I started with my 9’6” 3 Wt a week ago after watching your introduction to Euro nymphing series. Caught fish immediately, doubling or tripling my catch rate. Had trouble detecting takes and lost a good percentage of hook ups because my rod was too fast. Went and bought a mid priced rod, Reddington Hydrogen 11 ft 3 wt. Got my leader dialed in as well, 10 lb Maxima. Now I feel everything and haven’t lost a fish, yet. Thanks a lot.
Came back and revisited this. I’ve spent the whole month of July learning about nymphing. At first it was really rough. And ended up using a bounce rig for a while. After I got my 11ft 3wt nymphing rod I really dug into it and like others have said tripled my catch rate at least! I’m sure I lose a lot because I don’t really see the takes but I certainly feel them! I have a cheap reel with weight forward floating line and rio’s 30 foot nymphing add on
lol I totally forgot I watched or commented on this video. Gave up euro fishing for split shot rigs for a long time. Winter is good for euro nymphing for sure!
Thanks for this video, I have been euro nymphing for 3-4 years, my first rod was one you mentioned. It was the Orvis Clearwater 10’ 3 weight that I purchased from a local dealer here in PA where I live. I didn’t enjoy fishing with the rod personally, but others may find it ok. I have recently traded that Orvis for a Cortland Nymph 10’6” in 3 weight, which has been a real improvement for me and made my euro nymph experience so much more fun and rewarding. I am catching more fish and seem to have a better sense of what is happening under the water. I must add that others may have a different experience because in my opinion this all is very much a product of personal preference and technique. Hope this is helpful and tight lines!
Good feedback. I definitely think everyone goes off their own experiences. I've only used the original Cortland Competition and only once but I've heard really good things about the new MK II from some reliable resources! One of them actually likes it better than the Sage ESN if you can believe it!
Great video - again :) I studied a lot before starting Euro nymphing 18 months ago. I landed on a Moonshine Euro nymph rod 3wt because I liked a saltwater rod I bought from them. Great quality and sensitivity and comes with 2 tips and a nice sturdy carrying case. Not breaking the bank : Moonshine Rod Company The Epiphany 3wt - 10'6" $ 299. I spent $100 on my reel from Red's. Still using that set up and having fun every time. I am still learning about feeling the bottom but it's much easier with heavy flies and when a fish strikes, there is no doubt. I would recommend doing own tying. There is a learning phase but just start simple with larger hooks first (pheasant tail, midge, Squirmy Worm). I stopped by a local fly fish shop and ask for basic supply to start tying few patterns. I would def encourage first timer to do this and not buy a bunch of supplies that you might not need. Then go gradually and invest in more tool as needed. A tying wise is essential - plenty of budget option that work well (I paid $70 for mine) and $50 for a box of basic tools. I am really looking forward your upcoming Euro Nymphing Advanced Techniques - Fly Selection. I have tied most of the one you have videos on as well as others from Devin Olsen and Fish Fly Food. I have the tendency to use the one that I found beautiful but I am not a fish....Would be great to learn if some pattern work well in tandem (dropper / point). What about identical fly but different weight/color. In any case, the Squirmy Worm you do is a killer ! I have made lot's of color combo with different dubbing but my favorite is rainbow scud dub with pink wormy and silver or dark tungsten bead.
I pretty much love everything you said and totally agree! 🙂 I learned to tie flies when I was fairly young... but I really got into it when I wanted to do something that I couldn't get from a store... I wanted to be able to make my flies exactly as I wanted them! I'll never buy a euro nymph now... I just tie what I want. And i agree... tying nymphs does not need to be complex! Keep it simple... the fish love those simple patterns! Simple and effective is my thing!!! Also... I seriously almost tied the exact pink squirmy you mentioned with the rainbow scud dubbing... Literally had all of the materials laid out but then got distracted and didn't come back to it... I'm totally doing it now 🙂
Great info and tips thanks! Really like the visuals, even the stock photos. They help me follow along with the verbal descriptions. I tend to remember them more easily
I have a 115 dollar max catch 10ft 6in. 3wt. I love it. I also have their 40 dollar reel…it’s a pain in the ass to use. The line slips through the line guards and ends up getting wrapped up on the outside of the reel, and gets jammed into spaces in the reel “structure” and gets stuck up…the rod through is amazing!
Yeah... a lot of people have the same problem with reels when using a mono rig. I'm having that problem a bit too and should probably look for a different reel specifically for it.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompanythe rod *was amazing…it broke every month (7-9 trips/every 60hours fishing) until the end of its 1 year warranty. Echo carbon XL is good enough for me now :)
One tip for that reel section, i think most important thing in reel is that reel frame is closed so that thin line wont get stuck. And second tip, you can basicly use whole spool of bi- or tri-color tippet material as your main line. Those nymph lines are basicly made for competition where you cannot use level mono as your ”flyline”. Third, you should definetly check EUROpean rod manufacturers ;)
Thanks to the subscriber for the question. I’m in that exact position. I plan to rig my 9’ 5 Wt to get into this technique with an eye on upgrading if I really take to it. I’ve watched your series and plan to rewatch. Looks like you are going to cover a lot more so no specific recommendations. Well, maybe a bit more detail in how to manage a mono rig while on the water. It looks like it would handle and feel a bit different from the typical floating fly lines we’re currently used to using. Anyway, please continue on this euro nymphing series. It’s great. Thanks!
I use a Epiphany 2wt 10’4” from the Moonshine Company. Really love the euro nymph rod. Even come with an extra tip section and comes with a no fault lifetime warranty.
I'm fairly new to Euro nymphing, a couple of years under my belt now. My fly fishing partners got me into it and I'm enjoying it. My first Euro rod was a cheap 3 wt. 10' 6", Chinese made rod I purchased for under $100 to see if I would like this type of fly fishing. It worked but definitely was not that great of a rod, hard to cast and wasn't sensitive enough. I've since purchased a much better rod from a company called Moonshine Rod Company. I purchased the 4 piece, Epiphany 3wt - 10'6". I love the the rod as it cast well is very sensitive and is a beautiful rod. They have a lifetime warranty and you get two tips with the purchase. I paid just under $300 for my rod and I have since bought another rod from them for my regular fly fishing, still water, etc. Keep up the great videos as I also tie flies and like a lot of your patterns you have shown.
Excellent video. Great angle on euro Nymphing. A couple of tips for absolute first timers who might be reluctant and not want to spend a lot to trial it out. To have an initial first go, I’d recommend the Scientific Anglers Absolute Euro leader. White nylon line integrated with sighter and tippet ring. No knots. Just unwrap and ready to fish. Just loop to loop on your existing set up and off you go! Use your regular 4x mono tippet to start. Why 4x? Your gonna snag a lot, and I’ve found you just have a little more strength to get flies out. Finer fluorocarbon sinks quicker, has less micro drag….but I’ve found this is only true at the $ end. It isn’t so important when beginning. Learning to tuck cast properly will sort most situations. Use barbless hooks for the same reason, and learn how to de-snag ( get your rod tip 180 degrees behind the hook entry direction and gently lift/flick). Otherwise burn $$$ on flies initially. I wish someone had shown me this as a beginner. Similarly one fly rig to begin with. It’s just kinder on fly loss and easier to cast. You will change all this to mono-rig, custom leader,finer tippets, fluro, double tags for flies fished at multiple depths, soon enough. Probably when you invest in a true euro rod etc. You can also reverse an old WF line and use the long fine end for euro. Best of luck. Persist with euro, it’s a heap of fun to learn! Great stuff Bryan. 300% recommend white dogs euro series. Full of essential practical stuff!
Thanks for this advice, I've been thinking about having a go at nymphing and all of these suggestions were what I was thinking of doing as it all seemed pretty logical as a starting point but it's easy to think you need x,y and z just to give it a go.
Another very informative video! After I watched the first couple of your euro nymphIng series I really decided to try it. Had an old fly reel with fair drag with backing and 4wt line and ordered the cheapest 4wt 10.5’ rod ($96.00). Splurged on leader/sighter material as recommended in your set-up series! Used 30 Ft of 65 lb braid line(already had) instead of euro line! Put it all together as my learning/assessment rig! Purchased a $42 fly tying vice/tool kit and ordered the materials specified for your Sexy Stonefly bomb(~$45). After a few really ugly stonefly,
A few trips out, loosing lots of flys, began to catch fish! Love the technique and the video series has got me to the point that I’m ready to invest in the real and better equipment. I’m also tying all your flys and love them!
I’ve been using my Redington strike pro 2, and I love it!!! It’s a 10 ft 3wt, and I have it paired with their TILT reel. With the rod costing 350, and the reel costing 250, it ran me 600 total
Wonderful, practical info for fly fishers taking the step into euro nymphing. Any take on fly-fishing where the elitist, high dollar talk is eliminated so youngsters don't feel excluded from our sport is good stuff to me. Thanks Bryan! --Paul from Gloversville. Fished the K today, but no luck, very sunny. All the best!
Hi Paul! I recorded this video a couple weeks ago and then fished for a bit. New water on the K for me and got a few good browns (17" - 18" or so). I was really happy. Hope you are well man!
Wild Waters out of Rochester NY has a euro nymph rod I have used when I first started euro nymphing and I have stuck with it. They also offer lifetime warranty at a $65 price point. They only offer it in a 3 wt 10ft rod. Even friends of mine who have much much more expensive setups have tried this rod of mine and really like it. Also, customer service is amazing and they answer quickly and through text message or phone call.
