Secret Connection Between Alchemy & Dreams | Carl Jung
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PART 1 of 2: • CARL JUNG: In-Depth An...
Part 2 of 2 on Carl Jung's Psychology & Alchemy. This week, we'll spend the beginning of the episode considering the parallel between the lapis philosophorum and Christ, and the unusual claim of the alchemists that man can redeem God. The rest of the episode concerns Carl Jung's extended dream analysis of a single patient, which he found to be laden with alchemical imagery and symbolism.
I’ve gone through stages of recurring dreams throughout my life, sleep paralysis even for a couple years, this stuff has been really fascinating lately. My most recent dreams have been that of me killing someone I know and wrestling with the guilt while also trying to cover up the crime. Was so convinced I had killed a childhood friend the other night that I had to look him up on facebook to see if he was alive. Don’t ignore them folks, the dreams are trying to help you
I think that grieving your friend is to be done
What is it trying to say and what did you find out when you looked up your friend?
I had similar Dreams months ago 😂
@@robertogaspar8055 oh maybe I made this sound more intense than it was lol, he was alive and well we just hadn’t spoke in years.
Edit: I’m not a master dream interpreter by any means but if I had to make some guesses it would be two things. 1) that I felt like I was a burden on the people around me. I was homeless for the last couple years couch surfing and relying heavily on others. Maybe my subconscious was trying to tell me I needed to start regaining autonomy (I am in my own place now though and getting things back in order). 2) this is a bit more pseudo to me, but we’re talking about psych and alchemy so let’s just drop the hard logic. I have a possible upcoming opportunity. I was separated from the military a few years back for denying the covid vaccine. I’m sure yall know our lovely president has issued an order to rehire service members who got separated for it with back pay. Like I said, I just spent a couple years homeless after being separated, a 6 digit bonus to go back in for a bit would alter the course of my life in theory, clear debts and have a fresh start. But I hated the military and to be frank, spoke rather disparagingly about it for quite some time now. There’s a part of me thinking that these dreams were trying to warn me. Maybe going back would inadvertently make me responsible for deaths I didn’t want to cause all because I wanted a little money. Again I hate to try to sound like the main character lmao. I’m as clueless as everyone else when it comes to this stuff, but as I previously mentioned, difficulty sleeping and vivid and recurring dreams have always been a staple in my life. I’m not sure how this has anything to do with alchemy, but it’s definitely something that I contemplate regardless
I swear I commented on the last video but it seems to have not went through. Your last video spoke to me, I really enjoyed it and will go back and watch parts of it again. It really helped me understand alchemical thinking, you are very articulate. Later today I’ll begin watching this one too. Also I really like your voice, it sounds a lot like one of the guys that does many of the Khan Academy videos haha
Thank you, Keegan. This video, alongside the first one, allowed for the beginnings of my understanding of an exceedingly strange, but very important dream I had some months ago.
Dream:
I am travelling with my entire extended family to a house we are planning to stay in. We leave our car and descend in a large elevator to an area were we must wait before we can proceed to a second car to be used drive to the house. The space is strikingly modern, mostly comprised of glass and metal. My family gives me a bag of fruit for safekeeping. As we wait I realize I have forgotten an important belt my grandfather gave me, which I left in the first car at the top of the elevator, so I go back up to retrieve it. But as I reach the top my attention breaks and I get on the back of a motorcycle driven by an African man to tour the surrounding countryside. As we ride through a sand filled place of poverty, fruit keeps falling through a hole in the bottom of my bag. The guide turns around to grab one of them for me but when he picks it up it has a bite out of it. Everyone else on the tour has by now disappeared. We keep driving and come to ride alongside the coast where a mass of thousands of ships lay idle near the shore. We then arrive at a place called "Buddhist Garden". Upon arrival I realize I had a second stronger bag the entire time and would not have lost my fruit had I used it. I walk through a building leading to the gardens and meet two monks from Tibet. The guides instruct me on how to travel through the garden to get back to my family. The path through the garden is in the shape of a large oval. I must take a righthand turn upon entry and proceed around the oval until I once again reach the beginning upon which I will leave and return to my family. This confuses me and I ask the monks to clarify but they only respond with the same. I enter the oval and am immediately consumed by the beauty of the ocean to my left. I walk towards it, and see a group of sunflowers before the ocean. The dream abruptly ends.
