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Trying to FIX: LCD TV with Smashed Screen
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ส.ค. 2019
- Hi, this 'trying to fix' video shows me attempting to repair a LCD television with a smashed screen.
Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things.
I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series.
Many thanks, Vince.
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if you take the metal casing off you will get the actual panel model so you can order that and use the metal housing you have
www.panelook.com, www.displayspecifications.com
10:13 wow thanks for the shout-out! 👍 I just watched this till the end and was shocked. 😮
It is a pleasure Paul. Whenever I see a TV I think Tampatec :-)
I love how you keep plugging mates' channels. I've been subscribing to every suggestion. Not disappointed.
I got a tv out of a dumpster, a Magnavox 32 inch. the screen was broken but I kept the parts. My mom brought home a Funai TV from a yard sale, the same TV, turned out the mainboard was bad so I swapped them. Then my nephew was given the same type of TV, struck by lightning, again a Funai, I put the power supply board in his. Fixed two with the junk one. So, keep your parts!!
What a coincidence lol the same TV 3 times!
Watch the last video of DIY Perks, "Turning Smashed TVs into Realistic Artificial Daylight"
Paulo Henrique was just gonna recommend this! Would love to see Vince do that project
I was just about to say the same thing! I have one I am doing that with atm.
A cool coincidence is that I just got power supply for converting a broken monitor I bought for 8 USD into a lamp :)
Ah ha. I was going to say that. I saw that video last night and bought 2 broken 42 inch tvs today for £10
My thoughts exactly!
I'm glad you've switched up the music you play when you fast forward. The emotional piano stuff was jarring.
2 weeks off then 2 vids in one day! Yay welcome back mate
Thanks Eddie, congrats on the new channel :-)
Thanks mate!!
Hey Vince. We had a Sharp AQUOS TV and it had a problem that there’s no audio or sound on HDMI 2, among all 3 HDMI inputs and I believe our TV got repaired at our local Sharp Service Center cause there’s a problem with the motherboard of the various inputs (where HDMI, Component, Composite, RF, RGB and USB where placed) cause I charge my phone using my NES Classic Power cord by plug it on the TV’s USB port and i charge it many times. So we bring it to repair and probably the new board they install has a fault with the sound on HDMI 2.
3:00 hey Vince when you were going to unplug the TV I was worried, “oh no, it can possibly have a charge still stored!” Until you turned it on a few times as you explained what I was worried about. If you try this on a PS3 and PS4 after it was plugged in while in the off setting, it will still hold a charge, so it was always important to turn it on and off whilst disconnected to make sure it doesn’t blow anything crucial upon opening.
It can also help to short out the capacitors to drain them especially on the hot/high voltage side, but do it with something that isolates yourself from any remaining charge like an insulated screwdriver.
surely the remote wouldn't discharge any capacitors? the tv was plugged out at the mains when he was pressing the remote. would he not have to press the power button on the tv?
1:14:
Logik: Aaaaah. Geez oh my screen oh
Me: (Laughs)
Remote: poor logik (And cries)
All : (Laugher)
1:09:
Logik: Ow. Ok hold on hold on I just drop that on my screen
Me: (Laughs)
You've got yourself a free picture frame there.😜
So pleased to have you back Vince. I've been getting serious withdrawal from your fix it videos the last couple of weeks. Great stuff!
Thanks Neil :-)
Hi Vince, You inspired me to take a look at a TV that i knocked off it's perch and broke the screen last year. I thought it was scrap until I saw your 'Trying to fix a LCD TV' vid and thought why not have a go at taking it apart and looking on eBay for a replacment screen. Sure enough I found a screen for £49 inc postage which the vendor says is in very good working order. I'm awaiting delivery so I'll repost to let you know the outcome.
Thanks for the insperation Vince
Tim
New screen arived, fitted and fixed,brilliant! Thanks for the video advice Vince, keep them coming.
Its a shame to see this TV go! it's been with us for many fix it videos.