I've Euro Nymphed a 10ft 8wt for Steelhead just for the needed backbone to get a fish that powerful in, and I was still able to cast fairly small beadheads very accurately with a mono rig. I also did it once on a 11ft Steelhead float rod when the 8wt was in for repair and it worked like a charm. I mostly use a 10ft 2wt for trout fishing, but I'm convinced you can throw a mono rig on any rod with enough reach and you'll do alright. 'Feeling' your fly is useful some of the time, but a whole lot can be accomplished with good presentation and reading of the sighter. 'Euro Nymph fly line' is really only necessary if you're constraining yourself to competition rules, which is absolutely silly for anyone who isn't actually planning to fish in competitions. I had a 3wt dry fly line that I originally tied my mono rig to after trying a Euro Fly Line and being wildly disappointed when there was even a foot out of the reel. Turns my 2wt 10ft throws that 3wt line and a 15ft dry fly leader like a dream when the need or desire arises. The rest of the time I usually run more than enough straight 14lb mono to be able to launch streamers or indicator rigs across big pools.
I use a, 11' 7wt switch rod for steelhead and an 11' 8wt switch rod for salmon and basically euro nymph for them with a single fly. I have the same accuracy as I do with my 10'6" 3wt for trout!
Try throwing a 3wt or 4wt line on the 8wt for salmon and steelhead. Or use a running line. You can roll cast up to a 5mm bead. The fly line is light enough not to pull down through the guides. I do a 4” tapered leader with sighter to tippet ring. 20-14-12-8, the last 2 being hi vis. Your more versatile on the water and the thicker line is easier to control in the cold weather.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompanywow, what a great info! Because I'm looking to buy a 10' #6 stillhead rod for casting streamers for larger trout on my local stream but was also deeply interested in euro fishing. Since I never don't take more then one with me when going fishing, I was wondering if I could just switch leaders and convert that 10ft #6wt rod with the help of a SA Euro Nymph Kit (same thing as the Rio shorty kit) and continue to euro Nymph with that kit? So, regular 10ft 6wt rod + Rio shorty kit. If I understood well, it's doable? 🙂
@@stellamillenium it is doable. But I have since moved to the Diamondback 10’10” 6wt which is made specifically to euro nymph for steelhead and what a difference!!! Way lighter, way more power, way more sensitivity and way more tippet protection! I HIGHLY recommend it. However, I have not tried to throw streamers with it.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany oh, that's nice! But I'm more into buying one "universal" rod (ok, we all know such thing doesn't exist 🙂), but as close as it can be. I'm specifically looking for Vision still hero 9,9ft 6wt, hoping I could use it for big dries, indicator nymph fishing, some streamers and over the top, to easily convert it to a euro rig as needed. The rod itself weights 100grams. Not that heavy I guess..
Great video! I also love the videos on reading water and breaking down which areas are likely to hold fish. That's a skill I'm hoping to hone this season.
That is the most fun part of euro nymphing for me. I love breaking down water and finding fish. That is what turns a good fisherman into a great fisherman! I was forced to learn it when steelhead fishing and was so proud of myself when I started to find fish that everyone else skipped over or missed! I do plan on more of that this year. I need to get out and fish and film. My personal life has been so busy I haven't fished in a month! That is terrible for someone who runs a TH-cam channel on fishing... I'm missing some of the best fishing of the year right now.
I tend to wander far from the car, lots of bushwacking, etc. So I only want to carry one rod most of the time. I use a 10 ft 3 wt Orvis Clearwater. I really like it. I would say it is not perhaps a "pure" Euro rod, super long and super light. But it is a super all purpose rod. It works very well as a Euro rod on the streams of modest size I tend to fish, but can easily cast a dry fly or even a small streamer. I have even landed a 3lb small mouth bass with the thing. I keep a 3wt floating line rigged with a 3x tapered leader to a tippet ring on the reel. I simply tie a 30-40 ft piece of mono to that tapered leader and another tippet ring on the free end, then tippet, usually 5x. If I want to cast a streamer I just wind the mono onto a foam spool, and snip it off at the tippet ring. Now I am all set up to tie on a foot of tippet and streamer (or dry fly). To switch back, just snip off the streamer, tie on the mono rig, reel it onto the spool. Today I planned on focusing on streamer fishing so took my 9 ft 5 wt. There was some water I thought might be better Euro nymphing. So I just tied on the mono rig and fished the rod I had. Caught a mess of rainbow trout. Worked pretty well for the small stream I was in. So, if you are interested in giving Euro nymphing a try and don't want to shell out cash, and you have something like a typical 9 ft 5 wt, just tie on 30 ft of mono (could just be some heavy tippet you already have), some sighter, and have at it.
Hi Bryan I just bought the Primal 10 4 w and after watching 👀 you for some time I decided to try it out on the Tongariro in the Central North Island 🏝. Well OMG 😲 what a wonderful way to fly 🪰 fish. Keep it up and tight lines. Craig.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Yeah since watching 👀 u and hooking small trout I end up spending 25 minutes and hook and drop a rainbow of near 5 pnd and then hook and landed a beautiful hen 5.5. The fly 🪰 rods are so strong at the top aye.
I started with an echo carbon xl and loved it. Unfortunately it was stolen with the rest of my gear and I’m trying to replace it. I would buy another, but with even a little experience, I want to go longer. Finding a budget friendly 11’ is tricky.
Yeah... I recommend the Diamondback 10'10" rods. Great length, great sensitivity, great backbone and great tippet protection. They're a little more than the lower budget rods but worth every penny in my opinion. They're way less $ than other top end rods but perform better way better than the $1000 rods in my experience.
I really got a lot out of your show there so much I just learned about I'm so happy I watch your show cause I'm retiring soon and going to be doing a lot of fishing and fly tieing have a great day
Another flytastic video Bryan! You have become my internet euro fishing mentor! Every video you put out has made me a far better nympher. Im not sure if i missed the video.. but i think a video on fishing etiquette for the younger generation would be a great vid for the next generation of euro nymphers.
I pieced it out for a cheap euro set last year, now I have my second kid and still haven’t had a chance to use it lol awesome videos, any videos on the basics are great
Congrats on your kids! I know the feeling! My kids are older now (16 and 14) but I still struggle to get out because they're so busy with all of their activities. The time on the water will come but that means my kids will be gone and we'll be lonely without them! I take advantage of any time I get but at the same time I'm enjoying having my kids around too! It's all a balance.. 🙂
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany it’s definitely a balance, my kids are 2.5 and 8 days old ha my wife is kind enough to let me get out during the rut with my bow 😂
Going to try this for the first time next weekend. Great to tell me how to set up my 10’ TFO 4 wt to try the Euro Nymphing before buying the gear specific to this style of fly fishing. Will let you know how it goes in a couple of weeks.
Awesome! Good luck! If you were going to start with a non-euro rod... I think you have a the perfect one in the 10' 4wt! Definitely let me know how it goes!
As always you give us such a thorough review of what your topic is. I give you a ton of credit on how you research and explain what you recommend. And literally saving us subscribers a bunch of money. I just tried looking for a euro rod and I’m amazed at their prices. So, you’re not only helping us with this new method but trying to point us in the right direction as in a decent rod and line , etc. I have to agree with you on the reel. The reel on a fly rod isn’t always just there to hold fly line. As I’ve been told from day one when buying my first fly rod combo. Especially if you are maybe in a river where there are bigger than average trout like say 16-20”’s. They will wear you out trying to palm the reel. Let out line as they scream downstream. Even a rainbow in the 17 “ range will get that line ripping. A really smooth drag really matters. Great points as always Bryan! Keep up your educational videos , I’ve been flyfishing for a few years now and I love all your input and still learning as I go. There is not a leveling off where a fly fisherman knows it all. Thank you again White Dog. Tightlines!
Heck yeah... a 17 inch bow can go crazy and run some drag! I've had to use my drag a lot and I'm always glad it is smooth! Thanks for the support over the years Jim!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany well. I lied. I know alittle about fly reels. Orvis ‘ bar stock Access sucks compared to my Lamson Velocity smooth drag comparison. I was so sold on G.Loomis Venture fly reels too until I bought a 7/8 Lamson Velocity. Big difference when fighting big steelheads. So, I agree totally in yes. , the reel does matter. And the rod also. You can cheap out in line but you’ll pay that price as well down the line. Literally. Love your content. Take care Bryan , and as always. , tightlines.
I just wanted to add more to my original feedback/experience in Euro nymphing gears. I purchased this 3 weeks ago and it's been GAME changer in my nymph tying quality. Give it a try. I absolutely love it. EARYA Magnifying Glass with Light and Stand, 5X Real Glass Lens 8-Diopter Magnifying Lamp. AMZ. $30
Thanks for sharing! I'll look into that! I use my studio lights for filming when I tie... It's pretty funny to have these 2 big box lights aiming down on my little fly vice... but I can see so well with them 😂😂😂 I wish I had a picture to show you. Oh and I ended up getting a scale off Amazon that seems to work really well for weighing my flies!
the 5X magnification is great - my flies are so much more detailed, and I do realize how very little dubbing I am now using compared to before. Amazing.
Here in Romania(eastern europe), we call it short nymphing, and we typically use 11 feet rod. If we need more distance, we use an ultra light nymphing line
Been watching your vid's for about a year now and glad I found it; very informative and you make me miss my old home waters in CNY. More vid's on W. Canada if possible [tough to get good water levels when I get a chance to get back up there] Best of luck and keep the vid's coming Thanks Chuck S.
