I can 100% see an animated short film about a pilot who wants to earn his heart badge on his Legionnaire but things go sideways and he and his copilot have to adapt to a worsening situation. Maybe pirates attack or the vanduul start a small incursion near them. Random thoughts.
@@AcheliusDecimus they have not missed anything. The game is still in its infancy :) Lots of stories can be told in the future and I think CIG knows that
When I first saw this ship, I was a bit dismissive of it because I saw "boarding craft" and it made me think of vehicles like the Hoplite and the Prowler and how I haven't really seen anyone use these vehicles the way they were intended to be used. I assumed it was nothing new, and when I think about how you are supposed to use ships like that, I always remember the clunkiness of EVA in the game and the transitions between ship and space (although it's a lot better now) and it's kinda hard to imagine it being effective or practical in combat. But this ship is actually something completely different, and WAY more interesting to me. I like this concept a lot. This can be a really useful tool, and it's one of the cooler looking ships I've seen.
I want a more civilian variant where it has more storage and less seats. maybe expanded rear hatch area. However i can definitely seeing this being a favorite drop ship if nothing else. It could be the cutlass but more dedicated to its crew actually surviving the trip. I could see this also being a favorite for stealth boarding depending on how the hacking countermeasures is going to work in the game
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'hey pirates, im docking on your ship, btw could you like not move for a minute so i can go in? thankyou'' -UEE boarding shuttle engineer explaining how boarding actions with the new ''goofy aah'' model boarding ship will go
”go ahead boarding ship. Not that we could really go anywhere with our engines disabled by the distorsion weapons of your support fighters" - The pirates crew preparing the weapons to welcome the boarding party
I like the look and a boarding craft is surely needed for the near future. But u am more excited by idea of SAR variant. Sort of firetruck in space. But IAM a sucker for civilian gameplay.
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I think the, by far, best civilian use for this ship will probably be salvage. Specifically, salvage of less-than-completely-trashed ships. Instead of wrecking them more and having open more holes to get inside, you could just dock and force the airlock open without destroying it. Then, depending on the conditions of the derelict, take the valuable stuff and leave the hull for later scrapping or fix it up enough for it to limp to the nearest space station and sell it. Basically Duskers gameplay but 3D and without drones 😅
Looking forward to the legionnaire. I hope one day that when we finally have the capital ships with interiors in game the arlington, xenothreat and nien tails lockdown missions will be updated so that we can soft death the cap ships, send over a boarding crew on legionnaires fight our way deck through deck to capture the bridge commander to hand them in to security services for a larger pay bonus.
Pacifist that is willing compromise will find himself negotiating only half a beheading after he has lost everything else to a sufficiently insistent adversary.
Wait, you're telling me that the UEE Marines failed to use their boarding craft properly, but the pirates pulled off a picture-perfect op with them the NEXT DAY? That's not an equipment issue, that's a (tactical) skill issue
Boarding torpedoes shouldn't be that hard to pull off tbh. All you need is the tech to shoot the mustang cargo crates at the enemy with a promixity triggered dismantling that just leaves the occupants flying in space, so they can try and manually make it aboard the vessel. Trying to bore through the hull is more complicated.
yo! if youre open to criticism, say when you put an image on the screen, maybe place a title or say what the image shows so that if it is relevant to the current section of the story, the audience is made aware. just so we dont match image with something else, works to create confusion.
Jump Point from June of 2022, sadly CIG has it behind a pay wall but I know there are some people who post them for free. It's in Jump Point Issue 10-6.
I love the lore, but that ship is going to be a terrible ship to board with. Funneling all your troops through one hallway is a good way to get everyone killed. One asshat with a grenade launcher will ruin your day since it clips through cover. Its more of a "customs inspection" ship than a boarding ship. A true boarding ship can make entrances where there aren't supposed to be entrances.
