@@TheSektor13 there's enough space, but it may need redesigning slightly to give enough space for the heatsink on the nvme. Also: the fan inside is 5mm thick. Most fans on the market are larger. To be fair, I don't think it's "absurdly loud", it's just that it's noticeable when gaming.
It was parodying "The heard around the world". Search the video "Sony 299", one of the shortest, most brilliant piece of marketing that exists to this date.
@@TeamPandory Hey just a quick question, I'm really leaning torwards a mini (gaming) pc. What would be a great budgetable price (under 1k) but can satisfy the quota? Also can I replace the 2x 16gb DDR 5 ram for a 2 x 32gb DDR 5 ram? And if so which do you recommend on that? Please and thank you.
@@m.3.3.w It depends, what games do you personally play? - Yes you can add, or replace the DDR5, even add another stick of NVME to increase the storage.
@@TeamPandory I want to say mostly indie and AAA but let's just go with a mix of and use Cyberpunk 2077 as a benchmark with 4k (or close to). Whatever your opinion is on this matter is fine just get some something that I can buy in the near future. And of course thanks for replying!
@@m.3.3.w Indie, AAA and Cyberpunk 2077, and 4K. Well if you want Cyberpunk 2077 (very demanding) and then in 4K (EXTREMELY demanding), I need to be frank and say it's not currently possible in a mini pc alone. You'll be needing a computer with a graphics board, and I think that'll be the case even with the arrival with the newer chips this year. Consider that currently, even the top tier of Ryzen mini pcs can't run Cyberpunk 2077 at a constant 60fps+ in 1080p / medium settings. Either: 1. Lower expectations and play what they can at 720p / 1080p, or 2. Look for a Small PC + GPU pairing (like the Acemagic TANK03 that uses an intel CPU paired with a Geforce 3060M)
1. Great song. 2. Good value mini PC, though I would love to see these companies offer an option with RAM and without SSD. 3. I love how we see more and more mini PC with 2 NVME connections. 4. Good video. PS. Are ALL these companies incapable or unwilling to create an easy way to reach the CPU fan to clean it and repaste it? FFS.
Actually one of the best mini pc on the market is the GMKtec K8 with a r7 8845hs for $550 rn! Edit: oh you are the guy testing some games for the 8845hs, thanks a lot for that and for having test diablo 4!
@@TeamPandoryBtw did you tried to upgrade the fan of one of those? Was thinking bout it And do you advice to get the barebone one and buy better ram/nvme or the stock ones are great? Im happy w my k8 but i could get a k6 for an retro emulation device
@@Lantement the k6 is pretty much the same as the k8, with less ai cores and a ever so slightly clock speed. To be fair, it's excellent 👌 Regarding what's best, I'd check and compare prices. You'd also need to count Windows too, as gmktec are completely legit with their Windows licenses.
Great little PC for the money, DO wish they would source better memory, sure the other stuff works, but people put faith in a brand. I'd pay a couple of dollars more for known MVE and Mem..As always Tim, fun info filled video..And from a Manc, who would have thought :) (Actually I liked it when I went there, nice folks).
ADATA is a reputable Japanese brand. The nvme tho, ummmm 🤔 How did you figure out I was from (near) Manc? Had some fun times in that city. Mainly in the students union at gigs 😁
@@TeamPandory You showed Manchester in a couple of vids and mentioned it at least once. Relax good sir, not an Internet stalker :) I used to be in Leeds, Manchester and Barnsley a lot as Maplin (my old employer) had a warehouse in Barnsley and the staff took me out a few times. I'm normally 'dan sarf' just on the edge of West London. Originally from Belfast :) At least the RAM is a known brand..
Put it into context against other Ryzen mini pcs and it's cheap, for sure. Half that price would barely cover the nvme, ddr5 and windows 11 pro license. I'll keep prodding to see if they can sell computers to ship with Linux distros. That could cut costs a little.
