I stumbled upon the "Jodorowsky's Dune" documentary at a film festival in 2014, watched it and liked it a lot. Haven't read the book(s), probably never will. Haven't seen David Lynch's adaptation, probably never will. Haven't seen the mini series, probably never will. I'm not even sure if I'll watch the upcoming Denis Villeneuve movie. The subject of "Dune" is, in other words, not THAT interesting to me. Yet, every time you've uploaded a part of this series here on TH-cam, I have watched the whole thing in one sitting. Simply because the way you told this story is so captivating. Great work, Henry! Now I just might go back and re-watch all four parts...
The movie did turn out fantastic and I was eagerly awaiting its release this month. Now, it is for my birthday, so that's okay, and I get the why of it but things have got to get more under control so that this kind of pointless delay, from the pov of the project, don't interfere.
Fascinating content. I appreciate the huge effort you've put into this series, but when time permits, please complete it with Part 5, your review of the movie...
All 4 parts shear genius DisRegaurding Henry.................Thank You for this artful revelation matched Only by the experience of Reading Dune for the very first time.....................I had to relearn an entirely new vocabulary to follow the story line...............which I finally did...............eventually;)))))............I don't even know you and yet your story telling made me feel like your ah friend....................talking about something I never knew.................and Thanks you and this art.............. now I do...................Thank You DisRegarding Henry;)...................Brava...................Be Well, Michael;)
Alan Smithe was ah better movie in mho..........why?...............because ya gotta make ah movie like ya wanna make love because you LOVE IT.................Lynch's heart was never really in it..................he didn't love it................ We always take credit for our successes and so quickly tend to refute our lessons and challenges which teach so much about life and what we want to accomplish while living it.............Thanks to you I can actually say..............." I know ah guy"..................I still love that line;)..................Michael;)
i think the KEY to why the first two dune games was better than the first dune movie and the serie was mainly (but not only) that the game designers understood that in other to make a good game or even a good movie out of the book u have to take the CORE SPIRIT or concept of the book first and then try to be as respectful as possible about the details but at the same time adapting the details that is natural or possible into the game or movie and leave behind the elements that dont work... they biggest mistake book readers and film makers do is that they have to COPY the book as much as possible into a new format like a movie or a game instead of ADAPTING the CORE CONCEPT and then have freedom to do everything else w the details around that core, instead they seem to begin in the wrong order....!
Ive enjoyed these videos. However when you say it was a problem in the lynch film to make the baron diseased is a bit off the mark. In the books the baron does have an unknown and incurable albeit non fatal disease. His disease caused him to get fat among other things.
Another outstanding history. . .really good research and presentation. . .all the behind the scenes stuff is cool because it makes one aware of the other projects that are worth checking out
A big problem was Alec Newman as Paul. He simply did not have the charisma to play the part, unlike Kyle MacLachlan, who literally became a star despite the Lynch film's box office failure. Even worse, the actress who played Chani was absolutely terrible. And the costumes - !!!!!!
This was an excellent series, I've always been curious about Jodrowsky's Dune, but I actually quite like the Lynch film, though I pretty like all of Lynch's movies anyway. For me, the main issue with Lynch's film are the action scenes, which he clearly didn't tackle with the same amount of enthusiasm he did in the opening scene with the Emperor and the Guild Navigator, which is so atmospheric, with such an amazing set designs, and the dialogue, both by what is said, and with what isn't, but is implied, creates a lot of tension. From that point on I was really interested in exploring this story. That said, you seem very generous about Blade Runner "2", yeah it was nice to get a big budget title that took some risks, but it's a sequel movie that didn't need it, I felt like including Harrison Ford was a bad idea, he looked awful in it, he just kind seems in there for the member berries. And the entire thing is kind of a slog to get through, it goes for a long time, but I don't feel like it has all that much to say firstly that hasn't already been said in other works and that were not only better, but their messages were delivered in less obvious and predictable ways. I gave the film another shot a couple of years later and my opinion of it has only lowered, and it's the reason I've avoided Villenevue's Dune thus far. I'm still open to watching it, but with Blade Runner 2 being a big fail for me, I'm apprehensive.