I get to fish the WC about once a year these days but it was where I learned to fly fish and will always be sacred water to me! So many memories on that river ❤❤❤
Nice! Good points and good entry points for ppl who don’t wanna go all in yet ! Fenwick Aetos 10 ft 3 wt is what I got for my first euro rod. I got it for 125 dollars on Amazon a while ago and it works well!
Two rod makers to check out on a budget (imo) are Moonshine Epiphany and the Tain SST. I own and use both extensively. Best bang for your buck. Thanks Brian, Happy Holidays!
I bought an LL Bean euro rod and so far I like it a lot. What sold me is that i can return it in a year if i don't like it. This is my first year euro nymphing. All of the videos I've watch were great and helpful. Maybe on some of the videos you could show us up close of the flies you are using. Thanks
I have a Syndicate 10ft. 2 wt. love this rod. Very sensitive, with a strong backbone. They are now priced around $350.00, but bought mine 3 years ago when they a little Less $$. Paul Ingrassia
I am trying to get back into fly fishing more this summer after doing it on and off for 2ish years. I think it would definitely be interesting to learn how to euro nymph, this video convinced me to check out some different sources on it!
I would love to see some more fly fishing videos from you 🙂 Either way I enjoy what you do, that you get out and have fun and respect the fish! "Thank you for biting" 🙂
Another good rod is from The Wade Rod Company, The Nymphster, it has an extra section to make it 10 or 11 foot, plus they have a payment plan for those on a budget. Great video as always, besides the rod I have found that getting a good leader formula makes a big difference on the water.
I have realized that I have been Euro nymphing for quite some time without realizing it! On a New Zealand home braided water with a consistently high flow, (Up to 150 cumecs) I have been fishing with tenkara rods and fluoro lines. The rods are 13 and 15 ft in length and the fly in order to get to the desired depth are weighted with 4.4 or 5 mm tungsten beads aided with a Swann shot if deep and turbulent water dictates. My setup costs less than $100 NZ per rod and line and works just fine.
I started with an echo shadow ii 10ft 3wt that's under $300 and I paired it with a orvis clearwater ii. It is perfectly balanced, no exaggeration right at the top of the cork. It was a perfect starter combo!
Probably too late but I love your videos and the snap back looks great. You have provided such an in-depth look into euro nymphing. I can’t wait to upgrade from dry flying.
I believe the Strike is the Redington Hydrogen replacement (which is my backup rod). It was definitely good for the money. I've held the strike and it felt similar to my Hydrogen. And I think 10'6" 3wt is a great length and weight!
I got over to the Hoosick over this past weekend. The water was blue,clear and low, looked like the Caribean! I was able to put some euro nymphing to the test and caught a decent rainbow!
There are very few euro rods out there specifically made for steelhead... however there are a few. Joe Goodspeed made one for T&T for a while and now he is at Diamondback and put a lot of effort into the design of the Diamondback Ideal Nymph 10'10" 6wt that he made specifically for steelhead. I just got mine this winter and although I haven't steelhead fished with it yet.. I certainly will be. There will 100% be a "How to Euro Nymph for Steelhead" video coming this year! I'm working with Diamondback on it and we'll be giving away a rod on the channel when we hit 25000 subscribers. I'm very excited for that. But first I need to get out on the water get some steelhead action with it!
Excellent video, your reference to your earlier videos is very relevant. Just recently been on a trip to the Tongariro River in New Zealand and tried the euro nymphing out, not very successful though. I have had great success on this river with wet lining, so euro nymphing is going to be a challenge. I am using a Traper GST 3 weight 10 foot 6 rod, combined with the Traper GST reel. I think I will need to revisit your earlier videos in order to improve on my own skills. Thank you for a very informative series.
Definitely watch the euro nymphing series and hopefully that helps you get dialed in. I'll add that rod to the list for people to consider... I have not heard of that one before. Thanks!
Thanks i currently have a syndicate 10' 3 weight was under 300 love it. But after seeing my friend break a 1000 dollar rod im looking for a backup rod. So far ive lost count how many trout ive caught thanks to your tips. And ive spent maybe $600 for my initial setup and everything to get started.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Syndicate P2 rods are fantastic euro rods. And you're right, they were early in the game and focused exclusively on euro rods. If you give them a call, they will share the reel weights they recommend to perfectly balance specific models of their rods. At their price point, you'd be hard pressed to find a better rod.
Hi it nice to see shows like this to learn from I'm getting started in fly tieing and fishing and taking my grands fishing and tieing fly's I watch all the shows all the time what is a good fishing rod thank you Arleigh Freeborn
Nice tips. I wanted to give this a try so I got a cheap real and some euro line. This was phase 2 for me because I already had made a small investment in supplies to build some leaders. Not previously having a reel or fly line of any kind this was the most expensive part. I also think the guy at the fly shop got me something good, but was more than I wanted to spend on a line. Anyways, I do not have a proper rod. I actually put this setup on my steelhead rod for gear fishing because it is 9 ft 6 inches and had a good length even though it is a bit stiff for this. But I caught my first fish Euro style last night. It was a lot of fun. I think my next steps will be to get a proper rod when I can. Thanks for all the great tips.
Cool... I think most lower end rods (especially in the 11' length) are going to feel a little heavier. My Redington feel significantly heavier than the ESN. And I've felt other rods like the Sage Sense, Cortland Competition and they feel a little heavier like that.
I think the most important thing is to learn how a good drift should feel. You might consider the drop shot method of adding weight below the flies as well. that way if something gets hung up it'll be the bottom weight and not your fly! I know the heartache of losing flies I've tied lol. Once you start to feel confident about how the drift should feel you can experiment with different weight flies and just use the flies as your weight.
AH... You need to check out my Euro Nymphing Series. Volume 5 goes into detail on it and I show several situations on camera and go slow motion and everything with strike detection. Here is Volume 5 but I recommend starting with Volume 1 and working your way through it. It is VERY detailed. Vol 5 th-cam.com/video/IB4jjbaHGsU/w-d-xo.html
Ah man, I found it almost trait after I commented. Really good, but scary how subtle it all looks. Hoping this coming season in the UK I can give it a go and get some feels on it. Only pinch is I only have one rod and reel. A short 8ft #3. The streams I fish are super tight fishing, overhead trees etc. Often I am in a bush trying to cast to my intended spot. Great video by the way. Really detailed and informative. @@WhiteDogTrailCompany 👍👍
I use a Maxon NX3 Euro 10'6" 3 weight. Price point is around $269. I paired it with a Sage ESN reel. This is my 1st Euro rig setup and I'm hooked! I learned alot from your vids. Keep up the good work! Thank you!
If you use a regular fly line it is HIGHLY recommended to use a long mono rig and keep the fly line on the reel and not out the rod tip or in the guides.
I have a moonshine vesper. Spendier than these but I really like it. I would love to see you try one out and get your opinion since you are very experienced.
A bit late to the party but i was able to get a nymphing rod for around 70$ from a polish company called mikado… the rod was a 10ft 4wt it was lightweight, sensitive and had an impressively strong butt section comparable to a 7wt… idk my standards might be low since i havent used any premium rods but hey its cheap, it does the job well and it catches fish
Ah.... that's a good one that I have not covered in full. I appreciate that suggestion and I will try to work that in! For me it breaks down to 3 knots. - Clinch Knot - (connection to fly or connection to tippet ring) - Double Uni Knot (Uni-Uni) - Connecting leader sections together - Triple Surgeon's Knot - Creating dropper tags
Great video on euro nymphing on a budget! I picked up a Shadow II used, with an extension kit. Maybe you could explore using a heavy braid instead of mono or a dedicated euro fly line? I use a braid line I think it's 65 lb test. You can get a spool in many colors and inexpensive like on Ebay. It's light, supple, sensitive, and no memory. Thanks for all your videos! I enjoy them all!!
Great suggestions! I think the breaking down water videos would be helpful for that and I plan more of those. Also I think adjusting the weight of the flies and really showing people how heavy I tied my flies would be a big thing! Thanks for the suggestion!!!
Great video, info is spot on. The catch and the hatch web site offers euro nymphs on sale for great rates several times per year but you get a lot of emails from them wanting you to buy other of their products, tried the cabelas czn tip broke about 3 hrs in to first day. They gave my money back at the store I purchased it from, offered another rod but the other one kinda left a bad feeling about them, review’s were good just a freak deal. Keep up your good work it is most appreciated!!!
Thanks for the suggestion on flies and the rod! My brother had the original Cortland Competition rod and broke the tip on his first trip. They sent him a new section and he was back in action pretty quickly.
I have a dragonfly kamloops 4wt euro nymphing rod I bought as a starter it was around $200 and found it to be an exceptionally good starter rod very sensitive and really was able to take a beating worth the money
Nice informative video for people starting Euro Nymphing. I started 1 month ago and using my current 5 wt, 9 ft Sage rod on medium sized rivers. Steep learning curve so you video series has helped. If I’m going to Euro Nymph on same rivers, what Weight Euro Nymph rod I should consider? Not clear on weight translation from conventional to Euro Nymphing Rod? Thanks.
If you're going to get a Euro Nymphing rod I would recommend a 3wt. I would also recommend a 10' 6" rod as they're more universal and you can reach further than just a 10' rod. The 3wt is only the weight of the tip of the rod so there should still be plenty of backbone in a 3wt but read reviews and look around at what people say about the rods. A medium action rod is ideal for euro nymphing... soft tip that bends down to the middle of the rod and then a stiff butt section. Good luck with your euro nymphing!!!
Lets see a real budget video, $50 Budget! Fly rod, reel, line and flies from a garage sale or flea market. Keep the videos coming, great work. Dean from Wales.
