Awesome stuff .. Im looking forward to the end result .ive two 1200s that i need to restore . Hopefully this will be released by then and i can put it in one of my video's :) ... Keep up the great work :)
Już blisko końca nareszcie :) Dużo więcej pracy z tym było niż się z początku wydawało, ale efekt moim zdaniem jest fajny. Przed wypuszczeniem na świat kilka sztuk będzie wysłanych najpierw do naszych zaufanych testerów, pewnie wyjdą jeszcze jakieś drobne poprawki, ale generalnie nie powinno to już zająć wiele czasu.
Hi, I have got some questiions. 1. According to manual the HDMI output is always at 60 Hz for compatibiltay reasons with most monitors. Since most games and demos on European Amigas run at 50 Hz, side-scrolling aninmation will surely have stuttering motion, as someone told me in forum. Can you make it possible to enable HDMI output at 50 Hz either by jumper setting or software? 2. I own an A1200 in big box tower kit by Mikronik. Because of my Zorro-slot expansion board I do not have access to the A1200 mainboard anymore. So, can I combine a WarpedVision (A3K/4K) for Zorro 2 with a Warp 1260 card? (For my upper Z2 slot a video-slot adapter has been installed to use graphics cards, so it should also work with your WarpedVision card) What would you say? 3. Your quickstart PDF manual of your Warp1260 says on page 6: It has to be connected with INT2 signal on A1200 mainbaord I have never heard of INT2. a) What is the INT2 signal on my A1200 mainboard and where it is located? b) Does the Warp1260 package include a cable to connect to INT2 ? c) Does connectiing the Warp 1260 to INT2 require soldering or modification? d) Is INT2 connection always necessary to make a Warp 1260 work or is it only needed with a specific revision of A1200 mainboard? Except your PDF manual no installation guide or review anywhere talks about INT2 and and your Warp1260. I hope you can help. Thanks.
1. Yes, 60Hz was chosen, because of compatibility reasons. Not all modern displays support 50Hz (e.g. my Panasonic TV). In many cases stuttering effect is not very noticeable. For some people this is completely show stopper, other doesn't notice it at all, so it largely depends on personal preferences. 50Hz PAL direct mode option will be added to the firmware at some point. I can't tell when exactly, because it's a side project, and we have a lot of other work, but it will be added. 2. WarpedVision for A3K/4K is not a Zorro card. It is placed in Video Expansion slot which A3K and A4K has. AFAIK there is no Video slot on A1200 Zorro adapters. 3. Page 6 is showing Warp560 model for A500. A1200 has INT2 on the expansion slot, so you don't have to connect anything to the mainboard.
Fantastic piece of hardware, but one question, if you have any adapter on top of the Gayle chip, I think your card will not fit for a few millimeters with this adapter (for example with a reset fix gayle adapter or with the elbox fastata gayle adapter) , or the same is my optical effect in the video and fits well with most of these adapters that I mentioned. Have you tried mounting your scandoubler with one of these adapters already installed to see if it hits the bottom side of your card?
No, I don't have any Gayle attachments on hand, but you're right. I don't think that fitting this scan doubler and any Gayle adapter will be possible. We'll think about it and maybe reorganise PCB in the next revision to make more space on Gayle side 👍
@@sellen052 Thanks for the response Sellen. It would be good if you did a redesign of the PCB because there are many people who have adapters on their Gayle chip and your magnificent scandoubler (by far the best on the market from what I see it can offer) does not fit with the adapters for Gayle by a few millimeters. In fact, practically all Gayle adapters have the same measurement on their Lisa chip side, so it would be good for you to take this into account. Even so, I congratulate you for this great card that I will buy as soon as you release that "new redesign) :). Of course I am awaiting you put the Warp1260 on sale, the money is burning my pocket hahaha
Two questions. 1. Xtreme gfx mode (1280×1024) hasn't been presented. Is it supported? 2. If I understand well, any Amiga mode is scaled to 1280×1024 then sent to monitor. It means, if I wanted to get sharp (display matrix aligned) pixels, I need old 17/19" monitor (1280×1024 native) with HDMI (???) and I'm limited to 1280×512 or - if square pixel is additional requirement - 640×512. Am I right?
