Sir, Abrahmic dialogues have been all about monotheism, mostly between 3 branches of Abrahmic faith. But,the tragedy has been that they have never been at peace with one another. Surprisingly none of the 3 ever think about this dilemma which started withthe origin of monotheism and continuing till date.
If you look at history of the islamicate world you will find many evidences of Abrahamics living in peace with each other living and learning from each other, especially in the academic and mystical spheres
Am I mistaken by what you said??? Did you say to recite the ritual prayers in our own language...??? Correct me if I heard wrong. If you did say it, you are seriously misguided. Do not use your intellect when Allah swt ruled something and Prophet ruled something we cannot go against it as Allah swt created the perfect religion. The Quran and Sunnah are above our opnions. No scholar can rule otherwise. The precedents been set by the Prophet, the Sahabah, The Tabi and Tabi Tabiyeen...accept it. I will not accept a letter or word to be changed from the Quran and Sunnah. Forever wearing my burka
A part of the prayer is left to our own discretion, this includes but is not limited to praises and prayers in ruqu, sujud and tashahud. There is no obligation upon us, to follow set utterances. Neither did the prophet (upon whom be peace) command us that and neither did the early muslims understand it to be so. Infact you will find evidences of people praising and making supplications in prayer according to their circumstances and needs at the time
@ahmedisl8 No your wrong. The Salaf all prayed in Arabic, and any thing dua you want to make your language say it in your heart. Do not try to change 1400yrs of islamic scholarship. Somehow after 1400yrs you genius suddenly discover the truth...no way. The pious predecessors knew more hadith then Google sheikh. We do as they do. You spreading misinformation. Why are you soo lazy to learn Arabic and recite. It's soo easy. You can do your personal dual in your own language after the ritual prayer like anyone else. I seen jewish Rabbis setting up meetings where they discuss how to get muslims to change and reform their religion. This looks like one of their ideas 💡. Never will we change a letter let alone a word of our faith based on some radom academic and his opnions. We have a beautiful Islamic tradition which we will never change. I have sakinah and tranquility in my prayers even in Arabic. Just do daily dhilkr specially in Tajjud time, reflect and dua in your heart and watch your ritual prayers will get better. Allah swt chose the language of Quran and formal rituals to be done in Arabic to preserve our religion. It's done a good job of that. Often we pick hadiths not knowing the timeline of hadiths and another hadith overrides it. Like for example, before sahabah use to be able to look around and give salams in the ritual prayers. One Sahabi left to go Yemen to teach the people during that time. After Prophet (saw) ordered that no one talks and looks around in prayer. So the Sahabi came back from Yemen not knowing the new ruling. And continued talking in prayer. All the other Sahabis looked at him shocked at what he was doing. He wondered why they looking at him strangely. They told him the Prophet Muhammad (saw) ruling which was new to him as that they did not have phones to tell each other of the change. So if you read hadiths, you need to know science of hadiths. Otherwise you cannot extract ruling from it. Forever wearing my burka
@@salampakistan3691 you clearly are not here for dialogue and are just reiterating dogmas without trying to understand what is being said. And you discredit and demean the knowledge of those you disagree with. And insinuating the existence of "jewish conspiracies" is one of them. Try to, with complete ikhlas understand the arguments of the other side without citing your dogmas to protect the dogmas.
@ahmedisl8 What you trying to say, a dialogue does not mean me accepting everything you say. Also somethings there is no dialogue in. To say they up for dialogue is to say maybe there could be be another way. They Quran and Sunnah, they are obligatories and sunnahs of Islam. They are not up for dialogue. Either you accept or face the consequences in the hereafter. I do not accept any radom weirdos to come with their hairy fairy and whimsical opinions. We need Quran and Sunnah and consensus of the 1400yrs of islamic scholarship. Radom acadamic Abdul cannot change 1400yrs of Islam just because he has a degree and PhD in some western school
Please continue these dialogues between the two respected religious scholars. I love to hear them have such insightful dialogues.