WOW! You watched it all in one afternoon? That's quite the commitment! Thanks for joining us! I know people who have broken that (and other) rods as well. My own lower quality rod broke on a guide trip by a client. My expensive rod (Sage ESN) that gets used ALL the time has never had an issue in probably 4 years of using it.
As for the fly line, do you think reversing a weight forward floating fly line by tying it to the backing line would give you a relatively thinner level line to work with?
I would like to see a video on choosing the best rod for euro nymphing and a rod that will allow me to fish upstream with north country spiders and occasionally dry fly
I have an entire euro nymphing series where I cover all of that. Check out the videos in that series. The playlist is here. th-cam.com/play/PLuLwf7ym7i7bre38GWqk0pXZggydq3Z5m.html
great video ! i have a trip planned for WV over thanksgiving week i'm going to give it a try .i have a 9.5 " rod but its a 6 weight will i brake off to many with this? thanks
Thanks! Just start with what you have. It's a little heavy and might not be nice to your light tippet but if it has a soft tip that can help. Not sure if it is a fast action or slow action fly rod. Slow action would be better for protecting your tippet. But start with what you have and see how it goes. If you break off on anything try going heavier on the tippet side to compensate. You can get away with heavier tippet sometimes depending on the fish and water conditions. Heavier flies may help with a heavier setup as well. Good luck!
If you were to recommend 4 or 5 flies for a beginning euro-nymph fisherman, what would they be? I've set up a Mono rig with 20# Maxima Chameleon, 4 red/yellow Amnesia sighter, tippet ring, and then my 2 fly tippet. Now I need to select my flies to tie. I have a 10', 4w rod. I just got in an order of several tungsten bead sizes and 12, 14, 16 and 18 hooks. Thanks.
I would recommend this video where I show the flies I use. th-cam.com/video/aOD-KmAvFe4/w-d-xo.html I have videos of how to tie each fly on the channel... See this playlist for how to tie them. th-cam.com/play/PLuLwf7ym7i7ZKJSrh7WP-pftvhmwIytMK.html If I had to pick 4... I would do Sexi Stonefly, Pink Squirmy, Walt's Worm, Peacock Ice Dub
The series is EXCELLENT so far. What I would like to see is if I don't have the cash to buy a euro nymph rod, how would you suggest I use my 8'6 or 9' rod to euro nymph? What types of gear/fly lines will I need to achieve this? I just don't have the scratch right now to afford anything more than say a fly line and leader, but I've got tons of flies that should serve the purpose.
Yeah... I think a lot of people are in similar situations. The technique is the same as I describe in my series but you'll be limited on range. Maybe focus on smaller waters with more defined runs that you can target. I would forget the fly line altogether and just go with the mono rig like I describe in this video.
I would say use what you have available to you. It won't perform like a euro specific rod but that 9'6" 4wt is going to be a good all around rod for a lot of techniques! I like that it is a little longer than your typical fly rod so that will help with the reach you need when euro nymphing. if you find you like nymphing, then maybe you look to get a euro specific rod down the road! Best of luck!!!
To be honest, I've always created my own leaders and never used a manufactured leader. I probably can't offer an opinion other than to say I know people who buy their leaders instead of making them.
How about a video on hybrid methods between indicator nymphing and euro nymphing? Euro nymphing with an indicator or indicator nymphing with colored sighter on your leader or any combination of those techniques all have distinct uses and advantages
Depends on budget. I’m in love with Diamondback Rods. Just ordered my 10’10” 2wt. If that’s too steep there are lots of options suggested in the comments that won’t break the budget.
@@Philkoehler4 How about a 10’10” 2wt? That’s the Diamondback and it comes with VERY high recommendations from anglers. Mine just arrived today! Diamondback has blown me away with the rods I’ve fished and I expect this to be the same.
My dropper really depends on a bunch of things! First thing I'm doing is looking at the bugs in the water by flipping rocks (if i don't already know the water well). I'll imitate what I see typically. If I'm fishing faster and deeper water I'll go with something a little bigger and heavier. For high water like that my favorite is my sexi stone as the point fly and a squirmy as the dropper. Deadly combo. Caddis nymphs are good for those conditions because they stand out a little better with their green color. Also nymphs with hot spots can be good in those conditions. Normal conditions I'm probably doing a standard nymph like my Peackock Ice Dub or a Walts Worm. In lower/clear water conditions my dropper is likely to be a perdigon. But honestly I change things up regularly to see what is working well for that river and the particular conditions I'm experiencing.
There have a been a few people suggesting that in the comments and I've heard of that a few other times as well. I have never done it but it seems reasonable for a fly line replacement. You'll still want your long (fairly stiff) leader to help deliver your flies though.
The problem with a mono rig on many current fly reels is that they don't have a closed frame. Some manufacturers are catching on and producing them again, but the mono rig presents problems with the line escaping out the side of the reel through the gap between the frame and the spool.
This rod is priced at around $289, but I recommend the Echo Shadow II. Besides the 10' rod, they sell a "competition" kit that can turn the rod into a 10'6" or 11" rod and it includes weights for the reel seat to help balance the rod and reel.
Could you use the Amnesia as your main line for a mono rig or must you use Chameleon. I tie my regular tapered leader butt sections with Amnesia, and they work fine. Thanks - great video.
Sure can... Amnesia is a bit softer material than Maxima. Maxima is a stiffer mono, so people like the stiffness to aid in casting. But I've seen people use Amnesia for the mainline and sighter.
I started with my 9’6” 3 Wt a week ago after watching your introduction to Euro nymphing series. Caught fish immediately, doubling or tripling my catch rate. Had trouble detecting takes and lost a good percentage of hook ups because my rod was too fast. Went and bought a mid priced rod, Reddington Hydrogen 11 ft 3 wt. Got my leader dialed in as well, 10 lb Maxima. Now I feel everything and haven’t lost a fish, yet. Thanks a lot.
That's awesome! The Redington Hydrogen 11' 3wt is my backup rod! I lost the top 5 inches on a guide trip but it still feels good!
Came back and revisited this. I’ve spent the whole month of July learning about nymphing. At first it was really rough. And ended up using a bounce rig for a while. After I got my 11ft 3wt nymphing rod I really dug into it and like others have said tripled my catch rate at least! I’m sure I lose a lot because I don’t really see the takes but I certainly feel them! I have a cheap reel with weight forward floating line and rio’s 30 foot nymphing add on
That's awesome! I'm glad to hear you're coming along and enjoying euro nymphing!
lol I totally forgot I watched or commented on this video. Gave up euro fishing for split shot rigs for a long time. Winter is good for euro nymphing for sure!
Thanks for this video, I have been euro nymphing for 3-4 years, my first rod was one you mentioned. It was the Orvis Clearwater 10’ 3 weight that I purchased from a local dealer here in PA where I live. I didn’t enjoy fishing with the rod personally, but others may find it ok. I have recently traded that Orvis for a Cortland Nymph 10’6” in 3 weight, which has been a real improvement for me and made my euro nymph experience so much more fun and rewarding. I am catching more fish and seem to have a better sense of what is happening under the water. I must add that others may have a different experience because in my opinion this all is very much a product of personal preference and technique. Hope this is helpful and tight lines!
Good feedback. I definitely think everyone goes off their own experiences. I've only used the original Cortland Competition and only once but I've heard really good things about the new MK II from some reliable resources! One of them actually likes it better than the Sage ESN if you can believe it!
A good rod that I just tried and used was a very cheap 10ft 2 wt of 3 wt the max catch in touch euro rod it’s only a 100 dollars too
Great video - again :)
I studied a lot before starting Euro nymphing 18 months ago. I landed on a Moonshine Euro nymph rod 3wt because I liked a saltwater rod I bought from them. Great quality and sensitivity and comes with 2 tips and a nice sturdy carrying case. Not breaking the bank : Moonshine Rod Company The Epiphany 3wt - 10'6" $ 299. I spent $100 on my reel from Red's. Still using that set up and having fun every time. I am still learning about feeling the bottom but it's much easier with heavy flies and when a fish strikes, there is no doubt.
I would recommend doing own tying. There is a learning phase but just start simple with larger hooks first (pheasant tail, midge, Squirmy Worm). I stopped by a local fly fish shop and ask for basic supply to start tying few patterns. I would def encourage first timer to do this and not buy a bunch of supplies that you might not need. Then go gradually and invest in more tool as needed. A tying wise is essential - plenty of budget option that work well (I paid $70 for mine) and $50 for a box of basic tools.
I am really looking forward your upcoming Euro Nymphing Advanced Techniques - Fly Selection. I have tied most of the one you have videos on as well as others from Devin Olsen and Fish Fly Food. I have the tendency to use the one that I found beautiful but I am not a fish....Would be great to learn if some pattern work well in tandem (dropper / point). What about identical fly but different weight/color. In any case, the Squirmy Worm you do is a killer ! I have made lot's of color combo with different dubbing but my favorite is rainbow scud dub with pink wormy and silver or dark tungsten bead.
I pretty much love everything you said and totally agree! 🙂 I learned to tie flies when I was fairly young... but I really got into it when I wanted to do something that I couldn't get from a store... I wanted to be able to make my flies exactly as I wanted them! I'll never buy a euro nymph now... I just tie what I want. And i agree... tying nymphs does not need to be complex! Keep it simple... the fish love those simple patterns! Simple and effective is my thing!!! Also... I seriously almost tied the exact pink squirmy you mentioned with the rainbow scud dubbing... Literally had all of the materials laid out but then got distracted and didn't come back to it... I'm totally doing it now 🙂
Great info and tips thanks! Really like the visuals, even the stock photos. They help me follow along with the verbal descriptions. I tend to remember them more easily
Thanks!
