These Pokémon got HUGE Buffs in the Teal Mask
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- Lots of returning Pokemon received enormous buffs in the first DLC for Scarlet and Violet, the Teal Mask
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Do note that torterra has also gained access to the powerful ground type attack, headlong rush
Yeah and rock blast
She’ll smash too I think?
He already got this move in Legends Arceus, but now it's an opportunity to use it on the main competitive game
@@mmmrFelipe888it wasn't nearly as good in PLA though
It was actually made for torterra, probably. In PLA, they added three moves that were only learnable by the starters and three new Paldean Pokémon/forms: Headlong Rush by Torterra and Ursaluna, Raging Fury by Infernape and Hisuian Arcanine, and Wave Crash for Empoleon and Basculegion. The only one that didn't get distributed to other Pokémon in SV is Raging Fury which is still only learnable by Infernape and H-Arcanine. I suspect that they made these new moves specifically for the starters.
For Kleavor, you made a mistake: X-Scissor *is* boosted by sharpness, though the speed control aspect of pounce might play, I think the raw power might make the sharp move more attractive, because Kleavor offers little outside of stealth rocks and damage
I was gonna say the same thing
I use mine as a rapid urshifu counter. water tera and rocky helm, he'll kill himself on you.
@@MrShockzineto be fair, almost anything with decent defense and tera water rocky helmet is gonna be an urshifu counter lol
What Kleavor really needs is a priority move...namely the one that they gave to lycanrock nearly a decade ago and still refuse to distribute to anyone else for some reason.
@@notafan5573 Technically it does get Quick Attack... lol
Roaring Moon always had access to Scale Shot, it was the only mon with access to it by level up
I’ve also been running Weather Ball Kilowattrell since 2022 lol
Banded outrage or scale shot with loaded dice can 1 shot many mons but it’s super fragile afterwards
@@spacemoose200you can't use two item bro
@@spacemoose200choice band AND loaded dice?
@@spacemoose200 bro was so strong he hacked in two items
Hopefully Pokémon starts doing things like this going forward
Yeah. This is definitely something that makes Pokémon that people didn't use or maybe you like it and want to use it more viable.
They already did for the last few gens lol
Moveset alterations have been a thing since Yellow lol
The number of Pokemon who got sick new tools to make them viable was massive in this DLC, I hope they keep that rythm in the futur.
I’m scared to see what they do for emboar
Empoleon finally getting the love it deserves
Yes ❤
That could mean the other starters who are returning in the indigo disk are potentially getting a buff as well
@@crazygalemt I like the way you think
Emp? I’d say Torterra needed it more
@@shironasama0445 Tera is Torterra's buff, tbh
You forgot to mention that Empoleon not only got an usable ability, but he also got knock off and flip turn.
and Roost
And Vacuum Wave
It also gets Steel Beam AND Brine, which is just so perfect for Empoleon.
Bruh he got flip turn?
Quick misconception: X-Scissor is boosted by sharpness and it does do a ton of damage when on Kleavor. Other than that great vid! Looking forward to finally seeing my bois Shiftry and Kommo-O getting more usage!
Kilowatterel and Roaring Moon also always had Weather Ball and Scale Shot respectively
Kilowattrel and Roaring Moon already had access to Weather Ball and Scale Shot respectively. Fun fact, it was Roaring Moon's signature move in Gen 9 prior to the Teal Mask since it was the only mon to learn it.
Roaring Moon didn’t get a signature move, Scale shot was available in gen 8, and I’m pretty sure that Inteleon was able to learn it via TM/TR, along with Sandaconda
@@noahsmith5304 I know, but it was it's signature move in the same way that Water Shuriken was Accelgor signature move in Gen 8 and Expanding Force is Armarouges signature move in Gen 9
@@Hnui03 I see what point you are trying to make, but I always thought that signature moves were only moves that were ever learned by a single pokemon ever. My mistake
No worries. Your definition of it is correct, it's just funny how a normal move CAN BECOME a signature if no other Pokemon learns it. Now this isn't a perfect example, but think of it like Pin Missile in Gen 1 where Jolteon was the only Pokemon to naturally learn Pin Missile. Beedrill gets it but this is beside the point.