The problem with LCD TV's is the screen panel is the most important, most expensive, and most delicate part of the whole thing. It's a shame as the panel simply can't be repaired when it breaks like that.
One thing you might be able to salvage from that panel is the backlight however, it looks to be encased in the panel. They can make a very neat 12V light source, we've got one lighting up our shed/summer house , it does a good job , it's brighter than you think, the light must loose a lot of strength going through the pixels.
We were able to repair a TV of ours by replacing the panel, but we got one that had I think one number difference to the model, and it works in the TV but the TV just turns off on its own now and then, the replacement panel we got must have a different power need maybe? So it is important you follow the part number of the panel exactly.
You were right about the HOT and COLD on the PCB, the hot side is the power supply, which turns 240V into 12 and 5 volt for the cold side. The hot and cold sides are usually on separate PCBs, so you can replace the power supply if it breaks or just the logic board if the HDMI goes or something. Here it's likely combined to save money.
You are right about the small cable in the side for the backlight, and the large cable being for the picture. The large cable goes into what's called the TCON board I believe, that large PCB that went along the top back of the panel. From what I know is not good to touch or put pressure on the TCON board, especially on the top of it like you did at 6:40 , from what I know theres many small ribbon cables going from the tcon board straight into the panel pixel grid itself, which is very delicate. If you do get a replacement panel , avoid holding it at the top , or which ever side the tcon board is on.
Thanks mate, great info especially about the TCON :-)
I missed this guy, great video as always!
"don't copy what you see" mate when i take shit apart i wouldn't of thought to drain a capacitor like that so well done.
Vince back in town yay 😀
You could keep the backlight which could be LED as well as the fresnel lenses and light diffusers! Cheers 😊
Thanks Mr. Vince, this one turned out as I suspected. I got a smashed LCD free at a garage sale this summer from a nice lady who told me her husband said it was broken. It's a Vizio 32" D series. As it turns out I got extremely lucky thru a facebook marketplace deal I got a as-is D series panel (missing cables, remote, feet, power cable) and was able to merge parts from both devices into one working solid TV. cleaned up nicely. I use it to test game consoles in my garage workshop. total investment $50 from the FB marketplace find.
You're correct with the hot and cold Vince, it refers to high and low voltage. I would take the metal shroud off and see if there's a number refering to the panel only is that number seems to only refer to that model TV, try ebay and aliexpress.
Thanks Old Rogue :-)
I don't know why, but I gave it thumbs up before I even saw it.
Haha, I like viewers like you :-)
Be careful Vince if you do buy another panel... Different revisions of the same panel can sometimes need different firmware to operate correctly. In fact some panels from different manufacturers are electrically compatible but won't work for the same reason. The Vestel TVs (of which this isn't one) in particular are notorious for using multiple panel types on the same model of TV.
I agree about just buying a Samsung instead though... This is a generic Chinese set and really you've done well to get several years out of it.
Thanks Jason J :-)
I was just thinking to myself that it has been a while since I saw a new MMV video...and here we are. :D
As far as fixing flatscreen TVs goes, my general rule is if the LCD panel is still good and the backlight works, then I will try to fix - usually bad caps or I do a board swap. If bad LCD I strip components and boards and sell on ebay, then bin the rest like the bad panel, plastic bezel/stand, etc.
I do this regularly Vince, and you will be better off going on Facebook and finding a TV where the screen works but board has gone. But for reference that panel splits into about 5 different parts, you have the metal back panel, then you have a reflector panel, then an led array for backlight, then between 2 and 4 light diffuser panels, then the actual LCD screen, then the bezel to hold it all together. Dont scrap it, keep it to one side and look for a 22" TV on Facebook, you'll pick one up these days for about £25
Always get people asking me to fix these TVs I always tell them the screen is worth more than the tv as that is the truth, sometimes I get the "yes it is repairable" back chat. So I just leave them in their naive state of mind.
When I thought you where dead the other day I went as far as to go to your website, that thing is a mess. It also seems as if you don't have a twitter, this may seem like a negative, but I say good on you for not letting youtube and alike take over your life.
