"The current champ should always have the edge" is a bullshit rule of the IFBB in my opinion. If the current champ from last year gets knocked off his throne by one or more others, he deserves a less good placing, even if it's 10th place, I'm not specifically referring to 2009 with dexter, I'm just saying in general. A new competition, everyone starts equal from zero, regardless of their previous placings or wins. Legacies must be deserved, this would also make bodybuilding more exciting and more unpredictable, and the athletes will give more of themselves if they know the winner isn't given the edge.
Why was 2009 a great year? Because jay lost his title the year before to dexter, everyone knew the title was up for grasp since the champ lost, so they all brought their a game. Jay included, why was 2009 one of his best years, if not the best, because he had to fight for the title again, no Christmas presents were handed out for nothing that year.
@@lakeeriesailor2852 maybe...but the judges, some of whom were good friends with Yates, couldn't fathom disrespecting the champ by placing him anywhere but in the top spot, despite his missing arm and bloated gut.
There were 2 other years when a reigning Mr Olympia was dethroned and finished lower than 2nd place: Frank Zane 1980 (3rd), and Samir Banout 1984 (6th). There should have been another one in 1997 (Dorian didn't even deserve to be in top six).
Hey brother been following you for a while also Nick and Lui Marco, I don't ever comment on TH-cam just wanna let you know I love your videos man, best insight and solid information, makes the drive home from the gym so much more pleasant, thanks brother.
Jay Cutler will always be one of my favorite bodybuilders of all time. Phil Heath is also the man, but I wish there was more competition for him this year because we all know he's gonna win it again. No suspense.
@@Stephenc35753 I don't really have an opinion on it. He's a dumbass for putting himself in a situation where he could be accused of rape, regardless of the outcome.
I also completely agree Dexter shoulda been placed better than Branch. Speaking of Branch, remember that part in generation iron where he got thrown off the horse? As soon as he mentions not have any injuries since 2003, he gets injured in the same seen. If it was real then I feel bad that happened to him.
2020 Olympia will be insane. Will Rhoden come back to regain the title he never lost? Can Phil be the second Mr. Olympia to lose and regain his title? Is Brandon going to prove his doubters wrong and shock the world by beating Phil and Rhoden? Will Ramy and Roelly finally live up to their fans hype?
great video you are so on point. I talk to Phil about people thinking ramy can beat him every year and this year they think he can do it. smh Phil can beat these guys on his off day and still win. this generation sicks 2009 and up was great
It was close for sure. I think Kai actually has better detail through the back but the knock on him is the undersized traps and forearms. Still I could see it going either way in 2012 in the BDB
Saw this Olympia live and was a member of the MD forums during this time. Their live play by play put HD pics as the mandatories were taking place. I had a feeling Branch would edge out Dexter because in the HD mandatories his hamstrings/calves looked like they were carved out of stone and made Dexter look anemic in the BDB and BLS. Heck, Branch even had insane detail in the ST, I was blown away at his level of detail and the grainy look he brought. I’m actually really glad the judges rewarded him that year because the HD pics looked unreal.
Yo Tom how did the 2020 Mr O compare with the 2009 one? Big Ramy with his special invite, Phil with his comeback, Brandon being a fragile champ, Hadi being the People’s Champ in 2019, Roelly with crazy shredded sneak peeks, Hunter and Ian’s debut, and Dexter’s last year.
Call me crazy but the back shot of all the top guys at 2:05 , Jay has the best back. Maybe Kai. But Jay's traps are just massive and his arms look great.
True, this was a great olympia, and Jay was unbeatable so much mass and his condition was proper!! Love the blade tho always shredded in my opinion he has the best physique in my eyes 💪
I come from the future... phil is done, 2018 shawn rhoden won, 2019 brandon curry won and big rammy in 2020... so the next 3 mr olympia that we expected on Phil heat, are so different that we thought
yeah 09 Jay vs 03 Coleman would be a dream matchup man. I would still bet on Ronnie for the overwhelming mass and thickness from the back but Jay that year had a very sharp clean look with less flaws
r d I think you are kinda fucking dumb, Ronnie’s arms were just triceps, biceps short as a midget, traps were there like everybody else, legs weren’t sweeped, back was juicy, conditioning was a joke. Compared to early 90s and jay 2009. But man have you ever seen the gut. It’s not only ugly, but a fucking four pack:/
Dexter dropped the ball he should have put on size and got bigger and came in bigger and shredded he left the door open for Jay by not escalating his situation!
