How Ricky Williams’s infamous contract got made l FiveThirtyEight
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- Master P leveraged personal fame and 1990s rap culture to create No Limit Sports, an agency historically led by an African American. But history remembers his agency for something else.
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Its turns out the limit was 2 years lmao
LMAO
@@Berkmugga co sign . absolutely hilarious : )
Chris G oh fuck lmao
And master p net worth is 5 to 600 million today.
Slow clap
Company’s first white guy is will Ferrell 🤷🏼♂️😂😎
Reminded me of Get Hard 😂
Get hard fo sho
Serious had to look 3x🤣
GATOR
😂😂😂😂
The company’s first white guy “Will Ferrell dresses like Tupac”. 2:52
Definitely the Rock's iconic outfit.
“These white dudes dont know that there doing”
Goes and hires a white dude to learn and help expand the company .....
And still fucks it up. Did anybody at No Limit Sports even proofread the contract?!
Trump2020
@BENNY MOHAWK cookies, High Octane, Wedding Cake!
Stone Road and Pacific Road
@BENNY MOHAWK lmfao and I'll save my money and throw a party for family and friends. Habe fun!
@BENNY MOHAWK laugh
*Guys write up a horrible contract*
Everyone else : Why did you write such a bad contract?
These guys : Had it not been for the white man!
Far too many people want to blame racism for things it has nothing to do with. It doesn't help they are seemingly blind to the fact this video is to make them look foolish. Who in their right mind does this interview?
Anthony Clauser to avoid all of this you could just sign a white agent
@@smothersu3932 Or a black agent who works for an established agency, or at least has 10 clients.
Actually Ricky said I WANT BIG MONEY UPFRONT WITH THE REST IN INCENTIVES! You fkn idiot. He's actually on camera saying it dummy! And believe me those WHITE MEN who owned the saints were more than willing to fck Ricky out of whatever they could. You see they didn't complain
@@vancef5060 Are you really mad a business saw this contract proposal and said... cool, if that's what you want... done! Ricky Williams doesn't understand money (coming from the projects as they say repeatedly in the video) is PAYING his agents to get him an incentive based contract with a nice chunk up front. That's all he's asking for. So looking at the 1999 draft we see signing bonuses of 1st overall Couch: $12.5 million, 2nd McNabb: $11.3, 3rd Smith: $10.8 million, 4th E. James $9.5 million... and Ricky gets $8.8 with him needing to beat All-time bests to trigger escalators? He didn't get any more money up front than he would of if he signed a typical contract and would of made MORE MONEY OVERALL signing a normal contract. Are you part of No Limit Sports? lol
Saint's owner was probly laughing after they left the meeting.
You mean hiring based solely on race isn't optimal?
Sean Hayes shut the fuck up, racist
@@Rountree1985 that isn't racist at all, it's more racist hiring on race.
@@Rountree1985 Go learn what racism is.
It is almost like racism is bad.
Sean Hayes isn’t that what Jews and whites do?
Lol Ricky Williams grew up middle class in San Diego
Ole boy knows how to get finessed.
Not too mention, if Ricky just gets the typical contract, Master P is serious that Ricky couldn't move a dozen people into the burbs with a million instead of 8 up front.
The Saints management must have been hovering between confused abd ecstatic.
Lmao hey I'm subscribed to your channel. Funny seeing you in this comment section
Rexford Morgan by
@@rexfordmorgan7552 But you forget Ricky was the 5th overall pick in the draft. The $8.8M he received is directly in line with his draft position. Edgerrin James, drafted 4th overall that year with a standard contract received $9.5M. There was NOTHING special about the signing bonus Ricky Williams received to offset the stupidity of the annual salary and escalators.
The size of that dudes neck. 😳
Tre Jaay who Ricky Williams lol
Lloyd Porter yes holy heck Ricky Williams lol
Amazing!!
Amazing right?!lol
Dude thought it was NBA money. I respect he feels like he gotta earn it but you saved the owners money by taking less
That's true but he ain't do shit so the owners lost
@@kevinblack5055 the owners lost? No disrespect but that was some really dumb shit to say
Justin Simuel they had traded all their draft picks for Ricky Williams
@@justinsimuel8414 the point is if he made any money he wasn't worth it. He was shit out the gate. Do no disrespect ur dumb and like supernaquise said they lost. U dumb. Now let me get to breaking up with this dumb bitch. Gn
@@kevinblack5055 the whole Saints organization was shit . What did Ricky do when he got with the dolphins? Better qb, better line. He never had the chance to succeed in New Orleans
In total Ricky Williams earned $25M after playing for 10 seasons in the NFL. Might seem like a lot but for comparison sake, Edgerrin James was drafted one spot before in 1999 and earned $68M in 11 seasons. This contract really screwed Ricky Williams up, during seasons 2 and 3 he only earned about $400k/year while Edgerrin James was bringing in $5M a year
The season he was suspended, he paid to pay the Dolphins back like $8million of his bonus.
