How to Dress Like a Girl

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  • @gloomscrolling
    @gloomscrolling 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2417

    Does that person who criticized you not realize that plenty of cis women have broad shoulders, no defined waists, small/flat chest, and they still wear what they want? 🙄

    • @hardyorange
      @hardyorange 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +319

      Seriously, F1nn measured his shoulders in a stream to "prove" how wide and "unfeminine" they were so he "couldn't" wear certain things, and multiple AFAB folks in chat piped up to say, hey, our shoulders are that wide or wider! Lots of ballerinas have a very similar silhouette to Ashley, with a noticeable ribcage under a small chest, but that silhouette is mostly thanks to wearing a tight leotard and circle skirt, aka the outfit recommended to Ashley. I do think AMAB folks, weather trans or just trying out different clothes, fall into a bit of a trap of assuming that their bodies are uniquely unsuited to "women's" clothing and that's why nothing fits the way they want it to. However, if you go check out fashion forums by and for cis women, you'll find they experience all of the exact same problems! Turns out the only people who look like the fashion models advertising the clothes are the models themselves (and with photo editing, often even they don't look like they do in the ad) because every body is different and that affects the drape of the garment.

    • @gariden
      @gariden 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

      @@hardyorangef1nn’s stuff about height and broad shoulders and stuff is always a little funny because i’m taller and broader than him (man-shaped, you could say) as an afab person and when i was a woman, nobody ever had any issues with it. now i’m a guy it’s only benefits for me, but it didn’t really cause issues on the other side. i like to share this with trans fems cause it really isn’t as big of deal as it seems like it is coming into it!

    • @jumemowo
      @jumemowo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      exactly !!

    • @shaziaamin898
      @shaziaamin898 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Is she trans or a woman, sorry for the dumb question i just stumbled upon this video

    • @hardyorange
      @hardyorange 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

      @@shaziaamin898 She is trans AND a woman! 🙂

  • @ratking927
    @ratking927 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +738

    I was born female but have an androgen disorder that affected my development. Not only do these kinds of videos help me learn how to look feminine, they also help my confidence knowing that I’m not the only girl who’s dealing with this stuff.
    I’m really glad there are people out there making this content and I hope trans girls know that if they’re struggling with feeling / dressing feminine, it doesn’t make them less of a woman. There are a lot of cis girls who struggle with the same feelings.

    • @murkiz7213
      @murkiz7213 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      this comment made my day, thank you

    • @jadewe1235
      @jadewe1235 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I actually cried reading this, thanks you so much

    • @linneathesystemsdruid308
      @linneathesystemsdruid308 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi sorry if this is a weird/personal question but what’s an androgen disorder? /genq
      Also i really like your pfp

    • @ratking927
      @ratking927 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@linneathesystemsdruid308 androgens are male sx hormones (like testosterone or DHEAS). They are higher in males and are the cause for many masculine features. But, despite the name, females also have these hormones, only in lower amounts. An androgen disorder is any disregulation related to these androgens. A pretty common hormone issue in females is PCOS which can mean higher androgens or an androgen sensitivity.
      My case is mild but I had it from a young age and there is evidence it can cause small changes to your skeletal structure. A common symptom is differences in where you store fat, leading to a masculine silhouette. Long story short, I’m a surf board baddie. No hips. Flat ass. All shoulders 💪🏻😎 some females with this even grow facial hair or develop male pattern baldness. When it’s severe, it can almost be like an intersex condition.
      This is a special interest of mine so I apologize for the wall of text but it is genuinely so fascinating. Some hypotheses about why PCOS is so common in particular is that it’s actually an adaptation that helps us survive famines.
      And thank you! Ever After High is such an under-appreciated show

    • @TheDerpyDeed
      @TheDerpyDeed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      this is kind of what I say to people to explain that I'm trans
      "so... the sticker on my arm is to help with this hormone disorder where my body doesn't produce enough estrogen on its' own, it was caused by my being born "male" "

  • @P1nstr1p3
    @P1nstr1p3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1868

    Thank you for laying out some basics of outfit creation! I’m NOT a super girly transgirl, and your fits often feel closer to something I’d actually want to put on. Keep slaying!

    • @sloshykeychainsharks
      @sloshykeychainsharks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      d’aw this comment is so sweet . i love trans people !!!! ( im nonbinary )

    • @asuka_the_void_witch
      @asuka_the_void_witch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      id say this is hella girly especially becaues, like she said, her body carries the outfit. ijust look like a cross dressing man.

    • @KaileyTheAlien
      @KaileyTheAlien 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@asuka_the_void_witch Don't worry much about it, "passing" just means you're okay to be sexualized by straight men (I'm coping)

    • @SinatraTarantino
      @SinatraTarantino 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      💀💀@@KaileyTheAlien

    • @GilbertGaylord
      @GilbertGaylord 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@KaileyTheAlien bro what

  • @frosty_790
    @frosty_790 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1343

    I am a man and would never pass as a woman. But I really like feminine clothing. It's really nice to learn tips and rules like this. I will try to follow them when choosing my clothes. Thank you, Ashley. You are awesome. ♥

    • @GreatBanshee
      @GreatBanshee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

      So true. Why do girls clothes just look so much better than guys clothes? I've tried so hard to find ways to make my shoulders look smaller just so I can look natural in them. 😭

    • @grimm8761
      @grimm8761 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      @@GreatBansheeya fr i only buy girl pants now, 1 because i have a skinny waiste, most guy clothes dont go skinny enough in the waist without losing out on length, 2. womens sizing is so much easier, you try on a 6 if its too tight on the waist go up a number, its only one number to look at, 3rd the length doesnt change with waist size on most girl pants which makes it super easy to find something that fits especially bell bottoms

    • @gariden
      @gariden 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      @@grimm8761i’ve never seen someone say women’s sizing was easier before lol. i guess with your issues with sizing it would be but that’s wild

    • @kapiernegativ
      @kapiernegativ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I've seen that video. I'm on your side when it comes to the t shirt wearing. Nano is convoluted. i have no faith whatsoever.