My interpretation so far is that I must have more appreciation for the ordered steps set out by tradition. My personality is one that instinctively rejects convention and seeks its own path which has caused me to forgo even the most basic steps in life. I am always trying to run before I can walk. I am also extremely prone to distraction. Hence why the monks tell me to proceed around the circle, from beginning to end, without losing focus. My distraction by the ocean is indicative of a fragmented psyche in which the unconscious, being wholly unintegrated, pulls me in one direction, and then another, without my having much control over it.
This is as far as I have gotten. If anyone has any thoughts they would be appreciated though I imagine interpretation will be difficult without more biographical information. The meaning of the first half alludes me. Again, thank you Keegan, it may seem like a trifle but I have been struggling with this for years and your video has helped me begin diagnosing a pernicious problem. Looking forward to your future podcasts.
Your videos on Jung are my favorite. Keep em coming please
Going through this piece, I just found it extremely enlightening. The references to Upanishads for explanation of specific terms like Tatvam Asi and Aham Bramahsmi were quite interesting. I woukd exhort you to explore the influence of Upanishads in philosophy of Schopenhauer, Nietzsche and Jung.
I second this. Would really like to see how Nietzsche intersects with the Vedas and other Indo-European mythology
Yo man, love your channel! I discovered you a month ago and consumed a lot of your content wile working, it has been gratly useful and i fell you are the best on youtube in so far as Nietzsche content.
Concerning older and Eastern traditions, when you sleep you are open to manipulations by Spirits and Gods. In a modern variant; the psychological and social propaganda during the day moves on into the realm of the Night and Dreams. It's very diffucult to say if your dreams are inner revelations or just repetitions of social conditioning you encounter during the day. Add to that the ancient belief that Wizards/Yogies can send or manipulate your dreams. Anyhow it shows that dreams are less sacred and innocent than various esoteric traditions want you to belief. Most of them rely on the paradigm that Dreams come from a sacred realm, the same sacred realm they are eager to explain to you or indoctrinate you with. Just take a look at the mess of dream dictionaries and interpretations and realize how there is a lot of power in interpreting dreams through an ideological filter.
Oh you have dreams about questioning your gender ideas or sexuality? You must be having an internal conflict? Totally ignoring the fact that we are being bombardert daily with such ideas which repeat themselves in dreams. Oh you dream horribly about Climate Change, you must be concerned with making a difference... instead of the culture around you seems way to busy with this and naturally it will be repeated in your dreams cause everbody around you is busy with it.
Metempsychosis - the change of the self. Thanks for sharing. Wonderful presentation and perspective.
One of my favorite words. Cheers!
In ancient Greece: Orphic, Pythagorean and Platonic traditions, metempsychosis meant reincarnation.
@@arturhashmi6281 While metempsychosis did have that meaning in Greek traditions, it's also a broader concept related to the transformation of the self. The etymology itself is fascinating-'metem' relates to change, and 'psychosis' to the soul. What are your thoughts on that?"
@@alohm I did not say that you were wrong about anything. Your defensivness is hilarious. I just stated the fact that people used that term in the context of transmigration of the soul, it does not contradict your words. I just do not know any ancient source where someone used that word, but meant something else. I would be grateful if you would show me my mistake. I know that your question was probably rethorical, but anyway, "psyche" as you know means soul, while "meta" is polysemic word which meaning vary depending on context, but it loosely translated as English "beyond" or "over", in postmodern era it got another meaning that suggest self-reference eg. metastory - story about stories, but Aristotle for example coined a term "Metaphysics" to name his work that he wrote after his "Physics", so what he meant by "Metaphysics" was lit. everything other then (beyond) physics. Saying all this, etymology does no determine the meaning of a word, people define the meaning by using it in certain contexts.
