what if the scene where lady jessica is killing the arkonnen soldier with a rock is symbolic of Caim killing his own brother....as we later find out lady jessica is actually a harkonnen
What I took from the books is that GOD had planned this and it may have even happened before. Spice is the link to god and travel etc. It only comes from 1 planet at a time. And they find an ancient building that suggests this may have happened before.
You know it's really funny, These people started out being controlled by machines and they fought a war to get rid of them, And their new messiah is essentially just a biological version of a quantum computer So this time the Machine has a face So that's okay.
Its the way he looks each one in the eye as he passes through them knowing everything about each and everyone of them. Like he did with "Big Fremen' and his Grandma. 💯🥷🥷🥷🥷🥷🕺🏽🥷🥷🥷🥷🥷🔥
It’s brilliant, and it’s why I love DV so much. This isn’t a triumphant arrival, this is the villain arriving to lead a galatic jihad. Him entering from the dessert alone, a giant sand worm breaching. As he parts the crowd, all wearing the color gold, the narrow golden path he will take them on. Just brilliant. He doesn’t need any dialogue, he just shows us
Both movies are the result of a self indulgent moron trying to handle a brilliant story and failing. Just watched the 2nd movie. And it might be on the top 5 worst movies I've ever seen. It's all so beyond stupid. Paul wanted to avert the jihad. Not start it. He chose to manipulate the Freman. But never wanted to.go to war with the whole.empire. this is just. Dumb.
The scene where he talks to all of the fremen at the meeting is so freaking powerfull. Gave me huge chills and tears in my eyes. What a performance. What a movie. Oscar worthy 100%
It could easily sweep the boards. I certainly want Denis as best director, best picture best cinematographer, best music, but most of all Bardem as best supporting actor. It was easily a performance to match his previous win.
Same man. Their slow realization that he’s the madhi is just amazing. But it’s also tragic because if you know the story that’s the tipping point. The point of no return.
This is the only movie I've watched in theaters twice. And I'm thinking about a 3rd time. Truly amazing acting. I mean, the whole team on every level did an amazing job.
Since Call Me By Your Name, especially the last scene, I knew he was going to become one of the most outstanding and versatile actors I've ever seen. His ability to express the subtleties of human emotions is incredible. That's why his characters are so believable, even in this case, although my only criticism is that his body is not credible in Dune. An even just slightly more muscular figure would've enhanced his performance.
@@franciscoo7478Quite literally means giving their water to the dead. Do you remember the pool in sietch Tabr? Pretty sure that line also speaks to that ritual. "In your nightmares you give water to the dead and it fills your heart with joy". Not sure how that can interpreted as crying after killing someone.
@@thenickfoxx Book reason. In the book, crying over someone death is called exactly that. And is considered great honour to the dead when you get rid of water which is in short supply. You might be pretty sure, but you are not correct.
Dune 2 was the first movie I ever watched where seeing the protagonist win was terrifying. As soon as Paul drank that magic gatorade and became omnipotent, it felt like losing a friend in the worst way possible. Which is perfect. As someone who is new to Dune, I am very curious as to where this is gonna go in part 3.
Usually in films I side with the main character, even when I know they’re in the wrong. But when Paul kept going further and further and Chani kept getting angrier and angrier, I was kind of hoping she would assassinate him. I know that’s not what happened in the book, but man, Paul Atreides is a frightening character.
You doubted Chalamet as a leader? Have you seen "The King" where he plays Henry the IV at Agincourt, and "Bones and All" where he plays a serial cannibal? He has range.
I second this so much. He was masterful in The King. It's the first movie I saw Chalamet in and I was blown away by his performance...I knew he'd be one to watch after I saw it.
This! That's exactly what I was thinking. Did he not see The King? Timothee also portrayed a reluctant leader there as well. He also has an Oscar nomination for Best Leading Actor for "Call Me By Your Name".
The moment where Paul puts on the ring, I see that look from Gurney as another tragic conversion from "friend" to "follower". It's not just the prophesy that has allowed Paul to indoctrinate, it's his sheer charisma.
Gurney was gonna follow Paul no matter what because he loves the Atriedes, and adored serving Duke Leto; he sees Paul as his new Duke. So while he's allegiant to Paul, it's for a different reason. His charisma doesn't hurt either, that's for damn sure. (also like Paul, Gurney is highly motivated by revenge...).
His salute before the battle mixes the Fremen saying with Atreides movement (like Duncan Idaho), mid battle he used the same punching on his own chest as Jamis, and the parallels with Gurney’s training battle are there too.
@@tjarsunYeah, just before Jamis attacks, the Fremen shout something like "Say i" and then "Sasa O" and Paul is distracted. Just before he fights Feyd he hands his mantle and the Fedaykin there say something similar to him, beating their chests.
"Your mothers warned you of my coming" is such a cold badass line. That speech right there is an Oscar Moment. Up there with the Joker interview or Churchill speech.
When I watched that scene, I too was moved by Paul's speech and felt that if I was a Fremen, I would have definitely followed him. Just goes to show how powerful belief can be.
@@AUniqueHandleName444 Frank Herbert wrote the Dune Saga because he wanted to show that “charismatic leaders should come with a warning sign on the forehead ‘maybe dangerous to your health’.” What exactly did Paul do that was good? Seek revenge for his lowering? Co-opted the Fremen so he could get his Dukedom back? Unleash them in a universal crusade that kills 61 billion people? Later he even betrays his own "Golden Path" No he's very charismatic and very bad.
The worm coming up through the sand while Paul is walking is the same worm shot they used in Dune part one during Paul's dream about the war. The shot is over Chani's left shoulder when she does her superhero pose.
I agree, Stilgar is one of the most fascinating characters with one of the most interesting arcs. However, I find his fanaticism and ability to interpret every action as a "sign" way to close to home with people in today's world rather than otherworldly. Kinda' scary.
As Paul walks through the crowd; it vaguely traces out the shape of an eye. I don't know if that is intentional, but considering this scene is right after his powers of foresight awaken, it is very symbolic.
@@everit6682I found Stilgar hilarious in the books thank you very much. Spitting at the Duke on his first meeting. (An insult anywhere but Arrakis) When he is not so subtly trying to convince Jessica that he could be a good stepfather to Paul. (I.e. Stilgar and Jessica should get married) That's just off the top of my head. But yeah he definitely has some comedic moments. Obviously you're talking about his "Life of Brian" moment but I'm just saying. He isn't super serious in the books either. He's like your goofy uncle that has you pull his finger. But who also fought 3 tours and has crazy PTSD because of it.
