45:37 "Ben don't worry we're going to get your 5 grand back, okay? Don't worry" .... "Ben, we're just going to need another 5 grand, but the system works. You just going to have to trust us." ... "Okay, Ben. We're down 10 grand now. But just give us another 3 grand. Come on Ben, our number is going to hit. I can just feel it. Ben? Ben?
As a person who went through a bout of gambling addiction, mostly blackjack and roullette, I can totally appreciate what Derren did here. No matter how good you are, gambling is gambling. You can lose 5k just like that, confidence means nothing.
I don't know about everyone else in the comments, but the fact Derren got 5k out of Ben's bank and he didn't notice between the event happening and the show suggests he could probably afford to lose 5k anyway. Christ if £5 is missing from my account I notice it.
Yep! My bank would've been calling to assess all those overdraft fees! I feel like Brown my have intentionally chose the wrong number. I felt that was when he tried it with the Lottery. ...show abruptly ends. Hopefully the money was returned. Guess we will never know.
@@missengineer2782 Same here. In comparison to his more recent shows which are more remarkable , this was pretty lame. Though I guess it’s his early shows. But this to me was staged. (The motorway ‘trick’ is possible, but it would take an incredible amount of knowledge and practice which I doubt he did with such a short time period for a one off show piece for Tim Westwood 😆) For one the guy who’s money was stolen seemed extremely wooden in his acting. Watching an evening show (probably aired at 9pm) and just so happens to be in a freshly ironed shirt, jeans and shoes (not something a man would wear around the house and definitely not while relaxing to watch a show he was ‘hypnotised’ to watch - so no ‘maybe he was going out’. Also any money won would of had to be returned on the basis of carrying such cameras. Maybe I’m thinking too much into it, but he was well prepared (or purposely), to NOT hit the winning number to play into the grander scheme of his image towards the public audience as he was still growing in reputation, and to give a more trusting awe of genuineness in all he will do upcoming. No doubt they would work and why that he set it all up just for such an anti climax (albeit funny) if it wasn’t for a the bigger picture.
@@Allegro_Giusto Excellent points. This was not a legit casino. I work in the industry & have travelled to dozens (maybe 100's) of casinos. Not even close to a proper roulette setup, no pit boss or house observer present, & the dealers chip tills were all kinds of amatuer & out of wack. This ain't a main pit at a big casino, nor a high roller lounge. It was a sketchy underground dive or.... it was fake.
I'm glad Derren did this, it's very smart indeed. He won even though you'd think he lost. He's basically made people think twice about gambling and put people off rather than win once and encourage or promote gambling. The audience wants him to win and it'll be great, losing is the reality of life gambling. Well done Derren.
nope, he did this as a stunt to show how you cant win the casino, and how it really can be damaging as its all rigged against you, he did a lovely interview about it on ITV I think
This world is such a better place with Derren Brown in it. You are the 1 in a billion Derren. You are a mere mortal and yet you achieve in reality what is mere mortals dream about. You rock!
Thing i love about Derren, he's honest and it wasn't all set up. Next to 8 was amazing in itself. If he had of spread bet the 4 numbs around his prediction and kept winning he'd be thrown out after 5 spins!
@@GWOAT I am 99% sure it was faked. Practically everything Derren does is fake and he admits it. Elsewhere in this thread yesterday I posted where there is a supposed "camera glitch" where it actually goes black allowing him to splice in recorded footage. He faked it, in my view because he wanted to show the country the true casino experience, going in prepared to win, expecting to win, and coming out a loser. All he had to do was hire a casino when they had shut and have "extras" turn up and record it all without sound. They could add the sound using sound effects later in the studio. I am just amazed some actually think it was "real" as shown. Even Derren admitted at the beginning it uses magic tricks misdirection and showmanship It was essentially Derren doing an "anti gambling" advert.
I went to see Showman live in 2021 and Derren wiped five seconds of my memory. 100% believe he got Ben to give him 5K and made him forget he ever had it
HAHAHAHAHAHA 😅 This is what I was thinking, just in a less witty fashion. I was thinking, now everyone who knows Ben knows he has that kind of money he wouldn't notice missing AND he's extremely suggestible 😬
Even in 2021, there is still no equivoqlent to Derren Brown! Multiple people have tried, all ended up OUT of the race! Still the number one master in his field! 👍🏻👍🏻
I was wondering today whether different countries have their own version of Derren and what sparked that thinking was the curiosity as to whether a Derren is tuned into British cultural mindset specifically or his ways can work with people from somewhere completely different...
@@ChrisTian-uw9tq Some things are not possible outside of the English language, but 90% of what Derren does would easily translate. His methods would work for people in different countries as well as in the UK. There are Mentalists all over the world, who work in many different languages, but I'd happily say that globally, Derren is the gold standard for this generation. I don't think many of his peers would argue that either.
@@SupernovaSymie I don't dispute it either :) Thanks for your thoughts shared ;) Has me consider that with that train of thought, what about those Derren's out there who aren't as public... what they use these skills for and to which degree play influence to broader audiences unaware... His episode with the spirit of the dead contact dude, Joe... just begs to think what is going on out there. I came across this video on YT where I was certain the guy was utilizing some of these techniques to promote himself, quite the channel of tripe he had behind him. Aaron Doughty I believe it was... rather freaked me out...
@@ChrisTian-uw9tq Well history tells us that these and many other techniques were used to swindle way before they were used to entertain. In fact, even today, I turn on one of the many 'lifestyle' channels and watch people using the same skills that Derren has mastered to con, trick and manipulate people and positioned in good faith. Derren is a master at what he does, there's nobody better. But Derren is, has always been and will always be, an entertainer. One of the best.
Not A Bot no I didn’t see him pal where was he in the truck with Ben and what was the deal with the guy standing at the side of the truck with the £100,000 big cheque
Which one, Ben or the girl he called a loser? I think either one would feel shitty. The latter for obvious reasons and the former because now everyone knows he can be duped out of £5k and not even realize it. I know I'd feel stupid and people would never let you live that down!
You can tell the age of this story by the shakiness of the 'sleeve cam', also the size of it. Action cameras have improved so much in the years since this was made.