Scizor with something like tera dragon is very interesting in my opinion. The only natural threats to scizor are fire types. Dragon resists it. It also resists water and grass. The fact that Ogerpon , rillaboom and urshifu are everywhere, means this will be a very hard counter to them. After it Teras into dragon, it does become weak to Chien-pao and flutter mane, but technician bullet punch essentially ohkos both of them without sash. This on top of the fact that people won't want to bring flutter or Chien pao into a matchup with scizor because it resists ice and fairy naturally. With dual wing beat, it can get rid of the troublesome grass and fighting types everywhere. I'm glad you mentioned this and I plan on trying it out starting today!
Let us know your findings and how effective it is
@@wjt764 for sure man
This is pretty intriguing because I’ve thought about potential tera dragons on certain Pokémon since fire/water/grass cores have been so popular but then I take two seconds and remember, “oh yeah flutter mane exists”
@@mecha5893 exactly but I think scizor specifically checks flutter and at the very least forces a defensive Tera from it! About to start testing right now
@@wjt764 so this is what I ended up figuring out. I must preface this by saying I am in the top 1000 on the scarlet violet online ladder so I am usually playing against standard strong meta teams. Firstly, I had a very hard time bringing scizor into matchups . For some reason, as soon as I started using scizor, I ran into either a farigiraf or indeedee f EVERY GAME. This is troublesome enough as it is but there are more problems with scizor. Scizor is quite slow which means even if it Tera’s into dragon, it can be doubled up onto with neutral moves. Urshifu close combat is a big issue. Chien pao is not actually walled by scizor either. This is because of sucker punch. Since Chien pao is faster, sucker punch will go before bullet punch and it will do 40-50% damage to you. This essentially forces you to deal with Chien-pao quickly which is very hard to do when almost every Chien-pao is running focus sash and protect. Since almost everything outspends scizor, you have to rely heavily on bullet punch and if you cant use it, scizor’s viability decreases substantially. Lastly, bug is not a good stab typing . It is resisted by fire, bug, steel, fighting and poison. I may be forgetting a few as well. This means that even if scizor can get off an attack, with how slow it is, it usually cant do enough damage to pressure opponents into even taking it seriously . Long story short, scizor is bad. What I did learn however, is that ceruledge is VERY GOOD right now. Tera grass ceruledge in particular. It completely walls all of Ogerpons form, it walls heatran , and with a single Bulk up , it walls iron hands , rillaboom, dragonite and many more. The toughest thing about this strategy is ….you guessed it……Chien-pao once again . If you don’t Tera grass, then sucker punch ohkos unless you have a lot of bulk and/or have used bulk up at least once . If you do Tera grass, then it outspeeds you and can ohko with icicle crash or ice spinner. I would recommend running protect on your ceruledge to bait out protect on their end and to properly time your uses of bitter blade. The recovery from bitter blade is absolutely ridiculous. It seems to recover like 75% of damage dealt. Leftovers, combined with protect and bitter blade makes this thing a nightmare to remove . I have won many matches in 1 v 2s and 3s with this thing but it is not easily to pull off. Both of these picks are very niche however and I don’t think they are good enough to consider bringing to a tournament or anything . So this is about all I’ve got . Let me know if you guys have any questions.
Empoleon being potentially viable is incredible! Excited that the Sinnoh starters are getting some love!
Infernape has been good
@@PT5-Shortsbut it's..... Infernape 🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
@@frankcaggiano8282How dare you...Infernape is the best one!
@@frankcaggiano8282 If you watched the anime you would love Infernape. He's S tier, design wise🔥
yeah it's about time!
Shiftry itself also has tailwind. So it using the attack basically gives itself a shift gear while also increasing the speed for its whole team
Just so you know, Roaring Moon always had Scale Shot in its movepool. In fact, it was a level up move! The only Pokémon with that distinction.
I dont think anyone is going to use shiftry but we are going to see some niche fun teams
I don't play competitive but cannot WAIT to beg my friends to battle me just so I can use him one time haha, always been one of my favourite mons
It's also very much fitting... Making you wonder why the Hoppip line didn't get it also, as they're THE wind-riding Pokémon.
