POTB 6164 Lost Train!
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One of the most viewed Port Of Tillamook Bay videos on youtube! For several days I searched the old POTB line between Banks and Buxton, OR for this vintage EMD SD9. I finally got a tip that it was in Timber. I drove down the windy forest roads to the tiny community, and sure enough it was there, and had been sitting for many years unused. Since July 2012, this locomotive has long since been scrapped.
If anyone's wondering the location this engine was once at, the town is called Timber, OR. It's a tiny community out in the coast range and can be found on google or yahoo maps.
The smoke in the beginning was only someone using the fireplace in a nearby house, not the engine being started.
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This was a railroad that served hundreds of businesses before it was washed out in 2007 and would have cost tens of millions to fix. The company did not have that kind of money and SD9's aren't worth anything, so they just left everything. POTB planned on fixing it in due time, but fisheries regulations and the recession killed their efforts, and they filed for bankruptcy. The real heartbreaker is when the railroad died, so did the hundreds of businesses it served. You will find loads of abandoned equipment, trucks, buildings, sawmills, etc.
It's a shame to hear that, but thank you for that summary. Sad but interesting.
The only POTB customer that had regular shipment was Hampton. they were moving to transloading in Forest Grove when it washed out. No business disappeared when the line closed.
@@knotbumper thanks for clarifying.
That's why High hood locomotives are my favorite, and they always will be.
Like to see it restored and running again, such a handsome locomotive!
It's a real shame to see a classic high nose get scrapped.
yes it is yes it is
@@statelawz2732 I'm glad it has been scrapped. These things can become a safety hazard. Not to mention tieing up steel and resources.
@Dominic’s Trains & Movies 2004 We are facing a crisis of global warming and climate change. All polluting locos must be recycled for scrap including diesels.
@Dominic’s Trains & Movies 2004 Check out Greta Thunberg. It's not a hoax. Climate change emergency already called by UK Gov. Check out the facts. Artic is disappearing, seal levels are rising. Polluting locos will be cut and melted down as scrap.
@Dominic’s Trains & Movies 2004 I don't like cars and trucks either. They need to be replaced with electric and hydrogen power equivalents.
It's not just one iceberg that's melting, it's all of them. Sea levels are rising a few mm every year. Average temperatures are also rising. Just quoting a couple if examples is no argument, you need to look at long term averages.
You may be rail fan foamer, that's fair enough, but don't be a climate change denyer. You are only going to have to revise your view in 10 years time.
You may as well start now and help prevent it.
I wonder if the horn was still functional?
Probably, just needs air pressure.
I'd like to find that and get someone like The Florida Railway Museum to preserve it! You know, most Sds 9-15 where either scraped or left to rust like that one, and it would be even rarer to find one in both to POTB livery and in such fine condition!
Littlerly I tried to by the locomotive for $27,000 and they said scrapping it would give them more money for air museum. I was so pissed.
Ill sell you one right now for 27000! Get in touch
@@knoturfriend514 Scrapping these old locos is safer. We don't want them hanging around rusting. Cut them and recycle the metals.
@Dominic’s Trains & Movies 2004 This is generally a financial disaster. However, you are welcome to restore old locos and see of it covers your costs. Doing that would be more productive than saying someone else should do it. I wish you luck, but you will find you soon lose all your cash!
Scrap steel is worth no more than about 20 bucks a ton now. With a locomotive that weighs 180 tons that would only yield 3600 in scrap. You are saying someone is actually paying MORE than 150 dollars per ton??? Hell that doesn't include the labor, machines, and the trucks to haul it all out.
@@PreservationEnthusiast nice name, troll.
This is a sad case, seeing this happened. It was allowed to die and sadly the industries it served. No doubt the same happened to the community in a real sense, as well. Thank you for bringing this important information to the people.
That looks Crazy! I love exploring abandoned buildings!
Man dav3fk is right, they should be in yard being fixed up and hauling cargo till they cannot even move! And these locomotives are quite expensive. That locomotive will rust in peace. A moment of silence please.... thank you.
