Wow! I just mentioned to another commenter that this one was tied by Cliff Stringer in the FFF Pattern Encyclopedia. So you're spot on- this was definitely one of your uncle's patterns. :-)
You know Jim, the plain old coachman, from sometime in the 1800s has probably spawned more patterns than any I can think of. And of course the original, was a wet fly. :-)
Good morning Matt. Enjoyed the video. It’s nice to see you don’t edit out the parts where things don’t go according to plan. Helps knowing it just doesn’t happen to me. 😀. We are just coming out of a cold snap. Woke yesterday to -33C but temps have moderated to -20C this morning. Plan is to head south this week and forecast is for mild temps while travelling. Hope to be back in the desert by Friday. Take care
Holy cow! -33C is brutal. (Being American I just had to look up the conversion. And yep, that's still a brutal -27F.) Fun fact- Fahrenheit and Celsius are the same at -40 degrees. Anyway, I'm about past the point of where I start a video over when I screw it up. Ie, tomorrow's fly has a couple of blunders. :-) I hope you make it down to the desert with no issues!
Pretty fly, but I never could understand why anyone would want quill wings on a fly that they actually planned to fish with. Good for ONE fish, at best.
I've wondered that too because you're right, the don't last long. And what's more, sometimes they end up being tippet twisters and after a couple of false casts, you leader is all funky. But I guess they do sometimes look pretty. :-)
If you tie your wings in similar to using wood duck breast feathers for a Catskill style dry (ie pointing forward and then pull back and up) you can get the correct size (length of the shank), will sit better, be easier to tie in, and won't be in the way when tying your body.
Great tip, thank you! And you know, I'm pretty sure I've done them that way before. Don't know why I didn't remember it on this one. I appreciate the note!
Good video Matt! It's always good to see that you leave in the mishaps. Very relatable. Could you not tie in the wings after the 2nd herl? Might be worth a try.
nice, but missing the ribbing over the floss, that bit of shine is important. A note aside, the black and white tail kind of bring it to its original recipe which asked for wood duck fibers for the tail, not golden pheasant tippets as it is costumary to tie it nowadays. I've tied both versions and let me tell you, wood duck tail fished a lot more than tippets
Cool to hear that! Cliff Stringer tied this one for the Federation of Fly Fisher's Pattern Encyclopedia and it didn't mention a rib but I could see t hat adding a touch of shine to it. Thanks for the note!
I know Tom, why not?? The Royal Wulff has spawned into a Tennessee Wulff (green floss) and a NC Wulff (yellow floss). So I'm sure you could make the band any color you want. :-)
Why not black? Bet it would beat a traditional Royal Coachman all hollow if there was a hatch of large flying ants. However, I’m not a big fan of the traditional use of duck wings vs. Wulff style hair wings. Even if you set the wings perfectly, there is a good chance of your fly whirling in the air & corkscrewing your tippet before it lands. They do look cool though. .1 to 30! Sweet! Btw: Have you ever tried tying or fishing a flatwing streamer? You might want to check them out. I can send you some links if interested. I was seriously considering tying a batch of them to test in freshwater but then my back told me no more fishing, so it didn’t happen. They work great on saltwater fish, so I’m thinking they would be great in fresh too.
You know Bob, I think you're right that this might be a tippet twister. Especially with this one I just tied with the wings a little bigger than they should have been. As for flatwing streamers, I don't think I ever have. So sure, send me a link and I'll check it out. Just use my personal email. I still haven't fixed my savageflies.com domain yet. If you don't have it, my personal is mo@matt92.com
i love tying variations! because i usually never actually have the materials i need!
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Good looking fly matt tks 😊
This one does look pretty fun! Thank you for sharing! Tight lines my friend! 😎🎣
Well thank you Zach! I appreciate the note my friend. :-)
Nice variation, I always enjoy trying different things with patterns. Have a great day Matt!
Well thank you! I appreciate the note my friend. :-)
Neat looking variation. Thanks for sharing
Another nice one Matt, thanks for sharing have a blessed day my friend.
Appreciate it! Hope you're having a great new year my friend. :-)
That is a cool looking fly, Matt
Definitely need to tie up a few of those
Thanks for the video
You're welcome Dave! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
Tough tie Matt! I definitly enjoyed watching you do this one. Thanks 👌
Appreciate it Jim!
Thanks Matt!
Nice looking variation you've inspired me to do that long before this video 😊
Wow, thank you Brian! I appreciate the kind words my friend. :-)
Good morning Matt. Thanks for posting this great looking fly.
Appreciate it Daryl! Hope you're having a great new year my friend. :-)
Love this fly,
Beauty job!
I like it. Don't know if I've seen that variation before, but it makes sense. Thank you for sharing.
You're welcome! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@SavageFlies You're welcome
Nice variation Matt. Like the LA tail. Have a good one.