Haha, the website is really bad...It has been on my to do list for 3 years now :-) I am useless on social media :-)
Clicked at the top to load Instagram DM’s and the video appeared. Haha great timing
Did you check AliExpress? All sorts of Chinese vendors knocking out new parts for old TVs. I got some backlights for an old LCD TV for £15 (including delivery)... no longer sold in UK and some places were offering recycled parts for silly money. Oh, and your videos encouraged me to have a go and try to fix it. Thanks.
Keep up the great work man
Thanks :-)
Thank you for these videos Vince. While you can't win everytime you have inspired me to buy and fix some stuff. Cheers
I did this with a 37 inch LCD that was thrown away lg screen searched eBay by model no and found the cheapest screen for £32 posted slight mark in polarising film cheap screen been using TV for 4 or 5 months I checked it with a DVD player had sound and a quarter of the screen still worked so I knew the electronics were all fine. I also got a chuckled 32 inch sharp only buttons on top needed glueingin place it works fine just no stand my 2 Sony Trinitron CRT 21 inch sets were also thrown away but they were fine both with superb tubes and fine for retro gaming.
Nice :-)
i know this was a fail BUT .. make it into a win .. there is a video by a youtuber " DIY PERKS" in a video called "Turning Smashed TVs into Realistic Artificial Daylight" he took a backlight from one of these tvs broken screen and all and made an amazing light that is really cool .. be fun too see you use it too do that .. and .. you could use it as a fantastic diffused light for video setups when doing electronics and more .... oh ... and .. LESS waste too ..
It is a great idea :-)
Hello Vincent, I just checked the panel and here is the info: 1920x1080, 60 Hz TN panel with LED backlight. The backlight operates at 39.2 V (min) to 47.6 V (max). You can buy any panel of another brand with similar specs. Just make sure the resolution, refresh rate and backlight voltage matches with that of the existing one and also the position of the LVDS connector. I have swapped numerous laptop and monitor screens this way and they have worked every single time. Sometimes, upgrading is also possible. You can look for LG panels which have better colors than ChiMei Innolux (Optoelectronics). Do feel free to get in touch with me for any help you need.
Thanks for the great information :-)
I need help
There was a video released just now where someone turned the backlight and the diffusor panels of a tv into a daylight panel/lamp. Maybe that would be a nice project to not let the TV go to total waste. At least some parts could be salvaged and turned into something useful. That panel, hung up on a wall, very convincingly looked like an open window on a sunny day.
LOGIK is a Curry’s/PC World own brand! And a lot of unbranded sets (and some from Argos like Toshiba, Alba, Bush, Goodman’s) is made by a Turkish company called VESTEL
This particular set isn't a Vestel. To be honest I have no idea who actually manufactures it but it's not Vestel.
www.panelook.com/ may help narrow down who originally supplied the LCD panel to LOGIK. All of the panels came from a single LCD supplier, either LG/Samsung (Korean) or TCL (China), I'd wager
Yeah i noticed when i had a bush tv and it wouldnt power up so when i took it appart to replace the diodes i noticed it said on the power board vestel
Question ,??? I had another 32" TV tip over, screen broke...(I hoped since TV still worked) there would be a line out...only line ins...anyway to get one of those as an out? Could use the SMART of it to non smart screen? Or monitor?
I had this TV and it's pretty good. I looked for a similar size/price for a 1080p a while ago and struggled, it seems "budget" TVs all had 720 panels.
Yeah... I found it on eBay several times within a few minutes... as well as other sites. Try searching the model number of the TV on the back rather than the exact panel. A lot of people sell them with bad listings. Also if the listings I’ve found are no longer available then simply look for logik 22” Panel or Logik LCD 22” and you may find one with the same pin out. Generally if you get a logik TV panel that’s the same size and pins are the same and same location then it will work regardless, also if that fails use PanelLook and AlliExpress generally will have the panels for you. Although I will say that there is always someone selling a 22” TV or small tv such as this on Facebook marketplace for around £30-40 so it might be easier just to do that
Thanks Matthew:-)
Some times the LCD driver can drive diverted LCD screens, so even bigger or smaller screens. Just google for LCD drivers. Also you can get a LCD driver with TV tuner for a old computer LCD monitor.