Dexter should have been handed the Sandow in 2009 and Victor should have been handed the Sandow in 2007 . Jay is lucky for some reason he won those 2 years....smh...oh well.
I was at the 2009 Olympia and all I remember saying was holy shit Branch actually looks awesome, I've never been a fan of his physique but I thought in 09 he looked insane, I was still surprised he beat Dexter but Branch brought his best package to date in 2009, along with Jay of course who completely owned the show, it was a battle for 2nd 3rd and 4th that year.
I think dexter shouldve won again. Yes jay showed up shredded but thats it. He was huge but not full and round like dexter, phil or victor. The only muscles jay beat dexter on is the front quads and back hams and glutes. Dexter beat him in almost ever pose i thought
Do you think Kai would have done better if he didn't have the scandals or the long rope-ish hair, which in my opinion is very distracting from the actual body.
Cutler was better in 2009 than in 2007 and 2008. That's a fact. But all those photos show that he was worse than beautifully built, Dexter Jackson who was completely cheated by the judges. Mr Olympia 2007, 2008 and 2009 weren't judged fairly. No doubt.
Dude... Phil has a damn bottle midsection.... this yr is up for grabs... especially with big army n roelly... Phil is done dude.... So this yrs Olympia is up for grabs...
That's one way to look at it. The way I see it is if he could win WITH a massive potbelly, nobody really stands a chance. Of course, he could get sick or injured or just come in really off so we'll see
Dexter all day, something political that scewed they judges eyes. They need to do and audience vote, not the judges vote. Take any biased judgement out.
It’s easy to see why Tomn8r didn’t see Rhoden as a threat. If Phil Heath had never acquired big distension+hernia issues he would have won 10+ Olympias in today’s lineups. He’s too complete of a bodybuilder to lose to a Rhoden when he’s on. It took him having issues with his own body to spell his demise, says a lot about the caliber of a champion he is.
guess Rhoden was a threat after all
lmao true haha
@Phil Heath lol
Not really
@Chema stfu
He got lucky because Phil was a little off.
"The current champ should always have the edge" is a bullshit rule of the IFBB in my opinion. If the current champ from last year gets knocked off his throne by one or more others, he deserves a less good placing, even if it's 10th place, I'm not specifically referring to 2009 with dexter, I'm just saying in general. A new competition, everyone starts equal from zero, regardless of their previous placings or wins. Legacies must be deserved, this would also make bodybuilding more exciting and more unpredictable, and the athletes will give more of themselves if they know the winner isn't given the edge.
Why was 2009 a great year? Because jay lost his title the year before to dexter, everyone knew the title was up for grasp since the champ lost, so they all brought their a game. Jay included, why was 2009 one of his best years, if not the best, because he had to fight for the title again, no Christmas presents were handed out for nothing that year.
I agree it's kinda bullshit but they at least should be consistent with their bullshit or it's even more bullshit... naw meen?
like in 1997, dorian didn't even deserve to be in top 6.
@@lakeeriesailor2852 maybe...but the judges, some of whom were good friends with Yates, couldn't fathom disrespecting the champ by placing him anywhere but in the top spot, despite his missing arm and bloated gut.
Dexter should have been 2nd in 2009 though, he was way better than Branch.
There were 2 other years when a reigning Mr Olympia was dethroned and finished lower than 2nd place: Frank Zane 1980 (3rd), and Samir Banout 1984 (6th). There should have been another one in 1997 (Dorian didn't even deserve to be in top six).
One last, Phil didn't deserve to be runner in 2018. Its was indeed the beast Roelly.
