I’m sure it’s been asked already but I can’t find it in the comments 😂 how long is your leader ? The formulas I’ve tried I hardly ever see my euro fly line out of my reel ? I fish a 10ft 3wt
Very informative. How do you detect the bottom? I can't detect the bottom to save myself let alone a strike. I've got a T & T Contact with euro line and leader. I have to use a NZ wool indicator to even have a chance.
I generally use 3-5’ of tippet from the sighter to the fly. You will need to guess about how deep the water is to begin with. I use the bottom of the sighter as the gauge and hold it just out of the water if I want my fly deeper and lift it out of the water if I want it shallower. It takes some practice for sure. It’s easier to control and you will lose fewer flies in the beginning if you use only a single fly. Maybe I’ll make a video because it’s hard to explain, thanks for watching!
Kindly advise for your suggestion for euro nymphing rod and reel along with fly fishing road and reel.. we have beautiful trout waters in pakistan but unfortunately sport here is only a spinning gear with some spoons and flies tied in. Thanks
I fish an ESN 4 weight down-under in NZ occasionally as I don't seem to catch much fish. I find traditional nymphing more rewarding as I love casting. Thanks for the tips and encouragement from your excellent video.
Love your channel. Great info and common sense advocacy for keeping it simple with what works, as well as respect for the fishery. Do you have a leader recipe you like?
I'm glad I saw this great video! I was trying this on my regular 9ft 5wt rod with the Rio Shorty line andRuo leader, I couldn't even lob much less cast! So glad that was your #1 tip! I ordered the Ultra Streamlight LLBean 3wt 10'6" for $169 today!
I’m just now starting out on my Euro Nymph experiment and really appreciate these tips. Just picked up a 10’ 3wt Sage Pulse for my dedicated nymph rod and I’m now in search of a reel to match up with it. Looking forward to getting out on the water to try my hand at this technique. Thanks again for the video and sharing these tips.
Love your videos and how you've simplified it for those are new at it. Great advice. I was at DA a couple weeks ago and was complementing your videos to one of the staff there who said he was one of your buddies. I fish one of your home waters all the time and would love to connect with you some time.
Ahh I think I know who you were talking about! Thanks for the kind words. I'm sure we will cross paths out there at some point but drop me an email and maybe we can connect
Great video with explicit demonstration concerning fly fishing techniques as well as tips. Thanks man! Subscribed already. I'm just getting started for my own fly fishing adventure in Thailand. Once again, thanks man! Very inspirational!
Hey man, this was great. Just started with euro and the fly selection you gave was great. When fishing the walts and pheasant tail what are the weights your using? Any guidance would be great. Thank you!
I fish them in four different weights ranging from 2.5, 3, 3.5, and 4mm sizes and I’ll also have them unweighted for some occasions. It’s a lot more important to have a larger variety of weights over lots of different patterns. But there is an exception to every rule so this is just a starting point. Thanks for watching!
Dude, very good tips. I'm about 5 months into this euro adventure - love it - and your tips are spot on, especially the tippet one. I'm going to tie a shart and see what I get.
When I started euro nymphing I took a day euro clinic from my local shop. That was super helpful and immediately got me over the learning curve. How to set up the droppers the right distance apart was a big part of becoming more successful. Another tip that helped me get the casting and presentations down was to use a little heavier tippet and flies till I got used to it all. 5x and 3.5-4mm anchor flies depending on the water depth. Yeah it sinks slower but I lost fewer flies and fish till I got used to getting unstuck from the bottom and fighting fish on smaller tippet.
Also, don't skimp on tippet, get the good stuff. Trout Hunter or the new Scientific Anglers fluro are much better. The times I've run out and had to use the other stuff I definitely broke off more fish.
Love the tips.. im just starting out ive done some homework in looking for a EN rod that won't break the bank, it would be nice to get a great rod like the ones mentioned. i do have a expensive Thompson & Thompson 9 foot 5 weight fly rod ive been using for the past 24+years but now im on a really tight budget. An can't go that much $$ on one. There are so many MFG's getting into the game i've found one that i think is a great rod an a great buy. Any one heard of MAXXON OUTFITTERS? They have came out with a euro nymphing rod the NX-3 10'6" ( $229.99) an the Max fly reel 5/6 ( $140.00) Im relly excited to try. Trying to learn as i go. these tips you shared with us, all the people leaving coments an there tips are very helpful, i thank all for sharing. Now to the up some waltz worms. Again thanks 😊 for posting an sharing..