From experoence, it is rarely useful to try and get replacement panel for TVs, as they end up being about 80% of the cost of the actual TV, so it is often a better idea to just get a new TV. You can definitely sell all the other parts, like the boards or the frame for some profit, as those pieces are actually worth repairing.
You can salvage the led or ccfl inside the panel and sold it as spare or use as your own spare part for future repair or make a light projects with it.
This looks great
Hi Vince, on AliExpress there is a seller called Kreplacement and you send him the details and a photo of your screen and he will let you know if he can supply. BTW I think you were bored and needed to fix something so you put your thumb through it.. 😜
Haha, I didn't even get a satisfying crack. Just turned it on to see it broken :-( I will look him/her up. Cheers :-)
This channel needs a 4K camera
A smashed screen is the only problem that makes inconvenient to fix the TV.
When the screen is smashed, boom, game over.
If you want to "repair it" at all costs , you might want to buy the very same TV , better if used, and then you'll have a working TV and a replacement logic board for future use.
You can always take it all the way apart and slip the screen out and leave the back light in it and use it as a light in something. You can make a skylight out of a big one.
Hi HOT AND COLD IS secondary and primary please do not touch where the big reservoir capacitor or capacitors are they hold in excess of 400volt it’s enough to stop your heart so be careful holding or touching around the hot side, even if the board was unplugged after being turned on they can hold the charge for ages
And the screen of a tv is approx 89% of the cost of a tv so don’t be fooled by people selling a damaged tv saying
“screen broken cheap to fix quoted £60 I’m too busy to get it fixed “
Thanks for the info :-)
Argh! What a nightmare! It's worth continuing to look on eBay - from time to time Logik parts like that do turn up for sale. I have same make TV for the bedroom and after about a month searching a DVD drive turned up on there, as well as a replacement screen too.
Love that SCART connector....
The board is probably using standard ldvs so u can try similar pannel with similar size and layout and it should work. I kind of like that board it has quite a lot of inputs really helpful for testing out stuff. most tvs now days only have hdmi and composite. This has scart , component , composite , hdmi , vga , tuner , and it looks like a compact flash slot probably for old digital cameras
Mostly a Screen is too expensive for a bigger Screen 17" and Higher, I have repair the LCD Screen from My Samsung Ultrabook. it costs round about 100 pound from the UK, but now i have a Touchscreen. I Bought the Comlet Pannel, on Ebay
Vince I was going to suggest if your other tv that has the same remote is the same size pop the back off look at the board and Model number and see if you could find that one instead . You may find a local tv repair shop can get the panel or may even have the same tv with a blown power board that you could have the screen from. Done a lot of repair works on LCD and led tv's and there was a seller online who had a fairly big catalogue of older and off brand spares I used . If I can find any of my old invoices I can let you know who they are .
Thanks Dave, unfortunately the other Kitchen TV is a lot smaller. I used that one in the original XXL Nintendo Switch video that I did a while back. I think it is 15" or thereabouts. Loads have mentioned I could change it into a light which may be useful for filming especially close up. I think I might try it :-)
@@Mymatevince no worries mate . It's a shame the other was too small would of been interesting to see if they were basically the same product without the brand logo. And yes you could turn it into a light in fact diy perks just did a video on using a broken tv to do this .
So I've got this tablet. The screen got cracked and I ordered the new screen plus the digitizer, and when I tried to put it back together, the LCD display panel underneath the outer layer broke. It cracked! Much to my surprise too because I've taken this damn thing apart a dozen or more times and it never broke until I tried to replace the damn digitizer and screen part, and the display never got broken. I can't exactly replace the part as I can't find one much like you in this case here. So I need to find a new part to connect it to temporarily just to obtain stuff that's on the tablet. Any ideas on where I can get something that I can connect the board of the tablet too so I can access it???