1. Xtreme gfx modes are usable, but not fully supported. They work, but it is not possible to get all picture lines visible (e.g. 1 left column and 1 bottom line is not visible on 1280x1024 mode). This is because Xtreme modes are quite a hacks. For example picture data is sent even in blank intervals and even during sync signals. Some old displays could work on such signal due to it's analog nature, some had maybe some minor distortion, etc. Building digital sampler however, is really pain in such case. Name "xtreme" also says something :) 2. If you really want perfect sharpness, you can set 1:1 mode in the display (many displays have such option), and use modes like 640x512. However, perfect sharpness doesn't look nice at all. It feels like emulator or something. Games and demos look ugly, because often used dithering doesn't smooth anything if you have perfectly sharp picture. So, from my experience, nicest results you'll get using upscaled picture, set 4:3 aspect on the display and use bilinear upscale in the scandoubler. Picture is perfectly stable, no analog noise, still sharp, but soften enough to just look right and nice. BTW if you looking for best picture in workbench or many os-friendly apps, best solution is to use RTG graphics card. Then you'll get higher resolutions, color depth and much higher speed. Using this scandoubler connected with warp turbo, you can easily switch between RTG and Amiga modes automatically, and have Amiga conveniently connected to the display with just one HDMI cable.
@@sellen052 Nice one m8. Thanks! I see the pictures in the end now :) Is this meant to be a teaser, demo or is the scandoubler going to be released soon? :)
Awesome stuff .. Im looking forward to the end result .ive two 1200s that i need to restore . Hopefully this will be released by then and i can put it in one of my video's :) ... Keep up the great work :)
Testing is going good so far, so it should be released soon 👍
@@sellen052 Good stuff ... :)
Wow ❤
Czekam na finalny produkt jak pewnie spora grupa innych osób :)
Już blisko końca nareszcie :) Dużo więcej pracy z tym było niż się z początku wydawało, ale efekt moim zdaniem jest fajny. Przed wypuszczeniem na świat kilka sztuk będzie wysłanych najpierw do naszych zaufanych testerów, pewnie wyjdą jeszcze jakieś drobne poprawki, ale generalnie nie powinno to już zająć wiele czasu.
Interesting piece of hardware!
Hé Benny!
@@tekk9995hi Tekk
Hi, I have got some questiions.
1. According to manual the HDMI output is always at 60 Hz for compatibiltay reasons with most monitors. Since most games and demos on European Amigas run at 50 Hz, side-scrolling aninmation will surely have stuttering motion, as someone told me in forum.
Can you make it possible to enable HDMI output at 50 Hz either by jumper setting or software?
2. I own an A1200 in big box tower kit by Mikronik. Because of my Zorro-slot expansion board I do not have access to the A1200 mainboard anymore.
So, can I combine a WarpedVision (A3K/4K) for Zorro 2 with a Warp 1260 card?
(For my upper Z2 slot a video-slot adapter has been installed to use graphics cards,
so it should also work with your WarpedVision card) What would you say?
3. Your quickstart PDF manual of your Warp1260 says on page 6: It has to be connected with INT2 signal on A1200 mainbaord I have never heard of INT2.
a) What is the INT2 signal on my A1200 mainboard and where it is located?
b) Does the Warp1260 package include a cable to connect to INT2 ?
c) Does connectiing the Warp 1260 to INT2 require soldering or modification?
d) Is INT2 connection always necessary to make a Warp 1260 work or is it only needed with a
specific revision of A1200 mainboard?
Except your PDF manual no installation guide or review anywhere talks about INT2 and and your Warp1260.
I hope you can help. Thanks.