You lost me at… _“I’m glad to see he isn’t afraid to update the source material…”_ 🤮 Trying to fit current social trends is never a good reason to alter an artist’s source material. Terrible take.
also the dune 2000 game was ghe first of the dune games that was SUBPAR, the series was actually better dispite their weird flaws and costume design choices...
why are all the costumes in dune 2000 look like it was made in the 80s?? i mesn when the same weird costume designer made the clothes in the 'fifth elemnet movie' it was also weird but FUTURISTIC,since the game was in the far future (game based on movie was better than the movie, just like the dune games, lol)... so dune 2000 should alos reflect they clothing style of early 2000...?
33:29 - "beefed up the roles for the actresses....brings much needed diversity" (much needed for who?): the Gods of DEI must be fed and feel satiated no matter what. In the reality of today, turned upside down, this, apparently, passes as "a creative decision". Changing Liet Kynes from a male to a female ("Afro-American"!) _without_ any reason other than DEI, and without expanding on his role while completely ignoring the supposedly cherished "source material" was very innovative and daring. #empoweringwomen! Lynch would've never thought of this as something one could dream about to accomplish in his/her lifetime. Since we're on this track, I'm all for replacing the Bene Gesserite sisterhood with the Bene Gesserit brotherhood and renaming the Fremen to the Frewomen. Play big! 33:34 - "and work to contemporize the movie with political and social commentary": the favourite toy of the contemporary socially _sentient_ , _sensitive_ and _responsible_ filmmakers guided by the _contemporary_ corporate principles a.k.a DEI and environmentalism a la Greta Thunberg. Forms must be obeyed. The "contemporizing political and social commentary" reflects the political agenda of the period in which it proliferates, thus debasing the perpetual value of the work: two decades from now this social and political commentary will be looked on as an anecdote but who it occurs to now? 33:48 - "push away Baron Vladimir Harkonnen from the degenerate gay villain": message received. Gays must be portrayed like the deceased at a funeral service: good or nothing. If the source material renders them in an "unacceptable manner" the characters must be either removed or transformed into the diametrically contrary kind: for example, boys for sport to girls for sport. Just so both you and the commentators quoted know: Excerpt from Frank Herbert, Dune. Book 1, Chapter 21: «One of the guardsmen beside him coughed. The Baron turned toward the man. “I am hungry.” “Yes, m’Lord.” “And I wish to be diverted while you’re clearing out that room and studying its secrets for me,” the Baron rumbled. The guardsman lowered his eyes. “What diversion does m’Lord wish?” “I’ll be in my sleeping chambers,” the Baron said. “Bring me that young fellow we bought on Gamont, the one with the lovely eyes. Drug him well. I don’t feel like wrestling.”» Excerpts from Frank Herbert, Dune. Part 3, Chapter 38: «The Baron Vladimir Harkonnen raged down the corridor from his private apartments, flitting through patches of late afternoon sunlight that poured down from high windows. He bobbed and twisted in his suspensors with violent movements The Baron held his voice flat, almost devoid of emphasis: “Did I not say these things to you?” Nefud nodded. “And did I not say that you were to check all slave boys sent to me and that you were to do this yourself...personally?” “Did you, perchance, not see the blemish on the thigh of the one sent me this evening?” the Baron asked. “Is it possible you-” Again, Nefud nodded. “Uncle.” The Baron whirled, stared at Feyd-Rautha standing in the doorway. The presence of his nephew here, now-the look of hurry that the young man could not quite conceal-all revealed much. Feyd-Rautha had his own spy system focused on the Baron “I presume you left matters peaceful in the slave quarters, Feyd,” the Baron said. “I’ve been playing cheops with the slavemaster,” Feyd-Rautha said, and he thought: What has gone wrong? The boy we sent to my uncle has obviously been killed. But he was perfect for the job. Even Hawat couldn’t have made a better choice. The boy was perfect! “Playing pyramid chess,” the Baron said. “How nice. Did you win?” “I...ah, yes, Uncle.” And Feyd-Rautha strove to contain his disquiet. The Baron snapped his fingers. “Nefud, you wish to be restored to my good graces?” “Sire, what have I done?” Nefud quavered. “That’s unimportant now,” the Baron said. “Feyd has beaten the slavemaster at cheops. Did you hear that?” “Yes...Sire.” “I wish you to take three men and go to the slavemaster,” the Baron said. “Garrote the slavemaster. Bring his body to me when you’ve finished that I may see it was done properly. We cannot have such inept chess players in our employ.” “There is a body in my chambers that I wish removed,” the Baron said, and he kept his hand at the projectile weapon beneath his robes, thankful that his shield was the best.» Case closed. In short, a homosexual sadistic type killing on a whim. Where did Lynch misfire? What did Villeneuve push the Baron away from actually? P.S. From the "Terminology of the Imperium" to the Dune novel: "Gamont: third planet of Niushe; noted for its hedonistic culture and exotic sexual practices." Exotic sexual practices.
