Working 8 hours per day is not normal.
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- Working 8 hours per day may not be as normal as you think. Learn about the impact on cognitive energy, focus, and overall happiness in this video. Practice self-awareness and mindfulness to optimize your workday!
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This topic is fascinating. society doesn't need most people to work 8 hours a day. And it doesn't even need us to work the same job year-round. That's more cultural than necessary. In fact, we're working long and hard and to destroy ourselves and our future. If we consumed less and produced less the Earth could recover and so could we. Who knows how we might grow with more time, autonomy and cooperation?
Yeah that's right, we need to destroy tik tok and other short form's.
I love this comment... This is what it is about. Collective thinking that brings improvement to the current circumstances. I couldn't agree more, as we have built a system around work overtime that isn't conducive to how humans should be able to perform in a work setting. We should aim, like you said, to consume and produce less, but the difficult part is having that idea resonate with the grander public. But I love the idea of cooperation, we need each other to make this work. Thanks so much for the comment!
science = "the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained."
Social science absolutely is measurable.
I agree with you that it is measurable. Where a lot of people would disagree is when we would say that it is as measurable as the hard sciences, ergo the discussion whether social sciences can be seen as real "science". Nonetheless, I believe in social sciences as being part of the world of science in their own right.
Thank you for speaking up. Subscribed. This is how the system changes, by defining it and questioning it
Thank you so much for the support and for contributing to the discussion. Let's all make things happen! :)
I work as a PhD student in engineering. It's the same for me, it doesn't make sense to work for 8 hour days. I do get a lot out of going to the office and discussing things with coworkers, but doing so for 8 hours straight would be impossible. Even with breaks it is hard to do deep work consistently after some time.
I couldn't agree more! It is very inefficient if we look at the overall levels of cognitive performance we are able to output per day. In most cases, this comes nowhere near 8h per day. Thank you so much for the contribution!
China: casually releases state of the art LLM as a side project
Meanwhile Europe: this guy
That's why we're heading for irrelevance.
For sure it's not cool to work 8, 12, 14 hours a day.
It is exhausting.
But it's certainly possible and definitely CAN be more efficient.
I feel like you're excusing your desire for comfort. You don't have to. Embrace it. It's okay.
Although China's performance in this context could be seen as "better", we also have to look at the quality of life. Like you said, it's definitely possible to work 8 or more hours per day, even in an efficient way, but this is not true for the bigger part of the world population because our brains just couldn't keep up with this way of working. Is it really so bad to try and think of ways of working that could be more conducive to how our brains and bodies work? I am not advocating for comfort, rather for meaningful change in how we approach work.
@@Lurning-Curve And this is a noble cause. I get that. I think fighting for better QoL for everyone is a great thing to do. The problem is that while we're focused on that we're losing the position to change anything meaningful. That's because others are optimizing for profit and innovation rather for the good of their people. At the end of the day might makes the right in the world and there's no way around it. The stronger will always have it their own way. We were just very lucky the stronger during the last century were representing decent values.
Yea, your reasoning here is good. The intentions are pure. But to just demand this when Europe is already falling behind is kinda... childish?
[things people tell themselves to justify why thwy hate what they do instead of finding something that fulfills them]
Sometimes doing what fulfills somebody doesn’t pay the bills. You’ll go poor chasing your dream if it doesn’t make you money off the bat; some people are not willing to make that risk… rightfully so.
@freddythescnd you seem to be assuming that fulfillment is only possible by chasing a dream job that requires either self-started entrepeneurship or low-to-no paying grunt work, and that simply isn't the case. There are plenty of decent paying careers that could be rewarding to tons of people if it wasn't for so much of society's inherent mindset to hate school and work - insisting that school is a waste of time then slacking off because of it only builds habits that carries over into the workplace in adulthood.
Bottom line, my original point is that people only think 8hrs is bs because they hate work. Making it 5 or 6 might feel like a massive relief for some time but would eventually still expose the same core hatred and lack of work ethic for a lot of people.
Until that core issue is addressed...coupled with the large degree that, YES, tons of companies and corporations do exploit employees and use them expendably...then the length of the workday is going to be largely irrelevant.
[throws away soapbox]
Thank you for your comment. I understand that this video came across as just complaining, but the deeper point of the video is that it is not conducive to how human brains work to set a time on how much mental energy you should use per day. If you feel capable or excited to work 8 or more hours a day, then that's the ideal situation and I would optimise for that. However, not everyone always has the opportunity to do work that fulfils them. Besides, I am not at all advocating that I hat work. I just don't believe, based on the recent research, that this is the most optimal way of going about work in a creative capacity.
I agree with the fact that hating school or work is a core issue that needs to be solved. But that can only be solved if we recognise that society pushes people into jobs that they don't like to begin with. Work should be accompanied by a feeling of fulfilment in the context of feeling proud to be able to mean something to society. Sadly, that dynamic is completely gone in today's age, because we are just small pieces of charcoal that keep the engine running. I want nothing less than a future where everyone can work on things that bring them fulfilment. But how society is scructured currently, that is nowhere near the case. The value scale of work has completely shifted over the past few centuries. And not agreeing with 8h work days is not always because of a hatred towards work. The neuroscientific research tells us that this is not conducive to optimal workflow.