@@everit6682It absolutely fits Stilgar's arc in the books. He subverts himself to Paul and goes from a strong Fremen leader and Fedaykin warrior to a glorified bureaucrat in Paul's Imperial court.
the speech Paul made at the temple in the south was peak cinema, fresh from drinking the water of life, you could tell he was a bit off like his mother when she first drank it (atleast changed a little darker or something) then proceeds to that birds eye view shot going through the crowd, and then drops the craziest power move speech that was def out of character for Pauls once doubtful mind of the prophecy. meanwhile the underground temple was the most insanely massive temple of scale ive ever seen (the movies size of scale is unmatched) anyways that scene in the temple is what rlly made me finally a fan of tim/paul. along with the scene of when he gets his footing first riding the worm when the score hits from hans zimmer while also getting pounded by dunes he was crashing into. best movie this year idk if anything will top it for me
I've watched the film 4 times in cinema already and every time I had chills during this scene. I agree about Chalamet, I didn't think he has it in him, he is totally a badass.
I cannot overemphasize how much I love the interpretation of Alia in this film, especially when it comes to her relationship with Paul. When Jessica is in the room, Alia is in the room, and the many parallels between both films have, makes this better because just like with Dr. Kynes, Jessica told him to slow down when he tried to use the prophecy to sway her and again here in the room. But, this time Alia was also there, and she did not say it 'with' Jessica or speak at all during that scene. In my mind, she was ride or die with him in that scene, and, hopefully, said something to Jessica in that last shot when she looks up and smiles after seeing her boy become a messiah.
Oh i loved Alia. And entire dynamic between her and Jessica just reinforces tragedy of Alias existence. Preborn, midst of complete shitstorm and absolutely zero to say about her future. She didn’t get to choose any part of it and set up for disaster. Oh the tragedy.
Gets better with each watch! When Paul challenges everyone in the room, and even Chani stands up and grabs her knife, ready to take him down. I think about that a lot because Chani is having this inner conflict about loving him but hating what is going on. And she's a key non-believer ready to fight; but if she really wanted to fight him, she would have ultimately done it. She it makes me wonder if she was actually about to fight Paul or if she was just generally prepared for violence, about to jump into the fray, maybe even defend Paul. Like you said, the ambiguities in the scene allow for various interpretations and each shot tells and invites a whole story.
making Chani the moral compass in the film was such a masterstroke. In the book, it's Paul wrestling in his internal monolog-- but by personifying it with the character that opens the narration in Dune Part 1 (Irulan opens the book), it sets the thread up perfectly.
Chalemet speaking to them in the Fremen language was some of the best acting I have ever seen. I get goosebumps everytime I rewatch this scene......I also liked how in the final cut (unlike the commercial) where he screams long live the fighters its all happening underneath the music like its all a forgone set of events playing out on their own now that it has been set in motion.
The way Chalamet transitioned into accepting his destiny and powerfully executing that in the scene you brought up was absolutely the best scene of both movies. It is peak cinema and I would be surprised if he doesn’t earn an Oscar for his performance.
I watched "The King" before the cast announcement for Dune and when they said Timothee was chosen to play Paul, I honestly thought it was a perfect choice. So glad to be right about it.
As fantastic as Chalamet was, I think Zendaya was even better. Those expressions she made at the end, the "I really really want to cry but I absolutely cannot" face was haunting and perfect. She just had a moment with Florence Pugh and their chemistry was off the hook IMO. I can't wait to see them in Messiah, along with Anya Taylor-Joy (hopefully in at least one scene where they're all together)? It's gonna be insane.
Yes. She definitely was great in that movie. Remember the scene when she saw Paul finally riding the worm? Her expression of relief was as real as it gets. But I think the best casting choice in this movie(s) was by far Rebeca Ferguson. There can never be another Jessica.
While I don't think she is necessarily Great here, The Movie really Did need a Second opinion Character like in Patton, in Patton General Bradly is a Charater that gives a Second opinion of sorts to Patton, he points out Pattons flaws as a Person and his Command Style and his Volitile Personality, Chani was the Best character to change to that 2nd Opinion character because it not only parallel old timy Hollywood Character Epics but it hammers home that Paul isn't an Infalable and Unquestionably good man.
Agreed, there's so much Zendaya-hate flying around and I can't see why. I think she did a great job, and after seeing Part 2 3x now, I really get why DV made the choices he did for her character arc. This I think will really set up the next film better, and it also helps the narrative in Part 2 anyway having such a prominent Fremen express real concern over Paul's takeover of Arrakis, where it has become her own full internal conflict as well. She knows Paul is sincere, but she can't stand seeing the Fremen fall so deep into the thrall of their worship of him. Spoiler alert for those who've not read Messiah: the fact that there are so many high-echelon Fremen who become disillusioned with the Jihad is a major plot point, in fact THE whole plot of "Part 3".
This scene is hands down, one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history 😱👏 my jaw was on the floor honestly. The score aswell is just unbelievable. Bravo to all behind this film, it's a generational level event in film and I need to see it again
I just saw this movie yesterday with my 12 year old twins and as we were walking out of the theater my son said… “So…who’s the bad guy in this story??” I think that this story is like trying to explain to a being from another world that knows nothing about our history and what we now call our current existence.. ultimately it would be a constant story of how power corrupts everyone..even “good” people will be horribly corrupted by power.
Yeah it seems Paul is given a anti-heroes journey? It's fascinating because in a sense his hand is forced at every point and it is a matter of survival, If Paul and the Fremen don't persevere then it is looking like Feyd and Baron Harkonnen who may oust the Emperor and are who are intent on committing genocide against Fremen so the whole geo-political situation has really devolved and it really is a kill or be kill situation
I can't believe nobody has picked up on this yet so I will say it here. The scene shot from above as Paul moves through the huge crowd of Freman is a visual reference to him being the Kwisatz Haderach. In Dune part 1 Mohiam says "Like sifting sand through a screen we sift people". The scene from above resembles grains of sand with Paul sifting through them and being separate because he is the Kwisatz Haderach that the Bene Gesserit have been working towards all those years.
I can't wait for this to come to a streaming platform I want to watch Dune 1-2 over and over again. Every time I see a new YT video I learn a new nugget of information that makes this Universe so amazing.
Agree, this scene blew my mind. The way he walks into the room and just owns everyone, including the audience in the theater... It gave me goosebumps and still does even now. The acting is hands down some of the best. Feels like something you'd get from Anthony Hopkins or one of the other greats. As always, appreciate the excellent breakdown! Thanks!
Absolutely completely and utterly the best scene of any film ive ever watched ever. I was so gassed all 7times ive watched it. Yes 7 times and me and the Mrs are off to Imax it again. I knew it was gonna be my favourite film. Big ups Def.💯👊🏾
@@heavyspoilers I knew it was gonna be my fave but I didn't realize how much I was gonna love it. Tbf tho, It took 3 watches to get D.V.s vision coz im so stuck on the book plot. But still it ticked all cinematic boxes including my Mrs's.😂 @Paul Spolieides.💯👊🏾
That entire scene. The music, his costume just really exude the fact that he is now a very powerful being and no longer that young impressionable man he once was. It's damn brilliant.