again dune 2000 was a messy, like power rangers meets kung fu fighting, meets theater drama meets movie...🙄 sometimes it works well , sometimes it flops on its azzz, like no concistency , like random chefs from the muppet show tryin to make random results out of random recipes based again on random ingredients...i mean atleast was nothing wrong w their imagination, but skills not so much...
none of the movies were great...im very picky about movies, none of these are classics, i think the miniseries made a better effort actually dispite its flaws...the movies are like a 7,5/10 for me or a 3,5/5 or 77%/100 but i cant give it higher, they are not masterpices at al, sorry but they are not, they are good, but thats it, not more...
I watched each one of your videos, and thoroughly enjoyed them. You had me, all the way up until you said, "....some much needed diversity. " You HAD to do it. Yuck!
Of course you are. The only true diversity (diversity of thought), is something that people like you simply cannot tolerate. It really made sooooo much difference to the story, to gender-swap Dr. Liet Kynes, didn't it? You still made some excellent content, though.
@@khristophertanase3324 If diversity of thought is the only kind that matters, then what's wrong with someone having a different opinion than you on a particular subject?
What do you expect? This channel's DNA is progressive and wokist. Look at how it lauds the stuff going on with films in the 1970s. Not surprising really.
Trying to make Dune into an action flick, ey? No wonder it never came to fruition? About the TV-features... it was alright, up until a certain point, when the fremen started to undress at a stop on there way to the sietch. And that scene killed those for me. It was an immersion thing, because seeing Uwe Ochsenknecht (though a prolific german actor) trying to portait a Fremen leader ina n enviroment of deprivation, like Arakis, sporting quite a bit of a beer induced potbelly ... no sir, just no (also the scene makes no frikking sense in the context of the story at THAT moment). It was also not helped by the actrees of Chiany with her rather flappy looking breasts. Well TL:DR I switch of the TV and never returned to those
Your videos on these sometimes obscure but always remarkable topics are highly appreciated
He's back!
Congratulations for finishing your "Dune" series and good luck in your next videos! You rock, Henry!
This series was incredible. Thank you so much for putting such hard work into it
With the success of Dune 2021, we will be able to see Villeneuve’s full vision with Dune Part two in 2023.
I stumbled upon the "Jodorowsky's Dune" documentary at a film festival in 2014, watched it and liked it a lot. Haven't read the book(s), probably never will. Haven't seen David Lynch's adaptation, probably never will. Haven't seen the mini series, probably never will. I'm not even sure if I'll watch the upcoming Denis Villeneuve movie.
The subject of "Dune" is, in other words, not THAT interesting to me.
Yet, every time you've uploaded a part of this series here on TH-cam, I have watched the whole thing in one sitting. Simply because the way you told this story is so captivating. Great work, Henry!
Now I just might go back and re-watch all four parts...
The movie did turn out fantastic and I was eagerly awaiting its release this month. Now, it is for my birthday, so that's okay, and I get the why of it but things have got to get more under control so that this kind of pointless delay, from the pov of the project, don't interfere.
Awesome series! Loved every chapter ^
are you doing the modern ocean? all we really need is a story synopsis c'mon dude
Yes yes yes
Just saw it. Twice! Lived up to my expectations...and then some.