I have a 115 dollar max catch 10ft 6in. 3wt. I love it. I also have their 40 dollar reel…it’s a pain in the ass to use. The line slips through the line guards and ends up getting wrapped up on the outside of the reel, and gets jammed into spaces in the reel “structure” and gets stuck up…the rod through is amazing!
Yeah... a lot of people have the same problem with reels when using a mono rig. I'm having that problem a bit too and should probably look for a different reel specifically for it.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompanythe rod *was amazing…it broke every month (7-9 trips/every 60hours fishing) until the end of its 1 year warranty. Echo carbon XL is good enough for me now :)
One tip for that reel section, i think most important thing in reel is that reel frame is closed so that thin line wont get stuck.
And second tip, you can basicly use whole spool of bi- or tri-color tippet material as your main line. Those nymph lines are basicly made for competition where you cannot use level mono as your ”flyline”.
Third, you should definetly check EUROpean rod manufacturers ;)
Thanks to the subscriber for the question. I’m in that exact position. I plan to rig my 9’ 5 Wt to get into this technique with an eye on upgrading if I really take to it. I’ve watched your series and plan to rewatch. Looks like you are going to cover a lot more so no specific recommendations. Well, maybe a bit more detail in how to manage a mono rig while on the water. It looks like it would handle and feel a bit different from the typical floating fly lines we’re currently used to using. Anyway, please continue on this euro nymphing series. It’s great. Thanks!
Awesome! thank you so much and good luck with your setup!
I use a Epiphany 2wt 10’4” from the Moonshine Company. Really love the euro nymph rod. Even come with an extra tip section and comes with a no fault lifetime warranty.
Thanks! I almost put the Moonshine Epiphany in the video actually.
I'm fairly new to Euro nymphing, a couple of years under my belt now. My fly fishing partners got me into it and I'm enjoying it. My first Euro rod was a cheap 3 wt. 10' 6", Chinese made rod I purchased for under $100 to see if I would like this type of fly fishing. It worked but definitely was not that great of a rod, hard to cast and wasn't sensitive enough. I've since purchased a much better rod from a company called Moonshine Rod Company. I purchased the 4 piece, Epiphany 3wt - 10'6". I love the the rod as it cast well is very sensitive and is a beautiful rod. They have a lifetime warranty and you get two tips with the purchase. I paid just under $300 for my rod and I have since bought another rod from them for my regular fly fishing, still water, etc. Keep up the great videos as I also tie flies and like a lot of your patterns you have shown.
I think you went about it the right way. Start cheap and learn and move your way up! Thanks for following the channel!
Excellent video. Great angle on euro Nymphing.
A couple of tips for absolute first timers who might be reluctant and not want to spend a lot to trial it out. To have an initial first go, I’d recommend the Scientific Anglers Absolute Euro leader. White nylon line integrated with sighter and tippet ring. No knots. Just unwrap and ready to fish. Just loop to loop on your existing set up and off you go!
Use your regular 4x mono tippet to start. Why 4x? Your gonna snag a lot, and I’ve found you just have a little more strength to get flies out. Finer fluorocarbon sinks quicker, has less micro drag….but I’ve found this is only true at the $ end. It isn’t so important when beginning. Learning to tuck cast properly will sort most situations.
Use barbless hooks for the same reason, and learn how to de-snag ( get your rod tip 180 degrees behind the hook entry direction and gently lift/flick). Otherwise burn $$$ on flies initially. I wish someone had shown me this as a beginner.
Similarly one fly rig to begin with. It’s just kinder on fly loss and easier to cast.
You will change all this to mono-rig, custom leader,finer tippets, fluro, double tags for flies fished at multiple depths, soon enough. Probably when you invest in a true euro rod etc.
You can also reverse an old WF line and use the long fine end for euro.
Best of luck. Persist with euro, it’s a heap of fun to learn!
Great stuff Bryan. 300% recommend white dogs euro series. Full of essential practical stuff!
Great suggestions! Thanks for taking the time to write it out for everyone! And thanks for following along!!!
Thanks for this advice, I've been thinking about having a go at nymphing and all of these suggestions were what I was thinking of doing as it all seemed pretty logical as a starting point but it's easy to think you need x,y and z just to give it a go.
Another very informative video!
After I watched the first couple of your euro nymphIng series I really decided to try it. Had an old fly reel with fair drag with backing and 4wt line and ordered the cheapest 4wt 10.5’ rod ($96.00). Splurged on leader/sighter material as recommended in your set-up series! Used 30 Ft of 65 lb braid line(already had) instead of euro line! Put it all together as my learning/assessment rig!
Purchased a $42 fly tying vice/tool kit and ordered the materials specified for your Sexy Stonefly bomb(~$45). After a few really ugly stonefly,
A few trips out, loosing lots of flys, began to catch fish! Love the technique and the video series has got me to the point that I’m ready to invest in the real and better equipment. I’m also tying all your flys and love them!
That's so awesome! I'm happy to hear you're having fun and success with it!
I’ve been using my Redington strike pro 2, and I love it!!! It’s a 10 ft 3wt, and I have it paired with their TILT reel. With the rod costing 350, and the reel costing 250, it ran me 600 total
Yeah... that's an average setup cost most of the time.... Glad you're enjoying it!
Wonderful, practical info for fly fishers taking the step into euro nymphing. Any take on fly-fishing where the elitist, high dollar talk is eliminated so youngsters don't feel excluded from our sport is good stuff to me. Thanks Bryan! --Paul from Gloversville. Fished the K today, but no luck, very sunny. All the best!
Hi Paul! I recorded this video a couple weeks ago and then fished for a bit. New water on the K for me and got a few good browns (17" - 18" or so). I was really happy. Hope you are well man!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Fantastic! Nice chatting.
As always, the most informative information on TH-cam relating to Euro nymphing.
Thanks Jason! 🙏🙂
If you're on an ultra low budget, Maxcatch makes a serviceable euro rod. I have one as a backup and it's actually fairly sensitive, just heavy.
Wild Waters out of Rochester NY has a euro nymph rod I have used when I first started euro nymphing and I have stuck with it. They also offer lifetime warranty at a $65 price point. They only offer it in a 3 wt 10ft rod. Even friends of mine who have much much more expensive setups have tried this rod of mine and really like it. Also, customer service is amazing and they answer quickly and through text message or phone call.
Oh Wow! That's great! I have not heard of them before. Thank you for sharing!
Another great budget type rod is the Moonshine Epiphany 3wt 10’6”. It’s been a great rod for learning Euro Nymphing.
Great videos! Keep it up!
Thanks! That is a popular one! I almost included it in the video too. I'm adding it to the recommended list! Thanks!
I agree. I’ve had go success at learning to euro nymph on this rod.
I've Euro Nymphed a 10ft 8wt for Steelhead just for the needed backbone to get a fish that powerful in, and I was still able to cast fairly small beadheads very accurately with a mono rig. I also did it once on a 11ft Steelhead float rod when the 8wt was in for repair and it worked like a charm. I mostly use a 10ft 2wt for trout fishing, but I'm convinced you can throw a mono rig on any rod with enough reach and you'll do alright. 'Feeling' your fly is useful some of the time, but a whole lot can be accomplished with good presentation and reading of the sighter. 'Euro Nymph fly line' is really only necessary if you're constraining yourself to competition rules, which is absolutely silly for anyone who isn't actually planning to fish in competitions. I had a 3wt dry fly line that I originally tied my mono rig to after trying a Euro Fly Line and being wildly disappointed when there was even a foot out of the reel. Turns my 2wt 10ft throws that 3wt line and a 15ft dry fly leader like a dream when the need or desire arises. The rest of the time I usually run more than enough straight 14lb mono to be able to launch streamers or indicator rigs across big pools.
I use a, 11' 7wt switch rod for steelhead and an 11' 8wt switch rod for salmon and basically euro nymph for them with a single fly. I have the same accuracy as I do with my 10'6" 3wt for trout!
Try throwing a 3wt or 4wt line on the 8wt for salmon and steelhead. Or use a running line. You can roll cast up to a 5mm bead. The fly line is light enough not to pull down through the guides. I do a 4” tapered leader with sighter to tippet ring. 20-14-12-8, the last 2 being hi vis. Your more versatile on the water and the thicker line is easier to control in the cold weather.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompanywow, what a great info! Because I'm looking to buy a 10' #6 stillhead rod for casting streamers for larger trout on my local stream but was also deeply interested in euro fishing. Since I never don't take more then one with me when going fishing, I was wondering if I could just switch leaders and convert that 10ft #6wt rod with the help of a SA Euro Nymph Kit (same thing as the Rio shorty kit) and continue to euro Nymph with that kit?
So, regular 10ft 6wt rod + Rio shorty kit. If I understood well, it's doable? 🙂
@@stellamillenium it is doable. But I have since moved to the Diamondback 10’10” 6wt which is made specifically to euro nymph for steelhead and what a difference!!! Way lighter, way more power, way more sensitivity and way more tippet protection! I HIGHLY recommend it. However, I have not tried to throw streamers with it.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany oh, that's nice! But I'm more into buying one "universal" rod (ok, we all know such thing doesn't exist 🙂), but as close as it can be. I'm specifically looking for Vision still hero 9,9ft 6wt, hoping I could use it for big dries, indicator nymph fishing, some streamers and over the top, to easily convert it to a euro rig as needed. The rod itself weights 100grams. Not that heavy I guess..
Always amazing materials!!!!
Thank you for your support and education!!!!