@@arturhashmi6281 What are you on about? The word is Metem not meta. Wow. "etymology does no determine the meaning of a word, people define the meaning by using it in certain contexts." Really?
Etymology of Μετεμψύχωσις (Metempsychosis)
The word μετεμψύχωσις (metempsychosis) comes from Ancient Greek:
μετά (meta- or metem-) → meaning change, beyond, or transformation
ψυχή (psyche) → meaning soul or life-force
-ωσις (-osis) → a suffix indicating a process or state
Thus, metempsychosis literally means "the process of the soul changing (or migrating) beyond its current state."
Clarification of Metem
The metem- form results from meta + en, where en (in) assimilates to em before p (ψ).
While meta often means "beyond" or "after," in this compound, it specifically conveys "change"-a transformation of the soul from one state or body to another.
metempsychosis can absolutely mean self-change-not just reincarnation in the traditional sense but an inner transformation or evolution of the self.
Why This Works
Metem- (μετά) → change, transformation
Psyche (ψυχή) → soul, self, essence
-osis (-ωσις) → process, becoming
While the classical Greek usage refers to the transmigration of the soul (reincarnation), the deeper etymology allows for a broader, metaphorical interpretation:
A shift in one’s essence or state of being
Personal metamorphosis or self-reinvention
This fits beautifully with mystical, psychological, and philosophical perspectives-whether in a Platonic, Jungian, or Tantric sense.
6:00 'Alchemy was adulterated by the psychological projections of the alchemists themselves, such that they confused an investigation of affects with chemistry'
I rarely ever I rarely ever dream, does this mean I am so individuated that I don't need to re-center my consciousness 🤔
No, you are just asleep
sometimes dreaming sucks. I dream every night, every nap, every sudden doze-off. Maybe it's the sleep apnea. My unconscious has nothing left to say to my consciousness because the dreams are usually boring. The best ones I'm just wandering a countryside. The annoying ones I can't escape endless structures. just woke up from dreaming of biking with my friends but I kept falling behind and getting lost. Before that I dug up my childhood dogs from the snow. I seem to recall a bear pacing around my house in the night, never letting us leave, whoever "us" really was I don't know. dreams are ghey, I wish they'd leave me alone and let me sleep.
hahahha
It's the union of Doohan and Dugin's Jungian Gungan
You should do one on Timothy Leary. That'd be pretty radical.
Very nice series, thankyou
Hell yes Salts. Ive got back into the Red Book. My second reading actually. That book will never make logical sense and how could it? But there is insight in those pages. So much so im inspired to create my own Red Book. Im really stoked that your doing lectures on Jung. You have done tremendous work with this podcast since its advent. Rock on Salts, Be well🤘
He didn't want it releasing because he realised it wasn't his imagination. He was talking to what religious people call a demon. He lost his mind to it. Same with nietzsche. Do not fly too close to the sun
We must transmute lead into the ubermensch
oh boy
Wheres the link in the description!?!?!?!?!
Sorry! It's added now. Here it is: th-cam.com/video/tCEKsU9XoJ4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=viPIfhkZRdTU2_hh
Love... i dont know🥰🥰🥰
ive waited for this presentation with so much anticipation... alchemy is ... simplest gases coming together and transform into vibrant suns emanating light creating heavier elements and planets ... and life itself... is this not magical alchemical transformation , the entire cosmos is a vessel for alchemical transmutation , the holy grail ..
14:0 awesome.. most miss the importance of the Imatatio Christi by A Kempis to Jung!
Thoughts on discussing this with someone like Alex O’Conner…?
Comment on his channel and tell him he should talk to me!
@ I see him as someone who is asking the right initial questions, but stuck in a loop based on the thick veil of dogma.