Awesome documentary
Fascinating content. I appreciate the huge effort you've put into this series, but when time permits, please complete it with Part 5, your review of the movie...
Title undersells this min series as it's about the history or Dune, not just Jodorowsky's Dune
I KNOW, it was still very layered though and I’m glad to have watched through all of it.
Been waiting for this for a HOT minute. Super excited to watch it!!
both games grest in different ways, especially dune 2 that i played most in my youth😊😊😊
Thank you so much for this series!
You produce fascinating videos!
All 4 parts shear genius DisRegaurding Henry.................Thank You for this artful revelation matched Only by the experience of Reading Dune for the very first time.....................I had to relearn an entirely new vocabulary to follow the story line...............which I finally did...............eventually;)))))............I don't even know you and yet your story telling made me feel like your ah friend....................talking about something I never knew.................and Thanks you and this art.............. now I do...................Thank You DisRegarding Henry;)...................Brava...................Be Well, Michael;)
Alan Smithe was ah better movie in mho..........why?...............because ya gotta make ah movie like ya wanna make love because you LOVE IT.................Lynch's heart was never really in it..................he didn't love it................ We always take credit for our successes and so quickly tend to refute our lessons and challenges which teach so much about life and what we want to accomplish while living it.............Thanks to you I can actually say..............." I know ah guy"..................I still love that line;)..................Michael;)
;)
The si-fi Chanel’s Dune was the most accurate and was amazing 😍.
it was cheesy as hell
Thank you for this series!!!
Another great video my man.
i think the KEY to why the first two dune games was better than the first dune movie and the serie was mainly (but not only) that the game designers understood that in other to make a good game or even a good movie out of the book u have to take the CORE SPIRIT or concept of the book first and
then try to be as respectful as possible about the details but at the same time adapting the details that is natural or possible into the game or movie and leave behind the elements that dont work... they biggest mistake book readers and film makers do is that they have to COPY the book as much as possible into a new format like a movie
or a game instead of ADAPTING the CORE CONCEPT and then have freedom to do everything else w the details around that core, instead they seem to begin in the wrong order....!
Ive enjoyed these videos. However when you say it was a problem in the lynch film to make the baron diseased is a bit off the mark. In the books the baron does have an unknown and incurable albeit non fatal disease. His disease caused him to get fat among other things.
What a phenomenal retrospective. 👏
Great in depth documentary about Dune! Thank you for your work on these series. I saw the new Dune (2021) and it was great.
I would love to see you talk about the modern ocean
Another outstanding history. . .really good research and presentation. . .all the behind the scenes stuff is cool because it makes one aware of the other projects that are worth checking out
A big problem was Alec Newman as Paul. He simply did not have the charisma to play the part, unlike Kyle MacLachlan, who literally became a star despite the Lynch film's box office failure. Even worse, the actress who played Chani was absolutely terrible. And the costumes - !!!!!!
Yeah I really loathe that version. I guess the CGI is a 'bit' better but overall it's a mess.
Top tier doc! Loving it! Well done. The classic novel is complex enough for a ton of adaptations but always seems problematic
This was an excellent series, I've always been curious about Jodrowsky's Dune, but I actually quite like the Lynch film, though I pretty like all of Lynch's movies anyway. For me, the main issue with Lynch's film are the action scenes, which he clearly didn't tackle with the same amount of enthusiasm he did in the opening scene with the Emperor and the Guild Navigator, which is so atmospheric, with such an amazing set designs, and the dialogue, both by what is said, and with what isn't, but is implied, creates a lot of tension. From that point on I was really interested in exploring this story.
That said, you seem very generous about Blade Runner "2", yeah it was nice to get a big budget title that took some risks, but it's a sequel movie that didn't need it, I felt like including Harrison Ford was a bad idea, he looked awful in it, he just kind seems in there for the member berries. And the entire thing is kind of a slog to get through, it goes for a long time, but I don't feel like it has all that much to say firstly that hasn't already been said in other works and that were not only better, but their messages were delivered in less obvious and predictable ways.