Thank YOU for the support! I appreciate it!
I can't think of any new ideas for you because your videos have everything the euro nymphing fisherman needs...
😊 Thanks!
Great video! Can’t wait to see more fly tying and advanced patterns!👍🏻🇺🇸
I definitely have more coming! I gotta quit the full time job so I can do everything I want! 😂😂😂
Great video! I also love the videos on reading water and breaking down which areas are likely to hold fish. That's a skill I'm hoping to hone this season.
That is the most fun part of euro nymphing for me. I love breaking down water and finding fish. That is what turns a good fisherman into a great fisherman! I was forced to learn it when steelhead fishing and was so proud of myself when I started to find fish that everyone else skipped over or missed! I do plan on more of that this year. I need to get out and fish and film. My personal life has been so busy I haven't fished in a month! That is terrible for someone who runs a TH-cam channel on fishing... I'm missing some of the best fishing of the year right now.
I tend to wander far from the car, lots of bushwacking, etc. So I only want to carry one rod most of the time.
I use a 10 ft 3 wt Orvis Clearwater. I really like it. I would say it is not perhaps a "pure" Euro rod, super long and super light. But it is a super all purpose rod. It works very well as a Euro rod on the streams of modest size I tend to fish, but can easily cast a dry fly or even a small streamer. I have even landed a 3lb small mouth bass with the thing.
I keep a 3wt floating line rigged with a 3x tapered leader to a tippet ring on the reel. I simply tie a 30-40 ft piece of mono to that tapered leader and another tippet ring on the free end, then tippet, usually 5x. If I want to cast a streamer I just wind the mono onto a foam spool, and snip it off at the tippet ring. Now I am all set up to tie on a foot of tippet and streamer (or dry fly). To switch back, just snip off the streamer, tie on the mono rig, reel it onto the spool.
Today I planned on focusing on streamer fishing so took my 9 ft 5 wt. There was some water I thought might be better Euro nymphing. So I just tied on the mono rig and fished the rod I had. Caught a mess of rainbow trout. Worked pretty well for the small stream I was in.
So, if you are interested in giving Euro nymphing a try and don't want to shell out cash, and you have something like a typical 9 ft 5 wt, just tie on 30 ft of mono (could just be some heavy tippet you already have), some sighter, and have at it.
EXACTLY!!! Perfect comment! Thank you!
Hi Bryan I just bought the Primal 10 4 w and after watching 👀 you for some time I decided to try it out on the Tongariro in the Central North Island 🏝.
Well OMG 😲 what a wonderful way to fly 🪰 fish.
Keep it up and tight lines.
Craig.
Craig... That's awesome! I'm glad you're enjoying it!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Yeah since watching 👀 u and hooking small trout I end up spending 25 minutes and hook and drop a rainbow of near 5 pnd and then hook and landed a beautiful hen 5.5.
The fly 🪰 rods are so strong at the top aye.
That's AWESOME!!!! 😀👊
I started with an echo carbon xl and loved it. Unfortunately it was stolen with the rest of my gear and I’m trying to replace it. I would buy another, but with even a little experience, I want to go longer. Finding a budget friendly 11’ is tricky.
Yeah... I recommend the Diamondback 10'10" rods. Great length, great sensitivity, great backbone and great tippet protection. They're a little more than the lower budget rods but worth every penny in my opinion. They're way less $ than other top end rods but perform better way better than the $1000 rods in my experience.
I really got a lot out of your show there so much I just learned about I'm so happy I watch your show cause I'm retiring soon and going to be doing a lot of fishing and fly tieing have a great day
Awesome! I'm glad it was helpful!
Another flytastic video Bryan! You have become my internet euro fishing mentor! Every video you put out has made me a far better nympher. Im not sure if i missed the video.. but i think a video on fishing etiquette for the younger generation would be a great vid for the next generation of euro nymphers.
That's a good suggestion and I've had that request several times before. I think I need to add that into the series. Thank you!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Part of this could be leave no trace as well.
I pieced it out for a cheap euro set last year, now I have my second kid and still haven’t had a chance to use it lol awesome videos, any videos on the basics are great
Congrats on your kids! I know the feeling! My kids are older now (16 and 14) but I still struggle to get out because they're so busy with all of their activities. The time on the water will come but that means my kids will be gone and we'll be lonely without them! I take advantage of any time I get but at the same time I'm enjoying having my kids around too! It's all a balance.. 🙂
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany it’s definitely a balance, my kids are 2.5 and 8 days old ha my wife is kind enough to let me get out during the rut with my bow 😂
Going to try this for the first time next weekend. Great to tell me how to set up my 10’ TFO 4 wt to try the Euro Nymphing before buying the gear specific to this style of fly fishing. Will let you know how it goes in a couple of weeks.
Awesome! Good luck! If you were going to start with a non-euro rod... I think you have a the perfect one in the 10' 4wt! Definitely let me know how it goes!
Thanks for another Great Video, not sure what to add, because your euro Nymphing series was the best , but this video is a great way to get started 👍
Thank You!!! 🙂
Great video for someone who is also looking to try EN without dropping a ton of dough.
Thanks! Glad it was helpful! Hopefully you've found our entire Euro Nymphing series to help you get started?
Bought a moonshine Epiphany 10’3 under 300 works great for me
Thanks! I almost added them to the list in my video.
As always you give us such a thorough review of what your topic is. I give you a ton of credit on how you research and explain what you recommend. And literally saving us subscribers a bunch of money. I just tried looking for a euro rod and I’m amazed at their prices. So, you’re not only helping us with this new method but trying to point us in the right direction as in a decent rod and line , etc. I have to agree with you on the reel. The reel on a fly rod isn’t always just there to hold fly line. As I’ve been told from day one when buying my first fly rod combo. Especially if you are maybe in a river where there are bigger than average trout like say 16-20”’s. They will wear you out trying to palm the reel. Let out line as they scream downstream. Even a rainbow in the 17 “ range will get that line ripping. A really smooth drag really matters. Great points as always Bryan! Keep up your educational videos , I’ve been flyfishing for a few years now and I love all your input and still learning as I go. There is not a leveling off where a fly fisherman knows it all. Thank you again White Dog. Tightlines!
Heck yeah... a 17 inch bow can go crazy and run some drag! I've had to use my drag a lot and I'm always glad it is smooth! Thanks for the support over the years Jim!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany well. I lied. I know alittle about fly reels. Orvis ‘ bar stock Access sucks compared to my Lamson Velocity smooth drag comparison. I was so sold on G.Loomis Venture fly reels too until I bought a 7/8 Lamson Velocity. Big difference when fighting big steelheads. So, I agree totally in yes. , the reel does matter. And the rod also. You can cheap out in line but you’ll pay that price as well down the line. Literally. Love your content. Take care Bryan , and as always. , tightlines.
I just wanted to add more to my original feedback/experience in Euro nymphing gears. I purchased this 3 weeks ago and it's been GAME changer in my nymph tying quality. Give it a try. I absolutely love it. EARYA Magnifying Glass with Light and Stand, 5X Real Glass Lens 8-Diopter Magnifying Lamp. AMZ. $30
Thanks for sharing! I'll look into that! I use my studio lights for filming when I tie... It's pretty funny to have these 2 big box lights aiming down on my little fly vice... but I can see so well with them 😂😂😂 I wish I had a picture to show you. Oh and I ended up getting a scale off Amazon that seems to work really well for weighing my flies!
the 5X magnification is great - my flies are so much more detailed, and I do realize how very little dubbing I am now using compared to before. Amazing.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany I expect you to show how heavy they are in future videos ;)
@@stephanebogen5411 I definitely will!!!
Here in Romania(eastern europe), we call it short nymphing, and we typically use 11 feet rod. If we need more distance, we use an ultra light nymphing line
Been watching your vid's for about a year now and glad I found it; very informative and you make me miss my old home waters in CNY.
More vid's on W. Canada if possible [tough to get good water levels when I get a chance to get back up there]
Best of luck and keep the vid's coming
Thanks
Chuck S.
I get to fish the WC about once a year these days but it was where I learned to fly fish and will always be sacred water to me! So many memories on that river ❤❤❤
Nice! Good points and good entry points for ppl who don’t wanna go all in yet ! Fenwick Aetos 10 ft 3 wt is what I got for my first euro rod. I got it for 125 dollars on Amazon a while ago and it works well!
Oh sweet! I didn't see that one at all! I'll add it to the list! Thanks!
Two rod makers to check out on a budget (imo) are Moonshine Epiphany and the Tain SST. I own and use both extensively. Best bang for your buck. Thanks Brian, Happy Holidays!
Hi Mike! Happy Holidays! I haven heard of Tain before. I'll have to check them out.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Prices have gone up on the Moonshines. Tain is from Ireland
I bought an LL Bean euro rod and so far I like it a lot. What sold me is that i can return it in a year if i don't like it. This is my first year euro nymphing.
All of the videos I've watch were great and helpful. Maybe on some of the videos you could show us up close of the flies you are using. Thanks
Fly Selection is definitely coming!!! That is probably the next in the series.
Love the topic of this video. This is it, the tipping point. Time to try Euro. As far as what I want to see…I want to see the mercy for sale!
Haha... You're converted! 😂😂😂 Good luck and enjoy getting into it!
I have a Syndicate 10ft. 2 wt. love this rod. Very sensitive, with a strong backbone. They are now priced around $350.00, but bought mine 3 years ago when they a little Less $$. Paul Ingrassia
I am trying to get back into fly fishing more this summer after doing it on and off for 2ish years. I think it would definitely be interesting to learn how to euro nymph, this video convinced me to check out some different sources on it!
