Ranking Every Sonic Forces Level

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  • Frontiers is right around the corner, which means that Forces will be 5 years old soon. I've categorized every stage in the game from least to greatest and I don't think I'll ever be the same again. Cyberspace ranking: • Ranking Every Sonic Fr...
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  • @toamatoro570
    @toamatoro570 ปีที่แล้ว +1480

    "And a decent run time of 40 seconds" Forces in one sentence, basically.

    • @Terminal_Apotos
      @Terminal_Apotos ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Eh Every level is about 1 Minute (not counting QTE’s) if you’re Above Average in terms of Skill.

    • @lks19
      @lks19 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@Terminal_Apotos "Above average", yeah right. I mean, it's somehow easier to get S ranks in this game than Gens.

    • @Terminal_Apotos
      @Terminal_Apotos ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@lks19 I’m saying people who know the Fastest Route and how to utilize the Physics/Move set to carry out skips throughout the level. Ranks Mean nothing in Forces.

    • @jayevans6146
      @jayevans6146 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@Terminal_Apotos wooh a whole minute. So much more than *40 seconds*

    • @jayevans6146
      @jayevans6146 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      **Frontiers

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    16:20 Interesting thing about the giant infinite creatures. There’s a glitch where you can use the void wisp’s Secret hover ability (that you can only activate if used to teleport and you land above a death pit) you can actually walk inside those things arms (since he never hit them they don’t have collision) and on the inside they actually have a blue water texture instead of the black one we see in the final product. Makes me wonder if those things were initially meant to be Perfect Chaos’ originally?

    • @feiradragon7915
      @feiradragon7915 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Wouldn't surprise me. They look so weird compared to Infinite himself and the fact Chaos was brought back as an illusion like the other antagonists makes me think the devs had at least some plan for him. Really wish there'd been a Chaos boss and a Shadow clone boss. The game plot hinted at that happening without doing anything with it, even in the dlc content.

    • @supermariozeldaoflel
      @supermariozeldaoflel ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Their model skeletons are shaped like Chaos as well. The skeleton includes what would be Chaos' head tendrils.

  • @impressivebutt8484
    @impressivebutt8484 ปีที่แล้ว +330

    “You can die on this hill if you want, but lord knows you won’t gain speed going down it.” I love that line. And as someone that actually likes Forces quite a bit it’s def one of those games that so hard to put how I truly feel about it. Some days I like it, other days not so much. It’s the most middle game I’ve ever played cause it was so close to greatness and has some amazing gameplay moments but so many of those moments are neck in neck with the disappointing. Never outright bad imo just disappointing

    • @MechaLeo
      @MechaLeo ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Right alongside "to its credit the pinball physics are better than the slope physics." They have this trend of writing down the proper recipe for Sonic feel and then handing the recipe to some interns asking them to make it from scratch again. Next time we see 3D classic sonic he'll take flight from exiting the loops. Keeps things... fresh...?

    • @Susseton
      @Susseton ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Omg same!

    • @the-point-bearer6689
      @the-point-bearer6689 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Legit ditto, the graphical Marvel this game has is brilliant, the concept of the character do have the potential to mess you up in controls and other sorts, but in my point of view, it's a glorified gemstone that grants you gravity manipulation, telekinesis and duplication, that's about it really along with Infinite have the methodology of Mephiles, Metal Sonic and one of the Deadly Six.

    • @xamp_exclammark
      @xamp_exclammark 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MechaLeo Yknow,the flying from loops thing kinda happens in Superstars lol,but it's an automated gimmick

  • @StockeTepes
    @StockeTepes ปีที่แล้ว +849

    Cannot believe it been 5 years, the disappointment from finishing this game still feels so fresh lol. While many of these levels had great moments & ideas most all of them were SO SHORT. I found that being my biggest disappointment with so many of them. There were a lot of times where I felt like a level was JUST getting good and then it just… ended. Hope the Cyberspace Levels in Frontiers learn from this game 😔

    • @son-of-1810
      @son-of-1810 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      We’ll, the cyberspace stages aren’t the meat of Frontiers so the focus definitely wasn’t on them. They’re not terrible, they’ve reused level layouts from previous games but it’s on purpose here, so it has meaning. But almost everyone who’s played the Frontier’s demo has said the game is either good or great, just that cyberspace is the weakest part.