And 2007
Should be added
2007 was very close though
@@donkbox7317 2nd would have been a fair placing for Jay in 2007
Hey brother been following you for a while also Nick and Lui Marco, I don't ever comment on TH-cam just wanna let you know I love your videos man, best insight and solid information, makes the drive home from the gym so much more pleasant, thanks brother.
Jay 2009 unbeatable. Greatness
Dexter looked better and should have repeated.
@@michaelcambridge1542 deserved second place not third but jay was he man shape. That legs and back destroyed Dexter very easily.
It's funny on that flyer a minute into the video Dexter was the reigning Mr. O and he wasn't even ON the damn thing!!
@///AMG will he keep the same training or get better. Cause his squats suck ass
The lighting was on point 💯
2009 JAY=best Jay ever. good he showed up in real condition
5:28 Dexter is wearing a travel pillow
levan beriashvili lmao
Yeah he has some softballs their
Jay Cutler will always be one of my favorite bodybuilders of all time.
Phil Heath is also the man, but I wish there was more competition for him this year because we all know he's gonna win it again. No suspense.
I remember thinking the same as you before The 2018 Olympia 😂🤣
@@yousefsobhani9502 I remember thinking that shawn rhoden didnt look like a rapist... guess we were both wrong
@@Stephenc35753 I don't really have an opinion on it. He's a dumbass for putting himself in a situation where he could be accused of rape, regardless of the outcome.
hey Tom came back to watch this video and make a comment. This years Olympia is wide open I think!
Crazy to see how long Tomn8er has been on TH-cam
They need to bring this lighting back to the olympia stage again it was awesome.
I also completely agree Dexter shoulda been placed better than Branch.
Speaking of Branch, remember that part in generation iron where he got thrown off the horse? As soon as he mentions not have any injuries since 2003, he gets injured in the same seen. If it was real then I feel bad that happened to him.
The lighting should be like this... With the dark background....
Dexter was even better in 09 than his 08 victory
I always thought so too. Certainly the lighting was much better in 09 which always helps!
Jay was unreal that year.
2019 is shaping up to be the same hype.
I'm betting on Rhoden to win
@@Drae2212 nope
It ended up being the shittiest
@@youssefraef6947 no
@@Drae2212 give ne my money
Not even seen the video, but yet assure that it is great.
You were saying about Shawn Rhoden?
This is how the lightning should be in all the professional as well as amature bodybuilding championships.
2020 Olympia will be insane. Will Rhoden come back to regain the title he never lost? Can Phil be the second Mr. Olympia to lose and regain his title? Is Brandon going to prove his doubters wrong and shock the world by beating Phil and Rhoden? Will Ramy and Roelly finally live up to their fans hype?
Kyle Bane that’s if corona virus doesn’t ruin it lmao
Will Ramy finally live up to their fans hype? Yes, I think that's what happened. Winter is here.
no shit?
I mean, he won but boring olympia
Rip
Another great video!
5:01 is hilarious to hear a year and change later.
Yeah, rhoden is not a threat. Say that after 2018 Mr O
Being honest
He doesn’t stand a chance when Phil gets his mid section on check
Nonetheless he did deserve rhoden did deserve it!
@@krisgarcia1711 2020 came and went and he was delivering his 3rd child
great video you are so on point. I talk to Phil about people thinking ramy can beat him every year and this year they think he can do it. smh Phil can beat these guys on his off day and still win. this generation sicks 2009 and up was great
Jay cutler is really big only one guy can really surpassed him and rivalry him... Light weight baby... 😀
yep, but even him didn't deserved in 2001 at least
Dexter's arms at 6:06 are synthol
My favorite year
I miss the arnold intro
I don't
Let us know if your videos get demonatized too🤔
Nick was demonetized recewntly as well bro.
Jay is anbelieveable! Only this big man could win Ronnie.
I think Zane was third in 1980 after 3 wins.