    • @orinpearce5980
      @orinpearce5980 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@GreatBansheeif it helps any, I've heard that loose shouldered shirts are really good if you want to have smaller shoulders, because you'll still know what your shoulders look like but to an outside perspective it'll just look like a whole lot of negative space! But from my own perspective, long sleeves help a ton more than you expect

  • @perfectparadox7389
    @perfectparadox7389 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +152

    “How to pass as a girl ft. my boyfriend” is such a mood love ittt

  • @raphaellauf7786
    @raphaellauf7786 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +443

    Not trans or anything but even for me as a guy, this was very helpfull. Id love to hear more on fashion theory and outfit creation because this helps alot

    • @Fofo-sr2xu
      @Fofo-sr2xu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Not trans either, I dunno how useful this is for me, but it was definitely entertaining to watch.

    • @justaguy4311
      @justaguy4311 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      >male
      >sees "how to dress like a girl"
      >clicks
      same bro same

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@justaguy4311 ive been called out

    • @misteryA555
      @misteryA555 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I've been watching fashion content lately because I realized I'm in my mid twenties and I should stop wearing a t-shirt and shorts every day because it makes me feel like a teenager. One of the channels I watch said that men can take a lot of cues from women's fashion if they don't want their outfits to be stuck in the boring zone of men's fashion, so I watch videos about women's fashion sometimes too. They usually have more colors and styles and I appreciate that. Though how easily I can transfer that to my own masculine outfits has yet to be determined.

    • @taylorp.-zm7hu
      @taylorp.-zm7hu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@justaguy4311unironically, I just want to know how to dress feminine without doing it the girl way

  • @robinerino
    @robinerino 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +412

    i totally agree with icky
    i think its a bit of a toxic misconception that in order to pass you need to dress 'femininely' which is an idea we need to get rid of entirely really
    Men can wear skirts and spaghetti straps and still look bomb af and women can wear baggy sweaters and still look cute
    If i look at old pictures of myself when i was just starting to try things out, i pretty much wore exactly what the other creator told icky to wear, and god, looking at those pictures. I looked horrible! it looked disproportionate, too hyperfeminine, and dont get me wrong im a super feminine person and usually show it through my fashion, but that just wasn't it. Its just a 'trans' outfit, i barely ever see women wear stuff like that and it just really accentuated all the wrong parts.
    I only have one thing as a trans person i've noticed icky doesnt do and i think could help as well, which is regarding the MM6 outfit, the idea that the tight jean skirt accentuates the hips is true, but it does so even more so if its worn slightly higher, this just makes that bottom section larger, follows the full curvature of the hips toward the waist, and shortens the upperbody tremendously, which gives a really 'feminine' frame, long legs, short upper body, dont wear it too high, but usually halfway past the navel is perfect.
    Even with cis women who wear low cut pants or skirts on the lower region in general, i feel lose alot of hip shape, and could benefit from wearing that higher. Though it could be personal preference, but maybe something to try

  • @Ekachu
    @Ekachu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +629

    As a transgirl overwhelmed by the amount of content about wardrobe and passing, this video is a lifesaver! Short, but with lots of good information and a simple but effective "rule" (if you even want to call it that, given the point of this video!). I'd love to learn more from you, Ashley!

    • @ffreedomvat3737
      @ffreedomvat3737 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same

    • @pizzanessfunnie
      @pizzanessfunnie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same!

    • @Teki2137
      @Teki2137 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you will never be a real woman

    • @Surpendo
      @Surpendo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Teki2137 you will never be a functional member of society

    • @randoavis2
      @randoavis2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Surpendo What did they say?

  • @rumblin_cynth_rampo374
    @rumblin_cynth_rampo374 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +324

    As some one who transitioned (MtF) over 3 decades ago the information that both Nano and Ashley are presenting is very similar to that which was given in fashion mags back then (remember no internet in the 90s). You have to work out what works for you and what doesnt work for you. It really helps if you have a critical friend, some one who isnt scared to tell you that this colour is wrong for you or you look like a bag of spuds tied in the middle.
    Ashley's points about wearing extremely feminine clothes all the time is really good, no woman does this(well maybe in the 50s and 60s they did). As for the age appropriate remark, yes this is so true. Back when I was starting to transition (1991) i had 2 friends who were constantly being read, the first wore ultra femme clothes, full over the top make up all the time l (she was about 25 then), the other friend was older, yet she dressed like some one from the 50s. Both of them looked out of place so people paid more attention and thus they were read.
    The best bits of advice I was given was subtly de-emphasis the strong features (in my case quite broad shoulders) and emphasis the weak (make my hips look wider), smile and look like you own the place

    • @HighAdmiral
      @HighAdmiral 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      What do you mean by "to be read"? Does that mean "to not pass"?