    • @lakotapruitt5773
      @lakotapruitt5773 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@son-of-1810 while they may not be the main meat of Frontiers, they do seem to gradually pick up in quality as the game goes on, with 1-7 being the best Cyberspace level we've seen so far. If they can keep that momentum going for the rest of the game, then Cyberspace might be worth checking out.

    • @lolcat
      @lolcat ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They aren't. Look just as barren and short. Dunno why people are expecting much from the same team lol

    • @Sydney_Angelyt
      @Sydney_Angelyt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      from what we've seen, they don't as they're just as short

    • @Sydney_Angelyt
      @Sydney_Angelyt ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@son-of-1810 "I was lazy ON PURPOSE so it's okay!"

  • @kiritosintern
    @kiritosintern ปีที่แล้ว +196

    It’s a crime how Arsenal Pyramid’s first theme was only being played for 10 seconds. The full track is a banger. Also, I’m not a fan of quick step segments, but when Guardian Rock’s chase soundtrack went on I really didn’t mind it because of how sick it sounded.

    • @tabbywarrior
      @tabbywarrior ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Unleashed has too many as well I agree

    • @zf10studios52
      @zf10studios52 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tabbywarriorI think they’re fun, but maybe it’s the scarcity.

  • @thegamingnerd4
    @thegamingnerd4 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    If Luminous Forest was a one-time thing, the only level where you can just GO, it would absolutely be my favorite. I love the idea of a single level where the objective is simply to rip through an area, tearing your way from Point A to Point B, with absolutely no regard for the entire army in-between. As it stands, though, it just serves as a perfect illustration of the issues with Forces. I still like it, but the snake completely kills the flow. Anytime I replay the stage, I just exit level as soon as I get to it.

    • @hydro3739
      @hydro3739 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Luminous forest actually has a short cut a lot of people missed (myself included until I found it on a whim). At the beginning of the section of the windy half-pipe, if you follow the enemies up the side, there's a homing attack chain that leads off the path and a neat short cut with rings and goes straight to the snake I think.

    • @aqchristianz7524
      @aqchristianz7524 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@hydro3739 The snake is the problem.
      Not how you get to it 👍

    • @bickuribox12
      @bickuribox12  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@hydro3739 I know the homing chain on the left soon after the transition back into 3D on the half pipe, but it doesn't go straight to the snake. Are you referring to a different one? I'd like to know where that is, if so.

    • @hydro3739
      @hydro3739 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bickuribox12 okay imma be honest i haven't played forces in a hot minute and I was kinda talking out of my ass so my memory may be wrong about it going to the snake, but i do remember it cutting through that half-pipe section.

    • @youmeltube
      @youmeltube ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bickuribox12 Theres two homing chain ones at the start of each halfpipe. The first one is to the left and the second to the right.
      They don't SAVE the level of course but its fun to nail upward airboosts to reach them without homing attacking.

  • @descartesthehedgehog6064
    @descartesthehedgehog6064 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Would love to see stage rankings from other games, like Mania.
    "You can die on this hill if you want, but Lord knows you won't gain speed running down it" made me laugh so hard

  • @shadowclone452
    @shadowclone452 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    My main issue with forces is one that a lot of people don't seem to talk about (or at least articulate very well). It's the acceleration physics. When you first start walking, you barely seem to move at all, but then in the span of about 1 second, you hit top speed. This makes platforming feel VERY strange. I either jump right after moving the control stick and barely go anywhere at all, or I wait slightly too long and send myself flying over the platform I was aiming at. I can adjust to this, but I can't help but feel like I shouldn't have to, y'know? It feels like a very specific "game feel" problem that is unique to Forces.

    • @Kirbstern4
      @Kirbstern4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here. It was the first thing I noticed back when I tried out the JP-only switch demo of the game

  • @jaredtherock5692
    @jaredtherock5692 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That joke a little before the 7 minute mark was such a specified jab. I started rolling with laughter.
    The fact that only a Sonic fan could make and appreciate that joke makes it even more hilarious.

  • @grape2743
    @grape2743 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Shadow has always been the character used in "hard mode", and I feel that he complements forces levels well. If we had seen all the levels be like his, the game could've felt more like colors, which was actually pretty good tbh.

    • @Pinkio
      @Pinkio ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i've come to make an announcement shadow the hedgehog is a bit---

    • @nm5329
      @nm5329 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Pinkio No thank you.