Right you are! Also Samir Bannout placed 6th in '84... Still, point was it's been a long while and is an extremely rare occurrence
Tomn8er Very rare. Never thought about it until your video, which was not only informative but very entertaining.
thx man
il be straight. Last time i watched your few videos, it sucked. Now it is much much better! Keep up a good work youre getting there.
lol thx man. Curious though now, which video did you watch last?
1:21 is it just me or kai's back looks better than phil?
It was close for sure. I think Kai actually has better detail through the back but the knock on him is the undersized traps and forearms. Still I could see it going either way in 2012 in the BDB
Phil definitely has the better upper back but yeah it’s very close
Shit I'm late, better break this world record fast! BOOM! ALL DAY LONG! #worldrecord #behumble
What's goin on guyzzz it's the TOMIN8er here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dex robbed, should have been 2nd
Definitely, agree
Awesome mr Olympia.
Saw this Olympia live and was a member of the MD forums during this time. Their live play by play put HD pics as the mandatories were taking place. I had a feeling Branch would edge out Dexter because in the HD mandatories his hamstrings/calves looked like they were carved out of stone and made Dexter look anemic in the BDB and BLS. Heck, Branch even had insane detail in the ST, I was blown away at his level of detail and the grainy look he brought. I’m actually really glad the judges rewarded him that year because the HD pics looked unreal.
Yo Tom how did the 2020 Mr O compare with the 2009 one? Big Ramy with his special invite, Phil with his comeback, Brandon being a fragile champ, Hadi being the People’s Champ in 2019, Roelly with crazy shredded sneak peeks, Hunter and Ian’s debut, and Dexter’s last year.
2020 was one of the better ones since then for sure.
@@Tomn8er Damn bro, respect for responding within a day in a video you made years ago!
Call me crazy but the back shot of all the top guys at 2:05 , Jay has the best back. Maybe Kai. But Jay's traps are just massive and his arms look great.
True, this was a great olympia, and Jay was unbeatable so much mass and his condition was proper!!
Love the blade tho always shredded in my opinion he has the best physique in my eyes 💪
The legendary quad stomp
_"smell my my smelly feet"_
thank you for not doing that intro anymore
jay is the number one underdog :D
Which Olympia is the first pic?
2015
I come from the future... phil is done, 2018 shawn rhoden won, 2019 brandon curry won and big rammy in 2020... so the next 3 mr olympia that we expected on Phil heat, are so different that we thought
Jay 2009 beats everybody hands down, completely flawless. Stand him side by side to anybody, even Ronnie 2003.
yeah 09 Jay vs 03 Coleman would be a dream matchup man. I would still bet on Ronnie for the overwhelming mass and thickness from the back but Jay that year had a very sharp clean look with less flaws
r d I think you are kinda fucking dumb, Ronnie’s arms were just triceps, biceps short as a midget, traps were there like everybody else, legs weren’t sweeped, back was juicy, conditioning was a joke. Compared to early 90s and jay 2009. But man have you ever seen the gut. It’s not only ugly, but a fucking four pack:/
r d there is no racism in bodybuilding, jay 2009 beats everybody in every shot every time.
The fanboying over ronnie is real lmao... Hilarious
Umm disagree..
Also 2020 was super hyped
you are underestimating ramy big time
It looked like everyone was peeled! You dont see this now days
Jay en 2009 era una bestia xD
Why the heck was Dexter not even on the poster?? He was the returning Mr. Olympia!!!
Phil is just an extremely dominant Mr.Olympia I don't see Ramy beating him.
Now?
@@dionshelby5494 then?
@@leart78? He didn't reference a particular time. He said he couldn't see ramy beating phil
We need a video about gaspari 1987
Kai is killing Phil in that back double bicep 🔥
Kai had no traps and no forearms. So no, he didn't.
Dexter dropped the ball he should have put on size and got bigger and came in bigger and shredded he left the door open for Jay by not escalating his situation!
look at that side thigh of branch at 4:21....holy smokes lol!
Dexter should have been handed the Sandow in 2009 and Victor should have been handed the Sandow in 2007 . Jay is lucky for some reason he won those 2 years....smh...oh well.
are tou blind? ore are just black?
