I've managed to never have a car payment (which has kind of ruined me), by buying "mechanics specials" or rebuilt titles, so I can't imagine starting now. That said...I'd save up and drop 5-7k on a ratty 350 or a flood title c5/frs over a $450 payment on a new supra/etc for the next "x" years. Then again...I'm a cheap ba$tard who happily puts around in a $1,000 1989 wagovan as a daily :D
The G42 m240i is actually fairly affordable when compared to the cars it competes with. As usual BMW underquoted the power. When people have lined it up with other cars it's performed amazingly.
Car prices are affordable if work wages increase and dealer mark ups were eliminated. Prices in the used car market will never go back to how it used to be. In two years I predict a 15% increase on all taxes.
As car guys we love to hate on cars we see as the competition which is why certain cars are hated on. I don’t think that’ll ever change, but the more sports cars we get the happier I am as a consumer
Definitely waiting for the third pedal. Cross-shopping a very short list of the Z, the Supra, and the new M2 (forthcoming). Manual only. My biggest concern is the non-tunability of the new model (for now - BMW always locks down their ECUs since about 2010 and they all eventually get cracked).
Regardless of being a Toyota/BMW mixed project they are still beautiful cars(I think I need one haha). Plus my RHD S14 is a 5spd, so yeah there is that. Cheers FI team 👍😎👍.
I agree! I think credit is due for Toyota in terms of bringing back the “Supra” name - regardless of being built by BMW. The fact that they are able to give the community an in-line 6, turbocharged sports car with an incoming manual transmission is something that we need to thank Toyota for. 🙏🏻
I love the look. But oddly I prefer the relative simplicity of the 2022 BRZ/86. This is a far nicer car but I like the minimalism of the BRZ. That said I'd totally autocross one of these and make it earn it's keep.
Hey that anemic drive train can be switched out. You can get a GR 86 and put a supra drive train or super charge original engine and see how anemic it is
@@aroundomaha What is your definition of muscle or sports car then? Because with low hp figures and low torque it sounds to me that all you want is a tight suspension and a manual gearbox.... I mean 228 hp is not THAT bad , especially for a lighter vehicle ... but you have stuff like a 350 or 370z or a sk2000 or hell even a slightly used porsche or corvette that just blow it out of the water in every performance metric except price... Tastes are subjective i guess. Not everybody wants perfection.
I'm glad Dakota's GR Supra is finally featured. I love my A91 Special Edition Supra and it's a blast to drive, especially with an upgraded Pure800 turbo. 😃
Ive been obsessed with the new z since i saw the proto and its a car i think id keep forever so the price isnt a comcern to me , same goes for the 2012 zl1
Best financial advice get a zl1 for now its used and already depreciated however the z car is brand new and hasn't depreciated yet which based on past z cars it will depreciate badly
Man if corona virus shortages didn’t totally destroy the used car market we would be able to pick up a used 3.0 in the mid to low 40k all day. But no, it costs the same to get a new Supra than a 2020 with 15k miles on it
@@jaimatic23 Faster doesn't matter. If it did, there are faster cars than the Supra for less money. Manual transmissions are more engaging, thus more fun. THAT'S what driving a sports car is all about: Fun. If you're going to drive an automatic, might as well buy an SUV.
@@Bl00dwerK i will guarantee you that you cant name ONE CAR thats faster than the supra mod for mod thats ether the same price or cheaper !!! Its obviously you never drove one , it’s because your stuck in the past when autos were slush boxes . You mean to tell me its more “FUN” to shift 12 gears on a 18 wheeler than a F1 car banging through 8 gears !
I was in the “rebadged BMW” crowd but I’ve come around. Once I hand my FRS down to my son I hope to pick up one of the manual Supras coming down the line
$10 a gallon of diesel here in the UK. Used to cost me, from empty with premium diesel, $106 to fill up. It now costs me, with standard non premium diesel $125. Think I might start walking 26 miles to work. Would be cheaper than sleep and drive lmao
I daily stick and I love it and the only way I would ditch it for an automatic is for a new car like that. I would rather have the auto in that car because I want to take full advantage of how fast it can shift and how fast the car is paddleshifters are also more then enough if I still feel the need to shift.