Paul taking off his ring earlier while saying "father, I found my way" contrasts very nicely against the latter scene where he put it back on, at least in my mind.
I think the scene of Paul moving through the fremen resembling sand also is a reference to the beni sifting humans like sand. Symbolising how he isn’t like them since embracing his Harkonen side
It's truly been a long time since I've left the movie theater with so much hope for a sequel. My wife and I went to an imax theater for the first time to see this and oh my gosh. The whole experience was amazing. Gave me the same feeling as when I watched The Lord Of The Rings. I truly hope they release a imax ratio version on Blu Ray.
I love how once in first movie (in the tent telling his mom to get away from him) and once in second “its not hope!” TC bellows/screams in such a manner you can feel the monster lurking within. That monster comes out in this moment. We want to like him because he did truly fight it for so long.
i had to comeback to watch it again, and toke a video of the scene to rewatch it again and again... fckng Temothe performance of Paul is magnificent, and the "subtle" way he uses the voice to assemble the Fremen... oh man what a movie
Add in and consider that from the moment Pauls says he sees a narrow path, he is now a passenger in his own life - he must walk that exact path, and do the exact things the whole way. Before he had a choice - go for it or not. After the water of life, he chooses the path, and looses all agency. The one time he regains it is when he hesitates to send the fremen outwards for the holy war - but it is the only way, so he must do it. Its absolutely brilliant acting and directing at how many times you notice in his body language and how scenes are shown how Paul is now a man playing a role/part. The empty stare during the fights with the saurdaukar, his empty-deadpan tone of voice, its all a man that is doing the right thing because he must, not because he wants, and must do it JUST right and JUST this exact way to get the correct outcome.
Him marching through the Fremen to take center stage was filled with purpose and determination but also so ominous with the score in the background letting you know that Paul is not the good guy and this is a very very very bad thing he’s about to do.
I've seen this movie 4 times, and I'm ready to see it again. And while this might be a recency biased statement, Paul's entrance and speech in the Fremen circle is one of the best scenes I've ever experienced. It gives me goosebumps every time i see it! Timothee Chalamet is so believable in the whole movie... but especially this scene. Dune Part 2 is one of my all time favorite movies!
To me what's so incredible about the speech that solidifies Paul as the Lisan Al Gaib, is how he builds a myth for himself in real time, showing them that he is more than a mere man. He declares that he is a sublime warrior, that none of the thousands of people in that room could best him, thus it would be stupid of him to kill Stillgar, as it would have no honor or purpose in it, it would be like Stillgar committing suicide. Then he pivots, and implies that he saw the defiant mans Grandmother be maimed, despite it being physically impossible for him to have been there or to have known of the even. Paul is implying that he was there, like he was present at that moment, most likely while she was riding on a sandworm, or as if he *was* the sandworm himself. Then once he has cowed the defiant warrior, he turns and tells the elders that he can see inside their dreams, that he can all but read their thoughts. "In your nightmares you give water to the dead, and it brings joy to your hearts." Here, he has then established himself as a divine being, an authority beyond reproach. And the rest follows suit.
I’ve seen most if not all of timothe chalamet’s movies and I knew he was a very good actor but this scene was so damn good I personally feel like anyone who doubted his skills or was a hater just cannot deny now how amazing he is!
It’s probably my favourite movie scene of all time! The highs this movie had but this scene topped them all for me. I was ready to go into battle for him lol
Paul's initial motive may have been revenge and even pure survival, but I think once he drinks the water of life it becomes much bigger and existential than revenge for his family. Due to the workings of the BG, he has gotten swept up in machinations much larger than himself Thanks for mentioning the similarities in the score between the Harkonnen Arena and Arrival! Arrival is my favorite track on the album. The Imperial March of Dune!
People think becaquse they read the book they know what this Paul's up tp. When in fact this is a different Paul with different , bigger, logos in mind as motivation. This Paul is truly grateful to Arrakis and want to turn it into a paradise .
I think he had to come in strong due to the Fremen being being so driven by bravery. Instead of dealing with countless of "challenges" from various "honor bound" fremen, he takes them all on, at the same time. He specifically says "none of you have a chance against me". He challenges them all once in order to avoid doing so, with individuals in the future or have people question him. The fremen only follows the strongest one. In that scene, everybody acknowledged that he is the strongest one.
That sequence is absolutely fantastic. It's also interesting seeing the different reactions between people who are familiar with the books and the message that Herbert was trying to convey and the folks who are new or only did the first book and didn't quite get the message of, "Charismatic leader = bad." For newer folks, a lot of the reactions revolve around how badass this sequence and the ending of the movie are and are 150% on Paul's side, showing the effectiveness of the cult of personality. But on the flip side, starting right from that moment where he's walking to the meeting with the worm behind him, my brain went straight to, "Oh damn, dude is 100% in his Darth Vader era now!" It was all very effective in that regardless of if you're buying into Paul or don't like the path he's walking, everything that happens at and around the war council reinforces your feelings.
Cortex Videos released a video about this exact same scene a couple weeks ago saying how it was one of the best scenes in the film and captured the essence of what made this movie so good. I had just got back from seeing the film a 2nd time and it was this scene that stuck with me most after that viewing. It truly is incredible, from Paul's arrival to the war council meeting, all of it done so well.
For me, he had put the ring on to maintain Gurney on his side. I've felt that he used one thing to convince each one of the people there, and failed only with Chani.
This scene was so rad. It was exhilarating yet heartbreaking watching Paul slip away. How sad for Chani to watch all the ships ascending into the sky. The love for her people, her home, her Paul. I can’t wait for the next one. Shoot, how far could this cinematic universe could go? We going for a tidy little Trilogy? Or will others try to tell more stories? Have some intergalactic storytelling rivalry?! I’m here for it.
Great analysis. One thing which stood out to me was the use of contrast with scenes from Dune part 1. In particular the scene where they are leaving Caladan and Paul is contemplating his future. Compare this with him walking up to the sietch across the desert. Dune part 1 - Atreides transport ship arises out of the water, The sound track titled "Leaving Caladan" is clean sounding with just a hint of the gutteral octobass in the background. Dune part 2 - Sandworm arises out from the sand in the background. The sound track used is titled "Arrival" and is more foreboding and gutteral with the octobass taking prominence, yet the same theme in "Leaving Caladan" is retained. It's amazing to play these two scenes next to each other to see the similarities and contrasts. Villneuve, Zimmer and Grieg Fraser are absolutely brilliant.
I finally saw this when it released on Max and it was so absolutely fantastic! I have to say this has to be one of the very best films I have ever seen. The cast especially Timothy Chalamet knew amd understood the assignment and absolutely delivered a role of roles! The rest of the cast did the same. This is cinema at it's finest!