I was at the 2009 Olympia and all I remember saying was holy shit Branch actually looks awesome, I've never been a fan of his physique but I thought in 09 he looked insane, I was still surprised he beat Dexter but Branch brought his best package to date in 2009, along with Jay of course who completely owned the show, it was a battle for 2nd 3rd and 4th that year.
How did you have the top 6?
I like Dexter as the '09 Mr O winner.
watch the jays quad stomp pose in 2009 lol
We r back to this era...... This year's 2021 and probably winners r HADI , BONAC , BRANDON , RAMY , NICK WALKER .
I think dexter shouldve won again. Yes jay showed up shredded but thats it. He was huge but not full and round like dexter, phil or victor. The only muscles jay beat dexter on is the front quads and back hams and glutes. Dexter beat him in almost ever pose i thought
Dakota Walker 2009 jay left humanity behind - when jay did that quad stomp the whole place was in ahhhh- I've never seen anything like that before -
Bob Kurtz just a shame he had to lose the title to get his shit together for once
you're stupid, look at video MrO 2009, Jay beat Dexter in everything, arms, shoulder, lower body, chest, back, even abs.
Jay by KO just walking out
You know politics fucks a sport up when branch finishes higher than phil
Well what do have to say about Shawn now😉
I truly think 2020 will have this same competitive atmosphere.
Ronnie was the king ,but Jay brought money and fame
Turns out Rhoden was close.
Dexter should of won this!!
Do you think Kai would have done better if he didn't have the scandals or the long rope-ish hair, which in my opinion is very distracting from the actual body.
Nah I think 4th was fair for him since he was a little soft this year
I think he may have asked this generally. Not just for 2009 but for other years - since he always has the ropish hair.
Cutler was better in 2009 than in 2007 and 2008. That's a fact. But all those photos show that he was worse than beautifully built, Dexter Jackson who was completely cheated by the judges. Mr Olympia 2007, 2008 and 2009 weren't judged fairly. No doubt.
Dexter should’ve won.....
All time super jay Cutler fitness.. 2009
Dex definitely should have been 2nd. Branch was cut sure but what the heck, Branch never had any shape.
Yet Kia green blows everyone a way from behind top to bottom. He shoulda placed way higher
Jay cutler my y
6:49 wtf is that phil face
Phil be making the weirdest faces lol
Shawn won 😂😅
Dude... Phil has a damn bottle midsection.... this yr is up for grabs... especially with big army n roelly... Phil is done dude.... So this yrs Olympia is up for grabs...
That's one way to look at it. The way I see it is if he could win WITH a massive potbelly, nobody really stands a chance. Of course, he could get sick or injured or just come in really off so we'll see
And Branch got 2nd , like what the fuck
Lol Rhoden defeated Phil bubble gut Heath in 2018, and you said he couldn't challenge him😂
That was a gift to rhoden
Ugh this video keeps going black with only audio...i had to re watch this 4 times to make it half way
Dexter got screwed he should of placed 2nd it was his best shape ever not 08
If Victor bringing the best again he's unbeatable
Dexter all day, something political that scewed they judges eyes. They need to do and audience vote, not the judges vote. Take any biased judgement out.
You seem to be biggest fan of phil but the fact is 2017 ramy was the real winner and much better than phil
i think johnny bravo should have won
Rhoden actually won
Branch didn’t deserved 2nd in 2009
Anyone who didnt think Shawn was a threat 😑🤣 lol 2018
It’s easy to see why Tomn8r didn’t see Rhoden as a threat. If Phil Heath had never acquired big distension+hernia issues he would have won 10+ Olympias in today’s lineups. He’s too complete of a bodybuilder to lose to a Rhoden when he’s on. It took him having issues with his own body to spell his demise, says a lot about the caliber of a champion he is.
We had Maradona , pele , gullit etc .. and now we only have ronaldo and messi ..
The Olympia is boring now. No good rivalry's. Very few new faces. No wonder there are more classes.
2019. Brandon won
Jay is the best of all Time