    • @Squishito
      @Squishito ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The game is already exactly like Colors, same director and everything. That's the problem lol. Forces level design would be right at home in Colors. It's also just as stupidly easy and short, they have almost the same issues. The game should have probably been more like Generations, seeing as they basically lied in the marketing to make it out like Forces was a Generations sequel with the same devs. And plus, unlike Colors, Generations is actually decent and feels remotely like a Sonic game in design.

    • @magicmanthegeez330
      @magicmanthegeez330 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Squishito oh boy here comes more Colors Slandered 😭

    • @jugglenaut1955
      @jugglenaut1955 ปีที่แล้ว

      He pissed on my fucking wife

  • @sehtuk3953
    @sehtuk3953 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Super interesting to look at this mostly from an S-Ranker's perspective. Suddenly there's a lot of level flow that wasn't there before. That's really cool, and the air boost especially looks cool.

    • @Keurgui1
      @Keurgui1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honestly
      It actually feels like the game has a skill ceiling

    • @mrpro538
      @mrpro538 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Keurgui1It gives me SA1 Spin dash vibes

  • @SilverSpireZ
    @SilverSpireZ ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I can’t believe it’s already been five years since Straight Line Simulator 2017 released.

  • @imhungryish8274
    @imhungryish8274 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    THE KING HAS POSTED

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash6466 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    As disappointing as Forces was, there were some levels I legit think could have stuck out as legitimately good Sonic stages if they were give a bit more effort. Metropolitan Highway, Network Terminal, Mortar Canyon and all of the tag team levels showed potential in their level design and had some of the best music in the game.

    • @TobytheHedgehog
      @TobytheHedgehog ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A longer Null space(The First Part where they are in Null space)

    • @JuggaloStoner669
      @JuggaloStoner669 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better and Longer shadow stages

  • @badersimari5693
    @badersimari5693 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Your gameplay actually makes this game look fun.

  • @CCJ15S
    @CCJ15S ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:53 "bite-sized stages in a game... made of bite-sized stages" That got me and is literally Sonic Forces in a nutshell lol 😂😂😂

  • @jravee5994
    @jravee5994 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "You can die on this hill if you want, but Lord knows you won't gain speed running down it." oh my god

  • @Ismatic1906
    @Ismatic1906 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love mortar canyon. My main problem with it is that most of the level design can be skipped by jumping once or just holding forwards. For example the section where there are three paths has a ramp that lets you skip the whole section no skill required. I do like all the platforming when I’m not ignoring it to beat my best time by a millisecond though.

    • @bickuribox12
      @bickuribox12  ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Would be great as an intro stage. Let players jump around for a quick minute, boost through enemies carefree, and air boost where we see fit to get used to how everything works. Then the "real" game would start afterwards. Of course, a 3 minute Mortar Canyon with the scope of Egg Fleet would be amazing too.

  • @VI_universe
    @VI_universe ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “being on the top or the bottom is a very different experience than the other” you got that right

  • @skeLPCgamez
    @skeLPCgamez ปีที่แล้ว +120

    As much as Forces disappointed us, I somehow always enjoyed this game from day one due to my attachment of the game from a nostalgic view of 2017, the first time experience being fun and the soundtrack being my favourite in the series with its synth approach. That remains unchanged (but of course, without ignoring its flaws). The floaty double jump and OP air boost really change up how you play the levels and speed run them to your advantage. My personal favourite levels are (in no order): Ghost Town, Arsenal Pyramid, Imperial Tower, Mortar Canyon, Enemy Territory, Null Space, Egg Gate, Park Avenue and Sunset Heights.
    I do wanna bring your Attention to Forces Re-Imagined mod. It remixes the level layouts with new paths, tougher object placement, and even completely NEW extensions of the stages to make them more akin to 2-3 minutes. That new Sunset Heights man was what I originally envisioned the level would’ve been before what we actually got. I think Sonic Forces was trying to take a more cinematic approach with its automated and dodging level design, but it finally does get realised in that mod with the grand setpieces.
    The next demo will be at SHC 2022 this month (October).

    • @conormcgregor6054
      @conormcgregor6054 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      YOUR FAVOURITE SOUNDTRACK IN THE ENTIRE DAMN SERIES???
      Pass me that shit you’re smoking bro god damn 🚬

    • @dunkboyxd6618
      @dunkboyxd6618 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@conormcgregor6054 Bro the Forces Soundtrack goes hard 🔥🔥🔥

    • @conormcgregor6054
      @conormcgregor6054 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@dunkboyxd6618 personally I found it the most forgettable along with Lost World when it comes to Sonic Music.
      Forces has a few good tracks but it’s mostly overshadowed by the dogshit screeching synth that ruins a lot of them. It’s the vocal themes that take it for me. Especially light of hope.