    • @rumblin_cynth_rampo374
      @rumblin_cynth_rampo374 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      @@HighAdmiral yes, sorry old terminology.

    • @HighAdmiral
      @HighAdmiral 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting @@rumblin_cynth_rampo374

    • @helline9
      @helline9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i agree with all of this :)

    • @jnharton
      @jnharton 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think that last bit could apply to women in general, but also men if you apply it in reverse. At least if you're aiming for some sort of idealized feminine or masculine appearance. --- After all, people don't all come in exactly the same shape, proportions.

  • @ReddZed
    @ReddZed 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I genuinely don't understand how she could use you as an example of what NOT to do.

  • @valegory
    @valegory 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

    i appreciate that this turned a potential point of drama into an extremely helpful and informative tutorial

  • @knowledge_leaf
    @knowledge_leaf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    0:10
    "Not only pass better"
    I watch a lot of Finn's content, and there has been absolutely 0 moments where I didn't think you passed.

  • @suhnnysideup
    @suhnnysideup 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    clothing has no gender ‼️‼️💗

    • @LucyStarQueen
      @LucyStarQueen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Probably the main reason I didn’t realise I was trans earlier was because I thought being a girl meant I couldn’t dress how I used to. Identity≠expression

    • @MarfansGoth
      @MarfansGoth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All clothes can be girl clothes if you stop being a little b1tch about it. /jk lol

    • @tikimillie
      @tikimillie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LucyStarQueenbless

    • @femboyorganist
      @femboyorganist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True

    • @LaPrincipessaNuova
      @LaPrincipessaNuova 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Except for my sentient scarf. Their gender is valid.

  • @snowcity1735
    @snowcity1735 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +772

    I’m a trans man but i still watch this and it makes me really happy!

    • @P1nstr1p3
      @P1nstr1p3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      Homie is doing the EVEN problems in addition to the odd ones so he understands the concept more fully. Poggers, dude.

    • @xero.93.
      @xero.93. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      me too lol, gotta support all the trans creators

    • @mostlyxconfused
      @mostlyxconfused 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I'm a trans girl who just started her hrt, this stuff helps me just generally feel better lol

    • @MichaelDavitt1
      @MichaelDavitt1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ashley looks fantastic in anything, including f1nn 😮

    • @RollingDutchmann
      @RollingDutchmann 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Bro I'm a straight cisgender man... Ashley is really funny

  • @MariaMAM96
    @MariaMAM96 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +153

    I am a cis woman and I am in love with your fashion style, while mine in reality is TOTALLY like F1nn's LMAO. I am not "less woman" for not wearing a skirt, for not showing my cleavage, for not having my nails done, for not stylizing my hair, etc.
    We, as women, can dress WHATEVER WE WANT as you said.💛Clothes don't have genders.

    • @Arrow333
      @Arrow333 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I, as guy, am kind of jealous that women in fact can basically wear what they want. It doesn't really work that way for men (unless you are cross dressing).

    • @Sarawarawara-
      @Sarawarawara- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ⁠@@Arrow333 Yeah, we still have a long way to go in terms of gender norms being pushed on people. Hopefully one day we’ll get to the point where boys aren’t ridiculed for liking feminine things, as if that’s supposed to be shameful/

  • @Sirscruggz
    @Sirscruggz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    My girlfriend is trans and I send your vids to her. But in all honesty, I love learning bout this kind of stuff for myself. Helps me understand more

    • @Miss_Claire
      @Miss_Claire 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      I'm talking to a guy right now who, when I came out as trans to him after a few weeks of talking, basically told me he's 100% ignorant about trans stuff but would love to learn more. He said I was just like any other beautiful woman to him. It's good to know people like you and him exist in the world. Cheers.

    • @Sirscruggz
      @Sirscruggz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@Miss_Claire why thank ya ma’am. It’s a pleasure to always learn more

    • @Leihhh
      @Leihhh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      This comment is so wholesome

    • @meisrerboot
      @meisrerboot 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your feminine boyfriend you mean

  • @spiritofthewoods3013
    @spiritofthewoods3013 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    "Is it less feminine? Who cares."
    Honestly, that is just such an amazing thing to live by.

  • @shamefulbrainbot4742
    @shamefulbrainbot4742 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I'M A CIS GUY I SWEAR

    • @rbccafrg
      @rbccafrg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      youre whatever you want to be :3

    • @noahsaville
      @noahsaville 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rbccafrg heres what i think can help regular people not dismiss us as living in lala land and instead understand and accepting.
      Reality? Noo your not whatever you want, your physically a gender, one thing and can't just switch what you are back and forth one day or the next and expect people to accept you as a girl when you have a nice shlong to whip across there face.
      HOWEVER what we physically are in reality in our body Does not at all define and limit what gender or pronoun WE FEEL we are inside our spirit concious living essense of life, which is the more important thing anyways, not just what meatsuit we got. It's this detail that is what really matters and is also way easier for people to accept and understand our reasons.
      You can't expect people to take you seriously and treat you seriously when we switch up one day or use pronouns that even most lgbtq+ never heard of, identifying as something outside for others to understsnd isn't as important as accepting who you want and feel you are to be, and we need to stop canceling people who dismiss us not because they don't accept us beyond what gender attributes but because we complicate ourselves beyond even each other's comprehension so people say screw it.
      Much love

    • @gangstalkedindividual
      @gangstalkedindividual 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@noahsaville what are you rambling about?

