You're right about most online julia/michelle players, but most of those hopkicks from mad axes were timed pretty well. He'd duck a high move then punish with a hopkick, or when he baited for the asuka/jun player to raw tag. He even punished Jun's F+2 with a hopkick at one point instead of using the typical 1,2 ten frame punisher like most players often do lol.
And 4:29. I'm lately practicing with Jun and Asuka and I regularly catch the opponent face down away with f2. It always reminds me of Kakashi's rear end attack on Naruto.
Thank you plus what people don't know is alot of tekken players are trying to get into injustice so it could be rust but in the end online is for everyone to enjoy and not take to seriously but good stuff from both players :)
Well said. All characters are capable of doing good, all it needs is someone who is patient enough to master that character. I also totally agree with what you said in the reply to ZayZay459.
??. . Lee/Violet are still used heavy online. . . but the rotation switches up online. . . one month i fight a shit load of Lei's onine. . and then the next month people use Raven or Murdok like crazy on there teams. . it just depends who's the flavor of the month online
Why do I keep running into comments saying, "Changs are scrubby and cheap"? And my favorite one, "All he does is hopkick" "He's scrubby because he uses hopkicks too much". If his opponent whiffs why wouldn't he hopkick them? You expect him to jab punish him when Jun whiffs or does f+2? I'm not an expert, but I'm not stupid to embarrass myself by posting stupid comments. God people...THINK! btw, xMadAxesx, you're my hero. I want to be like you when I grow up lol.
But if they whiff I'm going to use a launcher and would I risk an i15 hopkick or and i16 f+2,1 that sometimes won't connect of axis, her ss+3+4 is a bad idea vs the Kazamas as their f+2 punishes it consistently, b+1+2 is really slow so good luck whiff punishing with that, ws+1 for her duck punishing does less damage and wasn't willing to connect d,df+1,4,1 at the start on a 3 bar and qcf+2 is i15 but more realistically i18 with perfect execution (d 1f df 1f f 1 f and then the 15f animation).
Yes you are I asked the guy you were trying to pose to be and he was pissed and when you click on the channel the link ends in mashupmz, nice try. Yeah you could upload anyones replay it's easily done.
Can you please post the link to this so called tier list? I've seen the tier list from Korea and Japan and both rate her just a little higher than the middle of the pack. While everyone else agrees that she is very quick and unpredictable. If you're defeating a xiaoyu player just like that, then that person is really bad.
% means nothing. Fight a good jack that knows the match up. S - Nina, Bruce, DevilKaz A+ - Kaz, Heihachi, DJ, Fng, Bob, AK A - Drag, Jin, Steve, Bryan, J6, Law, Lei, Paul, Chreddy, King, Marduk, JC, Lili, Ganryu, Leo, Jinpachi Lars B - Anna, Yoshimitsu, Lee, Hwo, Wang, Raven, Roger, Bears, Zaf, Miguel, Jun, Ogre C - Baek, Asuka, Xiao, Alisa This can change though but every offline korean puts alisa and xiao are bottom.
Okay, then send me the link to the right list?? The list that I'm looking at is the only list that I can find. I've fought a lot of Jack 6 players higher than 80%. Still no problem.
You really can't get mad at someone who keeps doing the same move. If your good enough you can figure out how the dude plays, or even figure out the flaw in the string. Its a real good game, its not like theres infinites, its all mind games
I would say the tier list is based on the basic bread and butter of each character. Japanese, Korean or high level players whatever.... I've learnt that not many people are capable of being detached and impartial. People who create the tier list have preference to favourites. The mishimas have probably only been given top spots because of ewgf. But a good player who learns all the creative possibilities of Lei, Yoshimitsu, Hwoarang, Zafina could destroy those Mishima players.
Mobile is confusing. But yeah I guess I did bash. But to be fair, publishers with Jun and Asuka's styles are just not fun. They're limited in options and usually slow. Personally I think the best publishers are the Mishima's and the William's. And about the consoles, I play through psn and Jesus does it take FOREVER for a promotion match. No matter how many times I win, it just won't give it to me.
Sadly no, I wish it was but in the recent tier list she is rated top 5 worst characters and everyone agrees she is trash compared to the top tiers, Imo she isn't top 5 worst I would rate her low mid but 90% agree she is with the others saying she is close, all you have to do is turtle her and its gg.
Also, Dr B, Alisa, Yoshimitsu and Asuka on the bottom of the List? Haha, this is a very bad list since it's all about personal preference. This game is really balanced right now so the tier list does not mean anything anyway. :P
That's like saying that a Mishima player clinging on to EWGF is considered scrubby. Sure, I'm a DJ scrub, but you saying that just proves that you're WAY too biased to the Japanese/Koreans.