That's a completely moronic scenario that will never happen, especially when you do boarding action with a disabled ship in space since it will kill both the boarder and boarded via explosive decompression. What you fail to understand is when designing any spacecraft to not have weight when you don't need it is the cardinal holy grail rules, which resulted in spacecraft usually have very barebone armoring that's necessary to fulfill its design intentions, which in return to avoid accidentally punching holes through spacecraft's hulls you use less powerful firearms for boarding action (The Expanse in particular explain and demonstrate this pretty well where breaching pods personnel usually use weapon that can't punch thought spaceship's hulls). Which is why grenade launcher-armed anti boarding party scenario is completely moronic in the first place, such weapon of such power not only way too overpowered for the purpose, but it's explosive payload pose significant risk of punching thought spacecraft's hulls, which in turn very likely to explosively spaced & killed both parties involved.
I have a couple of these I love the design and idea of them. I plan to use them for several things including but not limited to, Salvaging to enter derelict ships, medical rescue and evac, as a general shuttle and obviously it has its place in delivering "Resource Relocation Representatives" to their intended goal. 😏
Sadly the Legionnaire is a horrendous design in its current form. No way would a military craft manufacturer make a boarding ship like this. The long passage walkway attachment point is ludicrous. Do you think SAS board planes using the walkway ramps? 😂🤣😂 A fast maneuverable dropship that can allow EVA attachment or a ship that can bore/drill/cut through a hull is a more logical approach. Having the Legionnaire to run hacking also makes no sense, boarders would not use a ships airlocks as an entry point that are too easy to defend from inside and would bottleneck any boarding operation. All the current Legionnaire design shows is that CIG have no clue what they are doing.
LOL dude false equivalency much? 1. The walkway has barriers along it for cover. 2. Boarding a plane that is stationary on a tarmac in atmo and gravity is an entirely different proposition than boarding a ship in space. The same can be said for boarding a ship moving at sea. It's a shit comparison. 3. Cool, you want to cut a hole in the side of the target ship? How long is it going to take you to cut through multiple layers of armor, hull metal and structure? What happens when you go through something you shouldn't? How do you keep the atmosphere in? 4. Boarding is hard and dangerous, it is CQB in the worst way, that's why you have tactics and devices to help give you an edge. Capital ships and stations and eventually asteroid facilities have multiple airlocks to choose from, and you could easily deploy multiple teams. The entire design of the Legionnaire is to allow rapid deployment and entry and reduce the time for a defender to react. 5. Further, this is ONE SHIP, and it isn't the only way to conduct boarding. EVA and breaching/sabotage is still a thing, this is what the Prowler is designed for. This just suits the needs of the UEE based on their strategies, tactics and mission parameters.
@@tree0311 it's a space game with aliens.... Using a walkway to board is stupid. Maybe they will put hand rails on it and an escalator 🤣😂 How long to melt an unshielded hull? Didn't take long in the movie " Matrix " No way would a bunch of soldiers inch their way up a 2 meter wide corridor. Sheesh even castles had spiral staircases... Boarders would get cut down where they stand. Barriers? Lol sure, where? Let's make a bottleneck in our own boarding ship...Clever 🤣😂🤣 Another dumpster design from CIG Polish me another turd why don't you.
Yes in an ideal world we would cut a hole through the hull but CIG have stated that this will never be possible. Access to a ship will only ever be possible via airlocks & doors and (later) we might be able to blow turrets off. You are right that is going to make a nasty killing zone but hopefully CIG will come up with something to mitigate that eg the ability to launch multiple stun grenades from safe cover before rushing the defenders, maybe the shaped breaching charges will cause lethal spalling in a wide area beyond the airlock. Maybe with a couple of Legionnaires one can simultaneously open all the ramps and hatches while one inserts assault troops directly into the cargo bay so there is virtually no EVA and you have two co-ordinated assaults.
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I can 100% see an animated short film about a pilot who wants to earn his heart badge on his Legionnaire but things go sideways and he and his copilot have to adapt to a worsening situation. Maybe pirates attack or the vanduul start a small incursion near them. Random thoughts.