After everything I've seen and read over the years on the internet, I've come to the conclusion that "car enthusiasts" actually hate cars and just prefer to nitpick and trash them.
Nowadays, we’re just paying for the Tech in cars. Just let me connect my phone and that’s it. Don’t need the HUD, digital displays, or driving modes really.
Literally this. I got my ‘15 gla45 amg for $29k cause it has no tech and the ‘17+ ones with car play, etc start at $40k. I swapped the screen for 500$ and have the same car lmao
Literally this is it. I don’t need any fancy pants screens and digital displays and “rear view parking cam” like bro I know how to drive. I know how to park. I don’t need a stupid camera that’s what mirrors and turning around are for. Just give me Bluetooth so I can listen to music when I can’t unleash the music of the engine and we’re good
I get flack for owning a KIA Stinger because "It's just a KIA." But I honestly don't care, best purchase I made and don't regret it. May not be the FASTEST but I didn't buy it for speed. I researched it, I looked at the aftermarket support, I KNEW what issues I could be running into and so obviously I KNOW what I purchase & what I was getting myself into. To this day, 2 years now of owning the Stinger, I still do not regret my purchase. It still gives me the same excitement every time I get in and drive it and it feels absolutely amazing to drive.
Is called a Salgado top or something like that it’s an Italian last name the guy worked for pina frina in 60’s and put them on race cars for tall drivers helmets
yes and no brand new vs markups made it like why bother not paying for a up to date one but honestly i woudlnt know i rather stick to a good 5k ebike and save for right time
I think supras are probably one of the most pretty new sports cars out there right now but as someone who worked on them at a Toyota dealer I can tell you right now that they are an absolute nightmare to maintain and once these are 10 years old and very high mileage they are going to be a ticking time bomb of expensive repairs everything is everything is annoying and a bunch of extra steps are needed to work on anything.
Video came out perfect timing, I just sold my f10 M5. Thinking about getting one of these, don’t know if I wanna pull the trigger on another automatic with paddle shifts. Rn it’s between a new Supra, gr corolla (if I can get my hands on one), or a 2015 evo x FE . I’d be getting the evo for 30k so that’s more ideal
Tl:DR of my opinion: Not yet, markups are bloody insane and the increase in loans apr are not great sadly. Tl: SDR: Eventually it'll be worth it, but we have no idea when that'll be.
I’m just glad not many like the Supra my dealership was (Supra) helpful in getting me hooked up with allocation for the manual 2023 model. Orders were crazy for the gr Corolla and they told me how Supras sit there for months because no one wants em
@@cesun5452 no word, it’s gonna be a while as prices haven’t hit us yet. If I were to guess it’d probly be late this year early next year with supply chain issues. depending on how many cars can get allocated in your region.
@@FitmentIndustries I figured. I almost got the supra in 2020 . Couldn't find one very easily. I ended up with a 20 m2 comp . It's the only car I've liked as much as my old turbo 89 325is ( 10yrs ago). I just remembered Alex has an e30 so I knew deep down he didn't mind a bmw crossbreed . I don't understand why people are upset about (for me )one of the best inline 6 manufacturers making the motor for the supra . Lol it ain't kia It's Bavarian Motor Works .
(IMO) In a word no..... Considering what can be built for half the money in one's own garage, adding you have control of what it is and know what you are getting.
I would Mustangs especially the Track Pack GT's, GT350, GT500, Mach 1, older gen Boss 302's for sure. The Nissan Z is promising. HONDA's Civic Type R's are cool but not for me. But I'm a fan of 90's JDM cars and 60 70 and 80's domestic classic cars.
ive heard so many people say they hate the look of these, they look awesome. All the curves and that kind of design language remind me of the rx7 spirit, probably the best looking car imo
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Lexus RC series. My bro just bought a RC 350 and I'm too jealous of it
Would love to compare a 340i manual to Dakota's Supra in terms of feeling and satisfaction when driving
The intro music is Amazing!!
I've managed to never have a car payment (which has kind of ruined me), by buying "mechanics specials" or rebuilt titles, so I can't imagine starting now.
That said...I'd save up and drop 5-7k on a ratty 350 or a flood title c5/frs over a $450 payment on a new supra/etc for the next "x" years.
Then again...I'm a cheap ba$tard who happily puts around in a $1,000 1989 wagovan as a daily :D
Well Dakota hadn't ever done a launch in his car so I felt it was appropriate to do it for him. Don't judge me!!
