It took my breath away when Christine said that this was an ending. Profound. Most people talk about weddings being new beginnings. Christine recognized the ending of what was working for the OG3.
Not that what was working for the OG3 was great at all, since nobody really got what they wanted and the kids got very little attention from their dad, but the adults had all agreed to it.
You’ll need more bourbon than that amount in your glass! Please take note, there are never ever any real tears when she fake cries! It’s so obnoxious all her fake crying
Kody should have taken Robyn’s kids so she could get ready. I still feel horrible for Christine.Everything around Truly’s birth has been so tarnished by Kody’s behavior. Especially considering how she was considered a high risk pregnancy after going through trauma from the loss of her pregnancy before.
Robyn having another dress made irks me. The fleecing of the pot. She didn’t need to spend that kind of money on a second dress. I guess because she came into the family with so much debt, three kids and no job. Sorry for the rant!
I'm worried about her girls doing the same thing. Aurora seems genuine but Brianna in the recent season seemed almost fake crying. I'm not sure if it was how it was edited or if it was fake.
Meri is the queen of making jokes that aren't jokes. People say Robyn cried a lot but Meri was constantly in tears even as she defended a belief system she didn't think she could ever disagree with.
He had delusions of grandeur and how important his role of changing people’s minds about polygamy, LDS,AUB, Mormonism, etc. Once it didn’t become his reality he became angry.
Until Kooter and Robyn start holding themselves accountable, the public won’t give them a free pass. I’m sorry, but that really is the way of the world.
The part where you speak about remembering to having an open mind with your opinions reminded me of a great quote! “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ - Mark Twain
So refreshing to hear commentary on this show from someone who is so bright and has such great insight. I love what you said about the worst things in history being done out of total certainty. NOTHING could be more true!
I dont come from a cult or religious family but both me and my sister have lost contact with my mom because she never tries to keep a relationship with us. I remember one time when my sister was going through a depression and saying for the first time "i just want a mom and i want to feel wanted". That hurt me so bad, my sweet sister who deserves the world. I know how hard it can be to actively say "I deserve better" and block out family even tho you want nothing more than to love them and be loved by them.
Thank you for sharing your perspective! I am a SW watcher from the very first episode. I hate to admit that in the beginning I thought they worked as a family. That was my fascination...I couldn't , in any universe , imagine sharing my husband. I really believed the polygamist propaganda of it all. Now knowing the reality, it breaks my heart. I definitely have a parasocial attachment..... I want to stop following SW content, but I can't. ANYWAY, I am glad you survived your time in the AUB. My heart breaks for your family. AND again thank you for sharing your life with us.
I also watched SW from the first episode on TLC and fascinated with the same inner workings of the Brown family. I did stop watching after the Mary catfishing scandal (not sure what season?). I kept up with them via People magazine and reddit, but when I saw a TLC trailer in 2022, it hooked me back in 📺
He will probably not forgive himself if he does not go up there and help his grandma. His dad has stolen her property, she has basically asked him for help. she wants that book out.
I believe that no possession is more valuable than your child's value and self worth. This means if a plate is broken buy a new plate. Care more for your children than your possessions.
I just wanted to say, that I am truly happy you were able to escape polygamy and the fact you saved your children as well. I'm also thankful I found your videos on TH-cam since I don't have Tictok. :) I have learned more about The Brown Family and polygamy in your first video than I did watching 18 Seasons of Sister Wives. Thank you and God Bless!
I absolutely appreciate you recapping these episodes! I hope you continue to recap the seasons because I am learning so much from your experience and honesty. The explanations of the culture and beliefs is helpful for seeing Mormonism for what it is and not for its portrayal. It’s fascinating as an outsider but then I’m reminded that these are real beliefs by real people. Very proud of all the hard work you’ve done thus far because it’s not easy to go against your beliefs and family to change the way you see the world.
Agreed. Ben gives very relevant context to the actions and attitudes we see on SW. I still enjoy the content creators that snark on the show but this channel is just so important.