    • @janthran
      @janthran 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@noahsaville i expect people to give me basic respect because i'm a person, don't really see why my pronouns should affect that at all. this seems like a you problem

  • @mattwilcoxuk
    @mattwilcoxuk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +492

    I can't imagine unsolicited "advice" on how anyone else "should" dress, or look, or behave, is ever good. Regardless of intent. Policing how other people should "be" is bullshit.

    • @zuterwer1835
      @zuterwer1835 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

      Yeah, in a non bashing way, the original creator used some red flag vocab.
      Using "Can't ever wear X" is not the way to give advice.

    • @proximacentaur1654
      @proximacentaur1654 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Yes my thoughts exactly. No-one asked for the advice, and why presume they care what you think? But you know social media be like that sometime,

    • @inactiuveuser69
      @inactiuveuser69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that's what i was always taught

    • @sophiepooks2174
      @sophiepooks2174 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True, some girls like wearing traditionally feminine clothing and hats some girls don't, personally I don't like the clothing most girls where I live wear today, because I think it's unattractive, dull, lazy, utilitarian, yet I don't that is their choice what they feel good in but still I feel pressured by the majority to have to wear hoodies, sports shoes and sportswear or else be thought an attention seeker, or "shill for the male patriarchy".

  • @LylaTheLich
    @LylaTheLich 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    In what planet is a rude outfit critique full of body shaming supposed to be helpful?

  • @Lasanke
    @Lasanke 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    I transitioned 6 years ago, and the mindset of Icky is perfect. Like in the end NO ONE CARES. Anyone can and does wear anything. As long as you are confident in it it is perfect.!

    • @numbum9394
      @numbum9394 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      True, except man cannot wear women clothes without being laughed at or assaulted. Women can wear anything they want. About sex equality or something...

    • @davidsworld5837
      @davidsworld5837 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      may be not a man should not wear women's cloths because it draws attention to them more.
      A man who dresses and wear make up, etc so looking more like a woman can. it is more the degree of looks. and attention that is given to the person
      so a man can only wear and no one cares when they look more like a woman than a man.
      while a woman can just wear both and no one cares.
      but really is does not matter. no one should care on way or the other, on what some one else is doing as long as it does not harm any one. or is exposing themselves to others that is wrong.

    • @numbum9394
      @numbum9394 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah it should be like that, but in reality it is sadly not :(

    • @marciamakesmusic
      @marciamakesmusic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@numbum9394literally braindead

  • @ardenorcrush649
    @ardenorcrush649 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Your measured tone while handling baseless criticism shows you're a chill and kind person. Blessings of Akatosh upon ye.

  • @semi.
    @semi. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    I used to enjoy Nano, but they've made hurtful and gatekeeping remarks about who is or isn't trans. In a stream, they suggested one needs at least two of the following: gender dysphoria, social transition, or physical transition. This perspective invalidates those who can't transition yet due to personal circumstances. While Nano may not intend harm, she frequently defends her views without considering the feelings of others. Despite her entertaining content, I no longer support or watch her.

    • @pizzanessfunnie
      @pizzanessfunnie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      They also take every opportunity to talk about how HRT is bad and people should try to transition without it. Meanwhile they use ahegao faces in thumbnails. It comes off as super weird

    • @thecolorbread
      @thecolorbread 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      That's because Nano got called out precisely once for this sort of thing in a Reddit thread and seems to have developed a savior complex as a defense mechanism from it ever since in addition to openly calling on non trans folk to rush to her defense. She's put herself in a spot where she can't be wrong about one thing because it opens up room for her to be wrong about other things, so she doubles down on already bad takes in order to keep her boat from sinking. People like Icky using it as a teaching opportunity, and in doing so making it a VERY gentle rebuttal, are the best ways to handle people like that.

    • @Simona2103
      @Simona2103 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well, aren't you an ordinary person if you don't have dysphoria?

    • @semi.
      @semi. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@Simona2103 the main criticism of that is some individuals might not notice the dysphoria they have always lived with. Case in point, I didn’t notice my dysphoria until after I had made a number of trans friends and heard their stories of dysphoria. What’s more, the more I explored my gender expression, I would often uncover “new types of dysphoria.”
      Point is, any “test” has to be one that doesn’t exclude anyone that now or in the future may identify as a trans person.

    • @jeffafa3096
      @jeffafa3096 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I enjoyed Nano's content too, but my interest in her streams dropped after her intent to eat dog food. At that point her content became too weird for me...

  • @shibapwrr
    @shibapwrr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    That video honestly made me so incredibly uncomfortable I’m ngl, gave me dysphoria if anything. Their whole vibe just throws me off, it’s good to know I’m not the only one with similar sentiments .
    Omgggg these were some exceptional rules of thumb executed in a very compassionate, informative, and entertaining way ! Also you are very pretty, they aren’t wrong !!

    • @thecolorbread
      @thecolorbread 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Because one is geared towards how to dress as a stereotype of feminine appearance and the other is geared towards how to dress to be happy.

    • @hatsunemiku8007
      @hatsunemiku8007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      because the asian guy is one of those nasty "femboys" and he says cringey stuff like "bussy", most girls dont even dress like he does

    • @inactiuveuser69
      @inactiuveuser69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and the tone felt incredibly shitty........

    • @cottonandballs
      @cottonandballs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@thecolorbread The girl who criticized Ashley didn't even get it right. It is the most pheminine thing ever to wear oversized T-shirts at the place where I live in. There's a reason why the whole "wearing your boyfriend's T-shirt" thing exists.