😂😂😂 you did great chief. Now do it again. 👀 -Edgar
Alex, you with fitment or on your own or guest staring or what?!
@@gregorygregory6347 he has a video on his page about it!
We miss Alex he got into detail crazy actually learned a lot from him
I LOVE that the Fitment guys take the time to read and heart literally all of the comments. By far the most engaging and most creative car pages on YT
🤝🫶🏻
The G42 m240i is actually fairly affordable when compared to the cars it competes with. As usual BMW underquoted the power. When people have lined it up with other cars it's performed amazingly.
Outperforms or matches cars that its not supposed to compete with, like the rs3
Car prices are affordable if work wages increase and dealer mark ups were eliminated. Prices in the used car market will never go back to how it used to be. In two years I predict a 15% increase on all taxes.
As car guys we love to hate on cars we see as the competition which is why certain cars are hated on. I don’t think that’ll ever change, but the more sports cars we get the happier I am as a consumer
It’s slow but I miss my little 07 Tiburon. Was very fun for what it had. Loved it so much I replaced the transmission twice
Twice?! What happened there? -Edgar
I always loved those cars. Wish Hyundai would have made them RWD.
@@mickeymang6 genesis coupe 🤓
@@Dragon228833 I know. I just liked the Design of them
Definitely waiting for the third pedal. Cross-shopping a very short list of the Z, the Supra, and the new M2 (forthcoming). Manual only. My biggest concern is the non-tunability of the new model (for now - BMW always locks down their ECUs since about 2010 and they all eventually get cracked).
Regardless of being a Toyota/BMW mixed project they are still beautiful cars(I think I need one haha). Plus my RHD S14 is a 5spd, so yeah there is that. Cheers FI team 👍😎👍.
I agree! I think credit is due for Toyota in terms of bringing back the “Supra” name - regardless of being built by BMW. The fact that they are able to give the community an in-line 6, turbocharged sports car with an incoming manual transmission is something that we need to thank Toyota for. 🙏🏻
The new supra is mad ugly. Can’t get over the goofy look
@@rudySTi you alone on that one, everybody and they momma know it’s heat 😮💨😮💨
@@WhipItSBreezy nah everyone I know thinks it ain’t it
@@rudySTi you must be your only friend
Off topic, but seeing this makes me miss my 1985 Supra mk3 lol. I honestly liked that more blocky look of the mk3 over the curvy mk4 and mk5.
Get anotha one!
I've already got one. LE #441/1500. Just a catless dp and a tune, and I'm at 450/520 under 3k rpm. Car is amazing!
with these gas prices ion think cars are even worth the price
I was wondering the same thing. 🤔
@@leopardcat9 🤣
Good electric cars that are similar are too expensive
I love the look. But oddly I prefer the relative simplicity of the 2022 BRZ/86. This is a far nicer car but I like the minimalism of the BRZ. That said I'd totally autocross one of these and make it earn it's keep.
minimalism and completely anemic drivetrain lol.
David I am with you I agree
Hey that anemic drive train can be switched out. You can get a GR 86 and put a supra drive train or super charge original engine and see how anemic it is
@@GOLD_FEVER Over rated mods for my purposes. I wanted a sports car not a muscle car.
@@aroundomaha What is your definition of muscle or sports car then? Because with low hp figures and low torque it sounds to me that all you want is a tight suspension and a manual gearbox.... I mean 228 hp is not THAT bad , especially for a lighter vehicle ... but you have stuff like a 350 or 370z or a sk2000 or hell even a slightly used porsche or corvette that just blow it out of the water in every performance metric except price... Tastes are subjective i guess. Not everybody wants perfection.
Looks like it rides really well for it's fitment! He must have put some nice coils on it.
Ayyyy Alex is here. Love to see it 🥹🥹
I'm glad Dakota's GR Supra is finally featured. I love my A91 Special Edition Supra and it's a blast to drive, especially with an upgraded Pure800 turbo. 😃
🤝🤝🤝 -Edgar
Ive been obsessed with the new z since i saw the proto and its a car i think id keep forever so the price isnt a comcern to me , same goes for the 2012 zl1
Best financial advice get a zl1 for now its used and already depreciated however the z car is brand new and hasn't depreciated yet which based on past z cars it will depreciate badly
I WILL buy the RX-9 when it comes out. No matter fucking WHAT.
