pinning this comment hopefully you guys see it. GGG has said they are making performance better on default desecrate (i doubt that will 100% fix it) but letting you guys know anyway. old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1bogx4y/ggg_i_implore_you_to_apply_a_fix_for_desecrate/kwqenwp/?context=10
Lucky you! I like to 'watch', so my wife's boyfriend and my wife let me play only the summoner class. Honestly, I enjoy to walk and see how other doing stuff and killing monsters. While im not allowed to play DD, but at least I'm glad I can watch them playing DD and ofcourse im gonna watch Ghazzy's stream on launch - our lord, our svaior of cuckonners. And i love that im not alone - look how many people enjoy to "play" summoners. Happy wives, happy and strong families. May be you should join cuckonners gang so your wife will stay with you and even will invite her BF to celebrate it? And you can just watch as someone doing 7/7 ubers, just imagine that all streamers and their characers is your summons.
I farmed merc lab for both gems. Got both of them in about 4-6 hours, not really sure as I was working from home and AFK at times. For people that are considering this I highly recommend you level in your 2nd slots Lancing and DD. Be sure you always have both of those and not just random green gems incase you get the lucky craft that turns your gem into transfigured of same type. Also VD of Seething will work if you want to take a break from lab and try out your build in maps for awhile.
10:28 awesome detail/coincidence that talk about fire&ignite resistant rares while you're killing a fire&ignite resistant rare in the gameplay footage!
poison dd lost a fair amount of damage from the loss of the poison duration charm, not sure how confident i would be in someone playing that right off the bat on leaguestart especially because you want volkuurs or at least eater boots if you are ONLY bossing(unless im forgetting some unique?). 2nd build though should be okay, maybe bossing respec. league main sadd
@@classic-doll256not exclusive to PF, for gauntlet we considered playing it on trickster/champ. ben even won playing poison NECRO(using the boots tho, cant map with those). Keep in mind getting access to wither and poison chance is a problem you'll have to solve
For those without MTX, or even with & an AMD GPU, fluid motion frames might be the bandaid-fix you need. It generates fake frames that look scuffed sometimes but in PoE you won't even notice it, fps gain will double. Spamming desecrate with cascade at 1440p I get roughly 80 FPS, with AFMF on I get 160~, dropping to 1080p it turns into 220~. Not many people know about it but now you do.
Hey just ended my ssf test with coc dd inquis and tried with no qual on ass mark and lancing went well up to eater exarch shaper invit etc. I dont think its NEEDED. BUT maybe recommended ? Have a great league and thx for video
I think I'm gonna go with your Ele DD. Primarily because trying to make sure you're 100% Chaos res capped on Softcore is a pain due to prices. Especially pretty early on. ALSO I just love/prefer ignite's map clear. Question though, until we get Militant Faith jewel. What do we rock there? By the Divine Judgement cluster? Do we just rock a fire dot multi/dot multi + life + str & dex jewel or?
@@Alonso99 It went good up until... Like T6s. I was gonna stick with it until I noticed that rare monsters took longer to kill than map bosses 🤣 So I figured I'd I'll ride it out til I get Regrets to respec which i did yesterday & DD of Chaining is just far superior. So def go DD Necro instead.
@@Alonso99 Yeahh I know they get easier once you get Exposure on gloved as well. But needing to get to that point before being able to kill them? Ehh fuck that 🤣 But I'm SMACKING with DD Necro right now
Hey man! Thanks for the video! I was wondering which one do you think is the most beginner friendly ? CoC looks nice but i'm not sure it is beginner friendly
Lancing Steel of Spraying: Now fires 6 Projectiles at gem level 1 (unchanged), scaling up to 8 at gem level 20 (previously 10). This would make it feel worse than it's currently playing in game, no?
I wanted to play DD last league already but a friend told me I probably won't enjoy a 2 button build. Thought about going Inq after seeing rue build it, but I kinda wanna do selfcast once, feels like you should have done it once at least. Necro Chain DD it in!
Hello, I am planning on starting with this build ( the one button CoC one ), I will have to buy a couple of MTX, DD is easy - only 1 choise. I would like to ask what Desecrate should I get? does it matter? should I go for Stygian or Void? Is there a difference in performance between these 2 or I just have to stay away from the original no MTX one.
yo! im struggling a bit with ST, i guess i should try to get the 5 spectres setup i saw you talking about on stream, but i didnt get to find the clip of you telling me what to do. any linkers? great content as always!