@heavyspoilers you missed this aspect, it seems. Gurney walks into that hall fully expecting Paul to 'politic' the Fremen into an alliance. Yet he walked out a believer, an apostle of Muad'Dib. You see it in how Paul masterfully manipulates _specifically_ Gurney with the ring, a sign of his heritage, a heritage that freed Gurney from Harkonnen torment. It was a show for one; the Fremen didnt know or care for some off-world dognitary called House Atreides. But Gurney did. It's a masterclass in how humans as social creatures can easily bend to the will of a common leader. Nobody is safe - not the 'superstitious' Fremen, not the 'more cultured' Caladanian. Everybody has _something_ they desperately must believe in. Human nature rules us all.
And when he defeats Feyd, limping over to the now dethroned emperor, Atredies ring upon his hand, wordlessly demanding he kneel and kiss it in fealty to him, breaking the hesitation with an authoritative stomp, signifying what will happen to him if he refuses.
Only seen the movie once so I don't recall the quote but at one point he spells it out for us when he he responds "I do" when told "your father didn't believe in revenge".
Paul putting the ring back on reminds me of what his father said, "A great man doesn't seek to lead. He's called to it." Paul accepts the Fremen's call to be their leader. He is finally accepting the role that he must play.
I disagree with this assessment that Paul is doing this somehow just for his own gain. The path forward for them all to live is for him to embrace this Lisan Al Gaib role. It's not like he's keen on manipulating the Fremen, and rejects doing so through the entire movie until he sees there really is no other way forward. Putting the ring on isn't an indication it's only about revenge. He's just remembering his own lineage, and rolling it into the greater, merged army of Fremen he has gained leadership over. He still is the current leader of House Atreides, and that provides some sway in the Landsraad. The Fremen by themselves, don't.
Thanks for this review, a perfect discussion of those scenes. I've seen the movie twice now, and each time am even more impressed by the directing and acting
When he entered into the room and gave that speech it gave me the chills and amazing performance by everyone including how Timothee character changed like wow!
13:45 - That scene where Paul shuts down the Fremen ways was straight from the book. Paul goes off on both Stilgar and the Fremen Naibs for their antiquated ways, showing how killing off the strongest and wisest leaders cripples you, rather than strengthens. It was implemented way back during the Butlerian Jihad times, as a way to show leadership in such a harsh place.
The way Timothee Chalamet pronounces the Fremen language is almost chilling. The way he plays with his cadence and volume makes for a truly intimidating speech
Seen the movie twice so far, and after Paul drinks the Water of Life, it takes such a tonal shift, and I get chills with Paul beginning his "villain" arc. (I use the term "villain" loosely, of course.)
Huge thank you for checking out the video. Much appreciated.
what if the scene where lady jessica is killing the arkonnen soldier with a rock is symbolic of Caim killing his own brother....as we later find out lady jessica is actually a harkonnen
@@EmerC258 you make something more than it is, its just cliche scene
What I took from the books is that GOD had planned this and it may have even happened before. Spice is the link to god and travel etc. It only comes from 1 planet at a time. And they find an ancient building that suggests this may have happened before.
yh most likely😂😁
You know it's really funny, These people started out being controlled by machines and they fought a war to get rid of them, And their new messiah is essentially just a biological version of a quantum computer So this time the Machine has a face So that's okay.
Paul moving through all the Fremen was one of the most magnificent shots I’ve ever seen
Its the way he looks each one in the eye as he passes through them knowing everything about each and everyone of them. Like he did with "Big Fremen' and his Grandma.
💯🥷🥷🥷🥷🥷🕺🏽🥷🥷🥷🥷🥷🔥
It also looks like a worm moving through the grains of sand.
Agreed, and yet there were multiple scenes and shots where I said the same thing.
It’s brilliant, and it’s why I love DV so much. This isn’t a triumphant arrival, this is the villain arriving to lead a galatic jihad. Him entering from the dessert alone, a giant sand worm breaching. As he parts the crowd, all wearing the color gold, the narrow golden path he will take them on. Just brilliant. He doesn’t need any dialogue, he just shows us
Both movies are the result of a self indulgent moron trying to handle a brilliant story and failing. Just watched the 2nd movie. And it might be on the top 5 worst movies I've ever seen. It's all so beyond stupid.
Paul wanted to avert the jihad. Not start it. He chose to manipulate the Freman. But never wanted to.go to war with the whole.empire. this is just. Dumb.
This scene alone got me to go see this movie 3 times. The score, the visuals, the acting…peak cinema
Same.
pure ART
same. Saw it 2wice
That and the worm ride scene. I lament that I can only experience that scene properly in a theater and not at home.
Me too! I’ve never seen a movie in the cinema three times until now. Spectacular.
What about the symmetry of Paul to Silgar not killing him and Leto not accepting the resignation. “You would deprive us of your talents”
🤯 very good.
nice catch
Got that too
He needs people who believe he's the Madhi so he can highjack their religion and start a Jihad in his own name after going native. He's a psychopath.
Oh snap!!
The scene where he talks to all of the fremen at the meeting is so freaking powerfull. Gave me huge chills and tears in my eyes. What a performance. What a movie. Oscar worthy 100%
It could easily sweep the boards. I certainly want Denis as best director, best picture best cinematographer, best music, but most of all Bardem as best supporting actor. It was easily a performance to match his previous win.
The entire third act is spectacular.
Same man. Their slow realization that he’s the madhi is just amazing. But it’s also tragic because if you know the story that’s the tipping point. The point of no return.
This is the only movie I've watched in theaters twice. And I'm thinking about a 3rd time. Truly amazing acting. I mean, the whole team on every level did an amazing job.
Had to change my shorts too. Such a wet, beautiful moment
Timothee was phenomenal in this movie. I didn’t think much of him before, but his performance here was absolutely breathtaking
ITS NOT HOPE!
Always been a talent
Yes, exactly. He really grew up, matured, and grew as Paul since Dune 1.
Since Call Me By Your Name, especially the last scene, I knew he was going to become one of the most outstanding and versatile actors I've ever seen. His ability to express the subtleties of human emotions is incredible. That's why his characters are so believable, even in this case, although my only criticism is that his body is not credible in Dune. An even just slightly more muscular figure would've enhanced his performance.
That’s true to the books though, he’s a scrawny teenager in the books.. small for his age
That whole monologue sent chills down my spine.
Same. As amazing as the movie is, that’s my favorite scene
when he screams to the other Fremen leader about giving water to the dead in his nightmares is bone chilling.
@@yurimodin7333 Giving water to the dead means crying after killing someone. soul crushing language for sure.
@@franciscoo7478Quite literally means giving their water to the dead. Do you remember the pool in sietch Tabr? Pretty sure that line also speaks to that ritual. "In your nightmares you give water to the dead and it fills your heart with joy". Not sure how that can interpreted as crying after killing someone.