Another very well done, very well thought out video. The one thing I might add for folks new to EN is to get the best technique specific rod they can afford. I am a big believer that there are some truly great bargains to be had in multipurpose fly rods. When you compare some models of the Redington Vice to a Sage X you know that you get a bit more distance and accuracy with the X, but at considerable cost. I personally think rods like a Vice make a great backup to an X for those that have the budget for it. With the EN rods, the difference in sensitivity, and the ability to protect light tippets and confidently land larger fish is so drastically different between the mid range rods and the upper end rods. That's my opinion anyway. I don't think anything comes close to the Sage ESN or T&T Contact II, and their prices seem completely justified. I tend to think folks will have more fun by learning the feel and catching more fish with a nicer rod when it comes to ESN. Some money can be saved by getting a less expensive full frame reel, but for either of those rods it seems like a shame to not put a nice Sage ESN reel, Galvan or Lamson on it. I think the Sage ESN is an economic choice since the weights allow it to be tailored for more than one rod if someone ends up getting a different length/weight once they really get in to it.
@@FlyingTies it sort of bothers me that the price of entry to really be able to learn and enjoy ESN is relatively high. Your comments on a limited selection of flies with the various weight beads was spot on, in my opinion. Learn how to feel what you need to feel before expanding your fly selection.
True, but I think the price of the rods will drop now that there are more on the market. Also, the used market is a great option now also. So there are options for people on a really tight budget.
@@FlyingTies True that. Have you noticed how few Contact II's and ESN's you see for sale used though? I'm guessing we may see more used original Contacts as time goes on and folks upgrade to the latest version. I'd like to talk with someone that has cast a Moonshine Vesper 10'6 EN rod. It's the only EN rod in their Vesper series. Tate, the owner of Moonshine told me the blanks are made in South Korea, and are the same construction as some more expensive rods. Seems like it might be a good budget friendly option for some folks.
@@1NotAPony1 I haven’t tried those out at all. I did have a first generation contact though, they are a lot slower action vs the contact II but are still really nice
You can euronymph with 9ft rod without any problems... so ...this is just something like a good marketing ....1 or 2 ft,doesn't make such a difference as you said...just need a little bit practice....I don't agre with you at all...
Thanks :) Yeah it’s so hard to see that stuff in video. It doesn’t help that I’m using such thin leader material, it’s just gets harder and harder the thinner you go. Thanks for watching!
I'm curious what 9' 5wt rod you were using. I would think a medium rod like the Scott G series would give you tippet protection, but maybe not much casting distance. And where you just using your regular WF floating line while doing the Euro nymphing on the 9' 5wt rod?
I was using a GLoomis Pro4x rod, it leans more towards the medium action side of things. I was using euro nymphing line with that rod if I remember correctly, it's been awhile lol
What color would you recommend for those flies? I live in New Mexico and I’m new to Euro. I’m like you buying flies and not knowing what to use and what works. I’d like to take the guessing out of game and just fish.
On second viewing, I think too much pressure pops the hook out. I don’t have a 5wt, but I was testing this theory with a 6wt and it was doable, but not great.
If you were going to spend some change on a nice euro rod, would you splurge on a 2 wt or 3 wt? I know there are a lot of variables in matching the rod to the river/fishery etc. Which weight rod gets most of your time? thanks!
10’ 6” 3wt is where I would start, and that’s my most used rod. You can basically do everything with that rod, you would maybe go shorter on a really small stream but that’s a small amount of the time for me.
Great video. I've been looking into ESN for a while and have been debating on the forking over the cash for the longer lighter rod. Thanks for convincing me.
Im pretty new to euro nyphing tried it out recently but I dont know if my fly is on the bottom. Are you supposed to feel bottom or anything cuz i havent?