@@JohnSmith-yl8sg are they actually doing that?
@@djpollo2474 - No confirmation. We never have any confirmation of this. I just keep my hopes up 😔
@Ethan Glinsky - Same as you. I'll keep it forever, and price isn't a concern to me. (If they ever release the Mazda RX-9)
I hope auto trans tanks once the 6 speed comes out, I’ll happily buy one for cheap 💯
Man if corona virus shortages didn’t totally destroy the used car market we would be able to pick up a used 3.0 in the mid to low 40k all day. But no, it costs the same to get a new Supra than a 2020 with 15k miles on it
I doubt it because auto will beat manual and peoples ego dont like to lose races lol
@@jaimatic23 Faster doesn't matter. If it did, there are faster cars than the Supra for less money. Manual transmissions are more engaging, thus more fun. THAT'S what driving a sports car is all about: Fun. If you're going to drive an automatic, might as well buy an SUV.
@@Bl00dwerK i will guarantee you that you cant name ONE CAR thats faster than the supra mod for mod thats ether the same price or cheaper !!! Its obviously you never drove one , it’s because your stuck in the past when autos were slush boxes . You mean to tell me its more “FUN” to shift 12 gears on a 18 wheeler than a F1 car banging through 8 gears !
@@jaimatic23 Miata
Got a 18’ 370z sport manual for 25k, 6k miles in 2020. Awesome value in my opinion!
I was in the “rebadged BMW” crowd but I’ve come around.
Once I hand my FRS down to my son I hope to pick up one of the manual Supras coming down the line
I’d love to have that car, it’s my most coveted modern car, 400z will be a close second
Dakota's Supra in particular is probably the best 5th gen Supra build I've ever seen so far
It truly is a great looking car! He did well with it. -Edgar
2023 Prius is the way to go. $5 gallon here in IL now.
$10 a gallon of diesel here in the UK. Used to cost me, from empty with premium diesel, $106 to fill up. It now costs me, with standard non premium diesel $125. Think I might start walking 26 miles to work. Would be cheaper than sleep and drive lmao
I daily stick and I love it and the only way I would ditch it for an automatic is for a new car like that. I would rather have the auto in that car because I want to take full advantage of how fast it can shift and how fast the car is paddleshifters are also more then enough if I still feel the need to shift.
Planning to purchase a Manual Supra when they’re released. 👏🏻
Good video m8, I agree with practically everything you're saying.
Short answer is that no car is worth it with today’s market
Can't wait for the manual to come out so I can afford the automatic.
Wait, no, still can't afford it 🤤
After everything I've seen and read over the years on the internet, I've come to the conclusion that "car enthusiasts" actually hate cars and just prefer to nitpick and trash them.
Nowadays, we’re just paying for the Tech in cars. Just let me connect my phone and that’s it. Don’t need the HUD, digital displays, or driving modes really.
Literally this. I got my ‘15 gla45 amg for $29k cause it has no tech and the ‘17+ ones with car play, etc start at $40k. I swapped the screen for 500$ and have the same car lmao
Literally this is it. I don’t need any fancy pants screens and digital displays and “rear view parking cam” like bro I know how to drive. I know how to park. I don’t need a stupid camera that’s what mirrors and turning around are for. Just give me Bluetooth so I can listen to music when I can’t unleash the music of the engine and we’re good
How does that front lip survive the Wisconsin pot holes? Our roads are terrible here lol
Angling homie, we angle! haha 😅 -Edgar
Hot take. "Rebadged BMW" Even at that, you know it'll be a good drivers car. And in my eyes, that's actually anything but bad.
great review alex
No, esp with inflation. Used cars are approaching new car costs.
How do you keep the paint that nice???
Taco Bell Diablo sauce, thats how Dakota keeps 'er nice and pristine. -Edgar
I moved from dallas to nyc so dont need a car. I still feel like buying the manual supra and leaving it at parents garage for when i visit😅
So is this a video recorded a month ago or is Alex just helping film stuff?