    • @lolcat
      @lolcat ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@conormcgregor6054 lost world goes HARD bro

    • @lolcat
      @lolcat ปีที่แล้ว

      I liked the changes but it looked very unnatural I hope they improve on that. Random metal blocks and things

  • @Validoleech
    @Validoleech ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "The level is 40 seconds long" simulator

  • @nicolasmartinez4337
    @nicolasmartinez4337 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i love hearing u articulate ur thoughts in these man

  • @blueninja840
    @blueninja840 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Babe, Wake up New Bickuribox video dropped

  • @devmysta
    @devmysta ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your voice and delivery is fantastic! How could I NOT hit the subscribe button?!

  • @SonicWind149
    @SonicWind149 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    17:45: "'Cause this isn't just Green Hill-- this is _Green Hill_ Green Hill. They're not messing around now."
    Never fails to get at least a snicker out of me, no matter how many times I hear it.

  • @gustavoluiz1657
    @gustavoluiz1657 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I was really surprised when you said that Virtual Reality is the best stage in Sonic Forces because I think so too!
    I actually loved mastering this stage!

  • @WolfXGamerful
    @WolfXGamerful ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The opening segment made me wheeze like a madman as bick was conveying his deteriorating mental state with the conviction of someone who was running for president and the absolute calmness of an untouched reservoir.

  • @lauraseuk
    @lauraseuk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i love how your making forces sound more interesting

  • @ParmMannREBORN
    @ParmMannREBORN ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Five years yet the disappointment feels as fresh as ever

  • @Henleash
    @Henleash ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dang has it really been 5 years?
    Although I still really don’t like this game and still feel the after effects of disappointment from this, I can’t help but also feel nostalgic. It was my first sonic game that I actually waited for from when it was teased to it’s release, instead of just stumbling upon it randomly at a store. Great job on the video!

  • @mechashadow
    @mechashadow ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:23 You see this rail grinding is the predecessor to cyberspace from Sonic's memories so Tropical resort is reused and won't be reused any time soon, I'm sure =3=
    5:30 Nice Death Egg reference formed by hoops tho'

  • @frontiersmodel4781
    @frontiersmodel4781 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The thing that made me enjoy a lot more these levels are physics improvement mods that really make an upgrade to the Classic Stages (even if I alredy enjoyed them in the Vanilla game, but not to much), they're actually fun to play and I love those multiple pathways to take. You know, I like this game (6.5 is enough for me lol and maybe's because I didn't belong to its respective hype train), but I think that it would have been a great idea to make it as a full 2D game, why? Well, because of the 2D sections, they're actually pretty good and fun to master (I'm not saying that the entire of 3D sections are bad, not at all), seriously, even if they're way to short. For an example, I LOVE the Metropolitan Highway 2D sections because you need fast reaction input for make an insane speedrun full of satisfaction. Great video, as always. See you soon in Frontiers! (also, don't worry, I also like Iron Fortress).

  • @Chase1.9
    @Chase1.9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I don't think I've ever clicked on a video so fast in my life.

    • @ZMATRIX_06
      @ZMATRIX_06 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

    • @CD_-ox5ls
      @CD_-ox5ls ปีที่แล้ว +3

      same

    • @bickuribox12
      @bickuribox12  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You are simply too fast

    • @guh2709
      @guh2709 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Faster then sonic himself

  • @Katie4
    @Katie4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It really is a shame that Forces has so little to offer despite it having so much potential. Mortar Canyon makes me so upset because everything about it is so high stakes, from the music to the visual design to the environmental explosions. But it just ends before the stage really begins. A lot of stages in this game had the chance to be these big epic setpieces, similar to the ambitions of the Storybook games, but they all just kinda fall flat.

  • @purplemountainmeow
    @purplemountainmeow ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Having not played this one, gotta say some of the environments look incredible, metropolis especially.