@@Chrisratata to go along with the comment above mine, I agree that the shortening of time will not help the major problem of disliking work and the system that causes this to be what must be endured… however, the assumption of fulfillment coming from a dream job in general was never a sentiment I shared. Fulfillment can come from anything-hobbies like art or music, creating family dynamics, even just experiencing new parts of life or therapy. My points stems from the fact that putting whatever percentage of physical, mental, and financial capabilities towards reaching certain goals within the field of your choosing can be a risk for living a stable life. It was never the amount of work time that I was focused on cause every real goal is gonna take a good amount of time to work to it… it’s about the trade-off you have to consider of it not working out
good luck fixing this lol
the 8 hour work day is just one aspect out of a thousand of modernity that are totally hostile to human psychology
I agree! Maybe it will not get fixed anytime soon, but at least people are somewhat becoming aware of this. Thanks for your comment!
Champagne socialists do not speak for the working class.
Sincerely,
/Working class member
I am very sorry that you feel this way.
my friend, stop working for NGOs with bloated budgets who rely on idealistic interns who want to help humanity to do all the work while the high level administrators have it easy with comfy paychecks
Waking up more and more to that idea. Thanks for your comment!
If we can get rid of Capitalism and focus on social welfare and healthy mental being, we won't have this system. Unfortunately, some of us are greedy and want to be the richest.
Exactly. Although I see merit in any system we put in place, the gap between materialism and minimalism is too big and there's way too much nuance for us to find a sustainable and widespread solution to this problem.
@@Lurning-Curve like in USA top1 percent owns more than bottom 90 percent. World is full with super broke people
Maybe I missed it cuz u stopped at 5:18 but complaining about a problem without giving a solution is pointless.
I agree with you that 8 hours work days suck. But in terms of entertainment the video disconnects to me because I didn't get to solution and there was no other information that made me go "wait what?" To re spark my curiosity to continue watching.
I'm very sorry to hear that, maybe I should work on making the video a bit shorter. And I understand what you are saying, as it was more of a rant video. Although I don't give a concrete solution, I do talk about how research shows that this system is not sustainable at all, prompting us to question whether there are better ways to go about it. This is still something I am thinking about. I do mention, towards the end of the video, that it is possible for us to be happy without material success through mindfulness and self-awareness training, as there is enough proof to support that it is possible. But other than that, I am still not aware of any sustainable and widespread solution to the problem. I want to thank you for giving my video a shot though, and I really appreciate the feedback! I can work on this to make it more entertaining in the future :)
The first part to finding a solution is recognizing the problem. And it's easier to do so that to find a solution. Usually it's a collective process rather than an individual coming up with the ultimate solution. Feel free to give your opinion.
@FlameHashiraAries You nailed it bro
Why is it necessary that people work at 100% capacity throughout the entire work day? Many (if not all) jobs require employees to complete tasks that do not require 100% full focus and attention. Assuming your stats are correct, it seems reasonable to ask someone to work for 4 hours with full focus on important tasks and then use the other 4 hours to complete less intensive work.
Also at the end you come across without much humility when you say that we don't do enough work to figure out better ways of working. It's almost as if you're the first person to discover that work is hard for people. Many self employed people, entrepreneurs, athletes, and company owners have a huge stake in understanding how to structure their time and the time of anyone they hire or work with.
Absolutely true. That's a good point! It is by no means my intention to act more enlightened than anyone else, just voicing my thoughts as they come up. You gave me some food for thought, and for that, I am thankful.
Welcome to capitalism brother! None of this makes any sense. I recommend catching up with some Marxists. They tend to be a bit wacky but their explanations of this kinds of stuff are the only ones that don't make you feel like a crazy person.
Thank you for your comment! I might have to look into that, yes!
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Thanks for your comment!
I would check your situation my guy. Sitting for 8 hours a day doing work is definitely not the must productive system for performance (Evidence and scientifically) However, Take a moment to check your position in this world... Go do construction/blue collar/labor work. Not only is their work physically harder, their situation is infinitely worse over the long term. (physical debilitation and disease). I listened to this and heard a person who has frustrations with the system. We all are. Enjoy your job when you can, understand that work is hard... work is work. It's not pleasant all the time. The way you deliver your points is a struggle to hear because it just sounds like a young person whining about how hard work is.
My situation bad therefore other people’s bad situations are good
Then let's make it better for those people too rather than being conformist just because others have it worse.
its people like you that will keep us all as slaves. Crabs in a bucket mentality. Let these young people wake up so that their future can be better.
Hard work /= smart work
Your point is well taken, but the more people in privileged positions such as the person in the video who are advocating for work reform, the greater the possibility of actual systemic change that would help workers with more physically demanding jobs
You are right I work 12 hours and also have a side gig.8 hours is too little of work in a day.
That sacrifice isn’t for everybody
@@freddythescnd What sacrifice i enjoy every minute of my work .
@@butros5137 some people’s personalities or enjoyment of life is attached to one’s job. That isn’t the case for everybody though. Maybe someone wants to use that time for something else they enjoy but may not be able to due to whatever circumstances they got going on
I love your comment! Honestly, the more we can create paradigms where people gladly work 8 or more hours a day in a job that they love, the closer we come to a sustainable solution.
Love this comment! I couldn't agree more with you here. It has a lot to do with priorities and what you want your life to look like. Everyone rather focuses on the things that bring them joy or fulfilment, and that can change from person to person. You nailed it!
What are your thoughts on Universal basic income?
There's merit to the thought, but I don't have enough awareness of what impact this could have on a global scale. A lot of innovation and improvement is driven by money, so taking away this factor could also be detrimental to the growth of humanity. I shall give this more thought. You sparked my interest.
Looking at the preview, I thought it's a woman.
Amazing haha