Right?! And the fact he had to call him on the land line! Not to mention him walking down a dark street without a smartphone flashlight at hand. Ain't nobody with that kind of money kicking around that doesn't have a phone on them now 😂
ROFLMAO!! I swear Derrin, you are awesome. I believe had you split the money into thirds, you would have won two of the throws. Kudos to you for showing an honest ending.
@@BrianPletcher1 He would have done if the matchbox had ended up with Richard. Then he would have revealed what was written on the note and said some guff about how it might seem like lucky people always win, but we can change our luck by being positive or whatever, and then given the £20 to her. There was no psychology involved in that trick at all, no prediction and no influence (just like everything else he does), it was always going to work out no matter who ended up with the money.
@@BrianPletcher1 He tried to - there were a few pushes for the bloke to end up with the £20 and when they didn't work he gave them the extra 10 seconds to switch. He was obviously hoping it would go the other way but you can't guarantee everything.
Point 1 - You can't hypnotise people like that and you can't make them do things that they wouldn't normally do (like give away significant sums of money). Point 2 - Derren "losing" is supposed to be the focal point here and we're supposed to remember that. It's meant to take our focus off how unbelievable it is that he can randomly hypnotise people to do... whatever! Point 3 - Derren's camera shows a blackjack dealer who handles chips and then at the end, doesn't show that his hands are empty (ie: he hasn't stolen any chips for himself) by turning his palms upwards. This is not a real casino. So, everyone then thinks this is "real," because if it were staged, Derren would obviously have won, right? But it IS staged and it's staged to make us believe that ALL of it is real and by "ALL of it," I'm really only talking about the hypnosis part. If we accept that all of it is real, then we've accepted the hypnosis bull-poop part as real as well, and that's the whole purpose of this show/ episode. Once Derren has established his super-powers of hypnosis in this manner, then following episodes that use this bull-poop, fantasy twaddle will be accepted as genuine too, because we all remember that time when Derren lost $5,000- of someone else's money, right? In other words, the whole point of this episode is to prime us to believe that hypnosis can do things that it can't really do. Everything else is misdirection, reinforcement and entertainment. That being said, this was fantastically entertaining and Derren Brown is a master magician and a true showman. I hope to continue to see more wonderfully entertaining episodes like this one. nb: Even if I knew nothing about hypnosis, I know a good deal about what people will do for money. I've been to a lot of casino's around the world and the one thing they seem to have in common is that casino's everywhere require their employes to show their palms (palms UP) to the overhead cameras after distributing chips. ESPECIALLY when handling high denomination chips like the $500- ones Derren requested. This is required of them so that the casino can know that they are not palming chips. At 44:21, in the top right hand part of the screen, we can see the "dealer" counting out the chips and passing them to Derren. His hands are visible at all times and at no point does he turn his palms upwards. This alone tells me that they are not in a real casino. Combining that with what I know about hypnosis, led me to the conclusion written above.
Much respect for showing the failures as well as success. He was only one off. A split between 2 or 3 numbers would be a better gamble. And still yield good profit.
To be fair -- if someone just told me they'd 'stolen' five grand from me (AND that I was on TV) I'd be sweating and shitting myself (i.e walking that way) too!
Bruh he literally gets a call from derren nbrown and told he’s on national tv, and not only is he on he already has a camera pointed at him through his window, so he suddenly realizes he’s on tv with no time to prepare... begins to realize he’s the one who is missing 5k, and that it’s now showtime for him with everyone watching
Well, if I discovered a cameraman was filming me through my window, while being called to say that 5K had been stolen from my account - the sweat would be blasting out of my armpits. Panic.
Hi Ben are you are there ? Ben: looks directly at the camera then realises and looks away. Derren: look outside Ben Weve got a camera man outside. Ben: oh yeah I see him now 🤣🤣
He is the best but this one was a set up. I’m pretty gutted in him doing it as I’m a huge fan but to many red flags in this one. Real shame he had to do this
@ 20.03 You didnt hear the speed on the car, you just assumed that all cars will slow down when they see a police. Then you counted down from 52 and read the policeman when you had counted down to the right number. (49)
Starts off with Derren sat in a TV trailer. Outside the guy's place are two TV trailers. He has to ignore the first and enter the second. What's in the first one if not Derren sat providing live commentary? The doors on the back were closed on that one too, to hide what's inside. You don't take two to a site for shooting if you don't use both OBUs (Outside broadcast units). There were no satellite dishes visible outside the vans, so how did they receive the 'live' feed from /mainland Europe'? 25:40 "I can hear you but I can't see you' then at 25:48 he responds to a visual cue 'There you go, so...' when Ben turns to see the open doors, and Derren seems to catch himself. C4 doesn't usually broadcast stuff that has it's gut drop on the floor. What was Derren really up to? Retiring to a quieter existence after this so goes out by letting people feel they shouldn't follow him or believe in him? Derren?
It's all fake. They are actors with water-tight non-disclosure agreements. If it were feasible to 'snap hypnotise' somebody and make them do whatever you want then governments the world over would be studying this. Also there would've been at least one criminal caught using these techniques for personal gain. Because neither of these things have happened then I can only conclude this is entertainment dressed up as superpowers, nothing more.
I think there would be some legal problems if he wins 175k. Casinos have some crazy rules and they didn't want to win because of that. Derren missed it on purpose 100% sure. Plus I'm not convinced he made this bet live. Could be pre-recorded also. They can't risk it being live if casino security spots those cameras or there is some technical problems.
Yes! Too risky for Derren to actually place the bet, film it, win and then put it on air. The casino management would soon work out what had happened and Derren would have been banned from ALL casinos in Europe. Casinos in the USA ban players for 'counting cards' and winning "too much" at Black Jack.
Derren stated, at the start of one of his televised shows - maybe about luck? - that he has been banned from many Casinos in the UK. He used to "sneak" into them, beginning at age 16, and use his astounding memory (techniques), ability to 'read' people, and finely honed card counting skills to win games like Black Jack. It'd be interesting to know what happened to cause many UK Casinos to ban Derren from their premises!
This is one of the older Vegas scams, which explains why it would be carried out in europe seeing as the act is probably more known and illegal in the us. but if he had bet a bit wider over a period he would have walked away rich or busted.
an irish judge ruled no casino or betting shop is obliged to pay out anything..even if you win 1000 after losing 5000 they dont have to pay!! it happened in a casino in PJISBOROUGH DUBLIN IRELAND...he found a fault in the machine...bullshit...