Hey I'm going to hopkick to punish or if I see them whif and it isn't my fault the jun player could block it, I will abuse what they aren't reaction to. Tekkens about abusing the opponents weakness maybe you should try it instead of complaining about of peoples playstyle, as people can tell you I play nothing like this. Btw you obviously don't know about the changs tech b+3,4 nc just frame that I was trying to get.
you obviously don't know alot about Changs, since you don't know alot about tekken, no character in this game is cheap, if you want a cheap character go to mvc3 and look at the infinites.
You don't know anything about changs if you are calling their movelist scrubby as fuck, if it was they would be top tier and you haven't checked the frames of them have you, they are one of the most unsafe characters.
Ohhh, So this is someone's opinion? Then this list is not accurate. Nina on the top? Zafina, Lei, Ganryu, Orgres and Yoshimitsu are better than Xiaoyu, Baek, Asuka? I agree to a certain extent that Alisa is kinda bad, But the rest? Please! The Pro Japanese players have placed Xiaoyu and Asuka in the middle with Lily. So, no list is actually accurate. It all depends on your skill.
Well said good sir. I love the tekken games but it attracts some of the most pathetic assholes. You get the childish turds online who spam Bryan Fury and Marshall Law lows, spam solo Paul, Hwoarang and Bryan Fury. They talk shit if you win and talk shit if you lose. Then you get the so called elitists who think they are something special because they play at quite a high level. Very insular mentality.
"so is changs' hopkicks (as well as every move in their list)", don't ever call any characters movelist scrubby, you just proved to us that you are a scrub. So what you are saying it's not ok for me to punish whiffed moves with a good whiff punish move, but the person constantly whiffing isn't a scrub in your eyes. I would love to have your gt/psn to see how everyone can criticize you.
Btw you won't face me because you know I don't play like that, only vs complete idiots that wont try to track my obvious ss with f+4 or stop doing m h non jailing moves that I am ducking, btw check his wtf he boosted with a dupe account so of course he's going to be bad and eat launchers for days or hopkicks XD, easy to judge someone from one replay when you don't upload any yourself, how about I specifically for your upload matches vs good players then you'll see do I hopkick spam.
If you're calling me shit all, why don't you face me (don't even say you won't because changs are op as I'll beat you with ling who is in the top 5 worst characters). I'll say this like I say to everyone complaining about anyone, upload some of your matches and let us criticize you and then you can criticize. How come when a korean won a t6 tourney wiith lili by ss hopkicking muche more than me got praise but a t6 julia player did the same in a tourney and got complained about.
Also, Changs' hop kicks are launcher punishable, unlike Lili's, King's, and so on. Do something about it if you hate it. Oh yeah, wait, Mad Axes used them correctly, hence they worked.
![Tag Combo Breakdowns: Michelle/Jun [TTT2]](/img/n.gif)
Lol at 3:54 when the counter doesn't work. It's like Asuka is going "Strike a pose."
I still play this game like it over tekken 7
Best Tekken ever dude
Pleadian Renegade FACTS!
The changs are really tough to beat
You're right about most online julia/michelle players, but most of those hopkicks from mad axes were timed pretty well. He'd duck a high move then punish with a hopkick, or when he baited for the asuka/jun player to raw tag. He even punished Jun's F+2 with a hopkick at one point instead of using the typical 1,2 ten frame punisher like most players often do lol.
amazing games ladies😊!
And 4:29. I'm lately practicing with Jun and Asuka and I regularly catch the opponent face down away with f2. It always reminds me of Kakashi's rear end attack on Naruto.
Thank you plus what people don't know is alot of tekken players are trying to get into injustice so it could be rust but in the end online is for everyone to enjoy and not take to seriously but good stuff from both players :)
Well said. All characters are capable of doing good, all it needs is someone who is patient enough to master that character. I also totally agree with what you said in the reply to ZayZay459.
I like all 4 my main being Asuka & sometimes Jun and Julia in T5 on down. Very good match!
By the way, What do you mean every offline korean puts Alisa and Xiaoyu at bottom? Was this list based on offline mode? O.o
??. . Lee/Violet are still used heavy online. . . but the rotation switches up online. . . one month i fight a shit load of Lei's onine. . and then the next month people use Raven or Murdok like crazy on there teams. . it just depends who's the flavor of the month online
Dayum!!! Them combos of Michelle and Julia tho!!!
Ling as in Ling Xiaoyu in top 5 worst characters? Please tell me that's personal opinion...
Mad Axes sure knows when to hopkick at the right time. Great matches. Hope my Ogre team makes into one of your videos, JR.
Good stuff MADAXES-you got that punish game on lock.
I see I'm watching this again haha.. Well I wanted to say I enjoy Julz / Chelle & Sue / Jun matchups.. They're my favourite🤗
Very nice. And don't worry what these guys think. If they faced you, they would understand than giving them the details.