I recently just purchased it due to its low price (it was $230 the version with 16Gb of ram and 512Gb of storage) and the truth is that I was looking for a device that will take me out of stress due to how slow my laptop was Intel Core I3 1115G4. Also looking at its specifications I know that it will give me excellent performance
It'll be a good noticeable jump from the 2-core i3, in both CPU and GPU performance. - And HOLY CRAP you got a great deal there! :-D Just remember the GPU shares the 16gb memory, so you may want to consider upgrading the RAM in the future.
Thing is, that gap between igpus Vega 8 and 660M is smaller, than between 660M and 680M. I would consider 680M as minimum, if you plan to play RDR2 or Cyberpunk 2077 on better than low details. Just price of GMKtec K5 with Ryzen 7735HS(680M) is about 80USD more expensive, which is quite a lot.
Is it possible to set a lower power limit and manage C-states in the BIOS? I need to run one most of the time under very light load, if possible with the fan OFF: that means the lowest possible power consumption. I could go with a fanless N100, but with that I'd miss the power when I need it.
Yes, the second area is in the middle but the fan gets in the way of the heatsink. Saying that, you won't really need a heatsink on the nvme if you have a fan blasting air onto it
@@QienCho5566 PS4 emulation is in its early stages. Even if the computer was capable it'd be full of graphical glitches and the current compatibility of games is very low.
Hello, my m6 just arrived and noticed that the GPU shows AMD Radeon Graphics. I am expecting to see 660m but that is not case. I installed the latest AMD adrenalin driver but still dont show 660m. I worry that my m6 might be fake?
@@leklektv9874 if adrenaline loads up, then I doubt your computer will be fake. If you had no Ryzen / Radeon, it simply would error at the install. Try checking windows system device manager, hwinfo64, and again in the adrenaline driver (scroll through the hardware section to find any word of the 660m) - if you need more hands on help, come to the discord and post some screenshots and I can compare.
@@TeamPandory ok thanks for the reply. I see 660m model in hwinfo64. But is it same as yours that it doesnt show in gpu task manager, device manager and dxdiag? All these 3 only shows amd radeon graphics but in hwinfo64 it indeed show 660m
@@leklektv9874 I think the 660m is more of a stepping stone from the Vega to the upper Radeon, so it's likely that AMD decided to just skip the information (and the other options that the 680m may have over it) in adrenaline. I'll take a look in a few minutes. Just waking up right now
The universal size comparison tool, the teabag.
Best summary of all time! 12:18 really creative! Thank you! I want to know how you did this, but i don´t ask! ;) Perfect!
Great channel and music at the end is really awesome.
I have one question, is there enough space inside to change 40mm fan with lets say 60mm ?
@@TheSektor13 there's enough space, but it may need redesigning slightly to give enough space for the heatsink on the nvme.
Also: the fan inside is 5mm thick. Most fans on the market are larger.
To be fair, I don't think it's "absurdly loud", it's just that it's noticeable when gaming.
such a banger at the end ahah
good review - looks like a big channel
@@dirkvanderven8452 thanks 🙏 trying to compete with the higher ups, but it's pretty tough 😁
Love the Intro, what next go for president.
It was parodying "The heard around the world".
Search the video "Sony 299", one of the shortest, most brilliant piece of marketing that exists to this date.
Yaah that is indeed a good deal !
@@WickedGamerCollector not bad eh? 😂
I thought I'd never be surprised by youtube until this song...
@@r0galik wahey! 😂
That outro blew my socks off!
@@simonced wahey! Thanks 👍
Cant wait for the new Strix Halo Ryzen Mini PCs
I love you. Just want to tell you that. And thanks for all the tech reviews!
❤️ ✌️ - I'm glad you like them 😁
@@TeamPandory Hey just a quick question, I'm really leaning torwards a mini (gaming) pc. What would be a great budgetable price (under 1k) but can satisfy the quota? Also can I replace the 2x 16gb DDR 5 ram for a 2 x 32gb DDR 5 ram? And if so which do you recommend on that? Please and thank you.