You don’t need to feel the bottom to be catching fish. You should be close to the bottom a lot of the time but you also don’t want to be under the fish. It’s gonna take some practice but it’s worth it in the end. Thanks for watching!
Pretty new to Euro Nymphing but like the common sense approach. The most difficult thing to me is determining the strike. Any suggestions. I have the sage esn 10.5' with Rio technical leader and usually 6x tippet. I've been fishing 1-3 flies.
To start I would just set the hook on any little change in that sighter during the drift. But, it’s mostly going to be improved with time on the water… the more you do it, the easier it is to determine
Another tip is to up the fly weight, heavier flies will create direct contact faster and you’ll fee takes more immediately. Lighter flies will drift more and you won’t have a tight connection as fast so you end up looking for movement/pauses in the leader vs feeling them. Try like a 3.5mm fly as your point fly and then something small like a 2mm as your dropper.
Wonderful video!! I don't tie my own flies can you suggest a good company that sells the two you suggested? I googled Walt's Worm and several of them don't look like the one you're fishing with. Thanks a bunch and I appreciate the information.
Thanks for the kind words :) I would suggest hitting a local fly shop (if there is one in your area) and seeing what they have available. Most shops will have a version of what I’m suggesting that will work great. No need for it to be the exact same fly down to every last material. Hope this helps!
Had to laugh when I came across your video. I used to 'fly ties' back in the 80s. Was a big joke between a couple of buddies that fished tournaments in Europe with me. We were in the military and the European guys were actually not understanding the concept of fishing blind with nymphs. Think we really opened some eyes as we caught some very large Carp.
I use the Orvis Clearwater 3100-4 and I'm happy with it. I have a few questions. How do you like the Sage ESN over the T&T and what weight are you running on the ESN? I'm guessing it's a 3wt. With that game changer lanyard... what tippets do you keep on there? You mentioned tippet in the video but I'm curious which sizes you keep that are mono/nylon vs fluorocarbon and if you change them out much depending on where you go or just set it and forget it? I bring my 10' 3wt and my 9' 5 wt to the D and typically fish, like you mentioned, 4x and 5x and mostly nylon but use FC for my dropper. Your videos' composition are done very well. Keep it up. I really appreciate them. Thanks again.
Can’t go wrong with either the ESN or T&T honestly... I have the 3wt ESN. I’m moving towards all Scientific Angler fluoro as it’s readily available and consistent, and I usually have 4x-7x on my lanyard (there is some 8x on there too but it’s a different t brand) Hope that helps!
I’m sure it’s been asked already but I can’t find it in the comments 😂 how long is your leader ? The formulas I’ve tried I hardly ever see my euro fly line out of my reel ? I fish a 10ft 3wt
Very informative. How do you detect the bottom? I can't detect the bottom to save myself let alone a strike. I've got a T & T Contact with euro line and leader. I have to use a NZ wool indicator to even have a chance.
I generally use 3-5’ of tippet from the sighter to the fly. You will need to guess about how deep the water is to begin with. I use the bottom of the sighter as the gauge and hold it just out of the water if I want my fly deeper and lift it out of the water if I want it shallower. It takes some practice for sure. It’s easier to control and you will lose fewer flies in the beginning if you use only a single fly. Maybe I’ll make a video because it’s hard to explain, thanks for watching!
Good video.
Thanks :)
What river are you fishing here?
I try not to share locations on TH-cam
@@FlyingTies that river probably runs 100 miles...i dont think anyone will find your secret spot
@@ryantherock7664 oh thank god, I was worried
Sarcasm ain't cool bro
Great video! You made some great points! But that de-tuned, out-of-tune synth music has got to go! Set my teeth on edge something awful!
Lol
music was poor quality,otherwise a ice presentation 🎣
Kindly advise for your suggestion for euro nymphing rod and reel along with fly fishing road and reel.. we have beautiful trout waters in pakistan but unfortunately sport here is only a spinning gear with some spoons and flies tied in. Thanks
I fish an ESN 4 weight down-under in NZ occasionally as I don't seem to catch much fish. I find traditional nymphing more rewarding as I love casting. Thanks for the tips and encouragement from your excellent video.
There is a time and place for all techniques that's for sure. Thank for watching!