I would love to see some more fly fishing videos from you 🙂 Either way I enjoy what you do, that you get out and have fun and respect the fish! "Thank you for biting" 🙂
Another good rod is from The Wade Rod Company, The Nymphster, it has an extra section to make it 10 or 11 foot, plus they have a payment plan for those on a budget. Great video as always, besides the rod I have found that getting a good leader formula makes a big difference on the water.
That's great! I was actually not aware of the tip sections and payment plans. That is a great one! Thanks!
I have realized that I have been Euro nymphing for quite some time without realizing it!
On a New Zealand home braided water with a consistently high flow, (Up to 150 cumecs) I have been fishing with tenkara rods and fluoro lines. The rods are 13 and 15 ft in length and the fly in order to get to the desired depth are weighted with 4.4 or 5 mm tungsten beads aided with a Swann shot if deep and turbulent water dictates. My setup costs less than $100 NZ per rod and line and works just fine.
I started with an echo shadow ii 10ft 3wt that's under $300 and I paired it with a orvis clearwater ii. It is perfectly balanced, no exaggeration right at the top of the cork. It was a perfect starter combo!
That sounds perfect! Thanks adding your suggestion. I'm going to compile a list of rod suggestions people make and pin it in a comment at the top!
Probably too late but I love your videos and the snap back looks great. You have provided such an in-depth look into euro nymphing. I can’t wait to upgrade from dry flying.
Thank you! Good luck with Euro Nymphing! I think you'll find it to be a lot of fun!
I have the Redington Strike 10'6" 3wt which is their euro nymphing rod. I am very happy with it so far.
I believe the Strike is the Redington Hydrogen replacement (which is my backup rod). It was definitely good for the money. I've held the strike and it felt similar to my Hydrogen. And I think 10'6" 3wt is a great length and weight!
I got over to the Hoosick over this past weekend. The water was blue,clear and low, looked like the Caribean! I was able to put some euro nymphing to the test and caught a decent rainbow!
Nice! Sounds like the water is in great shape there! Fish it now because by July 1 it'll probably be too warm to fish it.
Do you use a euronymph rod to fish for steelhead? I would like to see some video if that is possible thanks.
There are very few euro rods out there specifically made for steelhead... however there are a few. Joe Goodspeed made one for T&T for a while and now he is at Diamondback and put a lot of effort into the design of the Diamondback Ideal Nymph 10'10" 6wt that he made specifically for steelhead. I just got mine this winter and although I haven't steelhead fished with it yet.. I certainly will be. There will 100% be a "How to Euro Nymph for Steelhead" video coming this year! I'm working with Diamondback on it and we'll be giving away a rod on the channel when we hit 25000 subscribers. I'm very excited for that. But first I need to get out on the water get some steelhead action with it!
Excellent video, your reference to your earlier videos is very relevant. Just recently been on a trip to the Tongariro River in New Zealand and tried the euro nymphing out, not very successful though. I have had great success on this river with wet lining, so euro nymphing is going to be a challenge. I am using a Traper GST 3 weight 10 foot 6 rod, combined with the Traper GST reel. I think I will need to revisit your earlier videos in order to improve on my own skills. Thank you for a very informative series.
Definitely watch the euro nymphing series and hopefully that helps you get dialed in. I'll add that rod to the list for people to consider... I have not heard of that one before. Thanks!
For a sighter one could also use a backing barrel.
Also a steel headers micro barrel swivel could be used in place of a tippet ring.
Yes!!! Agree to both!
Awesome subject and great footage .
Thank you for all you are doing for the sport!
Thank you!!! 🙏
Nice tips
Can we use any mono far mono rigs ?and the mono memory is ok?
The mono we typically use (Maxima Chameleon) is low memory and fairly stiff mono. You may not have the same experience with other mono.
Thanks i currently have a syndicate 10' 3 weight was under 300 love it. But after seeing my friend break a 1000 dollar rod im looking for a backup rod. So far ive lost count how many trout ive caught thanks to your tips. And ive spent maybe $600 for my initial setup and everything to get started.
Thanks for the suggestion. I think Syndicate was on of the early makers of euro rods. I'm glad you're catching fish and the videos are helping!!! 😊
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Syndicate P2 rods are fantastic euro rods. And you're right, they were early in the game and focused exclusively on euro rods. If you give them a call, they will share the reel weights they recommend to perfectly balance specific models of their rods. At their price point, you'd be hard pressed to find a better rod.
@@thornvfx I've never used one but when I was first in the market there were very few Euro Rods available and they were one of the first I heard of.
Hi it nice to see shows like this to learn from I'm getting started in fly tieing and fishing and taking my grands fishing and tieing fly's I watch all the shows all the time what is a good fishing rod thank you Arleigh Freeborn
Just watched this video and scored a Redington strike 3weight 10'6" for 179 on sale. Half off! Can't wait to get it.
I've held that exact rod! At that price you got a great deal! Hope you enjoy it!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany what would be your recommended reel and line setup?
I have tried using a 4 wt fly rod and I got a blue gill on it to
Nice tips. I wanted to give this a try so I got a cheap real and some euro line. This was phase 2 for me because I already had made a small investment in supplies to build some leaders. Not previously having a reel or fly line of any kind this was the most expensive part. I also think the guy at the fly shop got me something good, but was more than I wanted to spend on a line. Anyways, I do not have a proper rod. I actually put this setup on my steelhead rod for gear fishing because it is 9 ft 6 inches and had a good length even though it is a bit stiff for this. But I caught my first fish Euro style last night. It was a lot of fun. I think my next steps will be to get a proper rod when I can. Thanks for all the great tips.
Yeah... I would personally spend the money on the rod and not on a fly line. Rods make a big difference if you can afford them!
Great video, and thanks for putting it together!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Are semi-automatic fly reels helpful ? I think the may be popular in Europe for nymphing?
I have never used one... and to be honest.. I cannot see myself ever using one.
I have had the czn for about 7 years and it’s been a good rod it’s a little heavy but I also have the 4# 11ft hoping to upgrade soon tight lines
Cool... I think most lower end rods (especially in the 11' length) are going to feel a little heavier. My Redington feel significantly heavier than the ESN. And I've felt other rods like the Sage Sense, Cortland Competition and they feel a little heavier like that.
Thank you for sharing your valuable information for a new comer like me. ... a new subscriber.
Thanks for subbing!
Flies are a concern. Can I add a tungsten bead on the tippet to get down without spending a bunch of money tying new flies.
I think the most important thing is to learn how a good drift should feel. You might consider the drop shot method of adding weight below the flies as well. that way if something gets hung up it'll be the bottom weight and not your fly! I know the heartache of losing flies I've tied lol. Once you start to feel confident about how the drift should feel you can experiment with different weight flies and just use the flies as your weight.
I’d love to see some close up shots of what a take/bite looks like. I’m always looking really hard to get a sense of what to look for.
AH... You need to check out my Euro Nymphing Series. Volume 5 goes into detail on it and I show several situations on camera and go slow motion and everything with strike detection. Here is Volume 5 but I recommend starting with Volume 1 and working your way through it. It is VERY detailed. Vol 5 th-cam.com/video/IB4jjbaHGsU/w-d-xo.html
Ah man, I found it almost trait after I commented. Really good, but scary how subtle it all looks. Hoping this coming season in the UK I can give it a go and get some feels on it. Only pinch is I only have one rod and reel. A short 8ft #3. The streams I fish are super tight fishing, overhead trees etc. Often I am in a bush trying to cast to my intended spot. Great video by the way. Really detailed and informative. @@WhiteDogTrailCompany 👍👍
I use a Maxon NX3 Euro 10'6" 3 weight. Price point is around $269. I paired it with a Sage ESN reel. This is my 1st Euro rig setup and I'm hooked!
I learned alot from your vids. Keep up the good work! Thank you!
Thanks for sharing your rod suggestion! And thanks for following the channel!
Can you euro nymph even with float line on your everyday reel
If you use a regular fly line it is HIGHLY recommended to use a long mono rig and keep the fly line on the reel and not out the rod tip or in the guides.
I have a moonshine vesper. Spendier than these but I really like it. I would love to see you try one out and get your opinion since you are very experienced.
I wish I could get my hands on more rods to try them out too!
A bit late to the party but i was able to get a nymphing rod for around 70$ from a polish company called mikado… the rod was a 10ft 4wt it was lightweight, sensitive and had an impressively strong butt section comparable to a 7wt… idk my standards might be low since i havent used any premium rods but hey its cheap, it does the job well and it catches fish
Thanks for these helpful videos. Could I encourage you to create close up videos on all the fly fishing knots that one must know.
Ah.... that's a good one that I have not covered in full. I appreciate that suggestion and I will try to work that in! For me it breaks down to 3 knots.
- Clinch Knot - (connection to fly or connection to tippet ring)
- Double Uni Knot (Uni-Uni) - Connecting leader sections together
- Triple Surgeon's Knot - Creating dropper tags
I have the Orvis Clearwater Euro rod and I am extremely happy with it.
Sweet! I've always wanted to try that one. I would love to try the Helios on the high end too!
I think your doing and awesome job on the series.you have cover ton of info.thanks.
I appreciate that!
Great video on euro nymphing on a budget! I picked up a Shadow II used, with an extension kit. Maybe you could explore using a heavy braid instead of mono or a dedicated euro fly line? I use a braid line I think it's 65 lb test. You can get a spool in many colors and inexpensive like on Ebay. It's light, supple, sensitive, and no memory. Thanks for all your videos! I enjoy them all!!