That looks just like the dead SD9 in March 2014 issue of Trains except that one is POTB #6116 at Tillamook, Ore.
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Wow, that was an old comment also. Hello to you!
After the line was shut down due to bad track, and trustles. The POTB contacted other railroads, and sold parts out of them. I don't know if this motor was canabalized, but many of the POTB motors were.
The SD9! My favorite EMD locomotive of all time! Sad to see one abandoned like this....
sad - they deserve better.
That's our collective heritage being cut up for scrap.
I just realized that I should probably get over cars, and into trains - if I could get a small loco, I'd NEVER run out of things to fix. Seems like the logical gearhead progression.
We can't save *everything*. It did its time, and then it was scrapped. That's the way of things. The Circle of Life. ;)
do a search for 1"-1' scale trains some are about 6' long and can pull a small auto. Some are steam and some have electric motors.
@@kevinbarry3066 These things should be scrapped quicker. It's a safety hazard.
@Dominic’s Trains & Movies 2004 Your reply is merely anecdotal. Scrap locos present real safety hazards and need cutting quickly.
I stopped by there, and it was gone! I wished I could have seen it before it got scrapped.
you can look for the train used in the movie the fugitive.
Looks a lot like our vintage EMD G12 ''DA" class loco, with the full height hood. Bit of a shame she got junked...
Got lots of video/pictures of this unit and the 6114 in operation back in 2003 at Tillamook. Sad to see these old "Cadillacs" bite the dust.
looks like smoke coming out of the exhaust at 35. appears to be an old Burlington northern
No worries. I've felt the same way myself. I've purchased dozens of locomotives over the years for rebuilding. The truth of the matter is however that sometimes you end up scrapping one just for the parts to keep other units running. Take care.
it looks out west, where is this at?
Awesome, that's what trains looked like when I was a kid.
This kind of tank car has been massively produced in Brazil. Now I know which model it takes on.
Great vid! Has that " I was just walking through the forest and.. Look what i found!" feel to it!
Is there a story on this? I'm just curious as to what makes someone want to just leave an engine and some cars in the middle of no where and not come back.
Adderall vs This railroad suffered a major washout in the Salmonberry canyon between this location and the Oregon Coast years ago. The damage was far too expensive for the railroad to repair. Since 2007, these tracks have been out of service and most of the equipment scrapped. Fortunately, some of the equipment left on the coast still survives:
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oh ok that makes sense
I was really wondering the same thing. Gotta be a lot of money sitting there.
@@richardcasey7521 Technically, natural disasters did cost millions in basic road repair, and rebuild money. The amount of man power, equipment use and updated railroad code tracks, ties, spikes, track repair would run about $4.9 million (low) to approx $55.9 million. It's really up to Oregon State government on exemption paperwork, legal costs, procurement, then hauling/towing the locomotives to a service shed, to rebuild the engines, tanks, air breaks, couplers, air hoses, wheels, bearings, car maintenance costs. There would be a massive industrial need, to restore the original railroad line. Not to mention, upgraded safety costs, training a railroad crew to inspect every inch of railroad line, design new road bed, trestles, bridge spans, anti-flood-/-flood control zones to protect the track line, get the original vintage diesel engines operational, and safe to use, on a ball-park figure, I would guesstimate approximately $75 million to $250 million in today's money.. Not to mention, if the State of Oregon has strict laws on enviornment codes, fish, wildlife, codes, and other codes that the railroad has to comply to operate. Plus, hiring 24/7/365 security team-force to keep vandals, and undesirables off the tracks, local, county, state law enforcement cooperation.. Most of the equipment currently abandoned is probably not worth much in scrap iron.. unless wealthy rich, billionaire-trillionaires would amass enough capital to procure the entire line, under historical jurisdiction, going by the original years it began/operated. If you're not Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Rockerfeller, Rothschild rich, worst case scenario, most of the equipment will be sold for scrap iron, and never seen again, assuming that has already happened. Only Big Bucks (money) and or State-Federal, private trillionaire money talks. :'( Sad.. Even Texas has hundred of thousands of miles of abandoned, ancient railroad miles since dismantled back in 1930's to the 1960's.. When Steam and Diesel locomotives were replaced with modern diesels and the route/lines were abanonded to be sold for scrap iron.. I better photo snap this comment that's unoffensive in case my 1st amendment rights are violated by Google TH-cam Censorship guidelines. :)
Wow this is cool!! It's been sitting for a while, it's amazing how a rail line and and engine were forgotten and abandoned!! This is so cool. Were exactly is this?