For a newer player (ive hit 76 once beginner mapping) what would be the safest of the 3 for HC? Leaning toward Inquisitor but Elemntalist sounds okay too. Well all three sound good, need help.
As I want the new voice lines and also don't fry my computer it'll be necro or elem. The same old of more damage or more defense. I tend towards defense here but getting the gem will be a pita and mana issues on top of that. IDK now really maybe if I'm lucky with the gem... But DD seems the option to go this league.
today I figured out my elementalist DD is DoT based however I'm confused as to why its DoT based? arent DD's damage come from its blast? and where does the DoT come from the DD? is it just from the burning ground and the ignite?
Exactly the video I was looking for, thanks Imexile. Leaning towards necromancer but it's days yet. Rue's build looks amazing QoL but I don't like the MTX much, I'd like to see explosions rather than black goop, and ideally not in slomo. Ignite is super tempting for less fraught bossing, but can I not play a necromancer in Necropolis league.
Hey yo, not sure if you'll see or reply to this but, which ascendancy will have the best defenses through its progression? RF refugee here looking to branch out to other builds but I hate dying so much lol.
First Build POENinja Link (Ignite Variation): poe.ninja/builds/streamers/character/nickexile11/imexile_corpsewalking?i=0&search=name%3Dimexile Second Build POENinja Link (Necro Hit Based Variation): poe.ninja/builds/streamers/character/nickexile11/im_xile?i=0&search=name%3Dim_xile Third Build POENinja Link (Inquis Cast on Crit Variation): poe.ninja/builds/ancestorhc/character/nickexile11/imexile_mfgarf?i=0&search=class%3DInquisitor%26min-level%3D99%26name%3Dimexile
Do you have the PoB yet for DD Chain Reaction Necromancer? I think i wanna start that one, after been trying elementalist in standard end gamge. i just want to be Tanky. and it's also good that i can scale it to uber bosses any ways..
Thanks for the video! I am very unfamiliar with DD, how much worse would it be on chieftain? Would it be possible to league start and to transition into something else later?
Chieftain is a completely different style. Your damage from chieftain is all from your 5% explode. You need a TON of AoE to make it feel good to make your explode as big as possible. Not to mentioned, capped ignite chance and global ignite prolif. Great build for mapping, but single target will suck, esp without warlock ascendancy.
Necro you would have a much easier time hearing. I also do SSF and would reccomend investing in expiation and betrayal and you will be able to get all the gear you need
![[PoE 3.23] 5:23:33 Detonate Dead Ignite Elementalist Eater/Exarch Rush HC [World Record]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PfpSlnK821Q/mqdefault.jpg)
pinning this comment hopefully you guys see it. GGG has said they are making performance better on default desecrate (i doubt that will 100% fix it) but letting you guys know anyway.
old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1bogx4y/ggg_i_implore_you_to_apply_a_fix_for_desecrate/kwqenwp/?context=10
Are we going to get a PoB for the CoC version?
i am highly doubtful as well... it says if u have dynamic culling enabled which people are complaining is only 60 fps.. wtf.
@@adventurestodiefor7473 in my discord
@@andyfibb i'd love to have a constant 60 fps lol
my wife will regret leaving me once she sees me crush all the 7/7 with this powerful new DD build
Definitely her loss!
12/12 ;)
Lucky you! I like to 'watch', so my wife's boyfriend and my wife let me play only the summoner class. Honestly, I enjoy to walk and see how other doing stuff and killing monsters. While im not allowed to play DD, but at least I'm glad I can watch them playing DD and ofcourse im gonna watch Ghazzy's stream on launch - our lord, our svaior of cuckonners. And i love that im not alone - look how many people enjoy to "play" summoners. Happy wives, happy and strong families. May be you should join cuckonners gang so your wife will stay with you and even will invite her BF to celebrate it? And you can just watch as someone doing 7/7 ubers, just imagine that all streamers and their characers is your summons.
Careful her lawyer doesn't come after half of your divs and mirrors...
that's the spirit!
Holy this is exactly the video I wished existed, thank you
I farmed merc lab for both gems. Got both of them in about 4-6 hours, not really sure as I was working from home and AFK at times. For people that are considering this I highly recommend you level in your 2nd slots Lancing and DD. Be sure you always have both of those and not just random green gems incase you get the lucky craft that turns your gem into transfigured of same type. Also VD of Seething will work if you want to take a break from lab and try out your build in maps for awhile.