  • @Nimta
    @Nimta ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I almost kind of want you to rank every game's stage in a single video just to see how low all of forces would be... but that would be a six hour video that I and most other people would definitely not end up watching lol

  • @tardissins7512
    @tardissins7512 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Oh hey, fire cannon 2! I think I still have the wr for that one. The speedrun tech for the 2d modern stages is pretty fascinating

  • @BlazingAuras
    @BlazingAuras ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Null Space escape is without a doubt the best imo. When people think of a fully 3d stage this comes close to it. Metropolis highway and egg gate come close.
    I hope this game gets a remake in the future because as much as I enjoy it, it's just way too short, it could've been as decent as colors

  • @sails8218
    @sails8218 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i feel like putting sunset heights above mortar canyon is a crime, lol
    nice video though, i'd like to see you do a ranking on Sonic Unleashed, it's my personal favorite Sonic game and one you haven't really covered

    • @bickuribox12
      @bickuribox12  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It absolutely is, but half the list is so interchangeable that I had to draw the line at some point and say "No, I am done".

  • @kaplooeygames8515
    @kaplooeygames8515 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Glad Enemy Territory was up so high. That was the one stage I actually tried to speedrun. Boosting over the one gap with the giant robot to skip the long downward slope felt like I was flying. Not a great game, but I did have fun playing it

  • @theskyknight1002
    @theskyknight1002 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey, in the final judgement stage, the reason inputs get eaten is that you would have quick stepped into one of the wheels apparently. It's really annoying and unclear, which is why it feels like it gets eaten.

  • @waypastcold
    @waypastcold ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've also replayed Forces recently and I kinda liked it. The fact that so many people hate this game is pretty sad to me. I wasn't suprised that the Iron Fortress was so high on the list at all I really like that stage because it really forces me to focus if I want to beat my time record. I played the Frontiers demo at gamescom and thanks to this video I can now see how they improved the boost stages in frontiers based on all the feedback that they got from Forces. The original layouts in Frontiers cyberspace levels are mostly focused on quick reaction time and cool shortcuts that you can make based on the knowledge of the level. Great video!

    • @thatitalianlameguy2235
      @thatitalianlameguy2235 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, it's sad that this game is so lame. It's the dmc2 of platformers

  • @silversonome5360
    @silversonome5360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "You can die on this hill all you want, but _Lord knows you won't gain any speed running down it"_ is perhaps the funniest and most accurate criticism of Forces' mechanics I've heard, thanks a lot, Bickuribox

  • @Desm0708
    @Desm0708 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man I know you posted a poll a while back asking how people found you and obviously the top answer was your sonic content but the way you structure your videos and read your script is so entertaining, you could do variety content and I'd still watch

  • @Pirate_Knight27
    @Pirate_Knight27 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love watching Sonic level rankings! Sonic Unleashed or Generations has some of the best levels! Would love to see you rank them!

  • @MrAirforce464
    @MrAirforce464 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    After watching the video and hearing how well you articulated your opinion in each stage I’d love to see you cover sonic unleashed stages & sonic generations

  • @Astarst
    @Astarst ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love the video and honestly u give me more appreciation for forces than i could ever give it credit for.

  • @uhobme2028
    @uhobme2028 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly the soundtrack almost makes me wanna play it again. Some really good stuff there

  • @tonytiger5111
    @tonytiger5111 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video, Dude! 👌 I guess its only fair to do generations and mania next or maybe pitch in on the zone rankings that everybody is doing with origins.

  • @sebastianmartinez5963
    @sebastianmartinez5963 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really liked your video bro. Personally, I like Sonic Forces, it's not my favorite Sonic game, but it's one I can have fun with. Yes, I know it's short, and it has a lot of automation, but that didn't stop me from enjoying it.
    My favorite level is Null Space, because, not only is it 90% 3D, but it's possibly the level with the most alternate paths, plus the Fist Bump theme gives pure adrenaline vibes. Other levels that I like are: Park Avenue, Metropolitan Highway, Sunset Heights, Egg Gate, Ghost Town, Network Terminal, among others. It must be admitted that Shadow in this game did pretty good, not only because he had good levels, but because the character was well written and his participation was adequate, not to mention the good performance of Kirk Thornton, a shame that many people overlook it's.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    19:55 I will say, this part of the level (with the big drop and a ring of enemies) is EXTREMELY satisfying to use the Cube Wispon in. Probably the only part of the game where it actually feels good to use... It only lasts a second though, but man I definitely recommend trying it at least once.

  • @illu1409
    @illu1409 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'd love to see you rank the stages of either of the Adventure games! Since there's varying playstyles it'd be interesting to see how they stack up against one another in your ranking.