I will be honest, I frankly really can not respect people who read Jung or things like "The Alchemist", I can't take the mysticism. Let me clarify, I'm not talking about you, I really enjoy your content. But I struggle to keep my mouth shut when I attend church, not at the (catholic) ceremony itself but by the way people talk about their faith, so you can imagine how I feel about going as far believing in things such as "Odin". I don't understand why people that reads Nietzsche would have an interest in Jung, like that Uberboyo and others. I can't help but think this is a massive source of "brain rot" (by that I mean poorly-conceived ideas or just "waste of mental power/energy") and look at what just happened to that guy, Rudyard Lynch. Yes, sure, he certainly has psychological issues that have nothing to do with it, and probably was abused as a child, but I can't help but think all this nonsense sort of leads you into this state he finds himself now, a state of absolute delusion.
If you’re referring to Paul Coelho’s boom The Alchemist, it really has nothing to do with Jung’s work or this topic.
I think Jung has valuable things to offer, if his religious mumbo jumbo is understood psychologically; and I also have a personal interest due to my vivid and numinous dreams, and lifelong attempts to analyze my dreams.
@@untimelyreflections Yes, I was, I apologize for my ignorance on the subject if me associating this with said book was gratingly out of place. You mentioned the topic of alchemy and I remembered Rudyard commenting on said book (before going insane). I understand your interest and I enjoy your well spoken explanations of such subjects (that I would otherwise know nothing about - not reading it from primary sources). I just can't shake a (perhaps wrong) feeling that delving in such "mystic" subjects to the depth that you create definitions and give names to "entities" (such as Odin), is probably a waste of mental power (thinking) and also potentially paving the way to a state of delusion. I don't dislike all talking of "spirituality" or "consciousness", or "sprit" (in a metaphysical context, or perhaps something muddy unclear or in between the rational and the irrational (like most philosophy?)), I just think when you get to the point of believing these "entities" and naming them, it's kind of too much out there, sort of delusional. I was just expressing this personal concern I have on the subject, I'm enjoying the video. Thanks.
@@CriticallyRealist What do you think is behind your aversion to the, in your words, delusional? Respectfully, it sounds like it could be born of fear. Fear of losing perhaps some cherished notion you have of your self, maybe? Also, given that your username is "CriticallyRealist" I imagine that your opinion of your own rational faculties and ability to distinguish between what's "real" and what's "illusory", what's the signifier and what's being signified, is quite high--or at least you hold that ability in high regard. Forgive me if I'm being too forward, too presumptuous here, but please ask yourself: where does this fear of delusion, of mysticism, come from? What developed it in you? What does it signify? What are you holding so close to your chest?
@@CriticallyRealist the problem with jung is that hes like the rational materialist's alchemist. analogizes everything to psychological processes. jungian alchemy is this woo woo pantomime to help your mental health or something. real alchemy is about literally becoming immortal and merging with divinities there is a huge variance in scale of aspiration there. no shade just people forget there is an actual practical tradition and a real non speculative lapis
@@emandc1 With how AI and science as a whole is advancing, as of the past like, month. It really feeks like we are entering a new age both ripe for psychological development and also quite literal alchemical advancements, with the advancements in rejuvenation that are coming
Your digestion, interpretation, and dialect of Jung and Nietzche has been so valuable to my comprehension. Thank you
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This isn’t dream related, but it did occur early on the morning of August the 18th. I’d just started my car~ the mighty Silver Sled. I noticed that the tripometer read 444.4. That tripped me out, after all, I have a small tattoo on my right forearm that reads 4:44. I took a picture of it. Later on I showed the photo to a coworker, and I couldn’t believe the time stamp. The photo was taken at exactly 4:00 AM (I was in a bit of a manic phase back then, and was popping out of bed to poop between 2&4 in the morning. The most extreme example was when I woke and saw my watch read 0:00, because I have it on military time. That’s right kids, back in August I actually started one of my days at midnight. Thank God that’s over with.) I have many other examples, but the one from August the 7th really got me. It was five days before my 57th birthday. I went to Target and bought some miscellaneous items. The receipt read $57.67. I was born in 1967, was about to turn 57, and what did my dumbass self do? I threw away the receipt. I’m an dum dum dog. Excellent job on a very tricky topic.🦅🐍
Can you recommend some occult type books that aren't woo and secretly new thought/eugenicist? These Jung videos have been good and most Jung vids are sketchy. Like that Robert Moore guy.