1. Yes, 60Hz was chosen, because of compatibility reasons. Not all modern displays support 50Hz (e.g. my Panasonic TV). In many cases stuttering effect is not very noticeable. For some people this is completely show stopper, other doesn't notice it at all, so it largely depends on personal preferences. 50Hz PAL direct mode option will be added to the firmware at some point. I can't tell when exactly, because it's a side project, and we have a lot of other work, but it will be added.
2. WarpedVision for A3K/4K is not a Zorro card. It is placed in Video Expansion slot which A3K and A4K has. AFAIK there is no Video slot on A1200 Zorro adapters.
3. Page 6 is showing Warp560 model for A500. A1200 has INT2 on the expansion slot, so you don't have to connect anything to the mainboard.
Testowałbym demoscenę na tym 😁
Translation : I would test the demoscene on this
Does it have a scaler built in to auto-fit the screen to the monitor?
Fantastic piece of hardware, but one question, if you have any adapter on top of the Gayle chip, I think your card will not fit for a few millimeters with this adapter (for example with a reset fix gayle adapter or with the elbox fastata gayle adapter) , or the same is my optical effect in the video and fits well with most of these adapters that I mentioned. Have you tried mounting your scandoubler with one of these adapters already installed to see if it hits the bottom side of your card?
No, I don't have any Gayle attachments on hand, but you're right. I don't think that fitting this scan doubler and any Gayle adapter will be possible. We'll think about it and maybe reorganise PCB in the next revision to make more space on Gayle side 👍
@@sellen052 Thanks for the response Sellen. It would be good if you did a redesign of the PCB because there are many people who have adapters on their Gayle chip and your magnificent scandoubler (by far the best on the market from what I see it can offer) does not fit with the adapters for Gayle by a few millimeters. In fact, practically all Gayle adapters have the same measurement on their Lisa chip side, so it would be good for you to take this into account. Even so, I congratulate you for this great card that I will buy as soon as you release that "new redesign) :). Of course I am awaiting you put the Warp1260 on sale, the money is burning my pocket hahaha
Two questions. 1. Xtreme gfx mode (1280×1024) hasn't been presented. Is it supported? 2. If I understand well, any Amiga mode is scaled to 1280×1024 then sent to monitor. It means, if I wanted to get sharp (display matrix aligned) pixels, I need old 17/19" monitor (1280×1024 native) with HDMI (???) and I'm limited to 1280×512 or - if square pixel is additional requirement - 640×512. Am I right?
1. Xtreme gfx modes are usable, but not fully supported. They work, but it is not possible to get all picture lines visible (e.g. 1 left column and 1 bottom line is not visible on 1280x1024 mode). This is because Xtreme modes are quite a hacks. For example picture data is sent even in blank intervals and even during sync signals. Some old displays could work on such signal due to it's analog nature, some had maybe some minor distortion, etc. Building digital sampler however, is really pain in such case. Name "xtreme" also says something :)
2. If you really want perfect sharpness, you can set 1:1 mode in the display (many displays have such option), and use modes like 640x512. However, perfect sharpness doesn't look nice at all. It feels like emulator or something. Games and demos look ugly, because often used dithering doesn't smooth anything if you have perfectly sharp picture. So, from my experience, nicest results you'll get using upscaled picture, set 4:3 aspect on the display and use bilinear upscale in the scandoubler. Picture is perfectly stable, no analog noise, still sharp, but soften enough to just look right and nice. BTW if you looking for best picture in workbench or many os-friendly apps, best solution is to use RTG graphics card. Then you'll get higher resolutions, color depth and much higher speed. Using this scandoubler connected with warp turbo, you can easily switch between RTG and Amiga modes automatically, and have Amiga conveniently connected to the display with just one HDMI cable.
Nice. Is this the output of the scandoubler?
yes it's recorded directly from scandoubler.
@@sellen052 Nice one m8. Thanks! I see the pictures in the end now :) Is this meant to be a teaser, demo or is the scandoubler going to be released soon? :)
It is still couple of things to be done, but it's pretty close to finish. It will be released then.
@@sellen052 Thanks! Great stuff!