Received my Safari a week ago. Decided to go with the Safari over the XL for a little more durability. I don't backpack camp much. Mostly car and motorcycle, and the Safari was perfect for that. Finally got to test it out on my first overnight last night. The first time for anything can be a little bumpy, but it went pretty smoothly. I have always wanted to be a big hammock camper, but I'm mostly a side sleeper. Well, not mostly, fully a side sleeper lol. I'm also a large person. 6'3" @ 245lbs. Quickly laying diagonal in a normal hammock just doesn't work easily for me. Also, those middle of the night restroom tree visits don't work very smoothly in a normal hammock for me at all rofl. Something always gets out of whack and I end up struggling for 10 minutes or more in the dark trying to make it right again only to fail one way or another and just make do. I had to get up twice last night(few too many drinks before bed), and it was smooth and fast. Everything stayed in place, and getting in and out was quick and easy. I hate spending money on big purchases like this, but this was well worth it. No regrets. Thanks for making such a great product!
My haven xl showed up last week, got it setup as a bivy tent since I have no trees in the yard but excited to test this weekend before my kayak trip in July. Awesome tent and high quality product. Great work from Derek and the team at haven.
I love my XL🙂 I was in a Hennessy for over 10 years. Your Haven goes up and down just as fast! I put all my gear including my pack inside with me😀 I love love love it!
Anxiously waiting for my Haven Safari to arrive this June sometime. Have an ebike camping trip planned for July. Even bought a nice new bicycle trailer to haul any extra weight. Still a few items to come as well to fill out my camping arsenal, like a cpl's corner camp grill
So I’m a newb to when it comes to hammock camping. I tell myself I do love it like the rest of us. The thought of having room for my broad shoulders is fng amazing lol
I LOVE these tents. I have the original and the safari. I'm glad that you made the safari with tougher material. This is definitely a tent worth passing down. Now, one simple request that can make your tents THE BEST system out there. You know how they have mini hammock that you can attach underneath hammocks and use them as storage space for gear? Why not make one for the haven that attaches at the four grommets on the bottom of the tent that can double as a storage shelf and a footprint for the times when one intends to use it as a bivy. I love thine safari but the ground cloth is a bit small. For the rainy days I could've used it as a gear cover when I used it as a bivy.
Any opinions or feedback as far as the difference between Safari and original goes? I tried the Safari due to it being "tougher" but I don't see anyone with experience post anything about the subject. I tried the Safari but got wet after a side wind, so I have opted to go for the original+ a bigger rainfly. It seems like the original and the Safari seem to be very much the same, with the only difference being the material. I had a hard time breathing in the Safari when I had the rainfly closed to compensate for the storm, and if only I had a bigger rainfly I could avoid getting wet regardless of which model I used. Would love to hear your experience in difference.
@@g-bone5354 the Safari and the xl are basically the same. I have the original, which is the kickstarter edition and has a smaller shoulder width compared to the xl and the Safari. The original is 27 inch wide and the xl and Safari are 29 inches. If you don't have the rubber mattress fully inflated, then it will droop and cause the middle to sag where water may seep in. I've never had that issue cause I use a pump (Haven sells one with a usb charger option). Honestly, I use a 10x12 tarp over the hammock that way I have a "porch area" for those all day rainy camps so that I can stretch my legs and make a nice camp fire at the tail edge of the tarp. I usually don't fully cover the hammock with the tarp because it has the one that comes with it so I just drape it just a bit over the hammock with another guy line over it and I'm set. I recently purchased a one wind zippable tarp that can be used as a footprint, or store the stuff in and staked the the ground to keep the pesky critters away and keep dry. If haven came up with a shelf system for the tent I'd use it so I didn't have to hang it on a tree or in a separate tarp to cover it cause the hammock would do a perfect job covering the stuff since it would be suspended right below the hammock. Other than that, I'd definitely recommend latching the center of the hammock to the tarp so that the rain wouldn't seep through, or just check the wind direction before you put up the hammock. Either way, I hope you are enjoying the hammock as much as I am both mine.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I am trying to understand the difference in practice between the Safari and the XL, so that I can choose the one that is fit for me. So far I am leaning on the XL cus it is lighter to pack and I would Imagen better possibility to breath in due to its lighter materials, where the Safari would be more for keeping the R value higher. What do you think personally of the differences and what have you noticed about the difference between Safari and XL?
I like the Safari but it is too heavy; ideal for car camping but at 6kg, too heavy to hike with. So I'm buying the Haven XL. I've lost 10kg and I'm only 15kg over your 129kg capacity but I watched the 1,000lb video. I am confident Derrick is a good bloke, genuine and honest ( like The Gambler I've made a living out of reading people's faces, hahaha). I realise until I lose the next 15kg I might void my warranty but I doubt I'll have to test that. This is simply an awesome product.