@warfalcon trans gems in lab will keep the level?
@@licasever3016 IIRC they went to level 1 last league, only quality was kept.
@@licasever3016 Yes "gem to its transfigured version" keeps xp & quality (according to wiki).
10:28 awesome detail/coincidence that talk about fire&ignite resistant rares while you're killing a fire&ignite resistant rare in the gameplay footage!
what about poison dd? is this diamond akali/zed/veigar main perhaps trying to play the wrong game again?
thanks for asking real question here JeanRoger
poison dd lost a fair amount of damage from the loss of the poison duration charm, not sure how confident i would be in someone playing that right off the bat on leaguestart especially because you want volkuurs or at least eater boots if you are ONLY bossing(unless im forgetting some unique?). 2nd build though should be okay, maybe bossing respec.
league main sadd
@@imexile3332 Is poison DD with Volkuurs exclusive to PF? Or could be done on other ascendancies?
@@classic-doll256not exclusive to PF, for gauntlet we considered playing it on trickster/champ. ben even won playing poison NECRO(using the boots tho, cant map with those). Keep in mind getting access to wither and poison chance is a problem you'll have to solve
@@imexile3332 unless...
thank you for your reply. I'm a huge fan of your content and honoured to be noticed by you!
really nice to have this summary and comparison, thanks!
Awesome and exactly what I needed to see!
For those without MTX, or even with & an AMD GPU, fluid motion frames might be the bandaid-fix you need. It generates fake frames that look scuffed sometimes but in PoE you won't even notice it, fps gain will double. Spamming desecrate with cascade at 1440p I get roughly 80 FPS, with AFMF on I get 160~, dropping to 1080p it turns into 220~. Not many people know about it but now you do.
isnt this banable?
@@Z3CR0W no, why would it be?
How do we do this sir i am not good enough on pc to change things lol
@@Girodii if you have an AMD GPU just google it you download the software from AMD's site
Appreciate laying out the differences
Thanks this has helped me in understanding DD a lot.
Why?
great video as usual, was actually looking for information like this!
great video, gl on league start
Great vid, thank you!
awesome video and thanks for explaining too keep it up exile :)
Can i get the pob for the only one click variation haha, or some some sort of video for that, how to build it and stuff
i played ben's chain dd and he uses arc brand for desecrate and it definitely helped with that 2 button spammy playstyle
Where could i find this? I dont see any build guides on hes yt channel
yes thats what you do on bossing
@@Dimitripersson in his chain dd vs Ubers he has a pob. It’s not a guide but it gives u a baseline on how to build the character
great summary!
Thanks for the breakdown man, great video. See you in HC trade!
Hey just ended my ssf test with coc dd inquis and tried with no qual on ass mark and lancing went well up to eater exarch shaper invit etc. I dont think its NEEDED. BUT maybe recommended ? Have a great league and thx for video
I think I'm gonna go with your Ele DD. Primarily because trying to make sure you're 100% Chaos res capped on Softcore is a pain due to prices. Especially pretty early on. ALSO I just love/prefer ignite's map clear. Question though, until we get Militant Faith jewel. What do we rock there? By the Divine Judgement cluster? Do we just rock a fire dot multi/dot multi + life + str & dex jewel or?
How’s your ele Dd run going?
@@Alonso99 It went good up until... Like T6s. I was gonna stick with it until I noticed that rare monsters took longer to kill than map bosses 🤣 So I figured I'd I'll ride it out til I get Regrets to respec which i did yesterday & DD of Chaining is just far superior. So def go DD Necro instead.
@@Kumoii I went ele too. The fire resists and ignite resists are a nightmare to kill.
@@Alonso99 Yeahh I know they get easier once you get Exposure on gloved as well. But needing to get to that point before being able to kill them? Ehh fuck that 🤣 But I'm SMACKING with DD Necro right now
Good info, thanks !
Is there a PoB for the CoC version? Looks super fun.
Did you ever make a POD for the Inquisition DD? Or record your league start?
Cover in ash probably easily fix by using weapon swap Infernal cry with Call to arm support.
Was thinking what ascendancy to pick and this explain everything I was looking for, thanks a lot for the upload!
what are u going to pick ?