In the time of "CORONAVIRUS WORLD WAR - 3" in 2020 when your own life is at the hands of a invisible pandemic it's watching Derren Brown perform amazing mind games as well as demonstrating odds of probability that breaks all barriers and provides solace and entertainment in the confines of home.Amazing.
Thank you, that really bothered me. I'm glad I wasn't the only one trying to figure out the manipulation behind that. I've never heard him say that, let alone repeatedly, and he's VERY anti-religious so there was some reason eh?
Not sure if this is well known but he released a book a while before this was aired and wrote, in very small print the actual correct number the ball fell on, a wonderful Easter egg!
Did anyone else notice how many attendess were wearing red and black? The first girl, the "Loser" girl. Then, a lovely Black woman, short hair, wearing a string of pearls as well as red and black. 3/4 of the way through, D Brown is facing audience and over his left shoulder, a 20 something man, also wearing red and black. Mr Brown never, ever has any element "by chance".
Dunno bout the mic issue but I know that will the full version ends the same its a couple seconds longer and I remember there being something on the vans or something like that which hinted that everything happened as planned, might neccesarily been the vans might of been a sign or something but I remember there was definetly something
I know it's 5 months too late, but I just noticed that too. He says "I can't see you....there you go....are you there yet"? Lol. Clearly he could see him.
wow so many people are completely missing the point here. Darren Brown miss the number by 1 slot. To me, that is an amazing remarkable feat. This demonstrates that Darren Brown is a human being and he still can make mistakes. Yet even by being off by 1 slot in its first try demonstrate a skill that an average person can never achieve in their lifetime. Don't forget he predicted the cars speed and the number that the tennis ball that will land. Those skills, are not something an average person can ever do. Yet he still able to do time. We live in a society where people wants things to be perfect every single time. When someone makes a mistake they cry out and complains about not being a success. Even when he succeeded there still a lot of people that is being unhappy. They will find the flaws and miss everything else that has been shown to them. That very negative moment overwrite every other achievement that has been made up to that point. You can't ever win with critics about anything. You are dammed if you do. You are dammed if you don't. In this show, he demonstrated some absolute remarkable skills. It is something that we should take consider. Yes, he failed the big moment. Yet he is going to refund everything to that men. This demonstrates that they are taking responsibility for the people livelihood.
Fun fact , Derren Brown down this over 30 time's with different people and is only showing the one he got the closest with. I know how your little tricks are done Derren :)
Inner Peace I don’t know if you’d like to know five months later, but the spray paint can is ... *blowing* on him... there’s probably more layers I’m not getting, but it’s a dirty joke 😂
This was Derren's worst show ever, not because he failed but because he called someone a loser who he recognized as having a low self-esteem and then gave those negative feelings affirmation by setting her up to lose. I can't believe he did that... There's no sugar coating it. That didn't in any way help her change her attitude. He just bullied her on national television. I usually respect what he does but that was some cocky, cold-hearted bullshit. And he always talks about how much he was bullied and called names when he was a kid... Shameful!!!
The reason he did that was because it was required by the trick. No matter who ended up with the £20, Derren was always going to claim that's how it was supposed to go. When Maz ended up with the £20 the trick ends with the winner winning and the loser losing, but if Richard had ended up with the money then he would have finished the trick by telling Maz that she's not really a loser, she just has to think positively and good things will happen, and then she would have ended up with the £20. Being mean to her was setting the audience up to feel really good about the ending if Richard had ended up with the right matchbox.
No, there's no reason to sugarcoat it. Like he said, take risks and you gain rewards more often than those who don't. The opportunities themselves become events that you are lucky to have. Where the adverse point of view sees a burden to be avoided. How nice would he be to reinforce the idea that having a crap attitude pays off as often as a positive attitude?
6:38 My guess is that Derren has all the combinations stacked on the front sheets, and he has memorised them and peels off the extras like a double lift card trick.
Derren "missed" because the show did not want to pay the guy £175,000. The whole casino sequence is 100% staged, either at a phony casino or one that allowed him to film there with no real betting taking place. Derren just had to film the same bit over and over again until it came up 30 or 23 which actually wouldn't take that long as the odds are 1 in 18 of hitting either of those numbers, so, they had to film that sequence probably 50 times at an absolute maximum. It's a win-win for Derren and the producers... he LOOKS like he can predict the section, but does not have to pay out the $$$. If you DO believe that was a "live shot" and he really did get that close, or can even get remotely close to predicting where the ball will land, you must also believe Dude Perfect hit all their shots on the first attempt. Love Derren, but this was unusually weak for him.
Exactly! At least one comment finally hits it on the head! ... It's completely obviously that the end bit is staged just as much as any "win" is staged in any of his other tricks. Derren's one great contribution to entertainment magic over the last decade & a half (like Penn and Teller), has been to shift attention from the out-of-fashion "misdirection by focusing on the final pay-off" to the more interesting "misdirection by focusing on supposedly telling you how he is doing the misdirection". But you can still work Derren's real intentions out by simply focusing on the show's stage-directions: because neither Derren nor the others are that great at acting. The final silent, "pan-away" closing of this whole "bit" shows that they had already planned how to heighten the effect of Derren's "near-miss". And then not only does Derren not have to pay out... but he invests that loss by taking the psychological kudos from it into future tricks and heightening the supposed jeopardy for those later audiences!
So, because the average person isn’t great at maths and can’t make fairly accurate predictions based on the factors mentioned, that means it’s staged? As for them “not wanting to pay the guy £175,000,” do you really think that kind of money would make the slightest bit of difference to C4? I can’t believe I watched deal or no deal for years, no knowing C4 staged the whole thing because they obviously won’t be willing to pay £250,000 if they aren’t willing to lose £175,000.
There's no way that was a real casino. The camera work was designed to obscure the fact but it was still obvious. The sound design was so fake. Obviously a very small room.
No if he got the money he would get sued. It was done on purpose. I believed him until this episode. The vid at the end was so scripted to look like it was real
"using physics to predict where the ball will land" my ass. total bullshit. also for the retards saying he missed on purpose, that was probably the 50th take.
The "producer" at the end convinced me this was the plan after all. Simply winning is too easy, predictable, and boring. Getting the number NEXT to it, is way more captivating, maker better TV, and still shows insane skill.