  • @junoestro
    @junoestro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    the other creators video just made me upset and feel terrible about myself, and this one was unbelievably helpful and very trans positive and was just amazing. thank you sossosoo much for making this

  • @abbyboyd5111
    @abbyboyd5111 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    I am 58 and just recently started transitioning. Though this advice was not for my age bracket it is still appreciated because there is basic common sense advice in there that I can use in determining what to wear. It is greatly appreciated! Thank you.

    • @pizzanessfunnie
      @pizzanessfunnie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      You got this!!

    • @abbyboyd5111
      @abbyboyd5111 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@pizzanessfunnie Thank you. That is also appreciated. 🙂

    • @Lia-kx6kz
      @Lia-kx6kz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🖤🏳️‍⚧️⚧️

    • @rubiks5659
      @rubiks5659 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very happy for you, wish you well on your journey o7

  • @oat_mew
    @oat_mew 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    such a good video ❤
    Personally i love dressing in a "Girl in too big boy clothes" type of way.
    Havent even gotten my HRT yet but i still accidentally pass all the time while supposedly boy moding. (accidentally passed in multiple countries during traveling)
    Ik this is anecdotal but still.. i think dressing in a forced way often creates a sence of awkwardnes? that you can sence. Dressing how you personally want to is awesome and the vibe of you being in the clothes you want to be in IMO also helps with passing.
    My suggestion is to look for fashion tips and inspiration WITHIN the style that you like, instead of just someone giving general instructions to "wear that to woman"

  • @corvigae
    @corvigae 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Honestly as an artist this is some good advice for character wardrobe design for me, lol. Lovely video as always, Ashley!

  • @screaminghorse8818
    @screaminghorse8818 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    every icky video is so validating and so important and so helpful and thank you so much good god i cannot express how useful these videos are and please do more fashion shit you have the best style

  • @quinn2002
    @quinn2002 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    nano nano respectfully doenst know what she’s talking about.

  • @sihlgritsenko805
    @sihlgritsenko805 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You're outfits actually inspired me a lot. Currently rocking the oversized hoodie and short skirt regularly

  • @nbrowser
    @nbrowser 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Classy rebuttal Ashley, well thought out and well presented.

  • @iana6713
    @iana6713 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It's always great to see someone speak of something they're passionate about - you made this really interesting to watch, even to me who has pretty much zero fashion sense!

  • @rudymelo880
    @rudymelo880 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like the positive spin you took on the topic and the helpful tips as well

  • @TaylorTheOtter
    @TaylorTheOtter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    GODS YES! I'm so happy to hear you're gonna make more videos on the subject! This video was super helpful and I honestly want a whole series about fashion theory! If you could go into masculine and androgynous styles, that'd really help my enby ass figure out what directions I can go in with my personal fashion. I took a huge step in my therapy last week and I went into a clothing store for the first time in about 8 years. Not only that but I finally was able to muster the courage to look in both the men's and women's section and I bought a women's cardigan (I'm AMAB). I can't really explain how big of a step this was for me. I'm finally confident enough to show myself as I am after 13 years total of intense therapy. It did create a problem in that I now hate my whole wardrobe other than one pair of skinny jeans, four t-shirts and my new cardigan... Figures if my mom bought all my clothes for my whole life because my anxiety kept me from going to pick them out myself. Anyway, didn't mean to share my whole life story but it kinda just happened...

  • @eskimoskater9192
    @eskimoskater9192 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so helpful, I can't believe I'm just hearing about thirds in fashion. I think about thirds a lot with photography so it's cool to see how it works in another visual artform.

  • @CraigeMachine
    @CraigeMachine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    ive never really been into fashion but over the past few weeks and especially the past few days, ive been looking more into fashion and finding out who i truly am. i know the kind of clothes i like but i dont know what goes with what or what will look alright in what situation but this did help, because i had never heard of the 2/3rds rule thing before but it does make sense XD so thank ya! hopefully this helps other people as much as it helped me :) you're all awesome! (you too ashley and finn :))

  • @ShallWeRiot
    @ShallWeRiot 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    More fashion! Also love how gracefully you responded to that video. Could have chosen "different" segments to cut from the original vid, but you choose to keep her in a better light and just kept things constructive. Jaw dropped! Queen 👸
    I'm a cis lady and always wanted to get more into fashion, but never had it explained in a way that resonated with me before 😊 I don't like dressing super girly girly, and I've always been told to follow the traditional advice - similar to what you were responding to! I like different silhouettes, and now I kinda understand why better.
    I'm only mentioning that I'm cis because I want it known you're not simply a "Trans icon". You're an absolute fashion icon everyone can relate to 😊

  • @ruadeil_zabelin
    @ruadeil_zabelin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I absolutely love that last outfit you showed at the end to make it actually work. Very inspirational

  • @CL0WNCART00N
    @CL0WNCART00N 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I love you & your content, it makes me so happy & its so informative. Please keep it coming!