@@yerayramirez990 crouching tuna la
Who's build would you follow for the necro DD build?
Ben
Where can i find a build guide for necro dd? never played it before, ann it would be nice to find a guide
Searched the web but didnt find anything :(
@@brainslash1775 there is a video on zizarans channel, where he cillabed with imexile, and put up a dd necro guide
Thank you Mr. Imexile
Hey man! Thanks for the video! I was wondering which one do you think is the most beginner friendly ? CoC looks nice but i'm not sure it is beginner friendly
Lancing Steel of Spraying: Now fires 6 Projectiles at gem level 1 (unchanged), scaling up to 8 at gem level 20 (previously 10). This would make it feel worse than it's currently playing in game, no?
I wanted to play DD last league already but a friend told me I probably won't enjoy a 2 button build. Thought about going Inq after seeing rue build it, but I kinda wanna do selfcast once, feels like you should have done it once at least. Necro Chain DD it in!
2 button builds feel fine if you have good cast speed.
Hello, I am planning on starting with this build ( the one button CoC one ), I will have to buy a couple of MTX, DD is easy - only 1 choise. I would like to ask what Desecrate should I get? does it matter? should I go for Stygian or Void? Is there a difference in performance between these 2 or I just have to stay away from the original no MTX one.
Where Necro DD PoB?
@Imexile, is this build possible to do cast on crit cyclone detonate dead?
DD Ignite will still be king for Blight and Expedition because of prolif, right?
yes
yo! im struggling a bit with ST, i guess i should try to get the 5 spectres setup i saw you talking about on stream, but i didnt get to find the clip of you telling me what to do. any linkers? great content as always!
Nice! Do you have a guide to the Inq version ???
Going to try the DD for the first time this league
awesome video, thank you so much. I only have one question left: Which DD should I play?
For a newer player (ive hit 76 once beginner mapping) what would be the safest of the 3 for HC? Leaning toward Inquisitor but Elemntalist sounds okay too. Well all three sound good, need help.
As I want the new voice lines and also don't fry my computer it'll be necro or elem. The same old of more damage or more defense. I tend towards defense here but getting the gem will be a pita and mana issues on top of that. IDK now really maybe if I'm lucky with the gem... But DD seems the option to go this league.
Necro is more dmg and better defenses, the downside is that it's hit based and a lot of apm
where is the pob for the coc version?
ty for ur work and ur content!... what lootfilter are u using..? greetings from bavaria
Do you have a build guide for necro DD? I’m pretty new to POE. I wanted to use maxroll but they only have the elementalist version.
Should I stay away from CoC DD inquisitor if I've never played PoE, but familiar with LE/Diablo? Maybe the fire ignite first build is a better choice?
Are you going to have a guide out for the inquis? Sounds sick
reutoo already has an insane DD inquis build just came out a day or 2 ago
I have a question, why is bastion a plus for elementalist when the damage of DD "cannot be reflected"?
today I figured out my elementalist DD is DoT based
however I'm confused as to why its DoT based? arent DD's damage come from its blast?
and where does the DoT come from the DD? is it just from the burning ground and the ignite?
which you think is most SSF viable??
Here's a question. Do I want cast speed or spell damage if I have to make a choice between them?
Could you make a late game coc pob, so we can compare on how you'd scale into lategame compared to Rue's version ?
Exactly the video I was looking for, thanks Imexile. Leaning towards necromancer but it's days yet. Rue's build looks amazing QoL but I don't like the MTX much, I'd like to see explosions rather than black goop, and ideally not in slomo. Ignite is super tempting for less fraught bossing, but can I not play a necromancer in Necropolis league.
just my thoughts i was like damn so many possibilities
can i do the CoC version on a witch instead of inquisitor?
So with hopefully the FPS issues being fixed by GGG and by playing SC this is one of the best builds as far as all-rounder builds go?
do you have a pob guide for the necromancer or inquisitor dd to follow?
Anyone know if CoC DD Inquisitor absolutely requires 100% crit rate for max trigger? If not, what level of crit is OK to make the build feel good.
is the 2 button spam rlly that bad or does it just seem bad ? im new and idk which one to choose.
Needed exactly this video thanks! I assume your 3.23 ignite DD vid is still fine to use?
Didn’t realize desecrate fucked up others ppl performance too, thought it was just a me issue. Which MTX is the best for performance?
Have you tried kitava’s head for necro DD?