I honestly think this is a missed opportunity by CIg
@@AcheliusDecimus they have not missed anything. The game is still in its infancy :)
Lots of stories can be told in the future and I think CIG knows that
When I first saw this ship, I was a bit dismissive of it because I saw "boarding craft" and it made me think of vehicles like the Hoplite and the Prowler and how I haven't really seen anyone use these vehicles the way they were intended to be used. I assumed it was nothing new, and when I think about how you are supposed to use ships like that, I always remember the clunkiness of EVA in the game and the transitions between ship and space (although it's a lot better now) and it's kinda hard to imagine it being effective or practical in combat.
But this ship is actually something completely different, and WAY more interesting to me. I like this concept a lot. This can be a really useful tool, and it's one of the cooler looking ships I've seen.
Thank you for making that detailed look on the legionnaire. Its always fascinating to learn more about the lore of the ships in the game.
I find it hard to believe only 20k people like your lore videos.
We have to correct this wrong by force.
Your comment may have helped it come to my recommendation. You did good. So did you jared. I did good
@@ducktape4502 We all did good here. It feels good to do good.
Haven't you heard
Intellect is dead
I really hope CIG makes this ship worth having
I want a more civilian variant where it has more storage and less seats. maybe expanded rear hatch area. However i can definitely seeing this being a favorite drop ship if nothing else. It could be the cutlass but more dedicated to its crew actually surviving the trip. I could see this also being a favorite for stealth boarding depending on how the hacking countermeasures is going to work in the game
Thank you Lore-Master! I can't get enough lore and @TheAstroHistorian is a one stop repository! Thanks for all the time and effort you put into these. I'm really glad your channels have seen such growth. Well earned! 🍻
I do appreciate the quality put into these
Keep making these videos, its awesome to have some backstories on all the ships and bringing the star citizen game to life!!!
I am more excited for this channel to explode in popularity once the game is released than the game itself.
I grabbed one of these ships for my fleet for breaches but also for evacuating areas.
'hey pirates, im docking on your ship, btw could you like not move for a minute so i can go in? thankyou''
-UEE boarding shuttle engineer explaining how boarding actions with the new ''goofy aah'' model boarding ship will go
”go ahead boarding ship.
Not that we could really go anywhere with our engines disabled by the distorsion weapons of your support fighters"
- The pirates crew preparing the weapons to welcome the boarding party
Don’t sell your self short man your a big reason I got more into star citizen
Hi Paul, @6:30 tiny error. Great video. Thank You.
I like the look and a boarding craft is surely needed for the near future. But u am more excited by idea of SAR variant. Sort of firetruck in space. But IAM a sucker for civilian gameplay.
one of my favorite ship, it look very similar to the alliance serie of Elite Dangerous but even better
Lots in this one I hadn't heard before. Well researched as always!
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Thanks!
Nice, concise, and well paced!
Thanks for the awesome content. Knowing the lore really breathes life into the game
I think the, by far, best civilian use for this ship will probably be salvage. Specifically, salvage of less-than-completely-trashed ships.
Instead of wrecking them more and having open more holes to get inside, you could just dock and force the airlock open without destroying it.
Then, depending on the conditions of the derelict, take the valuable stuff and leave the hull for later scrapping or fix it up enough for it to limp to the nearest space station and sell it.
Basically Duskers gameplay but 3D and without drones 😅
What a wonderful video! And makes me even more excited to get my hands on my legionnaire in the future.
Awesome vid! When can we expect Complete History of Star Citizen Lore #4? I'm really looking forward to that!
Sometime End of May/June
Omg if only you could swap out those damn teases of the massive front parking sensors on the Cat for a quad of Deadbolt 6's...
Great job with the video thank you! I can't wait for this ship to be released
yes thanks for the Lore updates
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Star Citizen has so much potential, and honestly, even with how bad the servers have been, they're doing a great job.
