knew of what is the cosmere. After that I followed sanderson's recommended order (if the author recommends it, I am following it) I loved warbreaker and elantris so so much, even though people say they are some of his weaker works, adored yumi, was surprised by how much I liked era two of mistborn and I won't even start on the stormlight archive. Wow. Just wow. I dont think I ve loved a fictional character more than my man kaladin. Trully sanderson's masterpiece. Sucks I have to wait like a decade before he completes it, if I am lucky, but we'll I am on board now. Mistborn era three here we gooo!
So happy I'm on the outside looking in on this. I have Cosmere in the category of "I'll get to it when I get to it." I have like 20 Classic must-reads to get to before I begin on this modern must-read.
I mean tbf Mistborn literally has every genre in it at some point
I'm really waiting for the video where he finally gets one of these book subs to recommend a book that isn't Cosmere..... just for it to be another series by Brandon Sanderson...
yep. that's why people of reddit asking for recommendations will often say no mistborn and why mistborn was banned from some recommendation subreddits.
I just told my friend theres this trilogy called mistborn, it has some more related books released after it if you like it, and the first book mostly works by itself if you find you dont like it enough to continue so its not really a huge commitment.
Then i might recommend that other totally unrelated series by the same writer called the stormlight archive and see how long it takes them to figure it out
This was really really really well done! And hilarious!
I feel like an absolute stranger as someone who's only read Alcatraz
Not to fear. I was in your boat, too, once.
Sanderson’s got what fans crave. Mistborn’s got electrolytes.
r/fantasy felt like this about Malazan for so long to me, how the tides have changed
I don't understand the exasperation. Those two guys were being totally reasonable.
4:46
"LOCKSLEY! I'LL CUT YOUR HEART OUT WITH A *SPOON!!!"*
I love Sanderson's books, I'm completely up to date on them and can't wait for more. However, I think more people should read the Dresdin Files. They're great.
me, who's used to steven brust:oh cool, some light reading then, nice.
I asked my friend for a book recommendation. I was recommended mistborn at gunpoint. I am now a sanderson enjoyer.
I read the first 3 Mistborn, then the Stormlight Archives (first the 5 mainline books, and then the 2 novellas), then The Frugal Wizard's Handbook For Surviving Medieval England (I know it's not Cosmere), and then I just finished Sunlit Man. And thats where I'm at rn.
I still haven't read a Sanderson story yet. Someday though, maybe.
Asks for cookbook recommendations: Gets Mistborned
“Do you not understand how annoying that is to normal people”😂
I wonder if this guy does just sit around and talk to himself. This seems like a good friend group.
My daughter won’t leave me alone about these books.
17 book ha
Try reading diskworld with 41
(Im joking i know diskworld books are shorter and easier to read and you don't really need to read all of them to understand them this is just a joke)
Ok it's time to re-read stormlight
17...That's how many Percy Jackson books there are (if we include the 3 5 book series, The Chalice of the Gods, and The Sun and the Star, but not Magnus Chase, the Kane Chronicles, or the related PJO books)
"Is that a Silver spoon? Do you know that Silver is really important in the cosmere??"
Facing danger with a spoon
On my way to read Mistborn era 4
Gripping through and through. 10/10 vid
"have to read 5 books a year to keep up with the conversations..."
I have a confession.
I still haven't read that extra story that we got at the end of the 4 Secret Projects. I haven't watched the announcement of the next Secret Project. I haven't even been to the subreddit in so long, I probably wouldn't even understand the memes anymore. I'm so behind...
-Sci-fi
- mistborn era 4
Fucking brilliant, I laughed so hard
Hey, I'm on that thumbnail!
One of my favourite videos.
I went through and planned out my reread of the Cosmere for the 5th Stormlight book and it's _only_ 463 hours of audiobook. Very doable. Over 7 months, that's _only_ a little more than 2 hours of Cosmere a day. I highly recommend everyone do it
Edit: Is this going to be the 3rd time I've reread most of the Cosmere (only the second reread of Mistborn, weirdly), in less than 4 years? Yes. And? If I'm not reading a Brandon Sanderson book in a month, my reading list feels incomplete
Mistborn era 4 cracked me up
I too shove Cosmere quotes into my sentences while pretending that I wasn't just quoting a book
If you're looking for non-cosmere stuff, try the Skyward series. It's a really good sci-fi series. The Reckoners is pretty good too. Or maybe try the Frugal Wizard's Guide for Surviving Medieval England if you're looking for more fantasy-type stuff
Or maybe try Alcatraz
as a half redditor this depiction of reddit seems pretty accurate to me
I think it’s actually somewhat hilarious that this video was recommended to me as I just finished reading the RAFO ordering of the Cosmere over the past I’d say month and a half (I spent practically every waking moment that I wasn’t doing school work reading or listening to the books). If you’re tired hearing about mistborn I recommend diving in with Tress of the Emerald Sea it’s only one book it’s shorter than mistborn 1 by about half and the story is very enjoyable
"You'll come around eventually." Haha XD
Honestly thought he was gonna walk back into the closet at the end there 😆
Could anyone in the comments recommend some good low-fantasy novels? I recently finished reading the entire Witcher series and now I feel a little empty inside because I loved them.