It is really good to hear the truth from an actual family member. I am sorry & it's so heartbreaking listening to what you and your siblings and ALL children of polygamy went through such hell. 😢🥺❤️🩹
Thanks for reminding me about future faking. Disengaging myself from a narcissist friend and started to miss them a bit. When you mentioned that trick (one of their favorites - i call it dangling the carrot), it strengthened my resolve to stay away. ❤
Wow, the Brown DNA is strong. You and Kody are clones. Sorry, not trying to hurt your feelings. Really love your input to the Sister Wives story. Very informative. I am subscribed!👍
This is so fun! I would LOVE to hear more about the AUB doctrines and other secrets. Specifically, the Mormon numerology 🤣 It seems like there are specific numbers of spouses to get to heaven.
I absolutely love listening to you, you are sooo smart! You put things in ways that really helped me understand my own thoughts and feelings. Love following you. ❤
Dear Ben I agree with your point that BIG emmotions for children take no time to be present and hold space for them. As a social worker, I have adults who also have BIG emmotions and recently I couldn't hold space for the individual. She had taken up a lot of space and continued to demand more to the point of being obtuse to my colleauges and manager. my brain broke and told her I couldn't hold space any further.
Glad you got that drink and Jaysus the comedy comes from pain man but you make art out of it. Good for you. I can tell you have done an amazing amount of work. You are super impressive man.
Wait til you see Robyn kick the dog. And then push the child, i. think it was Truely ...away from her when the little one tried to be included in something she was doing, and the note on the fridge saying Don't eat food without asking...and the things she says about the other kids, mostly Janelle's boys. ugh ...edit.. I just remembered that some people on reddit were saying that the dog kicking had been edited out...I have only ever watched each episode one time. I couldn't take a rewatch of any season
The thing you said about your dad really ressonates with me. My parents are far from religious but one is a narcissist and the other does not know how to be there ever. I agree with you and have done the same with my dad. Except give him a book 😅
If you like sweet, and haven't liked wine generally because of the bitterness, try Ice Wine. I hate it because it's so sweet, but a lot of people love it. The grapes are grown in cold climates, like up here in Canada :)
I’m also a Gemini with Libra rising. The only Gemini trait that ever felt like something I could relate to was being able to see both sides of arguments. Which can be a bad thing. Also, I’m born on the day historians say would likely be the actual birth day of Jesus when taking clues from the Bible. 😅
I forgot how good they were at lieing at the begining. it did not take long for the truth to start to show. All the OG wives admit they were never really close, they never spent a lot of time together.
So true. Janelle and Christine stayed on their People interview last summer that they only became close when they moved to Flagstaff which was 8 years after season 1!
Thank you for that and you’re kind words in why you’re doing this. And for understanding that Kody and family are people.. people in the “big wild world” love to watch a train wreck but they are people still and they all love to hate it’s just sad all around if you ask me
I'm not on TikTok so I'm glad you put these on youtube. I also am no contact with my dad and I do comedy. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to get to talk to you someday about the comparisons of the evangelical church and what you've talked about here. Obviously not plural marriage, but damn if we don't also indulge in so much of the toxic behaviors but with our own fun twist.
The family did get therapy. They acknowledged they needed help. The problem, imo, was that Kody still had too much power. Maybe, Nancy the therapist, knew how careful she needed to be? They would have walked away? Certain things didn't get discussed. And unfortunately, Kody ended up going old-school patriarcy because he felt tired & burdened. He moved backwards. Anyone not being blindly loyal, had to walk. He changed the contract while blaming everyone else. He felt like a victim while alienating everyone. Would that have happened if the therapy was successful? Who knows... During the sessions it was mainly the wives faults, since they were the ones with issues... Kody was kind to be there. Sessions ended sometimes up with placing blame.
Is that drinking game Robyn really crying or typical no tears Robyn pretending to cry with no tears. If it's the latter, you're going to need a lot more whiskey than that!