Why do I keep running into comments saying, "Changs are scrubby and cheap"? And my favorite one, "All he does is hopkick" "He's scrubby because he uses hopkicks too much". If his opponent whiffs why wouldn't he hopkick them? You expect him to jab punish him when Jun whiffs or does f+2? I'm not an expert, but I'm not stupid to embarrass myself by posting stupid comments. God people...THINK! btw, xMadAxesx, you're my hero. I want to be like you when I grow up lol.
Well thata one combo I will be using once I start with Jaycee and Michelle. But it was an ok match I guess....
*that's
But if they whiff I'm going to use a launcher and would I risk an i15 hopkick or and i16 f+2,1 that sometimes won't connect of axis, her ss+3+4 is a bad idea vs the Kazamas as their f+2 punishes it consistently, b+1+2 is really slow so good luck whiff punishing with that, ws+1 for her duck punishing does less damage and wasn't willing to connect d,df+1,4,1 at the start on a 3 bar and qcf+2 is i15 but more realistically i18 with perfect execution (d 1f df 1f f 1 f and then the 15f animation).
i love the cowgirl outfits of julia and michelle
Think you're looking at the wrong list, bottom 5 are Dr.b Alisa Bears Jun and Xiao and top 5 are Mishimas, lars, bruce, Nina, Bob
Yes you are I asked the guy you were trying to pose to be and he was pissed and when you click on the channel the link ends in mashupmz, nice try. Yeah you could upload anyones replay it's easily done.
Kane and Kayyal?
Punishing Jun/Asuka 101; starring Changs. The hopkicks are their best punishers so I´m not complaining... pretty methodical in this matchup.
Why is it almost nobody actually battles in the first stage? I love that song and nobody ever picks that stage. ;_;
Can you please post the link to this so called tier list? I've seen the tier list from Korea and Japan and both rate her just a little higher than the middle of the pack. While everyone else agrees that she is very quick and unpredictable. If you're defeating a xiaoyu player just like that, then that person is really bad.
% means nothing. Fight a good jack that knows the match up.
S - Nina, Bruce, DevilKaz
A+ - Kaz, Heihachi, DJ, Fng, Bob, AK
A - Drag, Jin, Steve, Bryan, J6, Law, Lei, Paul, Chreddy, King, Marduk, JC, Lili, Ganryu, Leo, Jinpachi Lars
B - Anna, Yoshimitsu, Lee, Hwo, Wang, Raven, Roger, Bears, Zaf, Miguel, Jun, Ogre
C - Baek, Asuka, Xiao, Alisa
This can change though but every offline korean puts alisa and xiao are bottom.
Hopkick when you see them whiff or throw out a -15+ move.
Okay, then send me the link to the right list?? The list that I'm looking at is the only list that I can find.
I've fought a lot of Jack 6 players higher than 80%. Still no problem.
You really can't get mad at someone who keeps doing the same move. If your good enough you can figure out how the dude plays, or even figure out the flaw in the string. Its a real good game, its not like theres infinites, its all mind games
Its funny how many time newY3ARS gets whiff punished in these matches, mad axes just knew that Kazama team too well.
I would say the tier list is based on the basic bread and butter of each character. Japanese, Korean or high level players whatever.... I've learnt that not many people are capable of being detached and impartial. People who create the tier list have preference to favourites. The mishimas have probably only been given top spots because of ewgf. But a good player who learns all the creative possibilities of Lei, Yoshimitsu, Hwoarang, Zafina could destroy those Mishima players.
Great match
Wow okay the Changs are definitely not scrubby. There's a reason not many people use them. Gg madaxes
I'll upload replays to prove it then
Mobile is confusing. But yeah I guess I did bash. But to be fair, publishers with Jun and Asuka's styles are just not fun. They're limited in options and usually slow. Personally I think the best publishers are the Mishima's and the William's. And about the consoles, I play through psn and Jesus does it take FOREVER for a promotion match. No matter how many times I win, it just won't give it to me.
Keep in mind that you need a good winning streak, and your opponent needs to have the same rank as you.
Michelle and Jaycee's hopkicks piss me off so much ugh.
Alot and about 99% of them were punishes. Don't worry I don't actually play like this against people who know not to throw stuff out at a distance.
Seems like everyone is running Jun with Asuka. I'm so glad I drop Jun off my team and replace her with Lee
Sadly no, I wish it was but in the recent tier list she is rated top 5 worst characters and everyone agrees she is trash compared to the top tiers, Imo she isn't top 5 worst I would rate her low mid but 90% agree she is with the others saying she is close, all you have to do is turtle her and its gg.
This. You tell him.