This looks like a very fun modeling project.
If i was there, I would climb in the cab to see the controllers and possibly the engine, turbines. I think she will not crank as there are no batteries.
Railroads are privately owned corporations. They do not have to sell them or trade them in. This loco was probably depreciated off the books years ago. It may be left there forever...up to the railroad. They car repair it or scrap it or leave it there. If you live in the US you can certainly "abandon" equipment like this. Happens all the time though usually they end up just cut up for scrap.
Yeah, good point! But since the locomotive sat idling for several years, all it would've really needed is new engine components, brake pads, and several other numerous parts! But it unfortunately was recently scrapped, and I was giving my honest opinion that it looked fine the way it was!
As an Oregon native, so sad to see that line closed.
where did anything go wrong to have a locomotive abandoned in the middle of the woods!?
sad that ones gone i dont like many diesels but i do like the sd 7's and 9's
yea i too saw the smoke.. them engines and freight cars needa be restored!!
IKR? There is some RS3 or somthing rotting away in Salem, NJ. Not too far from my house.
True. Sometimes corporations and/or individuals will abandon something in place. Often they have to based on contracts and/or leases. It is the right of the individual to abandon in place. And a scrapper coming onto the property and taking it would indeed be stealing...as it should be.
What's your point? That's why you jump off in the woods and high tail it before before it impacts the bridge.
dude idk why they scrapped the engn because it should have been put in a museum because I have not seen a high hood of this type in person or even I preservation
why is there smoke coming from it?
my dad use to work for bn now he works for bnsf and bn deserves so much more
I think so! These make nice hot fires to warm the cold nights!
Yeah, another good point! (Man, I feel stupid! LOL) Really it's not the end of the world if one historic unit ends up getting scrapped, because out of all the SD9's that are preserved, really it's no big deal! (Yet, I still think that a perfectly decent locomotive just sitting there, still could've been placed back in service, or even rebuilt into a slug or whatever!)
That poor thing
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FYI 6164 was scrapped this week is is going to be sometime this week.
Thiss unit should have ended up in some museum.
Agreed.
i really want to know how did this engine get there i see old abandoned engines all the time where i live but they are all at the rail yard being used as scrap,
Rest in prices sd9😢
Peace
why would you drive a locomotive to the middle of nowhere, get out and leave?
@ the :23 second mark, there is smoke coming from the top of the locomotive........WHY?......
Should have sneaked up on it, when it wasn't listening, dumped gasoline all over it, set it alight, sat back had some beers & roasted marshmallows while it burns!
Oh man!! What history does this engine have. I wonder if anybody can bring it back to life?
Is it possible that someone got in that locomotive and tried to start it up? Mabe that would explain the smoke coming from it.
Value is not always easily determined. Sometimes the "property" is still on the books and can't be scrapped without an impact on the books. Sometimes you think the property is owned by one person...but it's not. I've worked with shortlines where they take over the line and find there are cars on the property owned by out of business car leasing companies. Scrapping them becomes problematic. Knowing who owns what and what the plans are can be elusive to those not in the know.
Maybe a hobo turned the locomotive into a trailer home is why there was smoke comming from it. the round white car must have been the septic tank!
I worked for that railroad. There all gone except for a couple being operated in tillamook by OCSR
Someday, I want to backpack the whole abandoned POTB alignment.
Wow that it cool to find. shame it is just left to waste away . but it looks to be in good shape.