Love your channel. Great info and common sense advocacy for keeping it simple with what works, as well as respect for the fishery. Do you have a leader recipe you like?
I appreciate that!
I'm glad I saw this great video! I was trying this on my regular 9ft 5wt rod with the Rio Shorty line andRuo leader, I couldn't even lob much less cast! So glad that was your #1 tip! I ordered the Ultra Streamlight LLBean 3wt 10'6" for $169 today!
I’ve never fished that specific rod but I’m sure it will work great. Hard to buy a bad rod these days
Deschutes delivers! Great vid and points.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video!! Thank you!!
Thanks!
I’m just now starting out on my Euro Nymph experiment and really appreciate these tips. Just picked up a 10’ 3wt Sage Pulse for my dedicated nymph rod and I’m now in search of a reel to match up with it. Looking forward to getting out on the water to try my hand at this technique. Thanks again for the video and sharing these tips.
Sounds like a great setup!
Thank you for you service! 🙏
Was gonna ask what state you were in until you said Whitefish. Nuff said lol
Haha yup :)
Great video! Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Love your videos and how you've simplified it for those are new at it. Great advice. I was at DA a couple weeks ago and was complementing your videos to one of the staff there who said he was one of your buddies. I fish one of your home waters all the time and would love to connect with you some time.
Ahh I think I know who you were talking about! Thanks for the kind words. I'm sure we will cross paths out there at some point but drop me an email and maybe we can connect
Great video with explicit demonstration concerning fly fishing techniques as well as tips. Thanks man! Subscribed already. I'm just getting started for my own fly fishing adventure in Thailand. Once again, thanks man! Very inspirational!
Thanks for watching!
Hey man, this was great. Just started with euro and the fly selection you gave was great. When fishing the walts and pheasant tail what are the weights your using? Any guidance would be great. Thank you!
I fish them in four different weights ranging from 2.5, 3, 3.5, and 4mm sizes and I’ll also have them unweighted for some occasions. It’s a lot more important to have a larger variety of weights over lots of different patterns. But there is an exception to every rule so this is just a starting point. Thanks for watching!
Dude, very good tips. I'm about 5 months into this euro adventure - love it - and your tips are spot on, especially the tippet one. I'm going to tie a shart and see what I get.
Awesome! Yeah it’s a lot of fun for sure. Thanks for watching!
Great videos Zach! Really enjoy your presentation and content! Job well done!
I appreciate that! :)
Great video! Can I ask what rod you're fishing? My home water is similar size with comparable fish and I'm trying to decide between a 2 or 3 wt.
My current rods are 10' 6" and 10' 9" 3wt. I would personally go 3wt over 2wt only because it's a nice middle ground. Hope that helps!
@@FlyingTies Sure does, I appreciate it!
Anytime
Hey name another two flies that work great :) also awesome video keep it up.
Thanks! Will do!
When I started euro nymphing I took a day euro clinic from my local shop. That was super helpful and immediately got me over the learning curve. How to set up the droppers the right distance apart was a big part of becoming more successful. Another tip that helped me get the casting and presentations down was to use a little heavier tippet and flies till I got used to it all. 5x and 3.5-4mm anchor flies depending on the water depth. Yeah it sinks slower but I lost fewer flies and fish till I got used to getting unstuck from the bottom and fighting fish on smaller tippet.
Also, don't skimp on tippet, get the good stuff. Trout Hunter or the new Scientific Anglers fluro are much better. The times I've run out and had to use the other stuff I definitely broke off more fish.
I agree, the nice fluorocarbon is expensive but it's worth it for sure!
Great video! I too am going to try this technique
Let me know how it works out!
Love the tips.. im just starting out ive done some homework in looking for a EN rod that won't break the bank, it would be nice to get a great rod like the ones mentioned. i do have a expensive Thompson & Thompson 9 foot 5 weight fly rod ive been using for the past 24+years but now im on a really tight budget. An can't go that much $$ on one. There are so many MFG's getting into the game i've found one that i think is a great rod an a great buy.
Any one heard of MAXXON OUTFITTERS? They have came out with a euro nymphing rod the NX-3 10'6" ( $229.99) an the Max fly reel 5/6 ( $140.00)
Im relly excited to try. Trying to learn as i go. these tips you shared with us, all the people leaving coments an there tips are very helpful, i thank all for sharing. Now to the up some waltz worms.