You had my heart when you said there is a Sky Mama. Axé Amen Om!!!! 🧘🏾♀️🙏🏾☮️ My journey has taken me from Black fundamentalist evangelical southern baptist ~ (look up 'southern Black mega church culture) ~ to becoming an interfaith mystic divine feminine loving witchy woman & I love living in my own skin & who I have evolved into being. It had not been easy, but I embrace my journey because it's MINE. Axé Amen Om (Axé sounds like 'Ashay' ~ it's Swahili for 'Amen' & 'I agree with you')
You translated your golden plate with Robyn’s magic cap in hand? (Don’t worry, your uncle will explain it several times, over 18 seasons) Fresh King Benjamin is truly a prophet of sanity. The LDS Church + polygamy broke generations & generations of my family (mainly the women, but all were affected), most of my living cousins are exmo, I’m a first generation heathen, and so - thank you mom. Thank you for bringing healing through these videos and humor to those who still struggle. I have more than compassion for my elderly dad. He was born to believe in only what his family had carried on their backs from New England to Utah Territory. Joseph Smith, don’t even get me started. Thanks again for your brutal honesty. There’s always more than meets the eye about SW. I hope one day K&R can practice honest emotional and financial accountability for the remaining surviving family and their exes.
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The Sister Wives Professor calls the thing Robyn does "Crying Adjacent Behaviors" and now it makes so much sense.
Robyn says she is the best communicator but doesn’t ever communicates with anyone….. she is a nut case
It took my breath away when Christine said that this was an ending. Profound. Most people talk about weddings being new beginnings. Christine recognized the ending of what was working for the OG3.
Not that what was working for the OG3 was great at all, since nobody really got what they wanted and the kids got very little attention from their dad, but the adults had all agreed to it.
@@muriel5826agree. So why not add another wife who immediately comes with 3 kids and probably will get pregnant with more later on.
You’ll need more bourbon than that amount in your glass! Please take note, there are never ever any real tears when she fake cries! It’s so obnoxious all her fake crying
Kody should have taken Robyn’s kids so she could get ready.
I still feel horrible for Christine.Everything around Truly’s birth has been so tarnished by Kody’s behavior. Especially considering how she was considered a high risk pregnancy after going through trauma from the loss of her pregnancy before.
Thank you so much for your recaps Benjamin. This community needed your voice:)
Robyn having another dress made irks me. The fleecing of the pot. She didn’t need to spend that kind of money on a second dress. I guess because she came into the family with so much debt, three kids and no job. Sorry for the rant!
Robyn plays prima donna herself and projects it on her child.
I'm worried about her girls doing the same thing. Aurora seems genuine but Brianna in the recent season seemed almost fake crying. I'm not sure if it was how it was edited or if it was fake.
Meri is the queen of making jokes that aren't jokes. People say Robyn cried a lot but Meri was constantly in tears even as she defended a belief system she didn't think she could ever disagree with.
I hate those "jokes" that you know aren't real jokes. Like Ben and you said. My dad used to do jokes like these while I was growing up.
Yes, 100%.
I think she wants more kids so that she doesn't have to work.
And to anchor herself in the family
He had delusions of grandeur and how important his role of changing people’s minds about polygamy, LDS,AUB, Mormonism, etc. Once it didn’t become his reality he became angry.
That's because in trying to prove his beliefs to others he came to the realization he was living a lie.
Yea. Narcs get real cocky when they think they’ve got it all under control and then blame and become victims when it goes to shit
@@mjc42701I really wonder how much Kody ever believed his religion. Maybe he did when he went on his mission.
I never had an opinion about polygamy until Kody demonstrated why it’s so malignant 😖
@@Bubby869 😂
Until Kooter and Robyn start holding themselves accountable, the public won’t give them a free pass. I’m sorry, but that really is the way of the world.
"I'm the prophet because I found a golden plate at Burning Man..." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The part where you speak about remembering to having an open mind with your opinions reminded me of a great quote!
“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ - Mark Twain
So refreshing to hear commentary on this show from someone who is so bright and has such great insight. I love what you said about the worst things in history being done out of total certainty. NOTHING could be more true!
You are like a breath of fresh air
I dont come from a cult or religious family but both me and my sister have lost contact with my mom because she never tries to keep a relationship with us. I remember one time when my sister was going through a depression and saying for the first time "i just want a mom and i want to feel wanted". That hurt me so bad, my sweet sister who deserves the world. I know how hard it can be to actively say "I deserve better" and block out family even tho you want nothing more than to love them and be loved by them.
Thank you for sharing your perspective! I am a SW watcher from the very first episode. I hate to admit that in the beginning I thought they worked as a family. That was my fascination...I couldn't , in any universe , imagine sharing my husband. I really believed the polygamist propaganda of it all. Now knowing the reality, it breaks my heart. I definitely have a parasocial attachment..... I want to stop following SW content, but I can't. ANYWAY, I am glad you survived your time in the AUB. My heart breaks for your family. AND again thank you for sharing your life with us.