  • @scuffs5101
    @scuffs5101 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    Lovely video Icky💕Am a Trans Girl and very into fashion as well I 100% agree honestly I think our community sometimes follows stereotypes that’s often cis women don’t even follow I have pass before with baggy jeans and baggy tees “masculine clothes “ clothes don’t have gender everyone is allowed to wear what you want you definitely could wear the short skirts and tight shirts but it’s also fun to experiment and see what works best for you have fun layering and messing with portions don’t be trap into only wearing short skirt and tight shirts

  • @taraskywalker453
    @taraskywalker453 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    You counter rude public shaming with grace and mindful patient good will.
    Stay classy Ashley & thx for the great advice

  • @serenokneringer6413
    @serenokneringer6413 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video is amazing! Love the fashion content! I would love to see more like this especially how you go about buying new clothes and what you look for ^^

  • @zynosgd9982
    @zynosgd9982 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'm a cis man, but I feel like this applies to basically everyone: it's all pieces of fabric and things. Wear what makes you feel comfortable and happy. I have a guy friend who wears skirts and a girl friend who wears cargo pants and metal band shirts. They both have a very cool aesthetic that fits them very well and they love wearing these types of clothes.

  • @marib.364
    @marib.364 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    i’m 20 and very insecure about my body as a short girl with curves. i always feel my body is too “inappropriate” looking but any measures i take to cover up my breasts and look more masculine don’t really fit. i like being feminine, but it bothers me after constantly feeling like if i do, it’s inherently sexual. your videos are very positive and make me feel confident in myself. i’m cis so im probs not your target audience, but i like that you seem to understand fashion and that it’s not one size fits all.

    • @cowbanana
      @cowbanana 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      omg honey ur body isn't inappropriate 😭 i hate how the media portrays it as being sexual for having that body type. having large boobs/curves are something u can't control and shouldn't have to be camouflaged like it's a bad thing,, wishing u the best of luck finding a style of fashion u like ♥♥

    • @christopherwiseman1267
      @christopherwiseman1267 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      agreed!@@cowbanana

  • @mackman6006
    @mackman6006 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i was skeptical of the power of 2 3rds i trough that you just had some cute outfits then at the end when you added the hoodie to the outfit (that i wasnt fond of) and it became 1000% cuter my mind was blown i shall never doubt your wisdom again

  • @gasolineandwine
    @gasolineandwine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for these videos! Your youtube content has been super enjoyable, and this one helped me get some doubts out of my mind when it comes to how I dress 💙

  • @groglas
    @groglas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Hearing you speak about fashion theory and outfit creation was super interesting, please do more of these videos! :3

  • @BlogSnob
    @BlogSnob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is so interesting. The rule of thirds is often discussed in photography, but I didn’t know it applied to fashion like this.

  • @Sp0okion3
    @Sp0okion3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    if she starts a clothing brand I am going to jump with joy :3

  • @Zoetical
    @Zoetical 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is certainly super useful. Understanding the 2/3 rule is interesting in explaining why I like some of my outfits despite feeling less fem, personally I'm much more fond of a V-neckline than a scoop but that's me. I think colour also plays such an important role, going full monotone can really hinder an outfit and a splash of colour can completely change it, I'd be interested to see how for example a white bodystocking with the black skirt would look.
    Also I'd been wondering where you got that long denim skirt from as its amazing, now knowing and seeing MM6 prices just makes me more sad....girl got expensive taste

  • @ClaireWebster986
    @ClaireWebster986 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a great video! I'd love to see more fashion tips. I'm still building up my wardrobe, so this is helpful.

  • @Moochel
    @Moochel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    Icky please make more of these fashion vids 🎉 I'm trans too and I've always loved your outfits!

  • @muddymudkip15
    @muddymudkip15 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Much prefer the positivity of this video over the critical-ness of the other mentioned. People should definitely be able to wear what they like, and they most certainly shouldn’t have their sense of style belittled by others, regardless of what the intent may have been.
    Anyway, great video, as always!

  • @skybennett320
    @skybennett320 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Please keep doing these fashion videos Ashley Ive followed you through f1in and don't tell them but I think you're my favourite now ❤❤ thank you so muchhh

  • @m00zic
    @m00zic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is the best mtf advice ive seen because the steps are concrete and specific. The 2/3 rule is great, a lot of the videos I've seen focus on body shape and have billions of outfit ideas and don't include the important part, self expression

  • @matthewspencer4926
    @matthewspencer4926 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i’m just starting my transition and this is really helpful. thank you so much!

    • @antigenderideologies
      @antigenderideologies 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What "transition" have you "started"? What other things can you magically "transition" to and from like in a fairy-tale?
      If you can "change" your immutable factual biological gender, then can we magically "transition" other immutable factual parts about us like our species, race, skin colour, etc? The fact people think we can "transition" gender, is utterly ridiculous!
      You can't change your gender. It's an immutable biological fact which has nothing to do with feelings. Any attempts to do so only ruins the body for no reason, and is like trying to run from your own two feet. All it does is make you a liar!
      Seek proper psychological help and learn to accept your biological sex, rather than playing dress-ups, remaining a slave to a mental illness, and lying about who you are!

    • @joewhos3542
      @joewhos3542 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@antigenderideologiesWhy did you feel the need to write such a long comment about someone enjoying their life in the way they want to enjoy it?

    • @furrettehpokemon1583
      @furrettehpokemon1583 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@antigenderideologies cope

    • @livvy94
      @livvy94 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You got this!!!

    • @antigenderideologies
      @antigenderideologies 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joewhos3542 Why do people feel the need to affirm mental illnesses, lies, and repulsive gender ideologies?

  • @BrandiDreamhouse
    @BrandiDreamhouse 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any content you make is amazing it’s truly been a huge help in my life. Not just for the advice but your personality is addicting lol😂

  • @bunnette9453
    @bunnette9453 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolutely in love with the whole 'oversized top with a skirt look'! It suits you so well!!