@@m.3.3.w It depends, what games do you personally play? - Yes you can add, or replace the DDR5, even add another stick of NVME to increase the storage.
@@TeamPandory I want to say mostly indie and AAA but let's just go with a mix of and use Cyberpunk 2077 as a benchmark with 4k (or close to). Whatever your opinion is on this matter is fine just get some something that I can buy in the near future. And of course thanks for replying!
@@m.3.3.w Indie, AAA and Cyberpunk 2077, and 4K. Well if you want Cyberpunk 2077 (very demanding) and then in 4K (EXTREMELY demanding), I need to be frank and say it's not currently possible in a mini pc alone. You'll be needing a computer with a graphics board, and I think that'll be the case even with the arrival with the newer chips this year.
Consider that currently, even the top tier of Ryzen mini pcs can't run Cyberpunk 2077 at a constant 60fps+ in 1080p / medium settings.
Either: 1. Lower expectations and play what they can at 720p / 1080p, or 2. Look for a Small PC + GPU pairing (like the Acemagic TANK03 that uses an intel CPU paired with a Geforce 3060M)
Love the price announcement skit.
You might be the only person who got the joke :-D
I just bought one because of this video, im replacing my main pc of prodesk 800 g4 mini with this, hope its a good upgrade
1. Great song.
2. Good value mini PC, though I would love to see these companies offer an option with RAM and without SSD.
3. I love how we see more and more mini PC with 2 NVME connections.
4. Good video.
PS. Are ALL these companies incapable or unwilling to create an easy way to reach the CPU fan to clean it and repaste it? FFS.
@@TrusteftTech I'll pass on your thoughts. Maybe they can do something regarding CPU access 😇
@@TeamPandory For me it's the number one issue stopping me from buying a mini PC. Other than having no money now I mean. Thank you.
@emptyenergy3750 Exactly. I don't know the specific model, but making it difficult only makes it a worse product.
Bought it without ram and ssd from gmktec, will put some lexar ssd and Kingston ram in it
Actually one of the best mini pc on the market is the GMKtec K8 with a r7 8845hs for $550 rn!
Edit: oh you are the guy testing some games for the 8845hs, thanks a lot for that and for having test diablo 4!
Yup 👍
Tbh I prefer the k6 over the k8. The ever so slightly higher clocks on the k8 create a bit more heat.
Either way, solid computers 💯
@@TeamPandoryBtw did you tried to upgrade the fan of one of those? Was thinking bout it
And do you advice to get the barebone one and buy better ram/nvme or the stock ones are great? Im happy w my k8 but i could get a k6 for an retro emulation device
@@Lantement the k6 is pretty much the same as the k8, with less ai cores and a ever so slightly clock speed. To be fair, it's excellent 👌
Regarding what's best, I'd check and compare prices. You'd also need to count Windows too, as gmktec are completely legit with their Windows licenses.
Great little PC for the money, DO wish they would source better memory, sure the other stuff works, but people put faith in a brand. I'd pay a couple of dollars more for known MVE and Mem..As always Tim, fun info filled video..And from a Manc, who would have thought :) (Actually I liked it when I went there, nice folks).
ADATA is a reputable Japanese brand. The nvme tho, ummmm 🤔
How did you figure out I was from (near) Manc? Had some fun times in that city. Mainly in the students union at gigs 😁
@@TeamPandory ADATA is from Taipei Taiwan actually. But they are a reputable brand.
@@TeamPandory You showed Manchester in a couple of vids and mentioned it at least once. Relax good sir, not an Internet stalker :) I used to be in Leeds, Manchester and Barnsley a lot as Maplin (my old employer) had a warehouse in Barnsley and the staff took me out a few times. I'm normally 'dan sarf' just on the edge of West London. Originally from Belfast :) At least the RAM is a known brand..
here's a like for that epic ending ahaha
Dang, that "$299" gives me the worst kind of flashbacks as a Sega guy.