Hes still hanging around with us for some stuff. So this is recent! -Edgar
Mud guards. Those carbon fiber boxes next to the diffuser are called mud guards
I believe they're also called spats? I've heard a ton of names for them! -Edgar
Personally I like infinity war more than endgame so comparing it to that just made me want to get it even more lol
I get flack for owning a KIA Stinger because "It's just a KIA." But I honestly don't care, best purchase I made and don't regret it. May not be the FASTEST but I didn't buy it for speed. I researched it, I looked at the aftermarket support, I KNEW what issues I could be running into and so obviously I KNOW what I purchase & what I was getting myself into. To this day, 2 years now of owning the Stinger, I still do not regret my purchase. It still gives me the same excitement every time I get in and drive it and it feels absolutely amazing to drive.
Wait, is Alex back at fitment industry’s?
He’s just hanging out still! He’s doing filming for videos. 🤘🏾 -Edgar
Is called a Salgado top or something like that it’s an Italian last name the guy worked for pina frina in 60’s and put them on race cars for tall drivers helmets
if only there was a way to buy a vent kit to make them real vents! :P
Sawzall..? Do we hear custom?! -Edgar
soon as the manual comes out, im insta buying it
I love the supra, but the issue i have is i tried to sit in one at an auto show, and at 6'6 300 pounds i just didnt fit
Really random but how would you find out the best brand car engine oil for your car ?
Honestly I would check forums for your car!
I enjoy the fact that both Supra and Z4 owners are embarrassed to be associated with the other.
Good production outside your studio 😛
Hey thanks there chief! 🙌🙌 -Edgar
That was THE coldest opening I’ve ever seen/heard.
❄️❄️❄️ -Edgar
yes and no brand new vs markups made it like why bother not paying for a up to date one but honestly i woudlnt know i rather stick to a good 5k ebike and save for right time
Sooo is Alex back then? He went back to his old IG handle I see. But regardless definitely dig this segment
Hes still hanging around with us! -Edgar
Nice to finally see that car on a sunny day! :)
☀️☀️☀️ -Edgar
waiting for the manual, got half of the DP saved up, ready for next year haha.
i have a 2022 and the lights inside are orange at night, during the day its white lol
Oh word?! I wonder if they did any changes with it.. I'll have to ask Dakota about his 2020! -Edgar
The new Z is worth the price @40k , not sure about the supra @55k
i'm not sure if i like the front bumper, but the rest is seamless
I think supras are probably one of the most pretty new sports cars out there right now but as someone who worked on them at a Toyota dealer I can tell you right now that they are an absolute nightmare to maintain and once these are 10 years old and very high mileage they are going to be a ticking time bomb of expensive repairs everything is everything is annoying and a bunch of extra steps are needed to work on anything.
Was planning to get one and it’s the only thing stopping me. I hate maintenance nightmares where I fix one thing and something else Fs up
Video came out perfect timing, I just sold my f10 M5. Thinking about getting one of these, don’t know if I wanna pull the trigger on another automatic with paddle shifts. Rn it’s between a new Supra, gr corolla (if I can get my hands on one), or a 2015 evo x FE . I’d be getting the evo for 30k so that’s more ideal
All great choices! -Edgar
I'll be picking up a third pedal one
Tl:DR of my opinion: Not yet, markups are bloody insane and the increase in loans apr are not great sadly.
Tl: SDR: Eventually it'll be worth it, but we have no idea when that'll be.
Im getting that 3rd pedal
Im waiting on the 3rd pedal but i been debating getting an e46 m3 cuz they keep goin up in price
E46's are definitely a great car. Cant go wrong with either! -Edgar
🔥🔥🔥 Alex never misses
Hes still having fun! -Edgar
You had better use a good ceramic coat wax on the carbon fiber , because the sun will beat the he'll out of it , it happened to mine I was passed.
I thought you left Fitment? So you back?
Hes still hanging around with us for some videos! -Edgar
Alright we just need driver to driver now
👀👀👀 -Edgar
2:40 CAN be boosted?? Tf they're factory boosted lol maybe u meant the DME can be unlocked and tuned therefore able to turn UP the boost? 🤷♂️
"Since its a 2020, it can be boosted it can be tuned, which is great".