I gave the film another shot a couple of years later and my opinion of it has only lowered, and it's the reason I've avoided Villenevue's Dune thus far. I'm still open to watching it, but with Blade Runner 2 being a big fail for me, I'm apprehensive.
Excellent series, thankyou
Loved this series of videos, now we kinda need you review of movie
D O O N
Can you do a vid about “L’enfer” by Henri-Georges Clouzot
Great stuff, man! :)
sooooo in another timeline, Robert Pattison is Muad'Dib?
He would have ate. I mean it's not too far from his current "make the weirdest movie possible" career.
New antman inspired by jodo dune
no commercials thamk u xxxx
Villeneuve has got the skills.
You lost me at… _“I’m glad to see he isn’t afraid to update the source material…”_ 🤮
Trying to fit current social trends is never a good reason to alter an artist’s source material. Terrible take.
See I was willing to hear him out first... then he lowkey called Frank Herbert and David Lynch homophobes.
@@ariesdemiurge Yeah, and there’s nothing to those claims. Comes off as hollow and performative (but for who these days?).
also the dune 2000 game was ghe first of the dune games that was SUBPAR, the series was actually better dispite their weird flaws and costume design choices...
why are all the costumes in dune 2000 look like it was made in the 80s?? i mesn when the same weird costume designer made the clothes in the 'fifth elemnet movie' it was also weird but FUTURISTIC,since the game was in the far future (game based on movie was better than the movie, just like the dune games, lol)... so dune 2000 should alos reflect they clothing style of early 2000...?
I still can't get over the obligatory coke spoons on every character's face...
33:29 - "beefed up the roles for the actresses....brings much needed diversity" (much needed for who?): the Gods of DEI must be fed and feel satiated no matter what. In the reality of today, turned upside down, this, apparently, passes as "a creative decision". Changing Liet Kynes from a male to a female ("Afro-American"!) _without_ any reason other than DEI, and without expanding on his role while completely ignoring the supposedly cherished "source material" was very innovative and daring. #empoweringwomen! Lynch would've never thought of this as something one could dream about to accomplish in his/her lifetime. Since we're on this track, I'm all for replacing the Bene Gesserite sisterhood with the Bene Gesserit brotherhood and renaming the Fremen to the Frewomen. Play big!
33:34 - "and work to contemporize the movie with political and social commentary": the favourite toy of the contemporary socially _sentient_ , _sensitive_ and _responsible_ filmmakers guided by the _contemporary_ corporate principles a.k.a DEI and environmentalism a la Greta Thunberg. Forms must be obeyed. The "contemporizing political and social commentary" reflects the political agenda of the period in which it proliferates, thus debasing the perpetual value of the work: two decades from now this social and political commentary will be looked on as an anecdote but who it occurs to now?
33:48 - "push away Baron Vladimir Harkonnen from the degenerate gay villain": message received. Gays must be portrayed like the deceased at a funeral service: good or nothing. If the source material renders them in an "unacceptable manner" the characters must be either removed or transformed into the diametrically contrary kind: for example, boys for sport to girls for sport.
Just so both you and the commentators quoted know:
Excerpt from Frank Herbert, Dune. Book 1, Chapter 21:
«One of the guardsmen beside him coughed. The Baron turned toward the man. “I am hungry.” “Yes, m’Lord.” “And I wish to be diverted while you’re clearing out that room and studying its secrets for me,” the Baron rumbled.
The guardsman lowered his eyes. “What diversion does m’Lord wish?” “I’ll be in my sleeping chambers,” the Baron said. “Bring me that young fellow we bought on Gamont, the one with the lovely eyes. Drug him well. I don’t feel like wrestling.”»