  • @sebastianescalante5618
    @sebastianescalante5618 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Metropolitan Highway for Sonic, Guardian Rock for the Avatar and Death Egg for Classic Sonic.
    Those are my favorite stages with each character, and the ones I bothered to speedrun the most, I... Actually liked Forces far more than the Internet made me believe I would, to the point I even bothered to grind 100%!.

  • @Woodeater-xm7zq
    @Woodeater-xm7zq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was surprised by your placement choices the whole video, but it’s very refreshing to hear some positive things about these levels everyone usually hates, so nice job!

  • @Marqrk
    @Marqrk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One nice little touch about Virtual Reality is that they bring back Supporting Me from SA2, which makes some sense because both situations are desperate battles for shadow to fulfill his duty
    In SA2 he was fighting the biolizard to keep his true promise to Maria to protect the world and help people be happy. In Forces he’s trying to escape Infinite’s mind trap to get back out and fight against Eggman, all the while hearing distortions of his friends telling him nothing is wrong.
    It’s just such a nice touch and if they gave that care to the rest of the game it would’ve been amazing

  • @CATCHTHERAINB0W_
    @CATCHTHERAINB0W_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is gonna sound strange, but you're the kind of youtuber i'd want to sit down and have a very intricate conversation with

  • @chantingmammal
    @chantingmammal ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't believe it is 5 years since Forces released, and actually these levels of the game are amazing and I do not mind it being short but these levels really has great ideas, I hope The Cyberspace Levels of Frontiers learn from the mistakes of the levels of Forces but this video made me wanna play Forces before Frontiers but I am so excited for Frontiers and I hope it improves on the gameplay of Sonic Forces.

  • @sausage5488
    @sausage5488 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video reminded me how I actually had fun playing Forces when it came out

  • @scrimblocoded
    @scrimblocoded ปีที่แล้ว +2

    25:50 made me laugh my ass off the return of the adrenaline rings at the last second really ties it all together

  • @galothymos6628
    @galothymos6628 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved this style of video and your delivery on jokes were great, subbed 👌👌😄

  • @sanicspooder
    @sanicspooder ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly when I saw the thumbnail and read the title I thought he wasn’t gonna do this, then I clicked on the video…
    he actually did this…

  • @lumi_wish
    @lumi_wish 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video was a joy to watch, thank you. I have a big soft spot for Forces, had a blast playing it and sunk 50 hours into it in spite of its many shortcomings, so seeing someone talking about each stage in depth was very nice. I might return for a second playthrough and try some of the stomp boost tricks you showed off.

  • @ZacTheCrippleFTW
    @ZacTheCrippleFTW ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the way you write your scripts! Very witty! You read them in such a...like, straight facing tone it's great! If I ever started this whole TH-cam thing I would use your scripts as a quality standard for sure. (subbed btw)

  • @ThatGuyImortal
    @ThatGuyImortal ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I just say I seriously love your videos? They ain't flashy, but there's an air about them that I utterly adore! Your comedic timing with your cuts is on point, and your voice is funnily enough soothing to listen to, you sound like a guy I could have a fun conversation with! Keep up the great work with your videos!

  • @EonNite
    @EonNite ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Metropolitan Highway was such a wonderful stage. A shame it was so short.

  • @sophiebubbles07
    @sophiebubbles07 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Mortar Canyon is way too fun to just boost through. It’s definitely a highlight of the game for me.

    • @shaankelly1302
      @shaankelly1302 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel the same way about Luminous Forest. I like mortar Canyon more bc its more involved and if you want you can do the optional platforming but Luminous Forest is what i pick when i wanna shut my brain off and kill EVERYTHING. Also has a nice little alt route at the end. Mortar Canyon is great. Metropolitan Highway is my favorite stage tho

  • @michaelwave9831
    @michaelwave9831 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should definitely try ranking all the Sonic Unleashed stages! While the werehog ones are still pretty lengthy, they always have tons of variety, and can even be optimized to be completed anywhere from 6 to 15 minutes depending on the stage! And the boost stages are still extremely good, providing amazing speed and platforming like always!

  • @kao7143
    @kao7143 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video! i completely agree with you on these points as someone who speedruns and casually plays forces often
    classic's levels can be really fun when you know what you're doing, aqua road is tight and exhilarating with great music to boot, metropolitan highway, null space (they should've called it something else since its 90% metropolis lol) egg gate and network terminal are some of my favorite stages in the entire game and the fact null space is as open as it is is insane because i was finding hidden pathways i didnt even think about taking on a different playthrough!
    the secret/extra stages are a really nice addition and the concept of extra gimmick centric stages could actually work out way more
    im personally excited for cyberspace but i really hope we get some fun stages to play through and id love to see you rank those as well!