Appreciate it Joe! Hope you're having a great new year my friend. :-)
Looks like one of my Uncle Wayne’s patterns (Clifford Wayne Stringer). He was an amazing fly fisherman. Thanks for sharing
Wow! I just mentioned to another commenter that this one was tied by Cliff Stringer in the FFF Pattern Encyclopedia. So you're spot on- this was definitely one of your uncle's patterns. :-)
Thanks, Matt. I can see that Black Coachman, tied as a wet, making it into my box.
You know Jim, the plain old coachman, from sometime in the 1800s has probably spawned more patterns than any I can think of. And of course the original, was a wet fly. :-)
Neat looking fly
Very good idea, i have the Royal and the green and now try also the black 👍🏻
And don't forget with a yellow body! I think they call that a Carolina Coachman (or Carolina Wulff if it has a calftail wing).
Yes, thanks i shall try also yellow 😊
Good morning Matt☕️☕️
Nicely done thanks and hope all is well👍
All is well here! Almost a foot of snow Sunday night so we've been homebound for a couple of days. But back to work in the morning. :-)
Good morning Matt. Enjoyed the video. It’s nice to see you don’t edit out the parts where things don’t go according to plan. Helps knowing it just doesn’t happen to me. 😀. We are just coming out of a cold snap. Woke yesterday to -33C but temps have moderated to -20C this morning. Plan is to head south this week and forecast is for mild temps while travelling. Hope to be back in the desert by Friday. Take care
Holy cow! -33C is brutal. (Being American I just had to look up the conversion. And yep, that's still a brutal -27F.) Fun fact- Fahrenheit and Celsius are the same at -40 degrees. Anyway, I'm about past the point of where I start a video over when I screw it up. Ie, tomorrow's fly has a couple of blunders. :-) I hope you make it down to the desert with no issues!
Good day Matt, nice fly, love the facter , that we all have material falt's. Is the human way.
Appreciate the note Floyd!
Thanks for the inspiration. Tied this one but with a calf tail wing..no slip wing material. This fly looks like a mud daubler wasp to me.
Nice job Matt. I have issues with Herl breaking as well!
Me too Todd. All the time!
Pretty fly, but I never could understand why anyone would want quill wings on a fly that they actually planned to fish with.
Good for ONE fish, at best.
I've wondered that too because you're right, the don't last long. And what's more, sometimes they end up being tippet twisters and after a couple of false casts, you leader is all funky. But I guess they do sometimes look pretty. :-)
Hey my friend I did one of them my did not come out that good hope you have a great new year
Well thank you Wayne! Happy new year to you too my friend.
If you tie your wings in similar to using wood duck breast feathers for a Catskill style dry (ie pointing forward and then pull back and up) you can get the correct size (length of the shank), will sit better, be easier to tie in, and won't be in the way when tying your body.
Great tip, thank you! And you know, I'm pretty sure I've done them that way before. Don't know why I didn't remember it on this one. I appreciate the note!
Good video Matt! It's always good to see that you leave in the mishaps. Very relatable. Could you not tie in the wings after the 2nd herl? Might be worth a try.
Love the coachman fly. Great tie. Thx Matt
Appreciate it Clyde! Hope you're having a great new year my friend. :-)
The California Coachman has a golden or yellow floss middle,female trout go for it like Robert Redford,fer sure.
nice, but missing the ribbing over the floss, that bit of shine is important. A note aside, the black and white tail kind of bring it to its original recipe which asked for wood duck fibers for the tail, not golden pheasant tippets as it is costumary to tie it nowadays. I've tied both versions and let me tell you, wood duck tail fished a lot more than tippets
Cool to hear that! Cliff Stringer tied this one for the Federation of Fly Fisher's Pattern Encyclopedia and it didn't mention a rib but I could see t hat adding a touch of shine to it. Thanks for the note!
Nice variation! It got me to thinking about some other possibilities. Chartruese? Fluorescent pink? Blue/purple? Thanks Matt!
I know Tom, why not?? The Royal Wulff has spawned into a Tennessee Wulff (green floss) and a NC Wulff (yellow floss). So I'm sure you could make the band any color you want. :-)
@ I’m thinking the whole fly in a color variation!
Why not black? Bet it would beat a traditional Royal Coachman all hollow if there was a hatch of large flying ants. However, I’m not a big fan of the traditional use of duck wings vs. Wulff style hair wings. Even if you set the wings perfectly, there is a good chance of your fly whirling in the air & corkscrewing your tippet before it lands. They do look cool though.
.1 to 30! Sweet! Btw: Have you ever tried tying or fishing a flatwing streamer? You might want to check them out. I can send you some links if interested. I was seriously considering tying a batch of them to test in freshwater but then my back told me no more fishing, so it didn’t happen. They work great on saltwater fish, so I’m thinking they would be great in fresh too.
You know Bob, I think you're right that this might be a tippet twister. Especially with this one I just tied with the wings a little bigger than they should have been. As for flatwing streamers, I don't think I ever have. So sure, send me a link and I'll check it out. Just use my personal email. I still haven't fixed my savageflies.com domain yet. If you don't have it, my personal is mo@matt92.com
What? You messed with the sacred Royal Coachman? I bet this black version works just fine!
Haha! And in some cases, it might even work better. :-)