  • @chillwave8809
    @chillwave8809 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your outfit choices are really lovely, everyone should have that freedom.

  • @TheKSH991
    @TheKSH991 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Idk about the whole “dress your age” thing, I agree obviously a 25 year old shouldn’t dress like a 5 year old but like if a 40 or 35 year old woman wants to dress relatively young (i.e. crop tops, short skirts, stuff like that) she shouldn’t be shamed for it.

    • @irisinmars
      @irisinmars 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      real

  • @ZoeMyJesus
    @ZoeMyJesus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, Ashley. I've just started transitioning and I've felt kind of torn between liking a lot of clothes that I have already, but also feeling as if I need to wear more feminine things because that's what I "should" do. Your insights and theory were very helpful and made me feel a lot more comfortable. I mean, also a wake-up call in that I have a lot of personal work to do before I'm where I want to be and I can't just slap cool clothes on me and pray it works. This video was thoughtful, concise and informative. Thank you so much.

  • @ScarletxP
    @ScarletxP 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone almost 2 years into hrt but still struggling with clothing as a whole or even presenting myself socially outside my room, your insight gave me a lot of confidence, thank you.

  • @livliveart
    @livliveart 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I'm a Texan trans girl who started HRT this week!! Thank you for this video, it's so helpful ❤

  • @ashlynelmdra9799
    @ashlynelmdra9799 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I really enjoyed this as a trans woman. I still go for more femme clothing but understanding and knowing more would be amazing as I struggle with clothing choices. Please do more! All of the insights

  • @jpegcrust
    @jpegcrust 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I LOVE FASHION THIS RULESRULESRULes lowkey didnt know abt the 2/3 rule,, i always thought abt it like in drawing where u have one big shape one little shape and one miniscule shape,, one thing that i love to focus on is like where things crop like high rise stuff is suuuuper fem and making shirts look tinier is like so girl moment, i like making like a clean arc from my elbow creases across my belly and its sauce epic,, turns even my boyish fits more tomboy:) eep eep i love talking abt fashion… to the internet void u go words…ashley u r a inspiration❤❤❤

  • @thisnameisfake5657
    @thisnameisfake5657 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really interested in the mention of u starting a brand. Will definitely be looking into that when you talk about it more!

  • @CustomColoring
    @CustomColoring 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I'm sorry that other creator was being so weird. As we know, people who neg others typically are seeking comfort for something missing in themselves.
    You look amazing, and I really enjoy your demeanor in your videos. I cannot wait to check out your clothing brand!

  • @EdenHolder
    @EdenHolder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    pls make more of these they're great, i love all your videos :)

  • @emacgggaming9732
    @emacgggaming9732 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LETS GO ICKY FASHION TIPS
    ALSO ICKY CLOTHING PERFECT TIMING AS IM JUST NOW GETTING FEMME CLOTHES

  • @livvy94
    @livvy94 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One thing I'd like advice on is horizontal stripes vs. vertical stripes! My mother says that I shouldn't wear a horizontal stripe top because they "make me look big" but I don't agree, I think it emphasizes my chest (and she probably doesn't like that)

    • @livvy94
      @livvy94 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh!! Another thing! I have a 38 inch waist to instep (that's 96 centimeters, I think?), and that makes it impossible to find jeans in my size. My mom says I need to buy men's jeans because of this - she's just as tall and she's worn men's jeans for years and years. It's all so invalidating and I don't know what to tell her. I realy want to buy more skirts and avoid pants altogether but she'll never let me.

  • @quinn2002
    @quinn2002 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    it’s so funny that a someone who dress like a 2016 femboy wants to give advice to a trans girl who passes perfectly and looks like a fashionable woman

  • @NoirEater
    @NoirEater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yea but that skirt looks so good! You looks so pretty!

  • @shana6128
    @shana6128 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, and I surprisingly found that my daily outfit fits into the two-third rule perfectly. Actually it is exactly like that in 9:50, but instead of a hoodie I'm wearing a borwn blazer. Love it!

  • @Sabiriyuuu
    @Sabiriyuuu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love all of your content! Your tiktok and now your youtube is helping me through my own transition! Thank you for the pdf info you have for free! Thank you fo so damn much. 💗💖💝

  • @Nicolatteaur
    @Nicolatteaur 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for this video! Very informative and educational. I really didn't know about that rule of thirds, only a rule about "one piece baggie, one piece tight/no baggie" and "no stripes + stamp"
    So much us trans girls don't know yet!

  • @SquidneySketches
    @SquidneySketches 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone whos considered a Cis woman with pretty much the same body type as you this was such a comforting watch! I'm pretty detatched from my gender now, but I use to be very insecure in how I'm percieved. I kinda learned end of the day to dress how I want and rather than focusing on looking or passing as a certain gender, I just focus on what things I like to emphasize!
    I think if I was younger and less secure than I am now I would have felt so dishearted by the refered video? I'm happy you discussed more proportioning rather than "you cant wear this because you have this body type" and you felt more like you were building the viewer up rather than tearing someone down for their choices that make them feel good

  • @erock676
    @erock676 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So true bestie! In defense of inverse 2/3 silhouettes, I like loose fitting crop tops/jackets and high-waisted skirts which still de-emphasizes shoulders but accentuates your legs and make the 2/3 line above your belly button! You're so right though, I don't know what she was thinking trying to put someone else down for their fashion for content! So uncool

  • @TechHead12_
    @TechHead12_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    As a cis man, I found this video very interesting. I am your exact opposite on my interest in fashion. So I would have never thought of this 2/3 thing. That said, I have to agree with you completely. I've liked all of your outfits and I find them much nicer to look at compared to the suggested outfit.