Excerpts from Frank Herbert, Dune. Part 3, Chapter 38:
«The Baron Vladimir Harkonnen raged down the corridor from his private apartments, flitting through patches of late afternoon sunlight that poured down from high windows. He bobbed and twisted in his suspensors with violent movements
The Baron held his voice flat, almost devoid of emphasis: “Did I not say these things to you?” Nefud nodded. “And did I not say that you were to check all slave boys sent to me and that you were to do this yourself...personally?” “Did you, perchance, not see the blemish on the thigh of the one sent me this evening?” the Baron asked. “Is it possible you-” Again, Nefud nodded. “Uncle.” The Baron whirled, stared at Feyd-Rautha standing in the doorway. The presence of his nephew here, now-the look of hurry that the young man could not quite conceal-all revealed much. Feyd-Rautha had his own spy system focused on the Baron
“I presume you left matters peaceful in the slave quarters, Feyd,” the Baron said. “I’ve been playing cheops with the slavemaster,” Feyd-Rautha said, and he thought: What has gone wrong? The boy we sent to my uncle has obviously been killed. But he was perfect for the job. Even Hawat couldn’t have made a better choice. The boy was perfect! “Playing pyramid chess,” the Baron said. “How nice. Did you win?”
“I...ah, yes, Uncle.”
And Feyd-Rautha strove to contain his disquiet. The Baron snapped his fingers.
“Nefud, you wish to be restored to my good graces?” “Sire, what have I done?” Nefud quavered.
“That’s unimportant now,” the Baron said. “Feyd has beaten the slavemaster at cheops. Did you hear that?”
“Yes...Sire.”
“I wish you to take three men and go to the slavemaster,” the Baron said. “Garrote the slavemaster. Bring his body to me when you’ve finished that I may see it was done properly. We cannot have such inept chess players in our employ.”
“There is a body in my chambers that I wish removed,” the Baron said, and he kept his hand at the projectile weapon beneath his robes, thankful that his shield was the best.»
Case closed. In short, a homosexual sadistic type killing on a whim. Where did Lynch misfire? What did Villeneuve push the Baron away from actually?
P.S. From the "Terminology of the Imperium" to the Dune novel: "Gamont: third planet of Niushe; noted for its hedonistic culture and exotic sexual practices."
Exotic sexual practices.
Fucking love ur videos so much
again dune 2000 was a messy, like power rangers meets kung fu fighting, meets theater drama meets movie...🙄 sometimes it works well , sometimes it flops on its azzz, like no concistency , like random chefs from the muppet show tryin to make random results out of random recipes based again on random ingredients...i mean atleast was nothing wrong w their imagination, but skills not so much...
none of the movies were great...im very picky about movies, none of these are classics, i think the miniseries made a better effort actually dispite its flaws...the movies are like a 7,5/10 for me or a 3,5/5 or 77%/100 but i cant give it higher, they are not masterpices at al, sorry but they are not, they are good, but thats it, not more...
I watched each one of your videos, and thoroughly enjoyed them. You had me, all the way up until you said, "....some much needed diversity. " You HAD to do it. Yuck!
we're glad to lose you, then. bye! ;)
Of course you are. The only true diversity (diversity of thought), is something that people like you simply cannot tolerate. It really made sooooo much difference to the story, to gender-swap Dr. Liet Kynes, didn't it? You still made some excellent content, though.
@@khristophertanase3324 If diversity of thought is the only kind that matters, then what's wrong with someone having a different opinion than you on a particular subject?
What do you expect? This channel's DNA is progressive and wokist. Look at how it lauds the stuff going on with films in the 1970s. Not surprising really.
Yep, such a silly, schoolboy take. Let’s alter an artist’s vision to fit our regressive social trends. 🙄
It's gonna suck
You have no idea how wrong you are
@@koichidignitythief7429 no kidding. I thought it was fantastic
aged like milk
Trying to make Dune into an action flick, ey? No wonder it never came to fruition?
About the TV-features... it was alright, up until a certain point, when the fremen started to undress at a stop on there way to the sietch. And that scene killed those for me. It was an immersion thing, because seeing Uwe Ochsenknecht (though a prolific german actor) trying to portait a Fremen leader ina n enviroment of deprivation, like Arakis, sporting quite a bit of a beer induced potbelly ... no sir, just no (also the scene makes no frikking sense in the context of the story at THAT moment). It was also not helped by the actrees of Chiany with her rather flappy looking breasts.
Well TL:DR I switch of the TV and never returned to those