I’m just glad not many like the Supra my dealership was (Supra) helpful in getting me hooked up with allocation for the manual 2023 model. Orders were crazy for the gr Corolla and they told me how Supras sit there for months because no one wants em
Did they say when they think you’ll get your 23 model? I put an order in as well
@@cesun5452 no word, it’s gonna be a while as prices haven’t hit us yet. If I were to guess it’d probly be late this year early next year with supply chain issues. depending on how many cars can get allocated in your region.
I'll wait for the third pedal, then wait about 5 more years for the price to go down a bit LOL
Obviously I love this Supra
3rd Pedal for sure
I wonder if Alex has drove a m2 or m2 competition yet?
He sure has! Hes driven Lar's here at the shop. Hes familiar with them! -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries I figured. I almost got the supra in 2020 . Couldn't find one very easily. I ended up with a 20 m2 comp . It's the only car I've liked as much as my old turbo 89 325is ( 10yrs ago).
I just remembered Alex has an e30 so I knew deep down he didn't mind a bmw crossbreed . I don't understand why people are upset about (for me )one of the best inline 6 manufacturers making the motor for the supra . Lol it ain't kia
It's Bavarian Motor Works .
I’ve just picked mine up over the weekend and I love it! The fact it’s an auto hasn’t bothered me at all, which I thought it might off
Trade it in for manual when they come out this year if it's Is that important
I thought tio alex isn’t at fitment anymore?
Alex left his CMO position, but still makes content with us.
Thought you left fitment industries?
He’s still filming and hanging out! He still likes us :) -Edgar
Alex' last one liner metaphor 😭
(IMO) In a word no..... Considering what can be built for half the money in one's own garage, adding you have control of what it is and know what you are getting.
I mean ya it’s not just a Toyota but who wouldn’t want a bmw Toyota hybrid? Sounds like long lasting performance to me😂
You know? I think I'd wait for the 3rd pedal +5 years so the price drops if I don't end up with the new Z instead
Would you own one of these over a nicely built Evo 8/9?
Evo every day
Papa Alex came back from getting milk…..guess the store was right across the street lol
He'll be coming back and forth from getting milk at the store to dairy farms!.. Wont be always, but hey. -Edgar
I thought Alex had moved on from FI? Maybe this is an old pre-recorded video?
Alex left his CMO position, but still makes content with us.
@@FitmentIndustries I'm glad I'll still see him around on here.
I’m waiting for the third pedal supra 😂😌
Title is misleading but still ended up watching a good video.
2020 Supra is a re-badged BMW. Jury still out on the Supra with a 3rd pedal.
Really? It Is? Wow, that's the first I have ever heard that. Does everybody else know?!?
I thought Alex was done with fitment industries
He’s still hanging around doing videos with us! -Edgar
I would Mustangs especially the Track Pack GT's, GT350, GT500, Mach 1, older gen Boss 302's for sure. The Nissan Z is promising. HONDA's Civic Type R's are cool but not for me. But I'm a fan of 90's JDM cars and 60 70 and 80's domestic classic cars.
if i were to buy a euro-jdm car, i’d get an AMG Galant😄
AMG Galant?! -Edgar
ive heard so many people say they hate the look of these, they look awesome. All the curves and that kind of design language remind me of the rx7 spirit, probably the best looking car imo
Is there an aftermarket component to replace the fake vents with a piece of plastic or metal to complete the body line with factory colors?
He might have left but he's not gone fitments still got that rx-7 keeping him in the yard
👀👀👀 -Edgar
"New cars" but only talked about the supra? I was expecting more cars
I mean.. he did drive say the Supra was the focus on today! 👀 -Edgar
Fair enough
9:30 think alex means “ALOT OF BMW PARTS”
BM DUBAYOTA! -EDGAR
Spats! Dakota probs called them spats 3:52
Yall be milkin the videos with Alex you still got😂👌
Nope, hes just coming in to record and hang out still! No milking involved. 🐄🐄 -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries true true. Love all you guys! Incredible content! Keep it up👌
As an irresponsible 20 year old
YES!!!!!
I thought you left FI?
Hes still recording some videos with us every once in a while! -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries cool cool
I just wanna say one thing infinty war > endgame
Oh man.. that’s tough.. infinity war was a wild time! -Edgar
no you right, infinity war > endgame. 100% agree with that - steve the video editor
Kinda confused bc it’s automatic but it’s got paddle shifters…