Thanks! That is something I have not tried yet!
Instead of using mono, would braided line be better? Less stretch and apparently more sensitive to feeling bites. Probably cast better too.
I have not done it but there are people who use braided line.
Great content, I would like to see more about casting technique and how to fish the different depth and velocity water.
Great suggestions! I think the breaking down water videos would be helpful for that and I plan more of those. Also I think adjusting the weight of the flies and really showing people how heavy I tied my flies would be a big thing! Thanks for the suggestion!!!
Great video, info is spot on. The catch and the hatch web site offers euro nymphs on sale for great rates several times per year but you get a lot of emails from them wanting you to buy other of their products, tried the cabelas czn tip broke about 3 hrs in to first day. They gave my money back at the store I purchased it from, offered another rod but the other one kinda left a bad feeling about them, review’s were good just a freak deal. Keep up your good work it is most appreciated!!!
Thanks for the suggestion on flies and the rod! My brother had the original Cortland Competition rod and broke the tip on his first trip. They sent him a new section and he was back in action pretty quickly.
I've got the Maxxon Outfitters euro nymphing rod NX-3 10'6 @ $269.99. I've had no problems with it.
Thank you
I have a dragonfly kamloops 4wt euro nymphing rod I bought as a starter it was around $200 and found it to be an exceptionally good starter rod very sensitive and really was able to take a beating worth the money
Cool... Thanks for the input. That was one I'm not familiar with.
Nice informative video for people starting Euro Nymphing. I started 1 month ago and using my current 5 wt, 9 ft Sage rod on medium sized rivers. Steep learning curve so you video series has helped. If I’m going to Euro Nymph on same rivers, what Weight Euro Nymph rod I should consider? Not clear on weight translation from conventional to Euro Nymphing Rod? Thanks.
If you're going to get a Euro Nymphing rod I would recommend a 3wt. I would also recommend a 10' 6" rod as they're more universal and you can reach further than just a 10' rod. The 3wt is only the weight of the tip of the rod so there should still be plenty of backbone in a 3wt but read reviews and look around at what people say about the rods. A medium action rod is ideal for euro nymphing... soft tip that bends down to the middle of the rod and then a stiff butt section. Good luck with your euro nymphing!!!
Lets see a real budget video, $50 Budget! Fly rod, reel, line and flies from a garage sale or flea market. Keep the videos coming, great work. Dean from Wales.
Now that would be a challenge!!! 😀
Nice playlist I saw all in one afternoon. I have a Echo shadow II. But, I broke the tip x 2 in 3 years
WOW! You watched it all in one afternoon? That's quite the commitment! Thanks for joining us! I know people who have broken that (and other) rods as well. My own lower quality rod broke on a guide trip by a client. My expensive rod (Sage ESN) that gets used ALL the time has never had an issue in probably 4 years of using it.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany not a commitment.. it is really enjoyable
As for the fly line, do you think reversing a weight forward floating fly line by tying it to the backing line would give you a relatively thinner level line to work with?
Sure but it's still gonna sag. Just use like 20-30yds of mono or one of those euro leader kits that attach to your floating line
I've gone with just bi-color sighter material for my leader. Saves some coin as there's less stuff to buy. Super simple.
I have some bi-color but have yet to really use it. I may try it in one of my leaders soon though to see how I like it.
I would like to see a video on choosing the best rod for euro nymphing and a rod that will allow me to fish upstream with north country spiders and occasionally dry fly
I've never used my euro rods to cast dry flies but I know people who have and they said they cast well!
Would like to see leader setup tips… knots/tags for sighters and nymph/double nymph and weight tips
I have an entire euro nymphing series where I cover all of that. Check out the videos in that series. The playlist is here. th-cam.com/play/PLuLwf7ym7i7bre38GWqk0pXZggydq3Z5m.html
great video ! i have a trip planned for WV over thanksgiving week i'm going to give it a try .i have a 9.5 " rod but its a 6 weight will i brake off to many with this? thanks
Thanks! Just start with what you have. It's a little heavy and might not be nice to your light tippet but if it has a soft tip that can help. Not sure if it is a fast action or slow action fly rod. Slow action would be better for protecting your tippet. But start with what you have and see how it goes. If you break off on anything try going heavier on the tippet side to compensate. You can get away with heavier tippet sometimes depending on the fish and water conditions. Heavier flies may help with a heavier setup as well. Good luck!
If you were to recommend 4 or 5 flies for a beginning euro-nymph fisherman, what would they be? I've set up a Mono rig with 20# Maxima Chameleon, 4 red/yellow Amnesia sighter, tippet ring, and then my 2 fly tippet. Now I need to select my flies to tie. I have a 10', 4w rod. I just got in an order of several tungsten bead sizes and 12, 14, 16 and 18 hooks. Thanks.
I would recommend this video where I show the flies I use. th-cam.com/video/aOD-KmAvFe4/w-d-xo.html I have videos of how to tie each fly on the channel... See this playlist for how to tie them. th-cam.com/play/PLuLwf7ym7i7ZKJSrh7WP-pftvhmwIytMK.html If I had to pick 4... I would do Sexi Stonefly, Pink Squirmy, Walt's Worm, Peacock Ice Dub
The series is EXCELLENT so far. What I would like to see is if I don't have the cash to buy a euro nymph rod, how would you suggest I use my 8'6 or 9' rod to euro nymph? What types of gear/fly lines will I need to achieve this? I just don't have the scratch right now to afford anything more than say a fly line and leader, but I've got tons of flies that should serve the purpose.
Yeah... I think a lot of people are in similar situations. The technique is the same as I describe in my series but you'll be limited on range. Maybe focus on smaller waters with more defined runs that you can target. I would forget the fly line altogether and just go with the mono rig like I describe in this video.
Can I use a 4wt 9.5 ft ? My local store carries one and a 4 wt is light will it work for light stream work?
I would say use what you have available to you. It won't perform like a euro specific rod but that 9'6" 4wt is going to be a good all around rod for a lot of techniques! I like that it is a little longer than your typical fly rod so that will help with the reach you need when euro nymphing. if you find you like nymphing, then maybe you look to get a euro specific rod down the road! Best of luck!!!
Do you recommend euro leaders? Like fly crate offers?
To be honest, I've always created my own leaders and never used a manufactured leader. I probably can't offer an opinion other than to say I know people who buy their leaders instead of making them.
I caught my first trout today on my new fly rod euro nymphing from watching your videos
That is awesome! Congrats! 🙂
How about a video on hybrid methods between indicator nymphing and euro nymphing? Euro nymphing with an indicator or indicator nymphing with colored sighter on your leader or any combination of those techniques all have distinct uses and advantages
That sounds like a great idea! Thanks!
I want a 11 foot 3wt or a 11 foot 2 wt...any suggestion
Depends on budget. I’m in love with Diamondback Rods. Just ordered my 10’10” 2wt. If that’s too steep there are lots of options suggested in the comments that won’t break the budget.
Money isnt the issue im just having a hard time finding a 11 foot 2 or wt that i actually like
@@Philkoehler4 How about a 10’10” 2wt? That’s the Diamondback and it comes with VERY high recommendations from anglers. Mine just arrived today! Diamondback has blown me away with the rods I’ve fished and I expect this to be the same.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany that will do for sure!!! Thank you for the tip brother!!
BTW - what type of fly do you generally use for the dropper? Another (possibly lighter) bead head? Standard nymph? Thanks!
My dropper really depends on a bunch of things! First thing I'm doing is looking at the bugs in the water by flipping rocks (if i don't already know the water well). I'll imitate what I see typically. If I'm fishing faster and deeper water I'll go with something a little bigger and heavier. For high water like that my favorite is my sexi stone as the point fly and a squirmy as the dropper. Deadly combo. Caddis nymphs are good for those conditions because they stand out a little better with their green color. Also nymphs with hot spots can be good in those conditions. Normal conditions I'm probably doing a standard nymph like my Peackock Ice Dub or a Walts Worm. In lower/clear water conditions my dropper is likely to be a perdigon. But honestly I change things up regularly to see what is working well for that river and the particular conditions I'm experiencing.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Great answer! Thank you for taking the time to respond and spread the knowledge. Your help is greatly appreciated.
If you can run a mono rig can run a braided line rig?
There have a been a few people suggesting that in the comments and I've heard of that a few other times as well. I have never done it but it seems reasonable for a fly line replacement. You'll still want your long (fairly stiff) leader to help deliver your flies though.
Thank you
The problem with a mono rig on many current fly reels is that they don't have a closed frame. Some manufacturers are catching on and producing them again, but the mono rig presents problems with the line escaping out the side of the reel through the gap between the frame and the spool.
YES!!!!! I have heard a lot about that and thank you for bringing that up. I didn't even think about that in this video as something to be aware of.
This rod is priced at around $289, but I recommend the Echo Shadow II. Besides the 10' rod, they sell a "competition" kit that can turn the rod into a 10'6" or 11" rod and it includes weights for the reel seat to help balance the rod and reel.
Sweet! Thank you for the suggestion! I'll add it to the recommended list for everyone! Thanks!
Great video. My only disagreement is drag on the reel. Click is fine
As long as it pulls line smoothly I’m good with the reel. 👍🏻
Could you use the Amnesia as your main line for a mono rig or must you use Chameleon. I tie my regular tapered leader butt sections with Amnesia, and they work fine. Thanks - great video.
Sure can... Amnesia is a bit softer material than Maxima. Maxima is a stiffer mono, so people like the stiffness to aid in casting. But I've seen people use Amnesia for the mainline and sighter.