@@ewormXD Jumpluff with wind rider actually soyns busted
@@iancastro1327 Hardly busted. With base Atk of 55, it's basically just the immunities that really benefit it, allowing it to disrupt with Sleep Powders and Encores and Strength Saps a bit easier. I don't think it would've been anything close to "too much" of a buff.
Thats what they said about brambleghast too
I don't think it'll be gamebreaking, but Infernape having access to Aura Sphere makes special sets actually viable. Weavile getting Knock Off back also gives it *one* thing that sets it apart from Chien-Pao, so maybe it can find teams that prefer it. Also, I wonder how Vacuum Wave being a TM will effect both of them.
Fun fact, Kommo-o’s Clangorus Soul works with Throat Spray. Meaning you can get +1 in attack, defence, special defence and speed, then +2 in special attack too :)
I’ve been using Clangorus Soul, Drain Punch, Draco Meteor and Ghost Tera Blast
My fire monkey did not receive any love with these new buffs, literally the only sinnoh starter that stays the same
Not only did Empoleon get a better ability, it now has access to Air Slash, which might make it a powerhouse.
It still won’t be meta tbh
What does air slash contribute to empoleon? We don't have max airstream anymore
@@Veinelso It's decent coverage and can proc flinches against slower teams. Not exactly a powerhouse move, but it has some merit. Helps it deal with fighting and grass types if it's locked in against those.
When the heck did gaining Air Slash make ANY Pokemon relevant except Togekizz? I swear do these people even play the game?
Air slash sucks. It’s speed is too low to really use its flinching effect and it’s just a weak move without stab
I think Gliscor at least warranted a mention, seeing as he got, High Horsepower, Tailwind, Dual Wingbeat, Crabhammer, and Scale Shot. Also Gliscor still has Knock Off. While this isn't going make Gliscor dethrone Lando-T because he's still Lando-T, they are still notable positives Gliscor has over Lando-T. So it might get a decent niche as Lando-T, but you also want it to have Tailwind.
2 months later:
Gliscor got banned on Smogon OU
Shiftry getting Wind Rider makes a lot of sense thematically and is also just really damn good overall. I love it.
torterra + loaded dice + rock blast + bullet seed + headlong rush + shell smash = epic build
What tera did you make it I made mine rock to resist fire but i thinking water because not everyone runs freeze dry and it naturally scares electric Pokémon
Rock, its really good for counter weaknesses, and boosts rock blast water is not a bad choice defensively but you miss the attack boost from tera type (maybe you need to use tera blast)
@quercusroburx you ain't wrong I went with rock to boost the rock blast since you keep your previous stab right
Haven’t had a chance to play recently but will definitely have to try this out! Torterra is my favourite ‘mon, so I’m super glad it got a buff. Thanks for the tip!
@Edrysian pair it up with Indeedee(Female) Psychic Surge with a light clay
Light Screen
Reflect
Follow Me the 4th move can be whatever you want and since Psychic terrain is on field you get protection from priority moves
Its bananas that Torterra doesn't get Spiky Shield, I mean just look at him
I see our spiky turt not getting a move it absolutely should, and raise you an Ampharos without Tail Glow
I think, Iron Valiant getting Vaccum Wave is at least a honorable mention, having a stab SpecAtk priority move makes its Special atk set bit more interesting.
Roaring Moon actually had Scale Shot before the DLC and was the only Pokemon to learn it by level up
I love empoleon, i always wished he was a physical attacker, especially with his pokedex detailing how empoleon would cleave through icebergs with its steel wings.
I love him too and yeah that makes more sense!
It wouldn't change anything, but it still doesn't even learn the move Steel Wing naturally
@@anmspafan7855 kyurem black without ice punch moment
Wolfey I don't play Pokémon, but I still watch every one of your videos. Idk how you do it. Every video is entertaining thank you so much.
Finally, shiftry is immune to Silver Wind :)
Literally why did they get rid of silver wind?? I'm STILL trying to figure out why they made the weird choice to get rid of silver wind because now special bug types in game use struggle bug until like 25 levels later and get bug buzz. Streamlining the move pools was a weird move for competitive gameplay (no pursuit or hidden power) but it's also odd for playthroughs where moves like Mirror Shot or Ominous Wind were meant to be small improvements to your moves as you go through, and it felt good to learn new small improvements that felt like your mons leveling up were actually getting stronger other than raw stats. Now it can feel like you jump from moves that are basically the 'tackle' of a specific type, to moves like Wood Hammer or Psychic in terms of BP with little change in between. Sorry for the rant, your comment just reminded me of that.
