I'm trying to get trained as a costume maker and designer but as a disabled person who cannot hold a job and is having to teach myself everything while being very very aware of how expensive just creating practice garments can be, is extremely stressful. The one community theatre i could have potentially volunteered at has shut and its heartbreaking because I have a deep love for arts and performance
In South Devon, there used to be an arts centre in a place called Seale Hayne. They used to have rehearsal rooms for bands and a recording studio. It was affordable and they had good equipment. I've played in several bands that practiced there. After I moved up North, it was closed as it stopped receiving arts funding from the government. Now, the closest places to practice are located in either Plymouth or Exeter, which can be much further depending on where you live.
Was it around Newton Abbott by any chance? I used to go to school in that area and heard about it but never went. Its such a shame that we lose so many of these venues where people are able to develop their skills, regardless of their experience. Newton Abbott, though there were some things I didn't like about it, had an amazing music scene.
No.... a large enough minority to be distorted into a majority by first past the post would vote for Thatcher today, not an actual majority of British people. And why? just look at our print media... and even some of the TV media.
Great video! Drama school emptied the reserves for me and there was never really any hope of sticking in London and pursuing a career! I felt like I was pretty good at it but it was very clear during training that the people succeeding (in most cases) were not worried about money. Sometimes I even felt scorned that I wasn’t in the know about every new show popping up on the west end, in reality they just weren’t always affordable. Glad to have had the experience, glad to have moved on from it
It's not how it happened. It how we stop it. Greed is out of control and that's the thing about greedy people, they never have enough., they will go on and on, shoveling money into the void that is their greed. And the result is homelessness, it's skipping meals, it's can't heat a home. And it's work till you die and nothing to live for.
Worked in security for films and T.V. for 20 yrs and have seen film workers come and go. What I noticed is the best way to enter it is by working for the locations department. Seen many do that, then make contacts and move to camera crews, sound, make up etc etc. Location jobs are probably the most simple to get. It's hard work and burn out is a regular result but it is still the best way in
I saw Marina Hyde on an old Charlie Brooker program, a while ago and noticed how she's 'commoned' down her accent in recent years. I guess the 'plummy' thing doesn't sell in the podcast world..
I don't know if this has caused fewer young people to be interested in the arts, as it could be because it's been priced out of the working class. But, as I went through school and university, I noticed less and less kids were interested in the arts, particularly music because that's where I was mostly. It could also be chalked up to the arts being seen as 'for girls' or 'gay', which is a whole other conversation. But another reason could be because there just isn't a drive to go into the arts as a career (me included, I went into STEM), as many people say there just isn't any money there. As much as I agree that the arts could be nationalised, I think there is a bigger conversation about how arts fit into society as a whole.
We saw a rise in the 2000s but a mass decrease recently. I think much of it also comes down to school funding cuts for arts. Money is a huge factor, and I don't believe nationalisation is the only way to fix it. I think art is a recreational thing, in which everyone should be involved in, but sometimes the arts have been treated as another method of “making a career out of it” when people should just be able to make stuff with a bit of resources for the community, rather than it having to be a commercial option. In the past, people mostly stumbled into the arts rather than it becoming a career choice when you are a kid. We need to get back to the stumbling but ensure there are many opportunities to get people to stumble into it. Just some thoughts. Feel free to say if I'm barking up the wrong tree!
@@DrJoeLovelace I do agree with that as well. Not everything needs to be a career and have its soul sucked out by capitalism. And, yeah, I did see the massive decline in funding as I went through school especially, as we had less arts teachers and music tutors by the time I left school. I do love the idea of stumbling into art, but I think that is a dream of the past because kids are just not exposed to the arts as much as they were used to. It's definitely a multi-faceted discussion around the accessibility of arts outside and within schools, but also about the perception and letting everyone know that the arts are for everyone and anyone who wishes to try it. I don't have a solution that answers it all, I wish I did because being exposed to music, in particular, became such an important part (and still is) of my life, and I would want to see that for others as they grow up. I think, as a start, just more opportunities for exposure, such as more school clubs, free events to try bashing some instruments, art events, just anything that's free or cheap, but that's possibly just a pipe dream of mine because things like this need funding and people and time. Can you tell this is a bit of a sore spot for me 😅
it's one for me as well 😂 That's why I wanted to do a video for it. But I think you are absolutely right in your points and it's something I can do a follow-up video on, particuarly looking at arts funding in schools.
Bit of a side point here, but there are a lot of stories from the 70s and 80s of musicians and actors living on the dole in squats before finding fame and fortune...apocryphal tales abound of popstars having their benefits stopped because someone at the dole office saw them on Top of the Pops and assumed they must be a millionaire already. But as the benefits system became harder and harder to game, this became less possible, nigh on impossible. I'm not saying that was "right" or "wrong", merely pointing out that some state funding was actually unintentional, yet allowed some great careers to flourish.
I'm trying to get trained as a costume maker and designer but as a disabled person who cannot hold a job and is having to teach myself everything while being very very aware of how expensive just creating practice garments can be, is extremely stressful. The one community theatre i could have potentially volunteered at has shut and its heartbreaking because I have a deep love for arts and performance
In South Devon, there used to be an arts centre in a place called Seale Hayne. They used to have rehearsal rooms for bands and a recording studio. It was affordable and they had good equipment. I've played in several bands that practiced there. After I moved up North, it was closed as it stopped receiving arts funding from the government. Now, the closest places to practice are located in either Plymouth or Exeter, which can be much further depending on where you live.