The idea that they did this contract so Rickey could have a higher bonus and get more money up front is BS. He would have got that signing bonus regardless. Edgerrin James was drafted one spot above Rickey. He got a $9.5 million bonus AND signed a better contract than rickey. James wound up making over $40 million off his rookie deal. 3x more than Rickey did.
Don't believe them trying to tell you it was about getting Rickey more money up front. It wasn't. They actually got LESS up front than James did even though Rickey was the much more accomplished player/prospect.
I"m surprised that Edgerrin James' contract wasn't mentioned in this. It gives direct context to how bad Ricky Williams' contract really was.
That is not true, you weren't paying attention. He made almost $23 million of his deal, not $9.5. Still bad, but not that bad.
Where was the NFLPA ,players union, at???? They're supposed to review those contracts BEFORE a player signs them .
That contract benefited the Saints and the Saints only.
I grew up in poverty. You don’t need $8.8M upfront to get your family out the hood. Ain’t nobody hurting because they got a $1-4M signing bonus. Incentives can be good but make them a realistic cherry on top.
@utewbing Stop being obtuse. There's zero percent chance they did that on purpose. They would've made WWWAAAAYYYYYYY more money if he lived up to his earning potential, not only with just him but with other recruits.
Andy Curtin is definitely going to be played by Will Ferrell one day.
“Man i got this weed!” I was busting up laughing 😂😂😂
Lol brah *420 ~sTaY bLAzEd~*
Hell yeah stay lit bruh 🔥🔥💯💯🤤🔥💀💀👌🏼👌🏽👌🏾💯🔥🔥
Even funnier is that it was probably Ricky Williams that said it lmfao 😂😂😂
Wtffff how have I never heard of no limit sports my mind is blown
You were still crapping your pants
🤣😂 He's probably too young to know about it
Poor Ricky. Guy always got the short end of the stick. I don’t blame him for walking away to find peace.
“We wrote the blueprint for failure.” -Master P
*you draw blueprints, but that’s beside the point*
This mans neck is bigger than my future
It sounds like Ricky took his bonus and chilled lol
Better than CTE
Failure of the agent and agency. You do what's best for the client, and use your expertise to guide them, which sometimes means educating them. Ricky could have and should have been paid, but the agency let him down.
Ricky wanted a bad deal, but P's agency should have advised against and pushed otherwise.
8.8 MILLION DOLLARS UP FRONT TO A BLACK KID WITH HIS ENTIRE FAMILY IN POVERTY ?? I THINK P DID A DAMN GOOD JOB !!
-Coming From A Black Kid In Poverty
@@zachh597 living in poverty all your life waiting 3 more years so you can have 30-40 vs 8 million up front is foolish
Judah Jr how do you feel comfortable saying “8.8 million is foolish” ? You must be a very rich person
@@zachh597 it's foolish because he played the short game and lost.
Judah Jr 8.8 million is NOT a loss. Coming from poverty it’s the world.
"he black and we black thus we know each other's needs so he should come work with us" ah, such sound logic
2:52 🤣🤣🤣Lmao He looks like Will Ferrel in Get Hard
Lmfao Mayo
I didn’t know Will Ferrell worked for No Limit 😮
scrolled down to the comments just to see if anybody else noticed
*Gator, to be exact
jordon degroote bruh!😂😂😂💀
It's Ricky's fault. He thought the NFL was a video game with daily challenges.
He thought a racist agency who only hired blacks would get him the best deal.
Beau ?
Beau dam racist? Sense when is helping a black man during a racist era racist?😂 do you realize white ppl were still openly racist in those times?
In those times? How long ago do you think Ricky Williams played?😂😂😂
Ayyyyooooooo 🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣
You can always learn from others mistakes. I never knew master p had a sports agency.
Master P seems to think it's not a good idea to team up with people who know what they are doing If they are white. If a white man said that about black people their would be soooooooo much outrage it would be overwhelming.
How if he hired a white man
@@coolpeepsking6703 then didnt let him do what he literally hired him to do, which in turn ruined his company. Kinda got what he deserved.