Sir, Abrahmic dialogues have been all about monotheism, mostly between 3 branches of Abrahmic faith.
But,the tragedy has been that they have never been at peace with one another.
Surprisingly none of the 3 ever think about this dilemma which started withthe origin of monotheism and continuing till
date.
If you look at history of the islamicate world you will find many evidences of Abrahamics living in peace with each other living and learning from each other, especially in the academic and mystical spheres
Am I mistaken by what you said??? Did you say to recite the ritual prayers in our own language...??? Correct me if I heard wrong.
If you did say it, you are seriously misguided. Do not use your intellect when Allah swt ruled something and Prophet ruled something we cannot go against it as Allah swt created the perfect religion. The Quran and Sunnah are above our opnions.
No scholar can rule otherwise. The precedents been set by the Prophet, the Sahabah, The Tabi and Tabi Tabiyeen...accept it.
I will not accept a letter or word to be changed from the Quran and Sunnah.
Forever wearing my burka
😂😂😂😂 if you don’t understand what you are saying, it’s never going to be as meaningful or as powerful. Stop being ignorant.
A part of the prayer is left to our own discretion, this includes but is not limited to praises and prayers in ruqu, sujud and tashahud. There is no obligation upon us, to follow set utterances. Neither did the prophet (upon whom be peace) command us that and neither did the early muslims understand it to be so. Infact you will find evidences of people praising and making supplications in prayer according to their circumstances and needs at the time
@ahmedisl8
No your wrong. The Salaf all prayed in Arabic, and any thing dua you want to make your language say it in your heart.
Do not try to change 1400yrs of islamic scholarship. Somehow after 1400yrs you genius suddenly discover the truth...no way. The pious predecessors knew more hadith then Google sheikh. We do as they do. You spreading misinformation. Why are you soo lazy to learn Arabic and recite. It's soo easy. You can do your personal dual in your own language after the ritual prayer like anyone else.
I seen jewish Rabbis setting up meetings where they discuss how to get muslims to change and reform their religion. This looks like one of their ideas 💡. Never will we change a letter let alone a word of our faith based on some radom academic and his opnions. We have a beautiful Islamic tradition which we will never change.
I have sakinah and tranquility in my prayers even in Arabic. Just do daily dhilkr specially in Tajjud time, reflect and dua in your heart and watch your ritual prayers will get better. Allah swt chose the language of Quran and formal rituals to be done in Arabic to preserve our religion. It's done a good job of that.
Often we pick hadiths not knowing the timeline of hadiths and another hadith overrides it. Like for example, before sahabah use to be able to look around and give salams in the ritual prayers. One Sahabi left to go Yemen to teach the people during that time. After Prophet (saw) ordered that no one talks and looks around in prayer. So the Sahabi came back from Yemen not knowing the new ruling. And continued talking in prayer. All the other Sahabis looked at him shocked at what he was doing. He wondered why they looking at him strangely. They told him the Prophet Muhammad (saw) ruling which was new to him as that they did not have phones to tell each other of the change. So if you read hadiths, you need to know science of hadiths. Otherwise you cannot extract ruling from it.
Forever wearing my burka
@@salampakistan3691 you clearly are not here for dialogue and are just reiterating dogmas without trying to understand what is being said.
And you discredit and demean the knowledge of those you disagree with. And insinuating the existence of "jewish conspiracies" is one of them.
Try to, with complete ikhlas understand the arguments of the other side without citing your dogmas to protect the dogmas.
@ahmedisl8
What you trying to say, a dialogue does not mean me accepting everything you say.
Also somethings there is no dialogue in. To say they up for dialogue is to say maybe there could be be another way. They Quran and Sunnah, they are obligatories and sunnahs of Islam. They are not up for dialogue. Either you accept or face the consequences in the hereafter.
I do not accept any radom weirdos to come with their hairy fairy and whimsical opinions. We need Quran and Sunnah and consensus of the 1400yrs of islamic scholarship.
Radom acadamic Abdul cannot change 1400yrs of Islam just because he has a degree and PhD in some western school