Also Signal Beam. Why on earth did they get rid of signal beam. Especially with the loss of hidden power psychic types got hella boned in coverage
14:40 Kilowattrel already had access to Weather Ball I’m pretty sure, via egg moves
4:26 “Explosion if you wanna go boom”
-Wolfey 2023
Stuff that Wolfey probably didnt know or should've mentioned:
- i believe scizor already had dual wingbeat b4 the dlc
- x scissor does get boosted by sharpness NOW (dont remember if it did in thw first place)
- torterra gets headlong rush now
- infernape as a sp.atker is buffed because it gets aura sphere now AND vacuume wave
- a lot of pokemon got vacuume wave. Like a lot of them.
And that's all i can remember of what I know already/learned about new stuff in the dlc. There's probably oyher stuff, but either i forgot about it or havent learned they got this move or wutevr.
Yeah even though Mach Punch is better because of Iron Fists, Vacuum Wave is still quite decent but Aura Sphere is definitely a big one because the only other special fighting move it got was Focus Miss and I 100% would take Aura Sphere with that guranteed damage over that
Don't forget that Infernape also FIANLLY got access to Drain Punch meaning it now has STAB Iron Fist boosted Drain Punch for recovery.
@@Gotenhanku since when are you going to recover with a glass canon like Infernape???
@@aerostar1334 I mean he is fast maybe you OHKO'd a mon with Flare Blitz and then you can recover the recoil using Drain Punch on the next mon. The main thing is that it's a buff Infernape never had. Might not be a useful buff but a buff is still a buff.
@@Gotenhanku lol
Tyranitar with knock off with the rock Ogerpon seems really fun. Being able to boost both ogerpon their defense and special defender and being able to follow me grass attacks or spores can be pretty decent
Now just waiting for the “Why Torterra is a menace in competitive” video back from his starter tier list 😂
Maybe the biggest buff is the friends we meet along the way
*insert Patrick Star boo gif here*
Cringe....I hate this word....
I really hope they buff more Pokémon in the next DLC. One that stands out is Flygon - who has no hidden ability, despite Trapinch having one. Maybe Tough Claws, or Sand Force?
I don't know why they're allergic to giving Levitate pokemon a second abillity
@@joshuab3918Weezing also only has Levitate for the longest time until Gen 8, even if it was partially cause of it’s Galatians form
I've had scale shot on Roaring Moon since release, it's a move reminder move. I'd love to see it used somehow
It’s the one and only mon to get it via level up which is newt
The idea of tera normal Kommo-o using Boomburst also intrigues me, especially if it manages to set up with throat spray first.
I am so happy for Shiftry getting a new ability. I loved using it on Sun Teams in Gen 3, and getting some sort of new use in Gen 9 is very exciting for me.
the true buff was wolvey
The true buff was the friends we made along the way
Torterra was a beast then and now it's a monster!! Let's go!!
“Fighting types like Urshifu and…… Urshifu”
Honestly though
Now imagine if Torterra got Unburden as its hidden ability. Never gonna happen, but I find it kinda funny to think about
could you even imagine an unburden shell smash pokémon? With white herb that's like 4 times speed with one move and double attack, crazy
@@mme.veronica735 Shuckle chads... we will rise.
I can see why they didn’t give Torterra Unburden considering they already gave it to Sceptile.
@railfaneric7107 You say that as if they didn't give Protean to THREE starters.
(Technically Cinderace's is called Libero, but it does the same thing)
That megaman background music sure pumped me up. This elevated an already excellent video.
Throat chop is pretty good control against kommo-o, especially with boomburst
i felt that double sucker punch in pterrain at 2:49
Zapdos getting weather ball is nice to buff its coverage on a weather team. On a rain team it can run Hurricane/Thunder/Weather Ball and potentially tailwind if paired with Politoed instead of Pelliper. Also kinda neat on hail teams for an ice move to smack Landorus/Ursaluna.