Tea bags for scale. Nice =)
Looking to get this unit for my daughter. She mainly plays Roblox and other small games on her iPad. Hoping it will last her for a while
I guess it's all relative, but I don't think "cheap" when I see $289. It'd need to be at least half that price before I'd even consider it.
Put it into context against other Ryzen mini pcs and it's cheap, for sure.
Half that price would barely cover the nvme, ddr5 and windows 11 pro license.
I'll keep prodding to see if they can sell computers to ship with Linux distros. That could cut costs a little.
I recently just purchased it due to its low price (it was $230 the version with 16Gb of ram and 512Gb of storage) and the truth is that I was looking for a device that will take me out of stress due to how slow my laptop was Intel Core I3 1115G4. Also looking at its specifications I know that it will give me excellent performance
It'll be a good noticeable jump from the 2-core i3, in both CPU and GPU performance. - And HOLY CRAP you got a great deal there! :-D
Just remember the GPU shares the 16gb memory, so you may want to consider upgrading the RAM in the future.
Nice work. Do you just have a box full of mini's at this point?
Yes, we do 😂
Thing is, that gap between igpus Vega 8 and 660M is smaller, than between 660M and 680M. I would consider 680M as minimum, if you plan to play RDR2 or Cyberpunk 2077 on better than low details. Just price of GMKtec K5 with Ryzen 7735HS(680M) is about 80USD more expensive, which is quite a lot.
Are you able to use faster RAM with this or will it always default to the 4800MHz?
Is it possible to set a lower power limit and manage C-states in the BIOS? I need to run one most of the time under very light load, if possible with the fan OFF: that means the lowest possible power consumption. I could go with a fanless N100, but with that I'd miss the power when I need it.
I really love this mini pc, but I’ve seen some videos in youtube that some of them wont last a year.
if that is the case, then you return it for full refund / get another one as it's covered by warranty.
@@craigprocter1232 If you buy direct from China, that might be a load of laughs though.
Thanks for the review. If it can't run on a 12 volt battery, it isn't that interesting unfortunately
Bought for 231 dollars on Lazada ph. For 16GB version. Crazy low price. Weird its more expensive on Aliexpress or directly the Manufacturer.
I read that if I add a second NVMe with a heatsink, the cover won’t close. Can you confirm this?
Yes, the second area is in the middle but the fan gets in the way of the heatsink. Saying that, you won't really need a heatsink on the nvme if you have a fan blasting air onto it
Can it play mmos like final fantasy 14 or ESO or throne and liberty with no problem?
Question, can this device emulation PS4?
@@QienCho5566 PS4 emulation is in its early stages. Even if the computer was capable it'd be full of graphical glitches and the current compatibility of games is very low.
will it play balders gate?
Hello, my m6 just arrived and noticed that the GPU shows AMD Radeon Graphics. I am expecting to see 660m but that is not case. I installed the latest AMD adrenalin driver but still dont show 660m. I worry that my m6 might be fake?
@@leklektv9874 if adrenaline loads up, then I doubt your computer will be fake. If you had no Ryzen / Radeon, it simply would error at the install.
Try checking windows system device manager, hwinfo64, and again in the adrenaline driver (scroll through the hardware section to find any word of the 660m)
- if you need more hands on help, come to the discord and post some screenshots and I can compare.
@@TeamPandory ok thanks for the reply. I see 660m model in hwinfo64. But is it same as yours that it doesnt show in gpu task manager, device manager and dxdiag? All these 3 only shows amd radeon graphics but in hwinfo64 it indeed show 660m
@@leklektv9874 I think the 660m is more of a stepping stone from the Vega to the upper Radeon, so it's likely that AMD decided to just skip the information (and the other options that the 680m may have over it) in adrenaline.
I'll take a look in a few minutes. Just waking up right now
@@TeamPandoryOk thank you, i just posted a screenshot in the discord questions chat as well. Thanks again.
@@leklektv9874 no worries. Hakuna matata
Can anyone tell me if the type c input is thunderbolt