That code is most likely the meta casing. Take that off and you’ll see another code on it. Looking online, the lcd panels are around 75 dollars. Probably not worth repairing tbh
Every time I see you Vince you have a new Watch on just saying. 😂⌚️😂⌚️😂⌚️😂
Vince is pimpin' his bling-bling after mending all dem broken toys and shizz
I dont think the ir sensor gets idle power when unplugged, so what I do it click the manual onr and off button on the tv or radio or whatever to defuse. But I did build a bread board that has many resisters in a chain with aligator clips and I put them onto a large baring capacitor to drain them sometimes it burns up a resistor but there relletivly cheap and easily replaced. You could try that if youd like.
Ps the back lighting strips are worth really good money if you need to scrap it
great video
Thanks :-)
Good that you care about u r friends when they are sick ;)
I had my Sony 55 inch croke the powersupply and was able to find one. $100 later and I had a working TV again.
vince are you sure you didnt run and give it a flying bruce lee kick just so you can make a video lol
Its the Vince tv!.well worth a fix!
Haha :-)
The hot part is most likey a power supply part based on the size of components on it.
If you can get the electronics out first then it should be possible to extract the broken screen and get a new screen but I don't think that it will be easy to get such a new screen actually get a second hand monitor and use the screen out of it.
Thanks David :-)
If you remove lcd panel and leave rest in, ie led lights and light spreaders etc, you can make a very effective lighting panel. Just need to make custom frame for it, as well as figuring how to power it without wasting all that power to board etc.
Hi Vince, What camera are you using to get close up shots on boards? I have several which I have tried, but the macro feature just goes blurry when I try to go close into PCBs
Hi Tony, it is just a Sony Handycam HDR-CX280. I didn't buy it for TH-cam vids but it does the job :-)
@@Mymatevince Thanks
If it had been held from the back with your hands in a U shape and only a little bit of pressure on the front it might not have broken (that's how i picked up my mom's TV to move it away from the wall and lift up on one side so i could hook up the A/V cables to it [the cables had to go in the bottom of the TV] and that's also how i carry my PC's 19 inch monitor too)
My Mate VINCE,,, OH NO NOT THE THUMB HOLE BREAK ...😁
Before that video I watched DIY PERKS Video to turn a TV to a window...
Hi! I saw in some of your Nintendo Switch videos that when you used the hot air station, you masked the components around the part you wanted to heat up with a yellow semi-transparent adhesive band. I need to replace some band in my phone that looks exactly the same, but I couldn't find out what that type of band is called. Could you please tell me what band is that?
Kapton Tape :-)
@@Mymatevince That's it! Thank you so much!
Well it's sad when your TV dies but you can fix it or buy a new TV if your a TH-camr you can fix it for even more money since TH-cam gives you money
Get to cash converters vince loads of tvs like this then swap all the bits you need
I like your vidios their are useful for me. Thank you very much for the helpful information from your video ❤️
Thank you :-)
You're only supposed to look at monitors and TVs but yet they still break very common
Back in the day of active matrix displays you where able to fix pixels by gently pressing on the dead pixel. I've heard a rumor of using canned air positioned upside down on the effected area may after thawing function again.
This is the real reason Vince took 2 weeks off, he couldnt see what he was soldering lol.
i tinker with flatscreens.. you might find a monitor that has the same screen at the thrift store for cheap.
i have two emerson 32 inch tvs.. a 2014 with a good screen and bad power supply... and a 2018 with a bad screen and wi-fi. if they will swap , i'm going for the 2018 fix
Thanks for clearing up "this video is just for entertaining" there are a lot of not so intelligent people out there. That's why there are warning signs all over products. Besides your videos are very very informative! I'm no Albert einstien or Nikola tesla by the way s so everyone please don't take offense to my comment! ☺️
Yes you can replace panels. You simply are doing it wrong. I even replaced the panel in my laptop with a better panel than what was stock. If you match the dimensions and the connector PIN counts you may even be able to upgrade the panel.