My boy Torterra! I love him so much. Best Pokémon of all Time!!!
Respect to Wolfey for actually putting out a video with useful info and analysis instead of just rushing a vid put with facts we can all read on Bulbapedia.
This us why you deserve a million more subs.
so how good is this pokemon now?
wolfey: "its at least worth considering"
Love the rain code music playing in the background during the Torterra section
Someone at game freak became obsessed with grass type this dlc
I’ve been trying to make an ogerpon team and I’m getting confused on what to do. This video is kinda helpful for building a doubles team. Thanks!
“And the fighting types like Urshifu and Urshifu”
I mean he isn’t wrong
dude that's amizing that in the rilaboom segment the background music is king konga theme from the crypt of the necrodancer!
12:44 On the topic of Scald, one Pokémon that did get Scald back is Pincurchin. I know it isn’t exactly the most useful Pokémon around, but I’ve enjoyed using it back in Reg A to screw up the, at the time, common Indeedee-F and Armarouge lead with Electric Surge while also messing with Torkoal via Rain Dance and shutting down Amoongus’s Spore with the Electric Terrain. Having Scald back gives it the chance to effectively increase its physical bulk by burning the opponent, which can buy it more time alive and able to switch in and set Electric Terrain. Blocking Sleep tends to be a big deal, whether it’s Spore, Rest, or the Hail Mary Hypnosis plays, and some Pokémon (particularly the future Paradox Pokémon) benefit a ton from the presence of Electric Terrain. Given that Miraidon currently isn’t legal yet and Tapu Koko isn’t available yet, Pincurchin is the only reliable Electric Terrain setter, and having Scald back, at least if you ask me, definitely increases its viability.
Whoever is doing the editing and threw in the Rain Code music, you are seen and appreciated.
I'm surprised you didnt mention the rock blast and bullet seed combination with shell smash, loaded dice on torterra thats now possible. keep up your content, always sorted and informative!
I wish they'd give buffs to Pokémon that are truly unusable like Illumise and Volbeat.
simple, Reg E remove Tornadus, Talonflame, Murcrow etc so that those two are the only ones with Prio Tailwind
you're welcome 😂
I tried using Volbeat with tail glow and max sp atk investment during the story, then I failed to KO an NPC trainer’s pokémon even after the boost and a level advantage, so I boxed it again. 😐
@@chillcloak Try using Illumise instead it's special attack is higher with 73, still not high but better than Volbeat's special attack of 47. Volbeat is more of a physical attacker with 73 attack.
Volbeat has some niche play that if set up correctly can be dangerous, usuallly sash, then prankster tail glow turn 1 and baton pass into chi Ty/ flutter mane turn 2 for an insane spatk boost, otherwise they’re useless
@@PeterGriffin11does Illumise get Tail Glow? I remember in older gens it didn’t when Volbeat did
My man used the Konga Conga Kappa for the music monkey Rillaboom, i love it so much
Switcheroo Infernape is interesting, it can get decent usage out of choice band, specs, and scarf or if it has a bad matchup, it can swap items to mess up opponent sets. Def situational and infernape still isn’t amazing, but I still think it’s worth a mention
Gtassy glide with the grassy terrain boost gets becomes 71 base power aprox, so it still deals good damage
I'm really curious as to how Ogrepon with the Water Mask + Follow me would do as it has Water Absorb and would counter Rapid Urshifu's signature move, and would definitely be my go to idea if I was playing comp or even wanted to play the DLC, but it looks like it'd physically hurt me to play with that level of awful frame rate
I wish we had more time to really explore this new meta more. October is gonna be a wild month!
I looked up wind attacks and pokewiki (like german bulbapedia) says sandstorm is one. Does it activate wind rider at the end of every turn it's active or only when used or does it interact like tailwind?
Wasnt scale shot Roaring Moon's signature move b4 dlc? All other pokemon got it removed from gen8 to gen9, but moon had it as lvl up if im not mistaken
ok putting king conga boss music during rillaboom was pretty funny lol
Kilowattrel has had weather ball since the start.
Empoleon also got roost
thats more of a singles buff.
Id love to hear about Grotle’s usage in 2015. I know clefairy and dusclops are good preevolutions but I would like to hear about any others.