I remember watching this when it was live, and like everyone else I was waiting for some kind of live twist......Then when it ended abruptly me and the missus just looked at each other wondering WTF just happened 🤣
He lost on purpose to send a positive message to everyone watching. He was very clever in how the programme ended if you reflect on it and what had happened and why.
the first time one of derrens stunts didnt work, was it deliberate to show that derren is human and doesn't always win to help boost everyones confidence that it isn't staged because you always assume hes always in control and will always win. Or was it a deliberate subconscious message that he intentially didnt chose the right number because gambling is a mugs game and it really is down to luck..... The house always wins
Man already knew he was getting the call, he was sweating before he even got the phone call. Look at his shirt...who does that just sitting at home on the couch?
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"Ben, were going to get your 5 grand back ok?"
*Derren returns*
"Ok Ben, now sleep... when you wake up, you will forget this ever happened".
Lol
HAHA
Exactly what I thought 🤣😅😂
Hahahahahaha 🤣😅
hahahhahahhaa
45:37 "Ben don't worry we're going to get your 5 grand back, okay? Don't worry"
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"Ben, we're just going to need another 5 grand, but the system works. You just going to have to trust us."
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"Okay, Ben. We're down 10 grand now. But just give us another 3 grand. Come on Ben, our number is going to hit. I can just feel it. Ben? Ben?
Also, forget these last ten minutes, Ben.
lmao
my fav numbers are 3 8 0 and 30......the misery lollol
LMAO
Arthur Withheld "Yeah, we're gonna need another 5 grand if that's okay?
As a person who went through a bout of gambling addiction, mostly blackjack and roullette, I can totally appreciate what Derren did here. No matter how good you are, gambling is gambling. You can lose 5k just like that, confidence means nothing.
Holy shit, you're gullible.
Help me please
@@gernotg8480 ??
@@CulturedWhiteBoy i am looking for a job
@@gernotg8480 On TH-cam? Where do you live?
Bet you poor Ben was like all of us. “Ahhh, now there’s gonna be a huge twist any minute now”
- “what”
Yup!.......NOPE
yeeeesssss .... i was waiting for twist but ....
I don't know about everyone else in the comments, but the fact Derren got 5k out of Ben's bank and he didn't notice between the event happening and the show suggests he could probably afford to lose 5k anyway. Christ if £5 is missing from my account I notice it.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Good for me nobody could steal such an amount from me because I don't have it in the first place.
Dusty I've come here from a Hannibal trick and saw you commenting there, too! See you in the next one
Lol
Yep! My bank would've been calling to assess all those overdraft fees!
I feel like Brown my have intentionally chose the wrong number. I felt that was when he tried it with the Lottery.
...show abruptly ends. Hopefully the money was returned. Guess we will never know.
"Can't bring in machines to casinos" *procedes to bring a hidden camera and a camera man*
U get it
@@missengineer2782 Same here. In comparison to his more recent shows which are more remarkable , this was pretty lame. Though I guess it’s his early shows. But this to me was staged. (The motorway ‘trick’ is possible, but it would take an incredible amount of knowledge and practice which I doubt he did with such a short time period for a one off show piece for Tim Westwood 😆) For one the guy who’s money was stolen seemed extremely wooden in his acting. Watching an evening show (probably aired at 9pm) and just so happens to be in a freshly ironed shirt, jeans and shoes (not something a man would wear around the house and definitely not while relaxing to watch a show he was ‘hypnotised’ to watch - so no ‘maybe he was going out’. Also any money won would of had to be returned on the basis of carrying such cameras.
Maybe I’m thinking too much into it, but he was well prepared (or purposely), to NOT hit the winning number to play into the grander scheme of his image towards the public audience as he was still growing in reputation, and to give a more trusting awe of genuineness in all he will do upcoming. No doubt they would work and why that he set it all up just for such an anti climax (albeit funny) if it wasn’t for a the bigger picture.
@@Allegro_Giusto Excellent points. This was not a legit casino. I work in the industry & have travelled to dozens (maybe 100's) of casinos. Not even close to a proper roulette setup, no pit boss or house observer present, & the dealers chip tills were all kinds of amatuer & out of wack. This ain't a main pit at a big casino, nor a high roller lounge. It was a sketchy underground dive or.... it was fake.
I feel like there should be more to that ending
This isn't a porno.
yeah he never got his money back
@@lostcloud6615 lol I was gonna take it way farther and say Ben realizes suddenly he also agreed to a full bukkake session in that truck, win or lose.
there was derren holding a giant cheque at the end for 180000
the ending was great ....
The message being gambling is a good way to lose money.
I'm glad Derren did this, it's very smart indeed. He won even though you'd think he lost. He's basically made people think twice about gambling and put people off rather than win once and encourage or promote gambling. The audience wants him to win and it'll be great, losing is the reality of life gambling. Well done Derren.
I feel like that’s not the end, Derren always manages to turn round a “failure” into a huge success by the end of his shows
nope, he did this as a stunt to show how you cant win the casino, and how it really can be damaging as its all rigged against you, he did a lovely interview about it on ITV I think
@@QLMB Thank you for letting us know, since he nevr seems to lose at ANYTHING!!!
This world is such a better place with Derren Brown in it. You are the 1 in a billion Derren. You are a mere mortal and yet you achieve in reality what is mere mortals dream about. You rock!
Thing i love about Derren, he's honest and it wasn't all set up. Next to 8 was amazing in itself. If he had of spread bet the 4 numbs around his prediction and kept winning he'd be thrown out after 5 spins!
It was a magic trick essentially with camera footage splicing and audio overdubs. The whole "in the casino" thing was definitely fake.
@@cliffhulcoopofficial8075 He got it wrong, if it was faked he'd have hit the 8.
@@GWOAT I am 99% sure it was faked. Practically everything Derren does is fake and he admits it. Elsewhere in this thread yesterday I posted where there is a supposed "camera glitch" where it actually goes black allowing him to splice in recorded footage. He faked it, in my view because he wanted to show the country the true casino experience, going in prepared to win, expecting to win, and coming out a loser. All he had to do was hire a casino when they had shut and have "extras" turn up and record it all without sound. They could add the sound using sound effects later in the studio. I am just amazed some actually think it was "real" as shown. Even Derren admitted at the beginning it uses magic tricks misdirection and showmanship It was essentially Derren doing an "anti gambling" advert.