I also watched SW from the first episode on TLC and fascinated with the same inner workings of the Brown family. I did stop watching after the Mary catfishing scandal (not sure what season?). I kept up with them via People magazine and reddit, but when I saw a TLC trailer in 2022, it hooked me back in 📺
@@blu3622 I know it's a bit crazy, but I genuinely care what happens to this family. So, I will watch until they quit putting stuff out there....🙃
You need to get in touch with Mormon Stories and share your story. It would help so many and your story is so unique!
Yes, please!!
Yes!!!
Religion doesn't own human belief... just wow!! I needed to hear that. Thank you
The best is when Robyn’s kids lock her out of the mini van bah bah bah
Very ritualistic so bizarre and creepy
He will probably not forgive himself if he does not go up there and help his grandma. His dad has stolen her property, she has basically asked him for help. she wants that book out.
💔
As they say in Scientology, “what do I know, I grew up in a cult”!
I believe that no possession is more valuable than your child's value and self worth. This means if a plate is broken buy a new plate. Care more for your children than your possessions.
You had me at Banning Daylight Savings
Wow, what a treat, content of more than 2 hours. Super happy and thank you Benjamin. I can listen to it for hours.
Sometimes I feel so bad for you because I can see the pain almost to tears that you feel because of this cult!! You're also funnier than hell
A happy horror film 🤣that about sums it up. I expect this channel to grow a lot, your commentary is the best.
Finally here I can't acsess TikTok felt I was missing something So glad you came to Y T
I grew up a preacher's kid in the non-denominational sect. We have a lot in common.
It’s funny you mention the spirit babies again because I remember the episode when Robyn talks about it
I don't trust folks who don't like critters either....and if a dog doesn't like a person you need to wary!
Rewatch .......man wished i watched this live!!
It takes courage to share your insights. Good on you!
Compassion is more powerful than judgement 👏👏👏 Yesss!!!
As a therapist of 15yrs; we NEED your insight in our career! Go for it PLEASE
I just wanted to say, that I am truly happy you were able to escape polygamy and the fact you saved your children as well. I'm also thankful I found your videos on TH-cam since I don't have Tictok. :)
I have learned more about The Brown Family and polygamy in your first video than I did watching 18 Seasons of Sister Wives. Thank you and God Bless!
Robyn starts talking *sniffs drink*
😂
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometime, you get what you need.
I absolutely appreciate you recapping these episodes! I hope you continue to recap the seasons because I am learning so much from your experience and honesty. The explanations of the culture and beliefs is helpful for seeing Mormonism for what it is and not for its portrayal. It’s fascinating as an outsider but then I’m reminded that these are real beliefs by real people. Very proud of all the hard work you’ve done thus far because it’s not easy to go against your beliefs and family to change the way you see the world.
Agree - I really like the comments on the culture and religion and how it actually plays out in families.
Agreed. Ben gives very relevant context to the actions and attitudes we see on SW. I still enjoy the content creators that snark on the show but this channel is just so important.
It took the Catholic Church 2000 years to acknowledge SOME of its wrongs. You might have a wait Ben on that apology from the LDS Church. 😊
I can be pretty obnoxious 😂
It is really good to hear the truth from an actual family member. I am sorry & it's so heartbreaking listening to what you and your siblings and ALL children of polygamy went through such hell. 😢🥺❤️🩹
Sweet puppy. Dogs are pure love. Hello beautiful Peg.
Holy wow. I knew they were racist but dang. Thank you for explaining this in a manner we all can understand!
These Browns NEED to stay hydrated when they get the flu. It's a problem.
I hope there are LDS folks open enough to hear what you have to say.
I want you to do an interview for Mormon stories soooo badly
Tell em! I’d love to go on there
Yes, please!
I'm glad someone asked about the gaydar as from the first episode this is what I thought in terms of Kody. Thanks for reviewing this series for us.
The intro makes me think of stepford wives
I am so glad you are doing this!