@@thenickfoxx Book reason. In the book, crying over someone death is called exactly that. And is considered great honour to the dead when you get rid of water which is in short supply.
You might be pretty sure, but you are not correct.
Dune 2 was the first movie I ever watched where seeing the protagonist win was terrifying. As soon as Paul drank that magic gatorade and became omnipotent, it felt like losing a friend in the worst way possible. Which is perfect. As someone who is new to Dune, I am very curious as to where this is gonna go in part 3.
Shai Hulud & worm gods 🙏 my friend
Usually in films I side with the main character, even when I know they’re in the wrong. But when Paul kept going further and further and Chani kept getting angrier and angrier, I was kind of hoping she would assassinate him. I know that’s not what happened in the book, but man, Paul Atreides is a frightening character.
@@eileensnow6153Cringe. Chani was fn horrible in this.
@@Kwisatz-Chaderach thanks for elaborating that for me
@@eileensnow6153 you're welcome.
You doubted Chalamet as a leader? Have you seen "The King" where he plays Henry the IV at Agincourt, and "Bones and All" where he plays a serial cannibal? He has range.
I second this so much. He was masterful in The King. It's the first movie I saw Chalamet in and I was blown away by his performance...I knew he'd be one to watch after I saw it.
For sure. Some think that Chalamet is being hyped because of his looks, but he has the talent and intelligence to back the hype
Yep. He is this generation's Leo. Following the same path. @@hundredfireify
He was even good in that Italian gay movie where he played a gay guy with that actor that turned out to be a cannibal or whatever
This! That's exactly what I was thinking. Did he not see The King? Timothee also portrayed a reluctant leader there as well. He also has an Oscar nomination for Best Leading Actor for "Call Me By Your Name".
The moment where Paul puts on the ring, I see that look from Gurney as another tragic conversion from "friend" to "follower". It's not just the prophesy that has allowed Paul to indoctrinate, it's his sheer charisma.
Gurney was gonna follow Paul no matter what because he loves the Atriedes, and adored serving Duke Leto; he sees Paul as his new Duke. So while he's allegiant to Paul, it's for a different reason. His charisma doesn't hurt either, that's for damn sure. (also like Paul, Gurney is highly motivated by revenge...).
His salute before the battle mixes the Fremen saying with Atreides movement (like Duncan Idaho), mid battle he used the same punching on his own chest as Jamis, and the parallels with Gurney’s training battle are there too.
@@tjarsunYeah, just before Jamis attacks, the Fremen shout something like "Say i" and then "Sasa O" and Paul is distracted. Just before he fights Feyd he hands his mantle and the Fedaykin there say something similar to him, beating their chests.
Claro isso é guerra. Você têm que vencer na oratória também. Engraçado como as pessoas modernas não conseguem entender o que se passou ali.
@@LeonardoRodrigues1I was just thinking the same thing and I’m an American lol
"Your mothers warned you of my coming" is such a cold badass line. That speech right there is an Oscar Moment. Up there with the Joker interview or Churchill speech.
Nope
When I watched that scene, I too was moved by Paul's speech and felt that if I was a Fremen, I would have definitely followed him. Just goes to show how powerful belief can be.
A Chani viu ele ressuscitar e continuou sem acreditar. O que mostra o quanto a arrogância moderna pode cegar.
@@LeonardoRodrigues1Paul is not the good guy
But that’s the thing. The belief is what is used to control people. Dune is partially a commentary on religion and how it can be used for control
@@LongDefiant he really is. or he becomes the good guy. although the guilt of being the good guy and doing the right thing basically kills him
@@AUniqueHandleName444 Frank Herbert wrote the Dune Saga because he wanted to show that “charismatic leaders should come with a warning sign on the forehead ‘maybe dangerous to your health’.”
What exactly did Paul do that was good? Seek revenge for his lowering? Co-opted the Fremen so he could get his Dukedom back? Unleash them in a universal crusade that kills 61 billion people?
Later he even betrays his own "Golden Path"
No he's very charismatic and very bad.
" paul atreides must die for kwisatz haderach to rise " he did that in water of life scene
He became Kwisatz Haderach, the destroyer of the worlds.
"To take a life is to take your own" He might've already "died" when he killed Jamis in part 1
:) I thought it was Cuisinart Hackysack?
@@ExtremeMadnessX Well... yeah
The worm coming up through the sand while Paul is walking is the same worm shot they used in Dune part one during Paul's dream about the war. The shot is over Chani's left shoulder when she does her superhero pose.
Nice catch
Correction: it's Paul doing the superhero pose in his vision. Not Chani. My bad.
@@SithNerd79But she did that in Part Two.
I've seen it three times and the experience has gotten better every time. There's just so much to appreciate.
We need a video essay on Stilgar. His character arc is so fascinatingly tragic, on top of being otherworldly comical.
I agree, Stilgar is one of the most fascinating characters with one of the most interesting arcs. However, I find his fanaticism and ability to interpret every action as a "sign" way to close to home with people in today's world rather than otherworldly. Kinda' scary.
@@jeffkrauss9961That's how most religions start. Especially two biggest ones.
Paul: *farts*
Stilgar: *nodding* Mahdi!
As Paul walks through the crowd; it vaguely traces out the shape of an eye. I don't know if that is intentional, but considering this scene is right after his powers of foresight awaken, it is very symbolic.
Love that. Great catch.
The sleeper has awaken.
This is the sort.of.movoe where everything is intentional.
I thrjnk that stilgar was actually the best actor. He delivered such a persuasive performance (even given the memes)
every actor on screen were 💯
He was made into a comical relief character even though he wasnt in first film nor in the book
@@everit6682I found Stilgar hilarious in the books thank you very much. Spitting at the Duke on his first meeting. (An insult anywhere but Arrakis) When he is not so subtly trying to convince Jessica that he could be a good stepfather to Paul. (I.e. Stilgar and Jessica should get married)
That's just off the top of my head. But yeah he definitely has some comedic moments.
Obviously you're talking about his "Life of Brian" moment but I'm just saying. He isn't super serious in the books either. He's like your goofy uncle that has you pull his finger. But who also fought 3 tours and has crazy PTSD because of it.
@@everit6682It absolutely fits Stilgar's arc in the books. He subverts himself to Paul and goes from a strong Fremen leader and Fedaykin warrior to a glorified bureaucrat in Paul's Imperial court.
Watching Javier’s Stilgar was tragic.
He was a leader and a guide. His faith made light of but by the end he was a shade of himself.
the speech Paul made at the temple in the south was peak cinema, fresh from drinking the water of life, you could tell he was a bit off like his mother when she first drank it (atleast changed a little darker or something) then proceeds to that birds eye view shot going through the crowd, and then drops the craziest power move speech that was def out of character for Pauls once doubtful mind of the prophecy. meanwhile the underground temple was the most insanely massive temple of scale ive ever seen (the movies size of scale is unmatched) anyways that scene in the temple is what rlly made me finally a fan of tim/paul. along with the scene of when he gets his footing first riding the worm when the score hits from hans zimmer while also getting pounded by dunes he was crashing into. best movie this year idk if anything will top it for me
I've watched the film 4 times in cinema already and every time I had chills during this scene. I agree about Chalamet, I didn't think he has it in him, he is totally a badass.