  • @c4ss1133
    @c4ss1133 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    YES PLZ MORE FASHION!! being trans mtf also, its great to have some more insight into what is perceived more femme and what isnt

  • @mantistoboggan1503
    @mantistoboggan1503 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do more videos like this! I'm super dumb when it comes to clothes and you're really good at explaining this stuff

  • @AislingBelle
    @AislingBelle 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ash looks super cute in BOTH outfits on the vid cover tho 😭 I wish I could make just any outfit look that good!

  • @estr0genesis359
    @estr0genesis359 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    that other girl is giving amazon basics, your style is immaculate

  • @2bornot2b99
    @2bornot2b99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thank you for this, wearing what expresses you. Earlier in my transition it felt odd hearing other creators saying you have to wear this and that to pass but wearing what I think is cute is best for me. Thank you Icky for these vids I love them, they make me feel better about myself rather than discourage much love to you and f1nn

  • @mildrose898
    @mildrose898 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your outfits! I also use that theory! And it looks mega cute!

  • @rotti9871
    @rotti9871 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so excited for your fashion line ❤

  • @Taribunny
    @Taribunny 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Can't wait to hear more about your brand 🥰

  • @crownoffyre894
    @crownoffyre894 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Oooh nano, I think everyone has their outfit that work better for them, nano likes to be comfortable and look cute so the body suits work for her but looking at Ashley's collection she like variety, which is awesome because alot of people end up cycling through their same few outfit, and I get that too because girl clothes expensive

  • @katpocalypsemeow4554
    @katpocalypsemeow4554 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love your videos, very usefull! Also I loved when you wore F1nn's shirt with the skirt on stream. Was such a cute outfit =^.^=

  • @steven10757
    @steven10757 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this outfit creation video. It was so so entertaining and helpful

  • @lafemmedevastation
    @lafemmedevastation 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Women, trans women, can simply wear whatever they're able to *confidently* pull off at whatever age. For some, their confidence has no bearing on passing, for others like myself: I'm only going to dress to whatever I believe makes me feel good _and_ doesn't draw 'much' attention, at whatever respectable weight and appearance that I can achieve at my age. I'm not gonna show off my belly button piercing if I don't feel like I can 'sell' it with wherever my weight is atm, but that's literally *just me* and other women / trans women can pull this off with a larger waistline because of _where_ their confidence comes from and how resilient it is to the social gaze.

  • @teddysquid103
    @teddysquid103 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    def agree - bought an outfit recently based on the long skirt one you wore and I was really happy with how it looked on me :) ty from a fellow trans gal

  • @Darkness-qp8bc
    @Darkness-qp8bc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video really shows your passion for fashion, which is also visible in your day to day clothes, the first time I seen you, I immediately notice your style, and if it were a face to face situation, I'd probably compliment it, as its clear how much attention and care you put into what you wear

  • @keptthekisses
    @keptthekisses 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It sounds like their suggestions (Nano's?) come from some generalized style guidelines that leaned on old hourglass-prioritizing body shape/ proportion theory? Kudos for trying to build on their commmentary by expanding perspectives on fashion (styling?) without it being a negative response.
    In general I think a lot of people, especially trans folks, but most of the public in general are patching together incomplete understandings of various style guides.
    Like the most common ones I've seen online being body shape and Kibbe (and somwtumes Kitchener but it's pretty elusive?), will have specific guidelines for *certain body proportions* that supposedly can optimize or "balance" appearances but it's definitely not one-size (or shape) fits all.
    Like a tip I had seen was how wider straps can work better for de-emphasizing broad shoulders, and when it comes to the oversized wear even that sometimes works better for some folks than others too though the general 1/3rds proportionality still holds up regardless of what system for helping appearances.

  • @nvoo123
    @nvoo123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "is it less feminine? who cares."

  • @AvonaStar
    @AvonaStar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I've never been a fan of the original creator, and how you dress is obviously fine. So keep it up, of course. :)

    • @carolyn9133
      @carolyn9133 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great to see you here. I have always loved your pink bulge video. I am only on TH-cam, no social sites. I just wanted to thank you for that video.

    • @AvonaStar
      @AvonaStar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@carolyn9133 I'm glad you loved it! I wanted to give back to the trans/cd community but got burnt out on making videos, so it'll have to do. :)

  • @herohalv4543
    @herohalv4543 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    hehehehe, I always go with a different strategy of wearing so many crazy colors and patterns that people skip over paying attention to my face entirely (crazy hawaiian shirts my beloved)

  • @Spades-
    @Spades- 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad you're making a clothing brand! Ik you'll do great with it!

  • @Kitty-Marks
    @Kitty-Marks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Was just recommended your channel on r/MtF. I was looking for trans TH-camrs whom do not do transphobe videos. I just don't need all that hate.
    Your channel looks great! Could use an introduction at the beginning of your videos but I'm excited to see how this channel grows.

  • @capriciousstudent
    @capriciousstudent 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Can’t wait to buy Icky Fashion!!! 🤩

    • @Lex_chats
      @Lex_chats 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Based on the things, icky has said about fashion companies. It will probably be sustainably sourced and fair trade. Which is always a bonus as well