Didn't last as long as he thought but they made money but he was way ahead of his time unlike Jay-Z who they glorified today when all he's doing is shit Master P done 20 years ago
Yeah, fuck the racist blacks
I wish i could like this comment a trillion times.. imagine the roles opposite. A white athlete and if master p was white and they were saying all this about black people.. itd be a civil war again
Why doesn’t this have that many views? It’s great
110P Highlights it should be longer. It’s lacking more.
Even with the new collective bargaining agreement limiting rookies to contracts based on their pick, a number 1 pick these days makes WAY more than $14 million. Ricky got screwed.
Reporter “Ricky are you getting paid ?”
Ricky replies” Nah Nah Nah Nah!”
The first 2.5 mins tells you everything that went wrong.
This made me laugh till I cried
Cuba Gooding Jr: RIIIIIICCCKKKYYYY!
(shotgun blast)
Wonder how many people get the reference. Awesome movie.
No Limit shot him
Production quality is great. But why so less views ?
Need more promotion ?
facts
I assume it's because FiveThirtyEight put it up on their website first without the video being from TH-cam. Which deflated the view count from the TH-cam upload
@@de132 Exactly, big company with a small youtube channel.
Maybe bc it’s a bunch of racist ass bullshit with a bunch of moron ass mfs blaming white ppl for a failed business venture & the worst contract of all time...🤷🏻♂️Just a guess
Thank you!!!!! We needed this!!
*Don’t blow it.*
*Keep it simple.*
*Count your money.*
Don't be represented by gold toothed mumblemouth.
hahahahha holy shit shout out to allenpalin and bill fans
Yooo.. he literally failed all three.
... & make 'em say ughhh!
They wanted him to put up Madden numbers played on rookie mode 😂
All pro
Lol fam i felt that
With the sliders up
Hell ya
In return, he put up average numbers on all- madden 😂😂😂
No wonder Ricky was smokin !!!!
Or because he was smoking?
Master P lost out on a 50 car boost to Nicolas Cage, no kidding he couldn't run a sports agency
So basically they were pretty racist is what I'm gathering so far
THE SAME WAY WHITES, ASIANS, JEWS AND EVERYONE ELSE IS!
@@akvalues except only one group is crying and throwing tantrums to be in everyone else's club and then is blatant hypocrite acting like they do not pull the same shit. Kinda like bitching about acceptance race into historically white school and then crying for safe spaces. Or better yet throwing a tantrum when whitey actually goes to an historically black school. One group always ends up looking like the hypocrite and people are finally nutting up to call them on it.
akvalues nothing like that at all.
J But people like you stay ass deep in Black business syphoning off of Black culture; which is why you clicked on this video.
LMAO you whites in here talking about Black people being "racist" is hilaaarious. Black people are trying to lift their people up out of devastation caused by WHITE PEOPLE in this country.. Is it racist when Chinese hire their people or any other race? They never locked other races out of getting a job, that would be racist. They're trying to help those in NEED. I see you new age and millennials are trying to change the history and present of your racism in this world but we're not gonna let you do that.
LMAO DON KING JUST YOUNGER. EPSTEIN DID NOT KILL HIMSELF
Lol watching this vid all I could think think about was that scumbag Don King
This is cool. I’m guessing it was recommended cause I just watched a couple Ricky Williams interviews on Bleacher Report.
Nope. The Richard Sherman news
me too!
U just commented your inturnal dialog
Had they got him a big contract no limit sports would have been big
2:53 I thought Master P hired Will Farrell’s dad to run the company
Now do a documentary on how the Saints ended up drafting Williams. Just as interesting a story if not more so
Bitcoin? Wow, this is definitely an ultra Conservative Channel. 🙄
“We decided to use the name gator as cover”
Master P trying to justify a bad business deal is stomach turning. ‘This is a learning experience for everybody,’ which is understandable but shame on him for gaining this experience on behalf of Ricky’s livelihood.
No limit sports should have never happen period. Master P that dude, but this wasnt his lane.
One of the worst decisions Williams ever made
8.8 MILLION UP FRONT AINT BAD
-Speaking For The Hood
Zach H 😂😂😂😂😂
8.8 million, invested correctly can turn into much more...he is currently worth at least half of that and probably isn't begging anyone for money...
Kevin Kennedy no cap
Master P running a sports agency is like R. Kelly running a Middle School.
Chris Arthur no lies detected
ricky williams was my favortie player back in the day. he was a beast. i would play nfl2k2 and build my own team with Ricky Williams at running back.
This is a cool story i didn’t know this was a venture by Master P
Business knows no color! There’s Good business and bad business. These athletes have a lottery ticket in themselves, hire someone who can set you up for the rest of you life. Not someone trying to make a racial statement.