Haven't played in over 2 years but want to play this league. Is there a full r-tard build/leveling guide for the CoC DD somewhere?
Ventrua made a video and updated the leveling section of ruetoo's pob, you can search it up on TH-cam
Is there a PoB for the CoC DD Inq? Edit: It is on his Discord!
Any CoC DD guide, @Imexile?
Do you have some atlas tree to follow for progressing/essence/harvest i saw alot needed in the necro DD guide from ziz.
how does the hit-based CI build feel for simulacrum? and which would be better, is it an option or a classic ignite?
hey do you have the pob for the detonate dead coc inquisitor ?
do you have a POB for the COC build? i cant find a good one
Might be a silly question but why cant we just us normal Vaal DD on Necro?
i think its because of clear speed, you get ignite from elementalist, however for necro you need the gem i suppose.
Hey yo, not sure if you'll see or reply to this but, which ascendancy will have the best defenses through its progression? RF refugee here looking to branch out to other builds but I hate dying so much lol.
how did you calculate enemy corpse life? on your 3.23 ignite dd it's set to 189k meanwhile on the ziz guide it's 70k
How good would Corpsewalker boots be to make the corpse summoning automatic?
which one would you say has the best potential for SC Trade and with endgame items?
is there a guide for the CoC Inquisitor?
is DD still alive in 3.25 ?? cant find any build recommendations???
First Build POENinja Link (Ignite Variation):
poe.ninja/builds/streamers/character/nickexile11/imexile_corpsewalking?i=0&search=name%3Dimexile
Second Build POENinja Link (Necro Hit Based Variation):
poe.ninja/builds/streamers/character/nickexile11/im_xile?i=0&search=name%3Dim_xile
Third Build POENinja Link (Inquis Cast on Crit Variation):
poe.ninja/builds/ancestorhc/character/nickexile11/imexile_mfgarf?i=0&search=class%3DInquisitor%26min-level%3D99%26name%3Dimexile
its for 3.22 at least the coc version
Awesome video! Im now convinced necro dd for SSF will suit me really well.
Does anyone know if Ben or someone else made a current pob for necro dd?😃
He played chain dd last league so you could watch that or watch the vods of some hcssf players that made practice runs with it
is there a POB for your CoC inquis version?
Would CoC Inquisitor be good for delve? I was thinking of this build for delve before i had seen this video
Do you have the PoB yet for DD Chain Reaction Necromancer?
I think i wanna start that one, after been trying elementalist in standard end gamge. i just want to be Tanky. and it's also good that i can scale it to uber bosses any ways..
i started playing 2 weeks before affliction ending, want to start next season with DD, which one should a new player start?
not the coc dd, any of the other two showcased in the video should be fine.
What MTXs is he regarding to? I just checked out MTX on desecrate/DD and they seem like they're even more complex for GPU then defaults
What is a good pob for dd of chaining necro you would recommend?
Thanks for the video!
I am very unfamiliar with DD, how much worse would it be on chieftain? Would it be possible to league start and to transition into something else later?
It's a lot worse on chieftain because you basically get 0 cast speed and 0 dmg from your ascendancy and you're kinda on the wrong side of the tree
Chieftain is a completely different style. Your damage from chieftain is all from your 5% explode. You need a TON of AoE to make it feel good to make your explode as big as possible. Not to mentioned, capped ignite chance and global ignite prolif. Great build for mapping, but single target will suck, esp without warlock ascendancy.
will be nice all lvling pobs at description, ty for video
Do you have a pob for the CoC Detonate dead? thanks
Does anyone have some leveling POBs or recommendations for Necro chain DD?
have you got any POB's for the inquisitor plan?
Starting SSF this league, used to SC Trade. Would you recommend Ele or Necro for someone less experienced in SSF gearing/progression?
Necro you would have a much easier time hearing. I also do SSF and would reccomend investing in expiation and betrayal and you will be able to get all the gear you need
can you please put ignite DD build?
Where do we find the PoB for the CoC DD one?
can someone provide necro dd leveling build?
what do you think about archimage hit based dd?
Where i can find a nice league starter guide for DD Necromancer?
badass dude
Is there fps difference between void and stygian desecrate?
Kitava Thirst ok to use for lower level mapping?
Do you have a dd ignite pob up to date?
hey! i'm having no life regen at all, what am i doing wrong?
pls where can i copy your endgame atlas tree