Was it around Newton Abbott by any chance? I used to go to school in that area and heard about it but never went. Its such a shame that we lose so many of these venues where people are able to develop their skills, regardless of their experience. Newton Abbott, though there were some things I didn't like about it, had an amazing music scene.
@@DrJoeLovelace yes it was! I myself am from Torquay
Ah Thatcher. And the English would still vote for her today.
No.... a large enough minority to be distorted into a majority by first past the post would vote for Thatcher today, not an actual majority of British people. And why? just look at our print media... and even some of the TV media.
Great video! Drama school emptied the reserves for me and there was never really any hope of sticking in London and pursuing a career! I felt like I was pretty good at it but it was very clear during training that the people succeeding (in most cases) were not worried about money. Sometimes I even felt scorned that I wasn’t in the know about every new show popping up on the west end, in reality they just weren’t always affordable. Glad to have had the experience, glad to have moved on from it
It's not how it happened. It how we stop it. Greed is out of control and that's the thing about greedy people, they never have enough., they will go on and on, shoveling money into the void that is their greed. And the result is homelessness, it's skipping meals, it's can't heat a home. And it's work till you die and nothing to live for.
Worked in security for films and T.V. for 20 yrs and have seen film workers come and go. What I noticed is the best way to enter it is by working for the locations department. Seen many do that, then make contacts and move to camera crews, sound, make up etc etc. Location jobs are probably the most simple to get. It's hard work and burn out is a regular result but it is still the best way in
I saw Marina Hyde on an old Charlie Brooker program, a while ago and noticed how she's 'commoned' down her accent in recent years. I guess the 'plummy' thing doesn't sell in the podcast world..
8:35 SPOT ON!!!!!
I don't know if this has caused fewer young people to be interested in the arts, as it could be because it's been priced out of the working class. But, as I went through school and university, I noticed less and less kids were interested in the arts, particularly music because that's where I was mostly. It could also be chalked up to the arts being seen as 'for girls' or 'gay', which is a whole other conversation. But another reason could be because there just isn't a drive to go into the arts as a career (me included, I went into STEM), as many people say there just isn't any money there. As much as I agree that the arts could be nationalised, I think there is a bigger conversation about how arts fit into society as a whole.
We saw a rise in the 2000s but a mass decrease recently. I think much of it also comes down to school funding cuts for arts. Money is a huge factor, and I don't believe nationalisation is the only way to fix it. I think art is a recreational thing, in which everyone should be involved in, but sometimes the arts have been treated as another method of “making a career out of it” when people should just be able to make stuff with a bit of resources for the community, rather than it having to be a commercial option. In the past, people mostly stumbled into the arts rather than it becoming a career choice when you are a kid. We need to get back to the stumbling but ensure there are many opportunities to get people to stumble into it.
Just some thoughts. Feel free to say if I'm barking up the wrong tree!
@@DrJoeLovelace I do agree with that as well. Not everything needs to be a career and have its soul sucked out by capitalism. And, yeah, I did see the massive decline in funding as I went through school especially, as we had less arts teachers and music tutors by the time I left school. I do love the idea of stumbling into art, but I think that is a dream of the past because kids are just not exposed to the arts as much as they were used to. It's definitely a multi-faceted discussion around the accessibility of arts outside and within schools, but also about the perception and letting everyone know that the arts are for everyone and anyone who wishes to try it. I don't have a solution that answers it all, I wish I did because being exposed to music, in particular, became such an important part (and still is) of my life, and I would want to see that for others as they grow up. I think, as a start, just more opportunities for exposure, such as more school clubs, free events to try bashing some instruments, art events, just anything that's free or cheap, but that's possibly just a pipe dream of mine because things like this need funding and people and time.
Can you tell this is a bit of a sore spot for me 😅
it's one for me as well 😂 That's why I wanted to do a video for it. But I think you are absolutely right in your points and it's something I can do a follow-up video on, particuarly looking at arts funding in schools.
Once upon a time, acting and music was an underclass kind of job. Now everyone wants to show off but they don't want direction.
Brilliantly interesting and researched !
Thank you friend!
SAG-AFTRA in America should just look out for working actors and not famous people. Famous people already have enough benefits.
Same with Equity in the UK. Though I must say they've become more radical in recent times since I stopped being a member.
Hopefully, one day, you will link up with my big self-funded by me arts project.
Clive Burgess
What are the two posters behind you?
Fallout posters!
Bit of a side point here, but there are a lot of stories from the 70s and 80s of musicians and actors living on the dole in squats before finding fame and fortune...apocryphal tales abound of popstars having their benefits stopped because someone at the dole office saw them on Top of the Pops and assumed they must be a millionaire already. But as the benefits system became harder and harder to game, this became less possible, nigh on impossible.
I'm not saying that was "right" or "wrong", merely pointing out that some state funding was actually unintentional, yet allowed some great careers to flourish.
Why should art be state owned?
Comprensión is not your strong suit
@@ACDT"This also has its roots in decades of Tory Cuts started by Thatcher and her mission to privatize all Industries including the Arts "
@buolindo8795 well at least you can quote!
@@ACDT Can you give an actual arguement?
Time for YOUR family to learn exactly what happened on Oct 7.