@@cliffhulcoopofficial8075 Omg, i thought he was a real magician lol. You need a good night out it seems, have some fun 👍
Exactly can't film going in but can film at table. Either will get ya in trouble.
I love how I'm watching this show years after it's aired, have never been to Europe, and I'm still nervous that I'm the one whose money Derren took.
Hahaha I was the same. I kept looking at my phone worrying he was going to ring me.
I was checking my phone to see if he’d call! 😅
Fr :3 Same here. Haha. I'm mostly European too, but never been there. Hehe.
Imagine ever having 5 grand in the bank... I definitely knew it was impossible for it to be me... /sigh
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I went to see Showman live in 2021 and Derren wiped five seconds of my memory. 100% believe he got Ben to give him 5K and made him forget he ever had it
If he had £5k of my money I'd want to know where he got the other £4990 ;)
vubhuhjkbhubohjb what do you mean?
@@ophiolatreia93 he only has £10 in his account lol
Amen.
HAHAHAHAHAHA 😅 This is what I was thinking, just in a less witty fashion. I was thinking, now everyone who knows Ben knows he has that kind of money he wouldn't notice missing AND he's extremely suggestible 😬
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I can't believe I just watched this whole 40 minute episode to watch him lose? Surprised me, that's for sure.
Billy Garvey waste of time it seems.
Larry Hampton wouldn't quite say that, it was entertaining for me at least. The ending was still climactic, just in a surprising way
Larry Hampton it was one out mate that still is amazing
the real win was getting the money from the dude..
He was only one off and as he already said he can’t factor variables like bounce
This man could take the world down if he had a case of the Mondays.
Even in 2021, there is still no equivoqlent to Derren Brown! Multiple people have tried, all ended up OUT of the race! Still the number one master in his field! 👍🏻👍🏻
I was wondering today whether different countries have their own version of Derren and what sparked that thinking was the curiosity as to whether a Derren is tuned into British cultural mindset specifically or his ways can work with people from somewhere completely different...
@@ChrisTian-uw9tq Some things are not possible outside of the English language, but 90% of what Derren does would easily translate. His methods would work for people in different countries as well as in the UK. There are Mentalists all over the world, who work in many different languages, but I'd happily say that globally, Derren is the gold standard for this generation. I don't think many of his peers would argue that either.
@@SupernovaSymie I don't dispute it either :)
Thanks for your thoughts shared ;)
Has me consider that with that train of thought, what about those Derren's out there who aren't as public... what they use these skills for and to which degree play influence to broader audiences unaware... His episode with the spirit of the dead contact dude, Joe... just begs to think what is going on out there. I came across this video on YT where I was certain the guy was utilizing some of these techniques to promote himself, quite the channel of tripe he had behind him. Aaron Doughty I believe it was... rather freaked me out...
@@ChrisTian-uw9tq Well history tells us that these and many other techniques were used to swindle way before they were used to entertain. In fact, even today, I turn on one of the many 'lifestyle' channels and watch people using the same skills that Derren has mastered to con, trick and manipulate people and positioned in good faith. Derren is a master at what he does, there's nobody better. But Derren is, has always been and will always be, an entertainer. One of the best.
2:50 onwards “just the face. It’s unusual to be standing for this. Excuse me” 😂😂😂😂😂😂 that made me laugh. Nice one Derren
@Inner Peace Something naughty
Was that double meaning?
@@tanishasharma4457 some people like to be pissed on ;-)
@@jonfromtheuk467 I don't think piss is his bodily fluid of choice.
That was the strangest ending on a derren brown episode. Pretty impressive though.
When he was going to call, my friend Darren called me. I died laughing.
If he used his powers for evil he could literally own the world
Thats not a derren show end
did u even see him in the background at the end?
Not A Bot no I didn’t see him pal where was he in the truck with Ben and what was the deal with the guy standing at the side of the truck with the £100,000 big cheque
Ricky C that's what I mean, the check is for £180,000 and to me it looks like derren
Not A Bot so either that's not the full ending, or they had that ready in case he won but since he lost they didnt need it
Ethan Lappin oh that makes more sense yeah
"I'm not usually standing for this" 😂
I'm so glad someone else caught that 😂😂
OH, I was scrolling to see if anyone commented this, and I knew it was an innuendo, but I literally *just* really got it
I think Derren just lowered that person's self-esteem
Which one, Ben or the girl he called a loser? I think either one would feel shitty. The latter for obvious reasons and the former because now everyone knows he can be duped out of £5k and not even realize it. I know I'd feel stupid and people would never let you live that down!
Imagine being so insane with hypnotizing and finding a very easily hypnotized person that is also rich: STOINKS
You can tell the age of this story by the shakiness of the 'sleeve cam', also the size of it. Action cameras have improved so much in the years since this was made.
Right?! And the fact he had to call him on the land line! Not to mention him walking down a dark street without a smartphone flashlight at hand. Ain't nobody with that kind of money kicking around that doesn't have a phone on them now 😂
2007-8
I'd say they added that effect in post production.
ROFLMAO!! I swear Derrin, you are awesome. I believe had you split the money into thirds, you would have won two of the throws. Kudos to you for showing an honest ending.
Derren Brown hypnotised us all to watch this episode.
40 minutes and then it’s just like “sorry ben we will get that money back to you”
Poor Ben is not the brightest star in the sky. Excellent episode!
haven't even watched it completely yet but derren is such a smart and amazing person
16:25 i felt really bad for her he called her a loser and her face awww
That was needlessly cruel.
Same, I thought he was going to spin it in the end and make her feel better. Nope! 🙁
@@BrianPletcher1 He would have done if the matchbox had ended up with Richard. Then he would have revealed what was written on the note and said some guff about how it might seem like lucky people always win, but we can change our luck by being positive or whatever, and then given the £20 to her. There was no psychology involved in that trick at all, no prediction and no influence (just like everything else he does), it was always going to work out no matter who ended up with the money.
@@BrianPletcher1 He tried to - there were a few pushes for the bloke to end up with the £20 and when they didn't work he gave them the extra 10 seconds to switch. He was obviously hoping it would go the other way but you can't guarantee everything.