Amen 8:22 11:49
Lol at paper gangsta , his Julia is average not exactly a Chanel or 200won
Also, Dr B, Alisa, Yoshimitsu and Asuka on the bottom of the List? Haha, this is a very bad list since it's all about personal preference. This game is really balanced right now so the tier list does not mean anything anyway. :P
That's like saying that a Mishima player clinging on to EWGF is considered scrubby. Sure, I'm a DJ scrub, but you saying that just proves that you're WAY too biased to the Japanese/Koreans.
Negócio parece Evo de tanto combo
Hey I'm going to hopkick to punish or if I see them whif and it isn't my fault the jun player could block it, I will abuse what they aren't reaction to. Tekkens about abusing the opponents weakness maybe you should try it instead of complaining about of peoples playstyle, as people can tell you I play nothing like this. Btw you obviously don't know about the changs tech b+3,4 nc just frame that I was trying to get.
This comes from you who won@t even fight me as you got destroyed last time.
Xingyi vs aikido. Changs vs kazama.
Is Michelle Chinese?
BritneyJean half Chinese and half Native American
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How is she chinese? Do u know the father?
@@mapuanindigenous3982 *c h a n g*
Steve is not cheap, my husband is cheap!
-StudBuddha
It's called punishing learn it. What you're saying is I should 1,2 punch instead of launching him XD.
I might wanna punish Lars's u/f+3 with EWGF :3
id sweep either of the players in a match. op shall deliver when i get my ps3 back working.
I'm not mash up wtf
you obviously don't know alot about Changs, since you don't know alot about tekken, no character in this game is cheap, if you want a cheap character go to mvc3 and look at the infinites.
Steve is not cheap my husband is not
-StudBuddha
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Changs vs Kazamas.
You don't know anything about changs if you are calling their movelist scrubby as fuck, if it was they would be top tier and you haven't checked the frames of them have you, they are one of the most unsafe characters.
People who have no movement disappoint me.
Nathan Sy shut up loser
xMADAXESx your amazing
ling vs jack 6 then you'll see.
Not trolling just telling the truth
Before u say
Jaycee*
Ohhh, So this is someone's opinion? Then this list is not accurate. Nina on the top? Zafina, Lei, Ganryu, Orgres and Yoshimitsu are better than Xiaoyu, Baek, Asuka? I agree to a certain extent that Alisa is kinda bad, But the rest? Please! The Pro Japanese players have placed Xiaoyu and Asuka in the middle with Lily. So, no list is actually accurate. It all depends on your skill.
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Well said good sir. I love the tekken games but it attracts some of the most pathetic assholes.
You get the childish turds online who spam Bryan Fury and Marshall Law lows, spam solo Paul, Hwoarang and Bryan Fury. They talk shit if you win and talk shit if you lose. Then you get the so called elitists who think they are something special because they play at quite a high level. Very insular mentality.
Uf +4 ,3 toooo good
THOSE CHANG PLAYERS. O.O
Joshua Takahashi I'm a lot better chang Player 😂😂😂
i agree, Tekken is a good game with a horrible comunity. Everyone bragging about how good they are like people actually gave a F**K
and İ thought İ knew jacee...
Hi mash up! Yeah everyone knows you are him.
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Shhh they can't read punish XD.
"so is changs' hopkicks (as well as every move in their list)", don't ever call any characters movelist scrubby, you just proved to us that you are a scrub. So what you are saying it's not ok for me to punish whiffed moves with a good whiff punish move, but the person constantly whiffing isn't a scrub in your eyes. I would love to have your gt/psn to see how everyone can criticize you.
Btw you won't face me because you know I don't play like that, only vs complete idiots that wont try to track my obvious ss with f+4 or stop doing m h non jailing moves that I am ducking, btw check his wtf he boosted with a dupe account so of course he's going to be bad and eat launchers for days or hopkicks XD, easy to judge someone from one replay when you don't upload any yourself, how about I specifically for your upload matches vs good players then you'll see do I hopkick spam.
hmm lol mad axes was using hop kicks well.. but still was abit overused
Gg xMADAXEx
Sì ma è un continuo le stesse mosse da parte di Michelle e Jaycee... che noia. Spam.
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If you're calling me shit all, why don't you face me (don't even say you won't because changs are op as I'll beat you with ling who is in the top 5 worst characters). I'll say this like I say to everyone complaining about anyone, upload some of your matches and let us criticize you and then you can criticize. How come when a korean won a t6 tourney wiith lili by ss hopkicking muche more than me got praise but a t6 julia player did the same in a tourney and got complained about.
Also, Changs' hop kicks are launcher punishable, unlike Lili's, King's, and so on. Do something about it if you hate it. Oh yeah, wait, Mad Axes used them correctly, hence they worked.
I find it awkward that I main Jun and just started playing with Michelle yesterday only to wake up to this video ._.
Steve is not cheap my husband is not
-StudBuddha