Thanks for reminding me about future faking. Disengaging myself from a narcissist friend and started to miss them a bit. When you mentioned that trick (one of their favorites - i call it dangling the carrot), it strengthened my resolve to stay away. ❤
Wow, the Brown DNA is strong. You and Kody are clones. Sorry, not trying to hurt your feelings. Really love your input to the Sister Wives story. Very informative. I am subscribed!👍
I learned from FLDS survivor interviews that Warren Jeffs taught that he was the president of the USA. 🙃
Thank you so much for coming to You Tube as well as tiktok. Loving this channel x
You had me at ending Daylight Savings
This was great. Thank you. ❤❤❤
I always liked your Grandmother...she reminded me of my Great Grandmother. We have been Blessed to have had them, love us 💜
Ben, Thank you for making me smile!!
This is so fun! I would LOVE to hear more about the AUB doctrines and other secrets.
Specifically, the Mormon numerology 🤣 It seems like there are specific numbers of spouses to get to heaven.
Side note, I am painting my office as I am watching this and I can't stop staring at the wall line behind you 😂
With your grandfather being new to polygamy, how did he convert all of his sons so quickly? Did any of his kids pass on the conversion?
Good question! I've wondered this as well.
About half of the family converted and about half didn’t
@@thefreshkingbenjaminAre any of your cousins practicing polygamy?
I absolutely love listening to you, you are sooo smart! You put things in ways that really helped me understand my own thoughts and feelings. Love following you. ❤
You seem like a lovely person. Glad to have found your channel through the Sister Wives rabbit hole.
Dear Ben I agree with your point that BIG emmotions for children take no time to be present and hold space for them. As a social worker, I have adults who also have BIG emmotions and recently I couldn't hold space for the individual. She had taken up a lot of space and continued to demand more to the point of being obtuse to my colleauges and manager. my brain broke and told her I couldn't hold space any further.
I was struck by Robyn being alone prepping for the wedding. Was her family against the wedding?
Thank you for the content Ben. Interesting to hear your take on Mormonism and Polygamy. We outsiders, (Gentiles) know so little about the lifestyle.
1:38:04 the golden plate at burning man and why you’re the prophet is awesome
If you liked that, you should join my cult. I’m just getting started with the mockery 😈
I think Aurora was also upset because the that bird and the bald eagle took them kids away from their dad and made them start calling Cody dad
Correction: That angry bird took them away from their dad.
Amen-love your point of view!
Keep your cute dog away from Robyn.
Will never forget Robyn kicking Meri dog in the face. Disgusting
I wonder if he caught that moment or if it happened yet) that blip when she kicks drake 😑
They cut it out
Are you sure? I thought when i rewatched i saw@@nancimanuele4129
@@helenejordan3896 it's when they are moving from Utah to vegas
Glad you got that drink and Jaysus the comedy comes from pain man but you make art out of it. Good for you. I can tell you have done an amazing amount of work. You are super impressive man.
She won't let the other wives watch her kids.
possibly Robyn suspected that Meri wanted to do in little Solomon out of jealousy at the male heir
Wait til you see Robyn kick the dog. And then push the child, i. think it was Truely ...away from her when the little one tried to be included in something she was doing, and the note on the fridge saying Don't eat food without asking...and the things she says about the other kids, mostly Janelle's boys. ugh ...edit.. I just remembered that some people on reddit were saying that the dog kicking had been edited out...I have only ever watched each episode one time. I couldn't take a rewatch of any season
Your perspective on the series is refreshing. I appreciate the historical information on the LDS. Plus your dog is cute!
She’s the best girl 😍
Kody must be so pissed off. 😆😆😆😆
The thing you said about your dad really ressonates with me. My parents are far from religious but one is a narcissist and the other does not know how to be there ever. I agree with you and have done the same with my dad. Except give him a book 😅
We deserve to have our parents show up for us well ❤
Oh my goodness I forgot about the increase our bust we used to do! Worked to good for me 😅 your grandma sounds precious.