I got the XL and i love it,,,the safari is nice but being that they're the same size i went with the XL camo,,,just because I love green and camo,,,all in all best hammock ive ever had,,,i love it it is awesome and very comfortable
I know a guy that would be perfect to help promote your tents. He is Sterling Noren and his channel is “motorcycle travel channel”. Tons of viewers, an overall great guy, awesome cinematography on his channel. He’s currently releasing his second “riding solo” trip. He does a lot of camping from hammocks to tents in the desert and the trees. I’m sure he would be interested in the XL or the Safari. He would give an honest review and I know this product is right up his alley. You really should get in touch with him and if he won’t do a review on it, I will. Great product and l like the versatility. Randy McCotter
Will buy an XL model as soon as I come off current deployment in Europe. I’ve always disliked tent camping off the back of my motorcycles, but this may just make me change my mind.
These look awesome! I want one! The only problem is, I live in a place that isn't too likely to have a lot of big trees close together. Can haven tents be used free-standing like a regular tent too?
Hello, i just purchased the XL and am hoping its the correct one for me. I am 6'3 at 225 lbs without any gear. How much can the XL hold? I saw the stress test, but i wont be needing nearly as much, just hoping 250~ for the sleeping bag and other nick knacks. Should i be fine?? This is my first venture into the camping world and chose Haven Tent as my first choice. Hopefully buy once cry once 😂
What if you're a heavy dude, and also a short dude at the same time (thus concentrating the weight on a smaller area)? Would the XL and Safari (and their anchor straps) hold up to that. 5'3"/280lbs.
First, I didn't expect a reply... at all... from my insignificant comment. Very impressive. But I do have a question, I can't seem to find an answer. Your site offers a sale with no pad reducing the weight. But does this structure require a pad? And is that offered as a replacement for damage. It has no explanation. And to a novice, who has never purchased this product, we are left with questions that may be obvious to the professionals. It does seem it wouldn't work without a pad. I could be wrong, and would love a 4 to 5 lb version as hiking is my goal.
No problem, I’m happy to help. We have the option of buying our tent without a pad as some people already have a pad would work with the Haven Tent. But you are right, our system does require a pad. Ours will be a little heavier than your target weight, but a whole lot more comfortable! make it a great day. Derek
Wait for it! Wait for it! The Haven Pop and Drop. When a pole goes straight thru the pole pocket and ripped the side of any and all Haven hammocks because of pics poor pocket design.
Hi there. What you’re describing is super rare and something we are working to reinforce for all future models. Aaand we always replace the tent in this eventuality. We stand by our stuff.
@@HavenTents That's what was said when the first one failed and I accepted that but when the replacement failed for the exact same cause I have to wonder just how rare this really is. I admit move a lot in my sleep being a side sleeper and maybe this is part of the problem. I know I'm well within the limits for the XL, weighing 216 at 6ft 1 inch, so I still insist it's the pocket design. I've got dumped twice so at 74 I'm not sure about dropping again.
@@HavenTents sorry I went on TH-cam and found a video on how to set up the tent on the trees… Thank you. Sorry about the poor dictation on my original posting.
Received my Safari a week ago. Decided to go with the Safari over the XL for a little more durability. I don't backpack camp much. Mostly car and motorcycle, and the Safari was perfect for that. Finally got to test it out on my first overnight last night. The first time for anything can be a little bumpy, but it went pretty smoothly. I have always wanted to be a big hammock camper, but I'm mostly a side sleeper. Well, not mostly, fully a side sleeper lol. I'm also a large person. 6'3" @ 245lbs. Quickly laying diagonal in a normal hammock just doesn't work easily for me. Also, those middle of the night restroom tree visits don't work very smoothly in a normal hammock for me at all rofl. Something always gets out of whack and I end up struggling for 10 minutes or more in the dark trying to make it right again only to fail one way or another and just make do. I had to get up twice last night(few too many drinks before bed), and it was smooth and fast. Everything stayed in place, and getting in and out was quick and easy. I hate spending money on big purchases like this, but this was well worth it. No regrets. Thanks for making such a great product!
So happy to hear! Thanks for hanging with us 😊
I see what you did there!
My haven xl showed up last week, got it setup as a bivy tent since I have no trees in the yard but excited to test this weekend before my kayak trip in July. Awesome tent and high quality product. Great work from Derek and the team at haven.