  • @eternal5953
    @eternal5953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was very entertaining as someone who shares a lot of the same views and experience with this game. your #1 level is the one I had so much fun grinding when the game was new that I held the #1 spot on the in-game leaderboard for a small amount of time. I'm generally not a speedrun person so I'd consider that a win for the level design.

  • @BmanTV
    @BmanTV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "this feels like they wanted to make a video game" in that tone was peak

  • @finnfinanimations137
    @finnfinanimations137 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    weirdly i also came back to this game just yesterday and just found out this video, im having fun with it, im trying to perfectionate my runs to make it the fastest posible and its quite fun

  • @BinaryArmorOnline
    @BinaryArmorOnline ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never even played the game but you're making me want to.

  • @willem6605
    @willem6605 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad I found this channel. Great (and perfectly cut) jokes, an easy-to-listen-to voice, and a modest statement of opinions that don't bash you over the head. If I had to ask you to go through another game's levels and rank them, Sonic Generations has some beautiful level design that I'd love to see you tackle.

  • @highlightermarca-texto3281
    @highlightermarca-texto3281 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad to see someone else recognize Shadow's levels are the best in the game.

  • @JollyGiant64
    @JollyGiant64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoyed this video. 1.) Because it's a good video and I like your content. 2.) Because it's not just "this game bad" repeated over and over for 30 minutes like most videos I've seen regarding this game. I played it for the first time this year, in one sitting, and while it's definitely not my favorite by a long shot, and there are plenty of moments and aspects I really don't enjoy, there are a lot of aspects I do enjoy and I'm finding myself almost wanting to go back to it. So, it's nice to see a video that appreciates this game.

  • @wanderlustwarrior
    @wanderlustwarrior ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate that this is mostly positive about Forces. We all know the game's problems, but there was something there.

  • @jinxmybeloved6930
    @jinxmybeloved6930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    holy fucking shit
    new bickuribox12 video
    *yippie*

  • @gamernerddownunder
    @gamernerddownunder ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would actually like to know what your ranking of the bosses are? To be honest I don't really like much of the levels but my favourite level is the first Infinite Boss on the snake in luminous forest.

  • @theeverythingchannel_yt
    @theeverythingchannel_yt ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's always a great day when bickuribox12 uploads a video!

  • @healsgood9147
    @healsgood9147 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been a long time fan of your rotmg content and I love the direction the channel has gone in! you also seem to enjoy it a lot more. I love this video but I just wanted to point out the lack of background music feels a little off. still a great video tho, thanks for making these

  • @Igorincrivel
    @Igorincrivel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U're a legend! lol
    I think I could hear u talking about Sonic all day

  • @CentipedeChan
    @CentipedeChan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sonic forces had so much going for it with level ideas and stuff and it's a real shame they never fully committed to anything. Best way I can put it is a playground of ideas but it leaves the park early after playing on only half the equipment

  • @SUPERFunStick
    @SUPERFunStick ปีที่แล้ว

    I find watching your videos is a decent way to vicariously play post 06 Sonic games, minus mania of course. Mania is perfect and I keep replaying it about once a year. So good.

  • @StickmanGuides
    @StickmanGuides ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting perspective on the level design in Forces. Looking at it through a casual speed running lens by maximizing the efficient use of various speed improvement tech was unique and gave me a new found appreciation for the more intricately designed 2D sections. Like you said, I wish we didn’t have to make a choice between short yet slightly complex and long but shallow, but it’s just how it is I suppose. Fantastic video as always man! Keep it up!

  • @mentlegen3887
    @mentlegen3887 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soothing voice, funny yet concise commentary, and a dopamine inducing ranking of a game from my favourite series about anthropomorphic animals from another world? This guy gets my -vote- subscription!

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Although there is a lot of mediocrity in sonic forces I can’t say there are definitely some levels that really show that there was some talent among the game designers. Maybe if 2/3 of them didn’t have to make over 30 levels in their first attempt at the sonic game, when they’re still trying to find the rhythm with it, things may have turned out better?