Fine! I'll go watch it again 😂
I cannot overemphasize how much I love the interpretation of Alia in this film, especially when it comes to her relationship with Paul. When Jessica is in the room, Alia is in the room, and the many parallels between both films have, makes this better because just like with Dr. Kynes, Jessica told him to slow down when he tried to use the prophecy to sway her and again here in the room. But, this time Alia was also there, and she did not say it 'with' Jessica or speak at all during that scene. In my mind, she was ride or die with him in that scene, and, hopefully, said something to Jessica in that last shot when she looks up and smiles after seeing her boy become a messiah.
Oh i loved Alia. And entire dynamic between her and Jessica just reinforces tragedy of Alias existence. Preborn, midst of complete shitstorm and absolutely zero to say about her future. She didn’t get to choose any part of it and set up for disaster. Oh the tragedy.
Alia's relationship with Paul is oddly wholesome considering that they are freaks of nature
Crazy how this title is applicable to every single scene 😅
This was my favourite sequence in both parts. It was shot amazing, the character moments were great and Timothy was just WOW❤
Yeah so good, excellent moment
Gets better with each watch! When Paul challenges everyone in the room, and even Chani stands up and grabs her knife, ready to take him down. I think about that a lot because Chani is having this inner conflict about loving him but hating what is going on. And she's a key non-believer ready to fight; but if she really wanted to fight him, she would have ultimately done it. She it makes me wonder if she was actually about to fight Paul or if she was just generally prepared for violence, about to jump into the fray, maybe even defend Paul. Like you said, the ambiguities in the scene allow for various interpretations and each shot tells and invites a whole story.
I think it more speaks to the taboo that Paul crossed there, that everyone, even Chani, was IMMEDIATELY ready to throw down.
@@Biscotum right! Such a poignant moment how everyone just stood up like "oh HELL naw"
making Chani the moral compass in the film was such a masterstroke. In the book, it's Paul wrestling in his internal monolog-- but by personifying it with the character that opens the narration in Dune Part 1 (Irulan opens the book), it sets the thread up perfectly.
Nah, she definitely wasn't going to defend him 😂
Man sees the future though so he knows literally no one in that room could beat him.
Chalemet speaking to them in the Fremen language was some of the best acting I have ever seen. I get goosebumps everytime I rewatch this scene......I also liked how in the final cut (unlike the commercial) where he screams long live the fighters its all happening underneath the music like its all a forgone set of events playing out on their own now that it has been set in motion.
I thought he wa alien!!!!!
There are two different cuts 🤨???
The way Chalamet transitioned into accepting his destiny and powerfully executing that in the scene you brought up was absolutely the best scene of both movies. It is peak cinema and I would be surprised if he doesn’t earn an Oscar for his performance.
This moment and the moment with the reverend mother in Dune 1 will be the 2 most impactful in the series for years to come
I watched "The King" before the cast announcement for Dune and when they said Timothee was chosen to play Paul, I honestly thought it was a perfect choice. So glad to be right about it.
As fantastic as Chalamet was, I think Zendaya was even better. Those expressions she made at the end, the "I really really want to cry but I absolutely cannot" face was haunting and perfect. She just had a moment with Florence Pugh and their chemistry was off the hook IMO. I can't wait to see them in Messiah, along with Anya Taylor-Joy (hopefully in at least one scene where they're all together)? It's gonna be insane.
Yes. She definitely was great in that movie. Remember the scene when she saw Paul finally riding the worm? Her expression of relief was as real as it gets.
But I think the best casting choice in this movie(s) was by far Rebeca Ferguson. There can never be another Jessica.
While I don't think she is necessarily Great here, The Movie really Did need a Second opinion Character like in Patton, in Patton General Bradly is a Charater that gives a Second opinion of sorts to Patton, he points out Pattons flaws as a Person and his Command Style and his Volitile Personality,
Chani was the Best character to change to that 2nd Opinion character because it not only parallel old timy Hollywood Character Epics but it hammers home that Paul isn't an Infalable and Unquestionably good man.
Agreed, there's so much Zendaya-hate flying around and I can't see why. I think she did a great job, and after seeing Part 2 3x now, I really get why DV made the choices he did for her character arc. This I think will really set up the next film better, and it also helps the narrative in Part 2 anyway having such a prominent Fremen express real concern over Paul's takeover of Arrakis, where it has become her own full internal conflict as well. She knows Paul is sincere, but she can't stand seeing the Fremen fall so deep into the thrall of their worship of him.
Spoiler alert for those who've not read Messiah: the fact that there are so many high-echelon Fremen who become disillusioned with the Jihad is a major plot point, in fact THE whole plot of "Part 3".
This scene is hands down, one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history 😱👏 my jaw was on the floor honestly. The score aswell is just unbelievable. Bravo to all behind this film, it's a generational level event in film and I need to see it again
Couldn't agree more!
I just saw this movie yesterday with my 12 year old twins and as we were walking out of the theater my son said… “So…who’s the bad guy in this story??”
I think that this story is like trying to explain to a being from another world that knows nothing about our history and what we now call our current existence.. ultimately it would be a constant story of how power corrupts everyone..even “good” people will be horribly corrupted by power.
Yeah it seems Paul is given a anti-heroes journey? It's fascinating because in a sense his hand is forced at every point and it is a matter of survival, If Paul and the Fremen don't persevere then it is looking like Feyd and Baron Harkonnen who may oust the Emperor and are who are intent on committing genocide against Fremen so the whole geo-political situation has really devolved and it really is a kill or be kill situation
It has been filmed!
I assumed the sand worm erupting behind Paul was he just hoped off it and had rode there on it
Same
Well yeah, it's not like he walked the whole way, lol.
When he said "Dune" it hit so hard
It's such an unexpected line, since I don't think it's in the book, but when Paul said it in nearly a whisper, I fuckin gasped
I can't believe nobody has picked up on this yet so I will say it here. The scene shot from above as Paul moves through the huge crowd of Freman is a visual reference to him being the Kwisatz Haderach. In Dune part 1 Mohiam says "Like sifting sand through a screen we sift people". The scene from above resembles grains of sand with Paul sifting through them and being separate because he is the Kwisatz Haderach that the Bene Gesserit have been working towards all those years.
The entire theater was dead silent during this scene. The room was damn filled with tension and awe… a masterpiece of a film.
I can't wait for this to come to a streaming platform I want to watch Dune 1-2 over and over again. Every time I see a new YT video I learn a new nugget of information that makes this Universe so amazing.