If Derren did to me what he did to Ben I would come back from the bank with a receipt saying "insufficient funds" 😂
I'd be more impressed if he could take 5000 pounds out of my account with $400 in it.
Point 1 - You can't hypnotise people like that and you can't make them do things that they wouldn't normally do (like give away significant sums of money).
Point 2 - Derren "losing" is supposed to be the focal point here and we're supposed to remember that. It's meant to take our focus off how unbelievable it is that he can randomly hypnotise people to do... whatever!
Point 3 - Derren's camera shows a blackjack dealer who handles chips and then at the end, doesn't show that his hands are empty (ie: he hasn't stolen any chips for himself) by turning his palms upwards. This is not a real casino.
So, everyone then thinks this is "real," because if it were staged, Derren would obviously have won, right? But it IS staged and it's staged to make us believe that ALL of it is real and by "ALL of it," I'm really only talking about the hypnosis part. If we accept that all of it is real, then we've accepted the hypnosis bull-poop part as real as well, and that's the whole purpose of this show/ episode. Once Derren has established his super-powers of hypnosis in this manner, then following episodes that use this bull-poop, fantasy twaddle will be accepted as genuine too, because we all remember that time when Derren lost $5,000- of someone else's money, right?
In other words, the whole point of this episode is to prime us to believe that hypnosis can do things that it can't really do. Everything else is misdirection, reinforcement and entertainment. That being said, this was fantastically entertaining and Derren Brown is a master magician and a true showman. I hope to continue to see more wonderfully entertaining episodes like this one.
nb: Even if I knew nothing about hypnosis, I know a good deal about what people will do for money. I've been to a lot of casino's around the world and the one thing they seem to have in common is that casino's everywhere require their employes to show their palms (palms UP) to the overhead cameras after distributing chips. ESPECIALLY when handling high denomination chips like the $500- ones Derren requested. This is required of them so that the casino can know that they are not palming chips. At 44:21, in the top right hand part of the screen, we can see the "dealer" counting out the chips and passing them to Derren. His hands are visible at all times and at no point does he turn his palms upwards. This alone tells me that they are not in a real casino. Combining that with what I know about hypnosis, led me to the conclusion written above.
Every trick in the show was basic magic. Ben was a stooge and getting the number wrong by one was, as you so clearly stated, a distraction.
Shut up you absolute idiot
I bet you're a laugh at parties
@@stephenglazer4224can you read a clearly says no actors or Stooges fool
Much respect for showing the failures as well as success. He was only one off. A split between 2 or 3 numbers would be a better gamble. And still yield good profit.
If I wanna see how you take down a casino - I'll just watch The Last Jedi, thanks mate! :D
Dominic Burke best comment I've seen in a while
much respek
Lmao
someone give this guy an Oscar already !
Ain't no one gonna talk about Ben's sweaty armpits and the way he walks
To be fair -- if someone just told me they'd 'stolen' five grand from me (AND that I was on TV) I'd be sweating and shitting myself (i.e walking that way) too!
Bruh he literally gets a call from derren nbrown and told he’s on national tv, and not only is he on he already has a camera pointed at him through his window, so he suddenly realizes he’s on tv with no time to prepare... begins to realize he’s the one who is missing 5k, and that it’s now showtime for him with everyone watching
Well, if I discovered a cameraman was filming me through my window, while being called to say that 5K had been stolen from my account - the sweat would be blasting out of my armpits.
Panic.
No there isn't.
Cocaine
When the ball landed on 10, the losing sound effect from The Price is Right played in my head...
Lmfao
Hi Ben are you are there ?
Ben: looks directly at the camera then realises and looks away.
Derren: look outside Ben Weve got a camera man outside.
Ben: oh yeah I see him now 🤣🤣
45:40 look to the left of the van. A check with 180K and Derren Brown holding it
The guy holding it was a crew member ready to give Ben the cheque when Derren won.
Charlie.Lomer It's a joke. "Reality TV" is just the name. The name doesn't make it real life... I hope you know that. Are you American? You must be...
Nick C nah I’m English just very academic so things such as sarcasm and jokes don’t really work for me
lmao nice eye
Damnnn... This was unexpected. And that skill with anticipating the ball. He is a genius for sure.
Gotta feel for the bloke left there at the end sitting like a pleb 😂
Imagine Darren Robbing people with the hypnosis xD
downright astounding! How does he do it? DB is the best!!
He is the best but this one was a set up. I’m pretty gutted in him doing it as I’m a huge fan but to many red flags in this one. Real shame he had to do this
When are we gonna see some new Derren Brown experiments on channel 4?
Tazer Urbex - Abandoned & Forgotten Places some magic would also be nice
he's testing the US market, so that's taking him away from us loyal fans. Good luck to him, deserves to get wealthy on american big bucks
Apparently it's going to be on netflix!
JHmagic1 wait how do you know that and how might someone audition
Go on his twitter and I found out that it was going to be on netflix through a interview in a article 👍🏼
@ 20.03 You didnt hear the speed on the car, you just assumed that all cars will slow down when they see a police. Then you counted down from 52 and read the policeman when you had counted down to the right number. (49)
It's all staged! But well done!
That bloke on the bridge with Derren and the cop is an absolute MELT
16:00 this would be a perfect curb your meme LMAO
Starts off with Derren sat in a TV trailer. Outside the guy's place are two TV trailers. He has to ignore the first and enter the second. What's in the first one if not Derren sat providing live commentary? The doors on the back were closed on that one too, to hide what's inside. You don't take two to a site for shooting if you don't use both OBUs (Outside broadcast units).
There were no satellite dishes visible outside the vans, so how did they receive the 'live' feed from /mainland Europe'?
25:40 "I can hear you but I can't see you' then at 25:48 he responds to a visual cue 'There you go, so...' when Ben turns to see the open doors, and Derren seems to catch himself.
C4 doesn't usually broadcast stuff that has it's gut drop on the floor.
What was Derren really up to? Retiring to a quieter existence after this so goes out by letting people feel they shouldn't follow him or believe in him? Derren?
guy sat there at the end with a big ass cheque
If this show is not scripted
Then derren is greatest person
Who unlocked human potential
It's all fake. They are actors with water-tight non-disclosure agreements. If it were feasible to 'snap hypnotise' somebody and make them do whatever you want then governments the world over would be studying this. Also there would've been at least one criminal caught using these techniques for personal gain. Because neither of these things have happened then I can only conclude this is entertainment dressed up as superpowers, nothing more.