Looking forward to the legionnaire. I hope one day that when we finally have the capital ships with interiors in game the arlington, xenothreat and nien tails lockdown missions will be updated so that we can soft death the cap ships, send over a boarding crew on legionnaires fight our way deck through deck to capture the bridge commander to hand them in to security services for a larger pay bonus.
Alright. You got a subscription, you magnificent bastard!
They took it off the store the day before I got paid but it's my next buy for sure.
i assume boarding in the SC universe requires the other ship to be incapacitated somehow right? im really curious about how this works
It looks a lot like the Alliance Chieftain from Elite Dangerous. I like the design. waiting for mine.
I like this ship because it can be used as a smaller drop ship as well
a pacifist that is unwilling or unable to fight is nothing but a coward. true pacifism requires the strength to defend one's ideals and community.
Pacifist that is willing compromise will find himself negotiating only half a beheading after he has lost everything else to a sufficiently insistent adversary.
i love this ship, it fits how i would play the game
Wait, you're telling me that the UEE Marines failed to use their boarding craft properly, but the pirates pulled off a picture-perfect op with them the NEXT DAY? That's not an equipment issue, that's a (tactical) skill issue
best use of skill issue I have seen.
Boarding a Caterpillar with hostile pirates vs boarding a Hull C laden with cargo are two VERY different things.
I am looking forward to this ship, although I kinda of wish there was a medical variant, remove the hacking, add 1-3 T3 beds for casualty recovery
Great video. Honestly, if i saw This first - when the Legionnaire released - it would have made me Buy one :D
This is from their Jump Point Article made well after the ship went on pre-sale.
can you do the bengal or
such a sexy looking ship tbh. Looks so believable
Why is Anvil Liberator on website a ship transporter and not what was described in this video?
Legionnaire is this video, Liberator is a different ship.
@@TheAstroHistorian Ah, my bad. Mis read
All good, I do it all the time so I can relate.
Gonna be honest, 8 dudes is pretty damn unimpressive boarding team because that's not even a full squad.
Should AT LEAST be 12 dudes.
Everyone is a pacifist... until you threaten their children. Beware of Momma bears ;-)
thank god we didnt get a flash bang ship the sun is already a flash bang in itself
You say that now...
Boarding torpedoes were mentioned, but not implemented 😢
Yeah it's not something that is likely to happen in game sadly. The closest we will get is the Nails.
Boarding torpedoes shouldn't be that hard to pull off tbh.
All you need is the tech to shoot the mustang cargo crates at the enemy with a promixity triggered dismantling that just leaves the occupants flying in space, so they can try and manually make it aboard the vessel.
Trying to bore through the hull is more complicated.
yo! if youre open to criticism, say when you put an image on the screen, maybe place a title or say what the image shows so that if it is relevant to the current section of the story, the audience is made aware. just so we dont match image with something else, works to create confusion.
What do you mean?
How did you even got these information about the The Legionaries lore? What source did you get it from ? Can you send me the link ?
Jump Point from June of 2022, sadly CIG has it behind a pay wall but I know there are some people who post them for free. It's in Jump Point Issue 10-6.
6:33 ... How many takes did it take to say that correctly
Strangely only once, but that's after saying it like 20 times over the last year
Increase in subs may be because no one can actually play SC atm. Lore is all we have, lol.
Loved the video and believable lore but... this is not official lore right?
No it's official, was taken from the Jump Point article on the ship.
I love the lore, but that ship is going to be a terrible ship to board with. Funneling all your troops through one hallway is a good way to get everyone killed. One asshat with a grenade launcher will ruin your day since it clips through cover. Its more of a "customs inspection" ship than a boarding ship. A true boarding ship can make entrances where there aren't supposed to be entrances.
That's a completely moronic scenario that will never happen, especially when you do boarding action with a disabled ship in space since it will kill both the boarder and boarded via explosive decompression.