So why is it sitting off like this abandon? Its kinda a sad sight to see. :/
I have heard that they are pulling the tracks at Timber?
I have photos of this SD9 working in Omaha in the mid 90s on a work train! And, of it in Denver in mid 80s; I think it is former C&S unit.
Were is this at I want rescue that engine and restore it.
Very good video 📹
keep me updated with what happens to this engine. love to find out if it is restored.
There is 3 switch locomotives rusting at the former I.P. plant in Chelatchie Prairie, WA. One is an LP&N , grande Rhonde and Longvire Fibre. Another locomotives is an 80 Tonner?
Dont Cry! It looks restorable!
Great find! Is this line abanboned?, don't look like any activity. What did you find out about this locale?, the end of the branch?, any industry? I would hope that you scouted a little bit!
you do know you can purchase old unused locos for a about the same as a used car right
Do you have any closer images of the locomotive, or inside?
What does POTB stand for? Portland Oregon Train Bureau?
POTB stands for Port of Tillamook Bay. It was a railroad that operated in Oregon from 1986 to 2007 when a severe storm heavily damaged POTB's trackage. They opted not to repair their tracks because it was deemed too expensive to fix. That's why POTB #6164 was abandoned here.
Ah I knew it was something Oregon. It's one of the few things that includes words like of. Like why isn't U.S.A instead U.S.O.A? Never mind.
How did you find that!?!?!?!
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Why this engine was abandoned in the forest?
Where is this,and you should have seen if it would start up
It'd be cool if you read the description of the video... "If anyone's wondering the location this engine was once at, the town is called Timber, OR. It's a tiny community out in the coast range and can be found on google or yahoo maps."
Why was there smoke coming out of the chimney? Did someone live in there ?
A moment of silence for this locomotive please.........AMEN!
And they can be used as switchers and heck even excursion assistants
It would be fun to get you some booster cables and jump start that thing, then put it in high gear and jump off and let it roar its way to whatever is down the rails from it........
yes.....Is the engine still there....why doesn't somebody get that thing outta there
You know what would be spooky if the light came on and the engine started up and began to move with noone on board.
The engine is not dead! Try the Minnesota Transportation Museum. They have a fresh painted BN SD9 number 6234.
So sad! God Bless!
bit of a waste ,
An individual should buy this old railroad, the locomotive, and the cars....restore them, and have a private tourist road.
i love to scrap out all those trains
Still looks like you could put a weed eater on the plow and run it down the tracks!
If it is abandoned why did I see smoke coming out of the smoke stack or what ever it is.
Is any part of that line east of Banks still used ?
The line at banks was still served by POTB until 2009 when they shut down for good. 6164 was used to switch the banks mill. when they shut down, they drove it as far as the tracks were in okay condition, so timber because after timber, washouts and other nasty stuff starts.
all you have to do is clean her up a bit, replace a few parts, and boom, its back on the rails
Wonder if they can still be started
Good title for a movie.
Too cool! Was this equipment just abandonned here?
Why did you not go closer and try get inside?
The "all it would've really needed" you discussed might come out to be tens of thousands of dollars. At some point it is just not worth putting the money into these old units.
You know what I'd do?
Steal it.... Because why not? It's abandoned :P
+Teneishia Coleman : Wouldn't you need a license or something to even drive it? Just asking.
probably lol
Teneishia Coleman : Let's not mention about the debris that lays on the tracks. Last thing you want is to derail and get injured. Well, that's if you care about your well-being or not. I'm sure you do though.
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ya want the peice bad enough, roll up your sleeves, get out the big toys,and get after it, we got the tools, we got the talent, we get the job done.
Why do you use ... instead of ,?
Would have been even more rustic of a shot near the end without the trucks in the foreground.
who owns it? Im looking to find one to restore
And yeah, why did they abandon the old BN SD9? It's in good shape!
Is this in Tillamook?
have you tired to start it yet?
Wish it was saved that loco still looks operational
i believe they have been moved now, but i remember they were somewhere near strathfield.