Iron valiant now has vaccum wave, before he has only shadow sneak for priority
Wolfe calling it “roaring mid” at 20:42 ? A little Freudian slip there?😂😂
I'm so happy Empoleon might be used competitively
Kilowattrel has been able to run weatherball since launch through egg moves
hey thats me :D
thanks for the cameo, wolfe & team
The editor has based VG music taste, Undertale, Raincode, and Great Ace Attorney OST❤
It’s really disappointing Koraidon did not receive solar blade
would've been really funny if Korai got Blade and Mirai got Rising Voltage
@slimestudios9748 rising voltage Miraidon would be absolutely disgusting. I'm pretty sure there might not be a reason to use electro drift over rising voltage in this hypothetical scenario
@@conorb.1901there might be a use against electric weak Mons, but Rising voltage would easily be the go to because of the sheer damage it gives
Koraidon does not need solar blade.
@@Castersvarogeven against electric weak mons it might not be the best. I have not run calcs or anything, but I don't think there's any Water type that would resist a 140 BP stab terrain and ability boosted move with double damage coming from a mon with 135 Sp attack. Tankier Flying mons would be more resistant due to not being grounded and thus not causing Rising Voltage to increase in power while Electro Drift might pickup the 1HKO, but I don't think there's any relevant Flying type this tanky in the game right now (maybe the Flying cover legendaries if they come back in the DLC, with Lugia in particular being able to tank even more thanks to Multiscale).
Wasn't expecting the Steel Samurai theme, but I'm glad it's here.
Video Idea: Pokemon showdown but your team is under leveled for example like level 40 so your 10 levels lower then your opponent
huh i can hear rain code music when youre talking about torterra. its good music so im glad to hear it
Every new video from this man is always exciting and makes me want to play Pokemon even more
Big fan of the Ghost Trick theme while talking about the move Poltergeist
Kilowattrel already had weather ball prior to it becoming a TM via breeding
Drum Beating looking rly good rn after Grassy Glide nerfs
the ghost trick music when you started talking about ceruledge 😂
Incineroar+rilaboom+empolion seems like it would be a fun fire water grass core with pledges
I love hearing music of games I've played lately in the video! Namely Ghost Trick and Raincode
2 wolfey videos in one week? I must be dreaming
I'm gonna get the dlc soon, looks mad fun!
20:41 " roaring mid" 😂
I'm just happy Infernape has Drain Punch outside of Legends Arceus
In regards to Baxcalibur receiving play.
It’s already been banned from OU on Showdown because of the fact it is an Ice Type and therefore has an easy time switching in and setting up with Swords Dance.
This is due to Ninetales with Aurora Veil AND the Defence Boost from Snow. Before the ban, I ran a team with Empoleon, Chandelure, Glimmora and Corviknight, and it worked surprisingly well.
this is about vgc
The Patreon is seriously so worth it, amazing content!!
Empoleon also got great moves access to Roost Haze and got Knock Off back
Great video as always. I. Love when you do these; they’re super helpful for the entire community. That said, Kilowattrel already had access to weather ball before. That was the first team my buddy and I ran in SV. tera water volt absorb Kilowattrel in the rain. Fun stuff!
3:38 The Steel Bug Samurai! Warrior of Neo Olde Johto
i love seeing all the other poketubers getting a shout out!!
I'm getting empoleon and torterra. Finally they are back I love them!!!!
I completely missed that Gallade gets Solar Blade after this dlc. Now I really want to make a Torkoal team with him
Roaring mid has had Scale shot for a while now, I know this because I tried running a white herb acrobatics set, he did not turn out well, but if it’s because of the set or because of my experience, I do not remember lol
I was fighting an Empoleon on Showdown recently (Gen 9 National Dex). I have a Kartana with attack lowered by Intimidate. It’s in front of my Hatterene that knows I have Mystical Fire, switches out into Empoleon, and when the Mystical Fire lowers its Sp. Attack, I see Competitive. And I’m happy! Defiant never really suited Empoleon since, while it can be good mixed, it’s obviously more Sp. Attack focused.
It always makes me smile that of all the Gen 3 pokemon to be eternally relevant it's Torkoal XD