They guy has the emotion of a 2b pencil
So close! I still appreciate it!
This ending is gonna be so impressive I swear
Edit: ...uh
I love the authenticity
The Paul Wilson segment is why casinos don't let punters touch the cards.
LOLing listening to this wild story about computers figuring out where the ball will land!
I think there would be some legal problems if he wins 175k. Casinos have some crazy rules and they didn't want to win because of that. Derren missed it on purpose 100% sure. Plus I'm not convinced he made this bet live. Could be pre-recorded also. They can't risk it being live if casino security spots those cameras or there is some technical problems.
Yes! Too risky for Derren to actually place the bet, film it, win and then put it on air. The casino management would soon work out what had happened and Derren would have been banned from ALL casinos in Europe. Casinos in the USA ban players for 'counting cards' and winning "too much" at Black Jack.
Derren stated, at the start of one of his televised shows - maybe about luck? - that he has been banned from many Casinos in the UK. He used to "sneak" into them, beginning at age 16, and use his astounding memory (techniques), ability to 'read' people, and finely honed card counting skills to win games like Black Jack. It'd be interesting to know what happened to cause many UK Casinos to ban Derren from their premises!
I think he wanted to make people think that hes not always right
This is one of the older Vegas scams, which explains why it would be carried out in europe seeing as the act is probably more known and illegal in the us. but if he had bet a bit wider over a period he would have walked away rich or busted.
an irish judge ruled no casino or betting shop is obliged to pay out anything..even if you win 1000 after losing 5000 they dont have to pay!! it happened in a casino in PJISBOROUGH DUBLIN IRELAND...he found a fault in the machine...bullshit...
In the time of "CORONAVIRUS WORLD WAR - 3" in 2020 when your own life is at the hands of a invisible pandemic it's watching Derren Brown perform amazing mind games as well as demonstrating odds of probability that breaks all barriers and provides solace and entertainment in the confines of home.Amazing.
What's with him saying "bless you" 3 times at the start? He says nothing by accident
Winston Smith be less you
Thank you, that really bothered me. I'm glad I wasn't the only one trying to figure out the manipulation behind that. I've never heard him say that, let alone repeatedly, and he's VERY anti-religious so there was some reason eh?
44:20 this is how most reaction videos look nowadays
Not sure if this is well known but he released a book a while before this was aired and wrote, in very small print the actual correct number the ball fell on, a wonderful Easter egg!
Definitely need Derren to do another magic special
JHmagic1 can’t wait
Did anyone else notice how many attendess were wearing red and black? The first girl, the "Loser" girl. Then, a lovely Black woman, short hair, wearing a string of pearls as well as red and black. 3/4 of the way through, D Brown is facing audience and over his left shoulder, a 20 something man, also wearing red and black. Mr Brown never, ever has any element "by chance".
I wish this was the full version of this cos I remember the end of it strongly hinting that this was planned or something like that
Alan Walshe I remember it ending like this but why did they have a boom mic if Ben is mic'ed already?
If you remember earlier his mic was very quiet. The film crew probably decided a boom would help people actually hear the guy.
Dunno bout the mic issue but I know that will the full version ends the same its a couple seconds longer and I remember there being something on the vans or something like that which hinted that everything happened as planned, might neccesarily been the vans might of been a sign or something but I remember there was definetly something
"i cant see you, so let me know when you get to the truck......there you go" as he climbs the steps LMAO
I know it's 5 months too late, but I just noticed that too. He says "I can't see you....there you go....are you there yet"? Lol. Clearly he could see him.
wow so many people are completely missing the point here. Darren Brown miss the number by 1 slot. To me, that is an amazing remarkable feat. This demonstrates that Darren Brown is a human being and he still can make mistakes. Yet even by being off by 1 slot in its first try demonstrate a skill that an average person can never achieve in their lifetime. Don't forget he predicted the cars speed and the number that the tennis ball that will land. Those skills, are not something an average person can ever do. Yet he still able to do time.
We live in a society where people wants things to be perfect every single time. When someone makes a mistake they cry out and complains about not being a success. Even when he succeeded there still a lot of people that is being unhappy. They will find the flaws and miss everything else that has been shown to them. That very negative moment overwrite every other achievement that has been made up to that point.
You can't ever win with critics about anything. You are dammed if you do. You are dammed if you don't. In this show, he demonstrated some absolute remarkable skills. It is something that we should take consider. Yes, he failed the big moment. Yet he is going to refund everything to that men. This demonstrates that they are taking responsibility for the people livelihood.
Fun fact , Derren Brown down this over 30 time's with different people and is only showing the one he got the closest with. I know how your little tricks are done Derren :)
LMAO! @ 2:53 he makes a gay facial joke! Haha! Cheeky, Derren!
Inner Peace I don’t know if you’d like to know five months later, but the spray paint can is ... *blowing* on him... there’s probably more layers I’m not getting, but it’s a dirty joke 😂
This was Derren's worst show ever, not because he failed but because he called someone a loser who he recognized as having a low self-esteem and then gave those negative feelings affirmation by setting her up to lose. I can't believe he did that... There's no sugar coating it. That didn't in any way help her change her attitude. He just bullied her on national television.
I usually respect what he does but that was some cocky, cold-hearted bullshit. And he always talks about how much he was bullied and called names when he was a kid... Shameful!!!
The reason he did that was because it was required by the trick. No matter who ended up with the £20, Derren was always going to claim that's how it was supposed to go. When Maz ended up with the £20 the trick ends with the winner winning and the loser losing, but if Richard had ended up with the money then he would have finished the trick by telling Maz that she's not really a loser, she just has to think positively and good things will happen, and then she would have ended up with the £20. Being mean to her was setting the audience up to feel really good about the ending if Richard had ended up with the right matchbox.
No, there's no reason to sugarcoat it. Like he said, take risks and you gain rewards more often than those who don't. The opportunities themselves become events that you are lucky to have. Where the adverse point of view sees a burden to be avoided. How nice would he be to reinforce the idea that having a crap attitude pays off as often as a positive attitude?