Thanks Brian! Excited to go kayaking with you 🛶
Your kids are adorable! You should put them at the end of every video.
Thanks 😊 I think so!
I love my XL🙂 I was in a Hennessy for over 10 years. Your Haven goes up and down just as fast! I put all my gear including my pack inside with me😀 I love love love it!
Anxiously waiting for my Haven Safari to arrive this June sometime. Have an ebike camping trip planned for July. Even bought
a nice new bicycle trailer to haul any extra weight. Still a few items to come as well to fill out my camping arsenal, like a cpl's corner camp grill
This is a great idea!
You should also consider selling a separate replacement mattress, just in case the original fails while camping.
We do!
So I’m a newb to when it comes to hammock camping. I tell myself I do love it like the rest of us. The thought of having room for my broad shoulders is fng amazing lol
I LOVE these tents. I have the original and the safari.
I'm glad that you made the safari with tougher material. This is definitely a tent worth passing down.
Now, one simple request that can make your tents THE BEST system out there. You know how they have mini hammock that you can attach underneath hammocks and use them as storage space for gear?
Why not make one for the haven that attaches at the four grommets on the bottom of the tent that can double as a storage shelf and a footprint for the times when one intends to use it as a bivy.
I love thine safari but the ground cloth is a bit small. For the rainy days I could've used it as a gear cover when I used it as a bivy.
Thanks!!
@@HavenTents
Thank you for coming up with this amazing hammock. And the customer service is outstanding!
Any opinions or feedback as far as the difference between Safari and original goes? I tried the Safari due to it being "tougher" but I don't see anyone with experience post anything about the subject. I tried the Safari but got wet after a side wind, so I have opted to go for the original+ a bigger rainfly. It seems like the original and the Safari seem to be very much the same, with the only difference being the material. I had a hard time breathing in the Safari when I had the rainfly closed to compensate for the storm, and if only I had a bigger rainfly I could avoid getting wet regardless of which model I used. Would love to hear your experience in difference.
@@g-bone5354 the Safari and the xl are basically the same. I have the original, which is the kickstarter edition and has a smaller shoulder width compared to the xl and the Safari. The original is 27 inch wide and the xl and Safari are 29 inches. If you don't have the rubber mattress fully inflated, then it will droop and cause the middle to sag where water may seep in. I've never had that issue cause I use a pump (Haven sells one with a usb charger option). Honestly, I use a 10x12 tarp over the hammock that way I have a "porch area" for those all day rainy camps so that I can stretch my legs and make a nice camp fire at the tail edge of the tarp. I usually don't fully cover the hammock with the tarp because it has the one that comes with it so I just drape it just a bit over the hammock with another guy line over it and I'm set. I recently purchased a one wind zippable tarp that can be used as a footprint, or store the stuff in and staked the the ground to keep the pesky critters away and keep dry. If haven came up with a shelf system for the tent I'd use it so I didn't have to hang it on a tree or in a separate tarp to cover it cause the hammock would do a perfect job covering the stuff since it would be suspended right below the hammock. Other than that, I'd definitely recommend latching the center of the hammock to the tarp so that the rain wouldn't seep through, or just check the wind direction before you put up the hammock. Either way, I hope you are enjoying the hammock as much as I am both mine.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I am trying to understand the difference in practice between the Safari and the XL, so that I can choose the one that is fit for me. So far I am leaning on the XL cus it is lighter to pack and I would Imagen better possibility to breath in due to its lighter materials, where the Safari would be more for keeping the R value higher. What do you think personally of the differences and what have you noticed about the difference between Safari and XL?
I like that you can cover the hammock with the rain fly for storm protection. I got wet twice in a Hennessey hammock, I'm done with Hennessey.
I like the Safari but it is too heavy; ideal for car camping but at 6kg, too heavy to hike with. So I'm buying the Haven XL. I've lost 10kg and I'm only 15kg over your 129kg capacity but I watched the 1,000lb video. I am confident Derrick is a good bloke, genuine and honest ( like The Gambler I've made a living out of reading people's faces, hahaha). I realise until I lose the next 15kg I might void my warranty but I doubt I'll have to test that. This is simply an awesome product.
I got the XL and i love it,,,the safari is nice but being that they're the same size i went with the XL camo,,,just because I love green and camo,,,all in all best hammock ive ever had,,,i love it it is awesome and very comfortable
Glad you're enjoying the hang! Thanks for sharing 🌲😴🌲
Outstanding, and I believe the Safari Hammock is on my wishlist. I'm an author, not an outdoor TH-camr so I'll be paying the full price next spring.