First Law, Black Company, ASOIAF.
crescent city maybe
“Pirate Captain Tharkia” by Ethan S. Carroll, if ya want a newer author
Thank you all ❤
Battle Mage Farmer by Seth Ring, any series by michael j. sullivan.
I’m glad that door ended up being for your closet because it looks flimsy as fuck
The fact rhey go to Mistborn instead of Warbreaker for a fantasy romance recommendation bothers.
Mistborn truly is a redditors book
Do Brandon Sanderson Fans aslo have to read "The Wheel of Time"?
As a person who only read mistborn and nothing else i feel attacked
I wanted to get into adult fantasy since I haven't read any fantasy since highschool - and literally every recommendation was brandon sanderson. So I went to the bookstore and was confused because I had to look up which books to read first, and some were like, 'oh well this trilogy you don't HAVE to read but it gives context and this and this' and I'm just, confused. And then they say his magic system is super deep and complex but I just wanted a whimsical adult fantasy story - I don't need multiple series spanning hundreds of years in lore in different locations. XD Then when I asked the workers at the store they said I should read ACOTAR and I was like, "Oh?" Cause according to youtube and tiktok it's the worst thing on the planet so now I have no idea what I'm supposed to get into XD
Basically try a single book and see if you like the tone. When it comes to Brandon and the Cosmere I do not think you need to be Cosmere aware to enjoy his work. Read one of them Mistborn, Tress, Warbreaker (which is free so nothing committed but time). if you like his style then read more when you want to.
If you want to try something more satirical try Pratchett you can't really go wrong reading Guard Guards or Going Postal and see if you like that tone when you read that 1 book... if you do GO for it. He has lots of books but non you NEED to read.
If you want something a little more generic fantasy try some Forgotten Realms like maybe The Crystal Shard by Salvatore. if you like it there is a lot more there but again unnecessary if you don't.
If you want something a little shorter than Sanderson but not generic fantasy try something like Peter V Brett the Painted Man (Post apocalyptic fantasy setting) or the Dresden Files (Modern crime solving in a fantasy setting).
I could go on but basically the key is try one book don't worry about the series or how many other books that author has etc and just see if you like the feel of it. If you do most authors have a lot more for you to consume. But if they can't engage you with a book on its own... then they may not be for you and there are so many others you don't need to commit.
Once you have tried a couple and found what you like you can use that to find other series that are likely to work for you. If you like Sanderson you are likely to enjoy Jordan, if you like things more grim and dark like George Martin you may find you like Joe Abercrombie etc. But this idea that you can't enjoy something unless you have (or are willing to) watched/read it all is just foolishness.
Okay but I would like to recommend this series called Mistborn
I just read Tress and the Emerald sea and I loved it but the rest of the cosmere is intimidating. I really just want to find out more about aethers. I want to find out what the other spores in the spore seas are
I just took a week long break from TH-cam but was still getting the notifications- this was the closest I came to breaking my resolve. I didn't, though!
4:47
Smart. He use aluminium spoon, so no mistborn or allomarcer can spot weapond
You nailed my experience with this going back to when he started. (Yes, I'm old.) If you really want some "romantasy" do Leigh Bardugo. (I swear, it doesn't matter that they're 17. Are The Wheel of Time people 17. I don't know! because... Sanderson people totally scared me away making me feel like I would have to take Sanderson on as a minor in college or grad school. I'm scared to this day.
You make me laugh mate, but yes I understand how people go over the top. Also Leigh Bardugo would be a solid choice.
I mean, check out Discworld, or Modesitts Recluce, or Feists Riftwar lol, lots of other big series/worlds out there. Biggest difference it that Sanderson is all the past 20 years or so.
Other genres have this problem. In the 4X Gaming subreddit, there is a contingent of gamers who think "Stellaris" is the answer for everything. "Would like a heavily detailed space empire game". Stellaris. "Would like something easy to learn". Stellaris. "Looking for a long game of epic scope". Stellaris. "Something I can play quickly." Stellaris. "Looking for a space 4X game that does X, Y & Z... but NOT Stellaris". Stellaris. (srsly, they have recommended Stellaris for people who specifically want to exclude it from consideration)
Can you make a video about All Tomorrows. I think it has plenty of opportunities for some weird kind of tomfoolery. Reaally weird
My favorite is Reddit responding to newbs who wander into cremposting and believe they’ve discovered some kind of alien cult
Brandon Sanderson fans are to Books what Kentaro Miura fans are to Manga.
as a person who has only read 2 standalone novels by brandon sanderson, both of them being considered the worst starting points to start reading the cosmere by many people, my opinion is to start wherever you like and not go and ask a brando sando scholar where to start reading the cosmere or just brandon sanderson in general and read what interests you.
I genuinely think bro should read Mistborn. Just because you read the first book in a series doesn't mean you have to read the rest of it.
We're only so pushy because we're right!! Everyone should read the Cosmere.
(Joking... partially.)
I'm really into dark fantasy. Any recommendations? (I've read mistborn already so don't bother)
if you think that fans recomending cosmere (which from my research seems to be ~4m words) is bad you should do an episode on fans of "the wandering inn" which is like 5x as big and as a fan of this series we reccomend it to everyone lmao
I loved the ending
Waiting on that review of Netflix ‘s three body problem first season with a compare / contrast of the Tencent series !
Did someone say BRANDOSANDO?!!!