What you fail to understand is when designing any spacecraft to not have weight when you don't need it is the cardinal holy grail rules, which resulted in spacecraft usually have very barebone armoring that's necessary to fulfill its design intentions, which in return to avoid accidentally punching holes through spacecraft's hulls you use less powerful firearms for boarding action (The Expanse in particular explain and demonstrate this pretty well where breaching pods personnel usually use weapon that can't punch thought spaceship's hulls).
Which is why grenade launcher-armed anti boarding party scenario is completely moronic in the first place, such weapon of such power not only way too overpowered for the purpose, but it's explosive payload pose significant risk of punching thought spacecraft's hulls, which in turn very likely to explosively spaced & killed both parties involved.
Boarding torpedo's
I have a couple of these I love the design and idea of them. I plan to use them for several things including but not limited to, Salvaging to enter derelict ships, medical rescue and evac, as a general shuttle and obviously it has its place in delivering "Resource Relocation Representatives" to their intended goal. 😏
I just hope it fits in the polaris
Did all this work and effort for the lore but truth be told there is no story because there is no damn game
Thanks for commenting on the video to promote the game more!
First
Sadly the Legionnaire is a horrendous design in its current form. No way would a military craft manufacturer make a boarding ship like this.
The long passage walkway attachment point is ludicrous.
Do you think SAS board planes using the walkway ramps? 😂🤣😂
A fast maneuverable dropship that can allow EVA attachment or a ship that can bore/drill/cut through a hull is a more logical approach.
Having the Legionnaire to run hacking also makes no sense, boarders would not use a ships airlocks as an entry point that are too easy to defend from inside and would bottleneck any boarding operation.
All the current Legionnaire design shows is that CIG have no clue what they are doing.
Sir, this is a whammers
LOL dude false equivalency much?
1. The walkway has barriers along it for cover.
2. Boarding a plane that is stationary on a tarmac in atmo and gravity is an entirely different proposition than boarding a ship in space. The same can be said for boarding a ship moving at sea. It's a shit comparison.
3. Cool, you want to cut a hole in the side of the target ship? How long is it going to take you to cut through multiple layers of armor, hull metal and structure? What happens when you go through something you shouldn't? How do you keep the atmosphere in?
4. Boarding is hard and dangerous, it is CQB in the worst way, that's why you have tactics and devices to help give you an edge. Capital ships and stations and eventually asteroid facilities have multiple airlocks to choose from, and you could easily deploy multiple teams. The entire design of the Legionnaire is to allow rapid deployment and entry and reduce the time for a defender to react.
5. Further, this is ONE SHIP, and it isn't the only way to conduct boarding. EVA and breaching/sabotage is still a thing, this is what the Prowler is designed for. This just suits the needs of the UEE based on their strategies, tactics and mission parameters.
@@tree0311 it's a space game with aliens....
Using a walkway to board is stupid.
Maybe they will put hand rails on it and an escalator 🤣😂
How long to melt an unshielded hull?
Didn't take long in the movie " Matrix "
No way would a bunch of soldiers inch their way up a 2 meter wide corridor.
Sheesh even castles had spiral staircases...
Boarders would get cut down where they stand.
Barriers? Lol sure, where? Let's make a bottleneck in our own boarding ship...Clever 🤣😂🤣
Another dumpster design from CIG
Polish me another turd why don't you.
Yes in an ideal world we would cut a hole through the hull but CIG have stated that this will never be possible. Access to a ship will only ever be possible via airlocks & doors and (later) we might be able to blow turrets off. You are right that is going to make a nasty killing zone but hopefully CIG will come up with something to mitigate that eg the ability to launch multiple stun grenades from safe cover before rushing the defenders, maybe the shaped breaching charges will cause lethal spalling in a wide area beyond the airlock. Maybe with a couple of Legionnaires one can simultaneously open all the ramps and hatches while one inserts assault troops directly into the cargo bay so there is virtually no EVA and you have two co-ordinated assaults.