P knew that they gave him a bad deal....He has some Don King type tactics that always make me question P's intent. I don't blame Kodak for being so skeptical.
i wish this video was longer it got really good at the end....but im still curious how it all went down , the collapse
People really be out here acting like 14 million dollars is minimum wage sheesh
68 mill vs 14 mill.
You pick one I'll take the other one. Now let's see which one you want.
S J well said. I guess some people are slow . Smh
The guy that sang "make em say UHHH" sounds like a good sports agent. Sign me up.
I mean, he’s worth $600 million right now, so...... yeah.
SJ Publishing $600 mil? Lol no way ... more like $200
SJ Publishing how much of that money came from his sports agency? I’ll wait.
MGBillionaire shit that’s still hella money 😭
SJ Publishing and all of his associates are probably broke as hell right now
They need to make a movie about this with Will Ferrell as Andy Curtin
Great video bro
He should of known not to sign to an agency lead by someone named "Master P" who has a brother named "C Murder."
Lol!! 😂
Commented by A-Lock.....real genius there buddy!
But those types of names get respect in the black community...
@@SJ-nl6xl those types of names and those people have done more in life and made more money than you probably will. Impacted more lives then you ever will. What the hell have you done in life!
You ain’t lying lol
That's how P really got rich , off of one bad contract.
There definitely is "A Limit Records".
When his client looks at the sports contract, his response is uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
How the hell would you think a dude with gold teeth and may you say uhh would be a good agent. I guess master p did t realize the more Ricky got paid the more he made.
@smoothcollectedYou are speaking straight Facts....Real Talk....True Gospel!!!Living in Jackson,Ms.,but born & raised in New Orleans,La.New Orleans will always be home.Peace & Love, brother !!!
smoothcollected Respect ✊🏽
So in 4years he made roughly 5.7 million a year ...with 8.8 million day 1
Spoon Loc yes in logic but really only made that 8 million with 2.3 million for the next 7 years (got minimum 175k each year)
I remember seeing 2 black Lexus GS400's with Deep Tint with NLSPT1/2 on Airline highway in New Orleans. P wasn't tripping - He got a few NBA preseason contracts out this effort. Win/Win
How is someone a discount birdman? Birdman already a discount person lol
Master P has to learn to work with others. There’s nothing wrong with it.
Yeah but at the expense of his players, it is.
lol read it as infamous contacts
We had to figure it out at Ricky’ expense.
the rise and fall of narrator? but hes slightly altered his voice...pretty kewl and high quality
Master P ruined this man's career just like he is still killing people's careers today!
How is he ruing careers today shut up you don’t even follow him you just talking
Look at snoop he saved him from Suge. Lol
The whit guy looks like Will Ferrell in get hard 😂
B.S Dee-boii-shh fr, with the chain and all 😂
Williams ends up with the Saints which is P's home team..ironic
'White dude rolls up. I thought it was the FBI or NBA."......Lmao
Maybe it’s best to team up with people... lol.. ya gave him a shit contract
Master P meant well. Someone had to be first and it was him. Ricky Williams is a piece of work. He was young and very impatient. He wanted money upfront and received it. Ricky right now is still a millionaire to this very day. A lot of Athletes miss out and then there are guys like Peterson who grossed 100million and are broke
"Master P meant well". Like Thomas Sowell said, it's a terrible idea to let someone make decisions who will pay no price if it fails. Master P is a zillionaire so the money he personally lost was pocket change. You don't bet someone else's livelihood. I say he didn't mean well because in these clips he expressed zero remorse that others lost out. He's like "Well, I'm a hustler and sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Oh well". Oh well with your own livelihood, not someone else's.
Y’all wrote the blueprint on what not to do
I never knew this. N imma 80s baby
Same here I was born in 82 and I am from the South so I followed Master p basically from the day he dropped that first hit song in the main stream my freshman year in 96. Besides not hearing about this I also learned not long ago he played in the NBA for the Toronto Raptors but just for a couple pre-season games and again I think the same deal for the Charlotte Hornets. Allegedly and say that because not sure if its true or not but there is a video on here about it about Master p playing against Michael Jordan in a pick up game and won something like that. I remember when he disappeared from the music industry just over night one day to never hear about what happened or why which struck me as bizarre considering he was hot back in the 90's pumping out more albums and different people on his label than anyone just killing it. Theres a video on here with the story being told by Chamellionaire and that is the best story ive ever heard in my life having to do with the music industry and then it fills in all the blanks why you never hear his name mentioned by industry or recognizing any of his accomplishments or invited to anything to with the music industry and that's crazy when he literally flipped the industry upside down and changed it forever more than anyone has ever done in many different ways such as artists actually making money from what they do, the way contracts are done now these days, the reason artists are able to make money and not be signed to any label and staying independent building up their hype/clout/fame until labels are basically throwing many millions at you to sign on with them and getting it to be a more favorable contract then just bending you over for the next 10 or more years and a few other as well. He is the most underrated icon in music history
Long Story Short,...... Let the White Man do the Contracts lol .....Unless its Rich Paul.