  • @therealdatenshi
    @therealdatenshi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    absolutely loved egg gate personally, i used to speedrun that a bunch: dropping down from the rail just before the loop, and falling your way onto the three rail bit was always really fun
    remember also really liking null space too - especially the music
    and also remember being surprised that on metropolitan highway, i was surprised you had to actually steer yourself whilst boosting.

  • @tabbywarrior
    @tabbywarrior ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How did I miss this? I love the game despite its flaws so I'm glad ur making this!!!
    P. S. I love that you included the extra stages lol

  • @obviousirony641
    @obviousirony641 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo, just wanted to to give props to you for being one of the only people on TH-cam to say good things about this game. Sometimes I think I'm crazy because for some reason I keep coming back to this game I don't mind Nintendo switch I've clearly put more than 90 hours on it. This was one of my first modern Sonic games I played. I have colors but I just can't come to terms to finish that. I have Mania and although the gameplay is fun I got bored with it's difficulty in the last level...went right back to playing Forces. Only other modern sonic game I have is Sonic Origins and even though the public reception wasn't the best for it I enjoyed it because we could play the old games on the switch. But still...I enjoy the hell out of Forces. Not cuz of the story either, which I kno is a missed opportunity. Speed running it in handheld mode is where the fun is at, in my opinion. I think if the Developers had more of those bonus levels and focus more on finishing a level as fast as you can should've been more of the focus since the game was rushed in a way. Sonic forces just should have been a speed running game you can create your own character in. One thing they could have added which could have been cool as if you created your own character and try to race Sonic. That would've been a nice touch. Keep the vids coming and showing appreciation to such a fun yet mediocre yet "divisive" game lol

  • @supersysscvi
    @supersysscvi ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting opinions. ^^; I'll admit, I wasn't expecting half the levels to have positive spins on them; I also didn't expect you to be such a precise speedrunner. :O I did not know half of those skips in the footage. You did focus more on gameplay than level design, too, so it's always good to see a different opinion on things. ^^;

  • @Pinkio
    @Pinkio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i've been having this video on my recommended since it was posted 4 days ago LOL i love it

  • @turkeysandwich1703
    @turkeysandwich1703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew had we to be on the same wavelength when it got to the top 10s. Green Hill Virtual Reality and Metropolitan Highway are truly fun levels with great music, and I can replay them infinitely

    • @turkeysandwich1703
      @turkeysandwich1703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also isn’t it strange how Classic Sonic didn’t get a single bonus level to himself? I feel like a couple of the modern stages would’ve benefitted more from Classic being playable in them. Specifically the ones with no boost capsules

  • @PokechiYT
    @PokechiYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shoutout to the out of bounds clip you can get in casino forest where after falling into the void for a bit, the camera changes to a 3d perspective

  • @Vantoxify
    @Vantoxify ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video. Makes me appreciate Forces a little bit more

  • @Eazy_P_40
    @Eazy_P_40 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Virtual Reality isn’t a stage I really bothered with a few years ago, but starting last year, I really started to grind it because it’s actually incredibly challenging to speed run. Very happy to see someone else appreciate it, as it’s a very nice stage.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly imagine if they had EMBRACED the boost-to-win concept, and actually made something fun with it... Basically the Sonic equivalent of a Warriors game. Imagine if every level was like Mortar Canyon, but way WAY longer and with more variation. Boosting through armies of enemies would be the highlight of the game if they could just execute it properly and made it more of an actual _game._

  • @jacksondavis3355
    @jacksondavis3355 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I finished this game back in 2017, I didn’t know what to feel about it. I generally had an ok time with it but constantly just wanted so much more, but I’m pretty sure that’s the consensus of what the fandom thought of this game.

  • @maximemht1015
    @maximemht1015 ปีที่แล้ว

    good video, with solid picks. as for me, my fav level is Ghost Town. it's just a blast to learn to speedrun, and not unnecessarily too long.

  • @SayuriSRC
    @SayuriSRC ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fantastic rankings! Honestly, I was surprised to see some Classic stages high up, and your top 10 picks as well were quite good! I've been speedrunning this game since the day it came out, and I often forget to think about the casual perspective of things. This is incredibly refreshing to see, so thank you for this.
    Also, my personal favorite stage - casually speaking - is Null Space! Funnily enough, Null Space is a god damn nightmare in speedruns, but casually, it's SO fun! I love the insane amount of alternate pathways at your disposal, and there's truly a hundred different ways to play through it. Never gets old!

  • @GRAY32X
    @GRAY32X ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love to see a ranking of all the Shadow the Hedgehog stages!