If you like sweet, and haven't liked wine generally because of the bitterness, try Ice Wine. I hate it because it's so sweet, but a lot of people love it. The grapes are grown in cold climates, like up here in Canada :)
Meri said that to Kody bc it was already a couple of years since, we found out later, she and Kody hooked up😢
I’m also a Gemini with Libra rising. The only Gemini trait that ever felt like something I could relate to was being able to see both sides of arguments. Which can be a bad thing. Also, I’m born on the day historians say would likely be the actual birth day of Jesus when taking clues from the Bible. 😅
Look forward to season 17&18
I forgot how good they were at lieing at the begining. it did not take long for the truth to start to show. All the OG wives admit they were never really close, they never spent a lot of time together.
So true. Janelle and Christine stayed on their People interview last summer that they only became close when they moved to Flagstaff which was 8 years after season 1!
Thank you for that and you’re kind words in why you’re doing this. And for understanding that Kody and family are people.. people in the “big wild world” love to watch a train wreck but they are people still and they all love to hate it’s just sad all around if you ask me
Are you there God? It's me, Margaret.
Is the Judy Bloom book. Was a rite of passage book for many girls. They recently made a movie of it also.
Kody is like king of weaponized incomeptence.
As we get into the vegas cul-de-sac episodes new drinking game needs to be everytime hey say safe place. And them towards 15-17 culpable. 😊
ben u look so like kody except u have darker hair. i love that u r realistic and tell the truth
I'm not on TikTok so I'm glad you put these on youtube. I also am no contact with my dad and I do comedy. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to get to talk to you someday about the comparisons of the evangelical church and what you've talked about here. Obviously not plural marriage, but damn if we don't also indulge in so much of the toxic behaviors but with our own fun twist.
Careful some of us know signing. Lol. 😂 also in the mormon church it was the tokens and penalties and ya they were taken out.
The family did get therapy.
They acknowledged they needed help. The problem, imo, was that Kody still had too much power.
Maybe, Nancy the therapist, knew how careful she needed to be?
They would have walked away?
Certain things didn't get discussed.
And unfortunately, Kody ended up going old-school patriarcy because he felt tired & burdened. He moved backwards. Anyone not being blindly loyal, had to walk. He changed the contract while blaming everyone else. He felt like a victim while alienating everyone.
Would that have happened if the therapy was successful? Who knows...
During the sessions it was mainly the wives faults, since they were the ones with issues... Kody was kind to be there. Sessions ended sometimes up with placing blame.
Kody never felt there was anything he needed to analyze about his part in relationships and behaviors. He refused to work or improve himself.
That was funny. I enjoyed it. So your goal is to teach “normal “? You have my vote if you’ll stop the time change. Lol
Christine should of given Robin some white pepper for her bachelorette party 🎉😁
Is that drinking game Robyn really crying or typical no tears Robyn pretending to cry with no tears. If it's the latter, you're going to need a lot more whiskey than that!
Yay!!! 2hr!!!! Score❤❤❤❤
I appreciate your honesty.
Hey Ben, I'm from Scotland which village are you from? Love your work. ❤
You had my heart when you said there is a Sky Mama.
Axé Amen Om!!!!
🧘🏾♀️🙏🏾☮️
My journey has taken me from Black fundamentalist evangelical southern baptist ~ (look up 'southern Black mega church culture) ~ to becoming an interfaith mystic divine feminine loving witchy woman & I love living in my own skin & who I have evolved into being. It had not been easy, but I embrace my journey because it's MINE.
Axé Amen Om
(Axé sounds like 'Ashay' ~ it's Swahili for 'Amen' & 'I agree with you')
I love that journey for you ❤
You translated your golden plate with Robyn’s magic cap in hand? (Don’t worry, your uncle will explain it several times, over 18 seasons)
Fresh King Benjamin is truly a prophet of sanity. The LDS Church + polygamy broke generations & generations of my family (mainly the women, but all were affected), most of my living cousins are exmo, I’m a first generation heathen, and so - thank you mom.
Thank you for bringing healing through these videos and humor to those who still struggle. I have more than compassion for my elderly dad. He was born to believe in only what his family had carried on their backs from New England to Utah Territory.
Joseph Smith, don’t even get me started.
Thanks again for your brutal honesty. There’s always more than meets the eye about SW. I hope one day K&R can practice honest emotional and financial accountability for the remaining surviving family and their exes.
You better fill up that glass and the bottle
All the grownups are future faking at the end.
I never liked wine, but if u mix a red wine with 7up, a wine cooler is pretty good. 😊