Why is he sitting on the ground?
...and this is why someone I know gives me a bollocking whenever I have direct hand contact with the screen itself while holding a VDU/TV for transit purposes.
Oh well, it happens Vince. Just don't do that next time, and hold it by the bezels whenever you move the TV around, or any VDU/TV (visual display unit/television) for that matter.
Also, sorry for the self-reply, but I've found this, though I'm not sure if this matches your exact TV model and screen size, as I've done a quick search based on what's mentioned here:
- www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LCD-SCREEN-PANEL-FOR-LOGIK-L22LDVB21-22-LED-TV-CLAA215FA06/263159472756?hash=item3d4586e274:g:6fkAAOSw1WJZHcmz
NOTA BENE: Please ignore this if it's either sold or correct me if I am wrong
90 percent of the time its cheaper to replace the tv than replace the lcd panel cause its usually expensive .
RIP LOGIK TV you served us well
hey Vince i have a led TV with a greenly line in the middle, i can fix it or i have to replace all the panel?
how to make led tv with lp154wp2-tlc 2 laptop screen?
Hi Vince,
I have a screen for your broken TV, same model from my AWA 22 in TV.
Did you want the screen.
usually, if not a simple board repair, or dead leds it is not worth repairing a TV... if it is the screen, your are busted, unless you are lucky to find the same screen on a repair shop that had the same kind of TV with a dead board...
Thanks :-)
Hi Vince I managed to put together a tv from to different model tv but the resolution must be the same also the connector relatively the same (the lvds in almost every time i checked was the same pinout and 12v to the screen )" I mean to be the same but maybe in different location "
the 2 screen what i used were totally different brand .
sorry fir my bad english
Nice. A Frankenstein TV is a good solution.
It’s a throw away society these days no one wants to fix anything
Hot side is where AC goes and Cold Side is DC. AC gets converted to DC on the hot side. this is one of the problems with TVs, finding the screens for them is only do-able if someone has parted one out if not then you cant get the screens for them. i dont see any point in bothering with repairing a TV or a Computer monitor when it comes to the Screen itself if its the Power supply then yes try and fix it but its the Main board then i wouldn't even bother. the industry for repairing a lot of these new TVs are dead cheaper to throw away than repair, welcome to this throw away generation
Thanks for all the info :-)
It’s about selling not repairing. That’s where the money is.
The hot and cold marking on the board means " HOT " power supply side 230v and " COLD " normal voltage 12v / 24v
I've got the same tv except mine has a dvd player on the back
The problem is not the panel, it's the connector or the top board of the panel, try to connect the motherboard again and the power, turn on and press on the top of the panel and see what happens. There are a lot of videos about how to fix these kinds of problems with the displays. Also, check the pins of the connector. Maybe it's the cable of the screen, and you can find a replacement on eBay.
Watch diy perks he turns a broken tv in to a light
Cheers mate. That tv set is quite knackered yeah? You are blind stuck in a rut with it aren't you mate?
A cracked screen is the end of the line for a tv 99.99% of the time..unless you get very lucky it's way too expensive to replace the panel even if they are available.
That might be true for humans but I got the time displacement field. If you see John Connor just let me know.because I owe him some money.
panels cost more than a new tv so i don't know why you would do that.
you get no warranty on a new panel. laptop screens are widely available
and pretty cheap so if you do it you slip under the radar. a company would
have had to add price for warranty etc.
No point trying to repair it. I suggest you sell the boards on eBay to fund another TV
I was able to merge parts from 2 TV recently. The busted 2nd panel will go to recycling. The other boards and plastics are going on ebay as parts.
You have to push the button the tv it's self to drain power left over. Though in flat panel's it will drain quickly on on it's own being unplugged.
Steven Hood Or for more excitement, poke the capacitor with a screwdriver. That way it’ll definitely be discharged.