Again thanks 😊 for posting an sharing..
Another very well done, very well thought out video. The one thing I might add for folks new to EN is to get the best technique specific rod they can afford. I am a big believer that there are some truly great bargains to be had in multipurpose fly rods. When you compare some models of the Redington Vice to a Sage X you know that you get a bit more distance and accuracy with the X, but at considerable cost. I personally think rods like a Vice make a great backup to an X for those that have the budget for it. With the EN rods, the difference in sensitivity, and the ability to protect light tippets and confidently land larger fish is so drastically different between the mid range rods and the upper end rods. That's my opinion anyway. I don't think anything comes close to the Sage ESN or T&T Contact II, and their prices seem completely justified. I tend to think folks will have more fun by learning the feel and catching more fish with a nicer rod when it comes to ESN. Some money can be saved by getting a less expensive full frame reel, but for either of those rods it seems like a shame to not put a nice Sage ESN reel, Galvan or Lamson on it. I think the Sage ESN is an economic choice since the weights allow it to be tailored for more than one rod if someone ends up getting a different length/weight once they really get in to it.
Yeah I agree with this Jeff 👍🏻 Well said
@@FlyingTies it sort of bothers me that the price of entry to really be able to learn and enjoy ESN is relatively high. Your comments on a limited selection of flies with the various weight beads was spot on, in my opinion. Learn how to feel what you need to feel before expanding your fly selection.
True, but I think the price of the rods will drop now that there are more on the market. Also, the used market is a great option now also. So there are options for people on a really tight budget.
@@FlyingTies True that. Have you noticed how few Contact II's and ESN's you see for sale used though? I'm guessing we may see more used original Contacts as time goes on and folks upgrade to the latest version. I'd like to talk with someone that has cast a Moonshine Vesper 10'6 EN rod. It's the only EN rod in their Vesper series. Tate, the owner of Moonshine told me the blanks are made in South Korea, and are the same construction as some more expensive rods. Seems like it might be a good budget friendly option for some folks.
@@1NotAPony1 I haven’t tried those out at all. I did have a first generation contact though, they are a lot slower action vs the contact II but are still really nice
wicked videos man!!!!!!! love it all
Thanks man!
You can euronymph with 9ft rod without any problems... so ...this is just something like a good marketing ....1 or 2 ft,doesn't make such a difference as you said...just need a little bit practice....I don't agre with you at all...
Agree to disagree
Excellent suggestions. Really wish I could see where your line is tracking in the water.
Thanks :) Yeah it’s so hard to see that stuff in video. It doesn’t help that I’m using such thin leader material, it’s just gets harder and harder the thinner you go. Thanks for watching!
I'm curious what 9' 5wt rod you were using. I would think a medium rod like the Scott G series would give you tippet protection, but maybe not much casting distance. And where you just using your regular WF floating line while doing the Euro nymphing on the 9' 5wt rod?
I was using a GLoomis Pro4x rod, it leans more towards the medium action side of things. I was using euro nymphing line with that rod if I remember correctly, it's been awhile lol
Euro nymphing reminds me of Czech nymphing aren’t they very similar? Great videos.
Yeah, I’m just using that as a general term really. They are basically the same thing. Thanks!
What color would you recommend for those flies? I live in New Mexico and I’m new to Euro. I’m like you buying flies and not knowing what to use and what works. I’d like to take the guessing out of game and just fish.
I like pink, copper, and silver but bead color isn't super important so I would start simple.
I think you can put a lot more pressure than you think with 6x and a 9’ 5wt.
On second viewing, I think too much pressure pops the hook out. I don’t have a 5wt, but I was testing this theory with a 6wt and it was doable, but not great.
If you were going to spend some change on a nice euro rod, would you splurge on a 2 wt or 3 wt? I know there are a lot of variables in matching the rod to the river/fishery etc. Which weight rod gets most of your time?
thanks!
10’ 6” 3wt is where I would start, and that’s my most used rod. You can basically do everything with that rod, you would maybe go shorter on a really small stream but that’s a small amount of the time for me.