Agree, this scene blew my mind. The way he walks into the room and just owns everyone, including the audience in the theater... It gave me goosebumps and still does even now. The acting is hands down some of the best. Feels like something you'd get from Anthony Hopkins or one of the other greats. As always, appreciate the excellent breakdown! Thanks!
The music in this scene always reminded me of Feyds entrance into the stadium earlier! So much storytelling telling even in the music!!!
It's great because in a scene where the hero is having a major accomplishment, the music gives a horrifying tone.
Thank You! I feel the same way! I thought I was alone. I’m so happy people see this for the incredible moment.
cant get enough dune videos Paul, keep em coming
Absolutely completely and utterly the best scene of any film ive ever watched ever. I was so gassed all 7times ive watched it. Yes 7 times and me and the Mrs are off to Imax it again. I knew it was gonna be my favourite film.
Big ups Def.💯👊🏾
no doubt no doubt
@@heavyspoilers I knew it was gonna be my fave but I didn't realize how much I was gonna love it. Tbf tho, It took 3 watches to get D.V.s vision coz im so stuck on the book plot. But still it ticked all cinematic boxes including my Mrs's.😂
@Paul Spolieides.💯👊🏾
So glad you broke this scene down. been thinking about it since the premiere. its the entire reason im going to see it again in 30 mins
That entire scene. The music, his costume just really exude the fact that he is now a very powerful being and no longer that young impressionable man he once was. It's damn brilliant.
Paul taking off his ring earlier while saying "father, I found my way" contrasts very nicely against the latter scene where he put it back on, at least in my mind.
I think the scene of Paul moving through the fremen resembling sand also is a reference to the beni sifting humans like sand. Symbolising how he isn’t like them since embracing his Harkonen side
You cannot have any doubts about Timothée! Why would you!? This kid has been keeping up with the best of the best for a while now
It's truly been a long time since I've left the movie theater with so much hope for a sequel. My wife and I went to an imax theater for the first time to see this and oh my gosh. The whole experience was amazing. Gave me the same feeling as when I watched The Lord Of The Rings. I truly hope they release a imax ratio version on Blu Ray.
I love how once in first movie (in the tent telling his mom to get away from him) and once in second “its not hope!” TC bellows/screams in such a manner you can feel the monster lurking within.
That monster comes out in this moment.
We want to like him because he did truly fight it for so long.
Completely agree - I didn’t think Timothy was going to nail the leader role. I was wrong too. Mentioned that in my review too.
I didn’t realize the music change on that that’s awesome!!! I love Hans zimmer!!!
i had to comeback to watch it again, and toke a video of the scene to rewatch it again and again... fckng Temothe performance of Paul is magnificent, and the "subtle" way he uses the voice to assemble the Fremen... oh man what a movie
Add in and consider that from the moment Pauls says he sees a narrow path, he is now a passenger in his own life - he must walk that exact path, and do the exact things the whole way. Before he had a choice - go for it or not. After the water of life, he chooses the path, and looses all agency.
The one time he regains it is when he hesitates to send the fremen outwards for the holy war - but it is the only way, so he must do it.
Its absolutely brilliant acting and directing at how many times you notice in his body language and how scenes are shown how Paul is now a man playing a role/part. The empty stare during the fights with the saurdaukar, his empty-deadpan tone of voice, its all a man that is doing the right thing because he must, not because he wants, and must do it JUST right and JUST this exact way to get the correct outcome.
Him marching through the Fremen to take center stage was filled with purpose and determination but also so ominous with the score in the background letting you know that Paul is not the good guy and this is a very very very bad thing he’s about to do.
Yeah man that scene of Paul walking and the worm and soundtrack in the background, then the speech to the Fremen .... The best 👌
I've seen this movie 4 times, and I'm ready to see it again. And while this might be a recency biased statement, Paul's entrance and speech in the Fremen circle is one of the best scenes I've ever experienced. It gives me goosebumps every time i see it!
Timothee Chalamet is so believable in the whole movie... but especially this scene.
Dune Part 2 is one of my all time favorite movies!
I love where Paul starts getting wild and his mom is like chill out your coming on to strong but he pulls it off
To me what's so incredible about the speech that solidifies Paul as the Lisan Al Gaib, is how he builds a myth for himself in real time, showing them that he is more than a mere man. He declares that he is a sublime warrior, that none of the thousands of people in that room could best him, thus it would be stupid of him to kill Stillgar, as it would have no honor or purpose in it, it would be like Stillgar committing suicide. Then he pivots, and implies that he saw the defiant mans Grandmother be maimed, despite it being physically impossible for him to have been there or to have known of the even. Paul is implying that he was there, like he was present at that moment, most likely while she was riding on a sandworm, or as if he *was* the sandworm himself. Then once he has cowed the defiant warrior, he turns and tells the elders that he can see inside their dreams, that he can all but read their thoughts. "In your nightmares you give water to the dead, and it brings joy to your hearts." Here, he has then established himself as a divine being, an authority beyond reproach. And the rest follows suit.
I’ve seen most if not all of timothe chalamet’s movies and I knew he was a very good actor but this scene was so damn good I personally feel like anyone who doubted his skills or was a hater just cannot deny now how amazing he is!
Chalamet performance in the 2019 movie, "The King" prepared him for this scene. He should get an Oscar.
I agree. I've rewatched the end of Part 2 like 20 times. Its so good. You're right, he deserves an Oscar.
It’s probably my favourite movie scene of all time! The highs this movie had but this scene topped them all for me. I was ready to go into battle for him lol
hahaha exactly
The shot of Paul walking with the Sand Worm behind him is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen.
Paul's initial motive may have been revenge and even pure survival, but I think once he drinks the water of life it becomes much bigger and existential than revenge for his family. Due to the workings of the BG, he has gotten swept up in machinations much larger than himself
Thanks for mentioning the similarities in the score between the Harkonnen Arena and Arrival! Arrival is my favorite track on the album. The Imperial March of Dune!
People think becaquse they read the book they know what this Paul's up tp. When in fact this is a different Paul with different , bigger, logos in mind as motivation. This Paul is truly grateful to Arrakis and want to turn it into a paradise .
I love the colour palette and cinematography of this film. Id love ti see it again.
I think he had to come in strong due to the Fremen being being so driven by bravery. Instead of dealing with countless of "challenges" from various "honor bound" fremen, he takes them all on, at the same time. He specifically says "none of you have a chance against me". He challenges them all once in order to avoid doing so, with individuals in the future or have people question him. The fremen only follows the strongest one.
In that scene, everybody acknowledged that he is the strongest one.
You know you're watching a masterpiece when you realize that even a moment like Paul opening his eyes is so ridiculously powerful.
seen it 3 times on IMAX, now, and that scene gets me every time. Powerful stuff.