I remember watching this live, in Australia, as a 10 year old, absolutely freaking out that he missed by 1
6:38 My guess is that Derren has all the combinations stacked on the front sheets, and he has memorised them and peels off the extras like a double lift card trick.
Still damn amazing! One off? I wonder how many he’d get right out of 10. If only 1/10 he’d be making 3.5/1... I bet he’s closer to 6-7/10. Damn 🥇
Best show ever
Me: *watching 3 years later*
Derren: "I've took £5000 out of one of your bank accounts!"
Me: *checks bank*
@Bad Mash Congratulations, sir, you got the joke! I have your complimentary medal here! There will be a ceremony for this incredible achievement.
That was some proper shithosery with that £20
Before watching:
I'll bet 5000 pounds on single number in roulette
*TAKES 46 MINUTES*
Did nobody see Derren at the end with a check for £180,000??!?!? am i the only one who saw that
yeah not sure what that was about, where they gonna give it to him anyway or was that check there just in case Derren get's it right?
yeah, wtf, you get any clarity on this?
45:40. on the left next to the truck there is a guy with a giant check
Derren "missed" because the show did not want to pay the guy £175,000. The whole casino sequence is 100% staged, either at a phony casino or one that allowed him to film there with no real betting taking place. Derren just had to film the same bit over and over again until it came up 30 or 23 which actually wouldn't take that long as the odds are 1 in 18 of hitting either of those numbers, so, they had to film that sequence probably 50 times at an absolute maximum. It's a win-win for Derren and the producers... he LOOKS like he can predict the section, but does not have to pay out the $$$. If you DO believe that was a "live shot" and he really did get that close, or can even get remotely close to predicting where the ball will land, you must also believe Dude Perfect hit all their shots on the first attempt. Love Derren, but this was unusually weak for him.
Exactly! At least one comment finally hits it on the head! ... It's completely obviously that the end bit is staged just as much as any "win" is staged in any of his other tricks. Derren's one great contribution to entertainment magic over the last decade & a half (like Penn and Teller), has been to shift attention from the out-of-fashion "misdirection by focusing on the final pay-off" to the more interesting "misdirection by focusing on supposedly telling you how he is doing the misdirection". But you can still work Derren's real intentions out by simply focusing on the show's stage-directions: because neither Derren nor the others are that great at acting. The final silent, "pan-away" closing of this whole "bit" shows that they had already planned how to heighten the effect of Derren's "near-miss". And then not only does Derren not have to pay out... but he invests that loss by taking the psychological kudos from it into future tricks and heightening the supposed jeopardy for those later audiences!
You are absolutely right the producers didnt want to pay the guy £175,000, instead they paid him £180,000...
So, because the average person isn’t great at maths and can’t make fairly accurate predictions based on the factors mentioned, that means it’s staged?
As for them “not wanting to pay the guy £175,000,” do you really think that kind of money would make the slightest bit of difference to C4? I can’t believe I watched deal or no deal for years, no knowing C4 staged the whole thing because they obviously won’t be willing to pay £250,000 if they aren’t willing to lose £175,000.
Allowed him to film with secret hiding camera's? Yeah, okay then mate.
Kaizer Gamin Are you referring to the casino or C4 letting him film?
that look on Ben's face at the end, he was 100% sure he will get the 175 K ...... lmao
There's no way that was a real casino. The camera work was designed to obscure the fact but it was still obvious. The sound design was so fake. Obviously a very small room.
Good thing he's a lot better at russian roulette than the normal kind
Or was this the same setup, how he fired number 5 at the wall to make it seem like it was risky
Derren Brown has made really unforgettable stuff in the past. This... oh, how I WISH I could forget it.
this finally shows us that derren is actually human!!
No if he got the money he would get sued. It was done on purpose. I believed him until this episode. The vid at the end was so scripted to look like it was real
@@ProudSkittles This isn't AMERICA where everyone Sue's eachother over the stupidest things..
@@ProudSkittles it was so scripted. I've just left a comment that describes what I think.
@@DaveTasteat the end, someone is standing with a cheque for 180000 can't believe noone else has commented about this yet. Take a look
Because of this upload, I don't wanna go to the cottage where there's no wifi, we're leaving in now. :|
Derren Brown will be our next product - congratulations. =) :D
Just more proof that it is impossible to win at a casino, they know what they're doing
Also this is 100% staged
Yup for sure this one was. Real shame as he’s got loads of talent but this one has made me think less of him
"using physics to predict where the ball will land" my ass. total bullshit. also for the retards saying he missed on purpose, that was probably the 50th take.
@@Shotgunz999 the guy that developed the system is called Edward O. Thorpe, he also developed card counting
I used derren browns method in the book to memorize massive amounts of information. I can memorize a deck of cards easy. I've done 4decks before.
The "producer" at the end convinced me this was the plan after all. Simply winning is too easy, predictable, and boring. Getting the number NEXT to it, is way more captivating, maker better TV, and still shows insane skill.
Jack Perry that’s sort of true actually
He did exactly the same thing in an earlier episode of Tricks of the Mind.
Jack Perry -'lnsane' if it's the truth.
Jack Perry or he just missed it
Indeed.
I remember watching this when it was live, and like everyone else I was waiting for some kind of live twist......Then when it ended abruptly me and the missus just looked at each other wondering WTF just happened 🤣
He lost on purpose to send a positive message to everyone watching. He was very clever in how the programme ended if you reflect on it and what had happened and why.
WTF 102views n 103likes.......derren hipnotized TH-cam team😂😂😂
*hypnotized
Incredible, number 30 is next to derren’s number 8 !!
How did Derren know that Ben had £5000 in the bank?
the first time one of derrens stunts didnt work, was it deliberate to show that derren is human and doesn't always win to help boost everyones confidence that it isn't staged because you always assume hes always in control and will always win. Or was it a deliberate subconscious message that he intentially didnt chose the right number because gambling is a mugs game and it really is down to luck..... The house always wins
Man already knew he was getting the call, he was sweating before he even got the phone call. Look at his shirt...who does that just sitting at home on the couch?
Fun fact: 90% of gamblers quit right before they’re about to win
24:20 how sweaty is he. What did he just do?
Found out he was on live television maybe?
found out he lost 5 grand
He was just watching cops
I wouldn’t usually be standing for this…
A bit cheeky Derren 😳