I know a guy that would be perfect to help promote your tents. He is Sterling Noren and his channel is “motorcycle travel channel”. Tons of viewers, an overall great guy, awesome cinematography on his channel. He’s currently releasing his second “riding solo” trip. He does a lot of camping from hammocks to tents in the desert and the trees. I’m sure he would be interested in the XL or the Safari. He would give an honest review and I know this product is right up his alley. You really should get in touch with him and if he won’t do a review on it, I will.
Great product and l like the versatility.
Randy McCotter
Will buy an XL model as soon as I come off current deployment in Europe.
I’ve always disliked tent camping off the back of my motorcycles, but this may just make me change my mind.
These look awesome! I want one! The only problem is, I live in a place that isn't too likely to have a lot of big trees close together. Can haven tents be used free-standing like a regular tent too?
You can set it up on the ground and use trekking poles to keep the ridgeline tight.
Dude. Im so stoked to get my Safari; i cant wait.
Nice!! 😊
Hello, i just purchased the XL and am hoping its the correct one for me. I am 6'3 at 225 lbs without any gear. How much can the XL hold? I saw the stress test, but i wont be needing nearly as much, just hoping 250~ for the sleeping bag and other nick knacks. Should i be fine?? This is my first venture into the camping world and chose Haven Tent as my first choice. Hopefully buy once cry once 😂
Do you have a lightweight version in the making by any chance? I wish i could afford this though. Seems like such a good solution! Well done
Hello! The standard with the light fly is out lightest option. Thanks for taking a look ✌️
Hello, I wanted to know if the bug net was a single or double zipper configuration?
Can you please go further in depth of what actual difference the Safari vs XL makes in practice?
Any plans to add a Dyneema tarp option?
What if you're a heavy dude, and also a short dude at the same time (thus concentrating the weight on a smaller area)? Would the XL and Safari (and their anchor straps) hold up to that. 5'3"/280lbs.
Yep no problem. You’ll need to lay closer to the center of the hammock. But you’ll figure that out! ✌️
@@HavenTents Sounds good. Thanks!
nice
Genius!
Thanks!! 😊
The kid is right. You should have done his slow motion directors call.
Haha!
the only thing i miss.. is an storage spot for my helmet
You can clip the straps of your helmet around the ridgeline and slide your helmet toward the end of the tent for storage! ✌️
First, I didn't expect a reply... at all... from my insignificant comment. Very impressive. But I do have a question, I can't seem to find an answer. Your site offers a sale with no pad reducing the weight. But does this structure require a pad? And is that offered as a replacement for damage. It has no explanation. And to a novice, who has never purchased this product, we are left with questions that may be obvious to the professionals. It does seem it wouldn't work without a pad. I could be wrong, and would love a 4 to 5 lb version as hiking is my goal.
No problem, I’m happy to help. We have the option of buying our tent without a pad as some people already have a pad would work with the Haven Tent. But you are right, our system does require a pad. Ours will be a little heavier than your target weight, but a whole lot more comfortable! make it a great day. Derek
Wait for it! Wait for it! The Haven Pop and Drop. When a pole goes straight thru the pole pocket and ripped the side of any and all Haven hammocks because of pics poor pocket design.
Hi there. What you’re describing is super rare and something we are working to reinforce for all future models. Aaand we always replace the tent in this eventuality. We stand by our stuff.
And if your issue hasn't been resolved, please contact us at support@haventents.com
@@HavenTents That's what was said when the first one failed and I accepted that but when the replacement failed for the exact same cause I have to wonder just how rare this really is. I admit move a lot in my sleep being a side sleeper and maybe this is part of the problem. I know I'm well within the limits for the XL, weighing 216 at 6ft 1 inch, so I still insist it's the pocket design. I've got dumped twice so at 74 I'm not sure about dropping again.
Which haven tent is the biggest ?
I was looking for in the video how to set it up with the trees at Sutter. How hard is that? The one thing I needed to see wasn’t showing.
Sorry, what trees?
@@HavenTents sorry I went on TH-cam and found a video on how to set up the tent on the trees… Thank you. Sorry about the poor dictation on my original posting.
All good 😂 I did a couple of google searches to make sure I wasn’t missing anything. Yes, the setup video shows the regular tree hang ✌️ best of luck!
What about the whole big thing with zippers. Does any have the double zippers ?
The Standard and XL use two detachable zipper tracks with single pulls. The Safari has a single fixed track with 4 pulls. Hope that helps!
Will you consider double pulls on the XL in future for easier in out when lots of bugs are present?
Sadly I'm 125KG weight
The XL is rated up to 130 kg the Safari up to 158!
@@HavenTents thanks for information 👍👍👍
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