That sequence is absolutely fantastic. It's also interesting seeing the different reactions between people who are familiar with the books and the message that Herbert was trying to convey and the folks who are new or only did the first book and didn't quite get the message of, "Charismatic leader = bad." For newer folks, a lot of the reactions revolve around how badass this sequence and the ending of the movie are and are 150% on Paul's side, showing the effectiveness of the cult of personality. But on the flip side, starting right from that moment where he's walking to the meeting with the worm behind him, my brain went straight to, "Oh damn, dude is 100% in his Darth Vader era now!" It was all very effective in that regardless of if you're buying into Paul or don't like the path he's walking, everything that happens at and around the war council reinforces your feelings.
Spot on commentary. Dune delivered in ways I thought were impossible.
Cortex Videos released a video about this exact same scene a couple weeks ago saying how it was one of the best scenes in the film and captured the essence of what made this movie so good. I had just got back from seeing the film a 2nd time and it was this scene that stuck with me most after that viewing. It truly is incredible, from Paul's arrival to the war council meeting, all of it done so well.
For me, he had put the ring on to maintain Gurney on his side. I've felt that he used one thing to convince each one of the people there, and failed only with Chani.
Became one of my favorite scenes in all of films the very first time I saw it. Chills!!
I haven't read the books but I'm a fan of Akira and it gave me chills when Chalamet became the closest thing we've got to a live action Tetsuo!
I need that speech scene!!!
Man, I've checked out part 2 seven times now, and this part gets me every time! I ❤️ this part of the movie!
From water of life through until the credits roll was the best cinema I have ever seen.
I love how you always comply with Arnold's "why" 😆
This scene was so rad. It was exhilarating yet heartbreaking watching Paul slip away. How sad for Chani to watch all the ships ascending into the sky. The love for her people, her home, her Paul. I can’t wait for the next one. Shoot, how far could this cinematic universe could go? We going for a tidy little Trilogy? Or will others try to tell more stories? Have some intergalactic storytelling rivalry?! I’m here for it.
better to keep it as a trilogy. A worm god emperor may be too weird for a protagonist
for a movie
You make Duncan the protagonist, focusing on the scattering.@@carlosandleon
@@Dularr his ghola you mean
Hes speech in the meeting and how he changes hes behaviour after hes drink are my favorite part of this movie
Great analysis. One thing which stood out to me was the use of contrast with scenes from Dune part 1. In particular the scene where they are leaving Caladan and Paul is contemplating his future. Compare this with him walking up to the sietch across the desert. Dune part 1 - Atreides transport ship arises out of the water, The sound track titled "Leaving Caladan" is clean sounding with just a hint of the gutteral octobass in the background. Dune part 2 - Sandworm arises out from the sand in the background. The sound track used is titled "Arrival" and is more foreboding and gutteral with the octobass taking prominence, yet the same theme in "Leaving Caladan" is retained. It's amazing to play these two scenes next to each other to see the similarities and contrasts. Villneuve, Zimmer and Grieg Fraser are absolutely brilliant.
I finally saw this when it released on Max and it was so absolutely fantastic! I have to say this has to be one of the very best films I have ever seen. The cast especially Timothy Chalamet knew amd understood the assignment and absolutely delivered a role of roles! The rest of the cast did the same. This is cinema at it's finest!
My god, you are very good at this. I hope you never stop doing what you're doing.
@heavyspoilers you missed this aspect, it seems. Gurney walks into that hall fully expecting Paul to 'politic' the Fremen into an alliance. Yet he walked out a believer, an apostle of Muad'Dib.
You see it in how Paul masterfully manipulates _specifically_ Gurney with the ring, a sign of his heritage, a heritage that freed Gurney from Harkonnen torment.
It was a show for one; the Fremen didnt know or care for some off-world dognitary called House Atreides. But Gurney did.
It's a masterclass in how humans as social creatures can easily bend to the will of a common leader. Nobody is safe - not the 'superstitious' Fremen, not the 'more cultured' Caladanian.
Everybody has _something_ they desperately must believe in. Human nature rules us all.
Stand or choose your champion keeps replaying in my head till this day
And when he defeats Feyd, limping over to the now dethroned emperor, Atredies ring upon his hand, wordlessly demanding he kneel and kiss it in fealty to him, breaking the hesitation with an authoritative stomp, signifying what will happen to him if he refuses.
@@d3ltaohniner261 bro fer real! That whole sequence needs to be studied and taught in theatre classes
Only seen the movie once so I don't recall the quote but at one point he spells it out for us when he he responds "I do" when told "your father didn't believe in revenge".
Paul putting the ring back on reminds me of what his father said, "A great man doesn't seek to lead. He's called to it." Paul accepts the Fremen's call to be their leader. He is finally accepting the role that he must play.
I disagree with this assessment that Paul is doing this somehow just for his own gain. The path forward for them all to live is for him to embrace this Lisan Al Gaib role. It's not like he's keen on manipulating the Fremen, and rejects doing so through the entire movie until he sees there really is no other way forward. Putting the ring on isn't an indication it's only about revenge. He's just remembering his own lineage, and rolling it into the greater, merged army of Fremen he has gained leadership over. He still is the current leader of House Atreides, and that provides some sway in the Landsraad. The Fremen by themselves, don't.
0:01 this scene + this song. It's masterpiece. I have never seen something soo epic before.
Perfect scene, perfect music, perfect acting, perfect casting. Stunning!
A golden path, illuminated by a universe in flames.
Nothing in comparison with what his son will do.
Thanks for this review, a perfect discussion of those scenes. I've seen the movie twice now, and each time am even more impressed by the directing and acting
As soon he pull the ring out I knew immediately this wasn't about the Freman anymore it's about his Dynasty and his revenge.
“Your mothers warned you of my coming. Fear the moment.”
Pure chills
My fav scene too, with Worm ride right behind. Went to watch it again for these 2 scenes.
I knew Timothee would nail his rallying cry to the Fremen. If you’ve seen his pre battle speech in The King, that much would’ve been certain.
When he entered into the room and gave that speech it gave me the chills and amazing performance by everyone including how Timothee character changed like wow!
13:45 - That scene where Paul shuts down the Fremen ways was straight from the book. Paul goes off on both Stilgar and the Fremen Naibs for their antiquated ways, showing how killing off the strongest and wisest leaders cripples you, rather than strengthens. It was implemented way back during the Butlerian Jihad times, as a way to show leadership in such a harsh place.
The way Timothee Chalamet pronounces the Fremen language is almost chilling. The way he plays with his cadence and volume makes for a truly intimidating speech
This scene was chilling and so powerful. Amazing film and amazing scene. So many amazing scenes!
Seen the movie twice so far, and after Paul drinks the Water of Life, it takes such a tonal shift, and I get chills with Paul beginning his "villain" arc. (I use the term "villain" loosely, of course.)
you're not wrong ;)