Der Best stfu
Don’t ever trust someone just cuz they match your skin color
That's why it's always best to go with the well-educated instead of the "street educated".
The biggest trade for 1 player in NFL ever. A rookie
The OG wideneck
5:03
Yes master p there are no poor white people....
@Tuho There are many high profile black people who are well off who tell you they truly believe it's not possible for a black man to be racist because it's about oppression on a societal level. Okay dumbass, that makes you a misogynist because traditionally men have held the balance of power. Broaden your scope and you'll see you become the oppressive scumbag you are accusing others of being.
He wanted the front money....he knew dam well he wasnt going to reach those numbers.
Master P and Will Ferrell should make a movie about this
When did race matter, when it came to money?
That's always mattered especially in this country.
@@dalexanderthomas1357 It doesn't when money is involved.
Depends on the situation at hand.
@@dalexanderthomas1357 Zero people are going to choose race when it means they'll forgo the big bucks. Businesses don't give a flying fuck about any color besides green. It's like this whole gender wage gap nonsense: if businesses could actually pay 70 cents on the dollar to women.....they'd hire only women. Duh.
I want to start an agency for white people, I feel we're not understood.
Hire only Jewish people. You’ll own the world in five years. Lol
If I. Not mistaken there was a clause, if he walked on water he woulda gotten 50k that year
All contracts should be like Bobby Bonilla contract. TH-cam that.
So master p gave Ricky Williams an 8.8 million dollar bonus and an incentive laden contract that RICKY ASKED FOR and they call that a failure?? 🤔
Yeaaaa!! Because if you open a business, you gotta do what’s best for your business and your client! Not just what’s best in the short term for your client!! They fucked up!!
Exactly.. up front money is everything when you don't have anything
@@AnthonydREDWAVE all of them get up front money. He could live good with 2 million up front till the season start and he gets game checks which he obviously didn't want to do. What business do you own? So I won't go there. If lactose intolerant ppl order cheese burgers at your restaurant do you take the cheese off and force them to eat it or do you warn them and serve it them anyway? 🤔
@James Henry AND they informed him! HE DIDN'T WANT THE A DIFFERENT CONTRACT! What part do yall not understand?? And the numbers he was matching were Terrell Davis numbers who IS NOT the best running back ever by any stretch of the imagination
@James Henry 10:20
I don't know what it is about master p but he comes across as a snake!! I
He's a hustler
@@nstratford9073 He feels like him being a hustler is more important than making sure he takes care of the people who depend on him. He comes across as a snake indeed.
For them to back load the contract with incentives isn't a bad Idea. But to make incentives that haven't been done before is setting yourself up for failure. Hence why No Limit went out of Business. Now Master P acting like he started something. He started a business on how to take a drop draft pick, give them an average contract and lose your business.
This Is The First That I'm Hearing About This I Didn't Know Master P Had Or Even Made A Sports Brand,Company
Well, Master P tried. You can’t knock a man for trying.
Yeah you 100% can, he ruined Ricky Williams' life by not putting in effort into actually structuring a realistic contract. The kind of money that Ricky should've gotten would've set his family for life but instead it gave him way less.
He basically just said "Well, turns out there's a learning curve. Oh well". Use a learning curve on yourself you dickhead, don't fuck someone else over with it. He doesn't sound contrite AT ALL. He seems like all he cares about is what a hustler he is. That's really self centred. He had the money to do it right, but instead decided to wing it and it came at the expense of someone else and he doesn't seem to feel like that is the takeaway here. He just plays the race card with something that's objective. Contracts are objective. Performance metrics don't give a fuck what race you are. He may as well have lost money in the stock market and blamed it on race.
Ricky Williams got a neck like that one nigga in the mugshots that’s was “up to his neck in charges.” 😂😂😂
I respect Master P because he tried, he really did, but his inability to trust deep sixed him HARD. I mean, really hard.
Master P treated Ricky Williams like that nigga you steal on.