Nice! Thank you for the advice! What stream are you fishing at the start of video?
Thanks for watching! I don’t share locations online as a general rule
Great video. I've been looking into ESN for a while and have been debating on the forking over the cash for the longer lighter rod. Thanks for convincing me.
Yeah, there are a lot of really great options out there but the ESN is pretty nice. Thanks for watching!
Im pretty new to euro nyphing tried it out recently but I dont know if my fly is on the bottom. Are you supposed to feel bottom or anything cuz i havent?
You don’t need to feel the bottom to be catching fish. You should be close to the bottom a lot of the time but you also don’t want to be under the fish. It’s gonna take some practice but it’s worth it in the end. Thanks for watching!
One more question. Do you have a fly shop recommendation on where to get fly tying material?
I mostly order from deschutesangler.com and tacticalflyfisher.com but there are a lot of great places
Pretty new to Euro Nymphing but like the common sense approach. The most difficult thing to me is determining the strike. Any suggestions. I have the sage esn 10.5' with Rio technical leader and usually 6x tippet. I've been fishing 1-3 flies.
To start I would just set the hook on any little change in that sighter during the drift. But, it’s mostly going to be improved with time on the water… the more you do it, the easier it is to determine
Another tip is to up the fly weight, heavier flies will create direct contact faster and you’ll fee takes more immediately. Lighter flies will drift more and you won’t have a tight connection as fast so you end up looking for movement/pauses in the leader vs feeling them. Try like a 3.5mm fly as your point fly and then something small like a 2mm as your dropper.
Wonderful video!! I don't tie my own flies can you suggest a good company that sells the two you suggested? I googled Walt's Worm and several of them don't look like the one you're fishing with. Thanks a bunch and I appreciate the information.
Thanks for the kind words :) I would suggest hitting a local fly shop (if there is one in your area) and seeing what they have available. Most shops will have a version of what I’m suggesting that will work great. No need for it to be the exact same fly down to every last material. Hope this helps!
Had to laugh when I came across your video. I used to 'fly ties' back in the 80s. Was a big joke between a couple of buddies that fished tournaments in Europe with me. We were in the military and the European guys were actually not understanding the concept of fishing blind with nymphs. Think we really opened some eyes as we caught some very large Carp.
I use the Orvis Clearwater 3100-4 and I'm happy with it. I have a few questions. How do you like the Sage ESN over the T&T and what weight are you running on the ESN? I'm guessing it's a 3wt. With that game changer lanyard... what tippets do you keep on there? You mentioned tippet in the video but I'm curious which sizes you keep that are mono/nylon vs fluorocarbon and if you change them out much depending on where you go or just set it and forget it? I bring my 10' 3wt and my 9' 5 wt to the D and typically fish, like you mentioned, 4x and 5x and mostly nylon but use FC for my dropper. Your videos' composition are done very well. Keep it up. I really appreciate them. Thanks again.
Can’t go wrong with either the ESN or T&T honestly... I have the 3wt ESN. I’m moving towards all Scientific Angler fluoro as it’s readily available and consistent, and I usually have 4x-7x on my lanyard (there is some 8x on there too but it’s a different t brand) Hope that helps!
@@FlyingTies You were up early. Thanks for the reply!
Thanks Man !!!!
awesome video!
Great video, thanks for breaking it down!
Thanks Robert
What is your set up when you put two flies on? Inline?
I use the same set up but just add a piece of tippet with a triple surgeon’s know.
Lol, it is difficult with a 9ft rod. Tried using one when my euro rod broke and it was rough. Nice tips!
Yeah it’s tough for sure, hope I don’t need to do it again 😂
@@FlyingTies lol you and me both!
great job mate, thanks for your help.
👍🏻 thanks
Great video! I took a lot of notes.
let me know how it goes
How long of a tippet should I use?
It all depends on the depth of the water but I run 3-5’ based on conditions. Hope that helps!
How do you like the galvan EN reel? contemplating on getting it
Galvan reels are hands down my favorites, can’t go wrong.
That galvan is a beautiful reel that's definitely next on my list.
All good stuff, thanks
You bet
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