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  • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
    @BudgetBuildsOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    I have been streaming near Daily over on the Second Channel: th-cam.com/channels/ocyv0mUlBWzFdNl2iWUUeA.html
    Come check it out, as I am moving over from Twitch to TH-cam out of convenience at the moment

    • @CLR438
      @CLR438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should include the brand and the model of the CPU/GPU you are testing in the title of these videos.

    • @kanvarmurray2207
      @kanvarmurray2207 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plz find a budget 1440p gpu plz

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sweetschannel7564: 2:48

    • @RedXons
      @RedXons 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why don't you use a SSD with a preinstalled Windows 7, Steam and all your games and utilities you use? With Windows 7 and up this works almost all the time and it just initializes the drivers at first boot. Saves you a lot of time with installing windows and downloading Steam/browsers/games. Only thing you need to do is install the newest GPU driver available and you're good to go.

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RedXons: Changing Windows installs regularly from machine to machine really messed them up and makes it so benchmarks may be inaccurate.
      I copy my games to the system, but it's always worth a fresh install so you guys know what to expect, rather than me blaming a system, when actually it's a dodgy Windows Install at fault

  • @paladingeorge6098
    @paladingeorge6098 5 ปีที่แล้ว +980

    I cant wait to see you ten years from now saying, "The Old Ryzen 3 2200G will sometimes get you to the start menu of Metro Pubnight Legends, but it will promptly crash when getting into a game".

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      "AMD Threadripper had so many cores...but sadly, it turned out that having a lot of cores wasn't enough to keep the chips relevant, once 3D stacking caught on."

    • @CossackHD
      @CossackHD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      @@CaveyMoth "once CPUs got ability to run single thread on multiple physical cores, all past generation CPUs became irrelevant and 4GHz 32 core CPUs recked 5.2GHz 8 core, regardless of whether it was new or older software without any multicore optimisations"

    • @marko_jack_
      @marko_jack_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Well I am afrad you will not see that, because even Nehalem CPU processors from ten years ago can run games with high end gpus with 60-100 fps on maximum settings, Ryzen is future proof and even with dx 12 vulkan implementations, it will become even more than usable, because Vulkan and dx12 will even use less cpu than dx11 nowdays... The Biggest issues of Core 2 Duos and later with Phenom series was much lower IPC, much lower single thread performance, and lack of instructions sets, Nehalem, Sandy Bridge, FX from AMD and now Ryzen all that CPU's support all required SSE instructions set and still can be very usable in the future...
      About gpu's it is similiar situation-AMD still use 8 years old architecture, even now you can use HD 7870-7970 for even newest titles (HD 7870 will run on low 1080p, but hd 7970 with overclock will easily hit 50-60 fps on high ultra), AMD have plan to use gcn arhitecture even in future, so it is not about "ten years or couple of years", it is about technology, if it is futureproof then it will last even more than 10 years...

    • @the123king
      @the123king 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CossackHD ....that's as likely as it is to drink a cup of coffee before you've made it, for exactly the same reasons

    • @CossackHD
      @CossackHD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@the123king there is technology for that. Look up Coreteks on youtube and "moving beyond Moore's law". Intel bought up a company that managed to run X86 and ARM on same hardware while also processing single thread on several cores. Scheduler with advanced AI manages to destribute instructions across several cores.
      There is another company with similar tech - they managed to achieve "thread splitting" on Android, thus improving framerate and frametime stability in 3D applications (what was demoed), and are negotiating with "someone" (most likely with AMD).

  • @TechoGames
    @TechoGames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    The Nostalgic Hit me with OST at the start

    • @pottcat3918
      @pottcat3918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was always tired of waiting for the heal

    • @fhddhdhk9319
      @fhddhdhk9319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "Hope to see you again."
      "Again...what do you mean by again."

    • @RandomAxe
      @RandomAxe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@fhddhdhk9319 they always want you to get your ass kicked. Even as a kid I thought that was messed up

    • @forza1sra
      @forza1sra 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What's it from? I know I've heard it from somewhere. Edit: Oh Pokemon right?

    • @sillystoic9252
      @sillystoic9252 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got articuno and realised even legendaries aren't very op,good times.

  • @hellrazorforever
    @hellrazorforever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    I still own my old Dual Core Phenom II 555 that was able to be unlocked to a Quad Core B55 and was able to be overclocked to 3.6GHz. What a delightful chip that was

    • @hardwarecollector2097
      @hardwarecollector2097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, i have this one, too. But 160 watts tdp are really a lot. It is still a fast chip, even with only 2 cores.

    • @khwarezmid1399
      @khwarezmid1399 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hardwarecollector2097 It is not 160 tdp. Do you even know how much heat that would generate?

    • @NathanDiepeveen
      @NathanDiepeveen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hardwarecollector2097 you stupid?

    • @hellrazorforever
      @hellrazorforever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@hardwarecollector2097 With a hunk of copper strapped to it and a big a.. industrial fan blowing on it its ok.

    • @QuadTubeChannel
      @QuadTubeChannel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Almost twice the CPU for nothing..awesome. I had a Deneb Athlon II x4 620 that was really a Phenom II x4, however the board had no unlocking options. Still, it was a good CPU even in it's Athlon disguise including being a decent over-clocker. It replaced a Athlon 64 x 2 4000+ and the improvement in performance right across the board was very noticeable. All this without having to change the motherboard.

  • @snake4322
    @snake4322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +465

    I never knew there were 3 core CPUs, just thought we skipped them. Like iPhone 9 or Windows 9.

    • @thomasgabaldon1047
      @thomasgabaldon1047 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Westy we didn't really skip the iPhone 9 we made it the x/10 for the ten years of the iPhone.

    • @Schmoblet
      @Schmoblet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      @@thomasgabaldon1047 what do you mean "we"?

    • @lars2049
      @lars2049 5 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      @@Schmoblet *communism intensifies*😂

    • @thomasgabaldon1047
      @thomasgabaldon1047 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lastgen boi oops I meant they.

    • @thomasgabaldon1047
      @thomasgabaldon1047 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lars Gottschalk lol

  • @TheJomeister
    @TheJomeister 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Dont forget, the xbox360 had a Tri Core Xenon CPU, back in 2005 this was high end Hardware. 1 core was used for background activities (Dashboard etc.), and 2 cores werde used for the actual game.

    • @nbain66
      @nbain66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @3.2GHZ if I remember right. It was pretty great for the time. I was using a 2.4ghz dual core in 2010

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It also had 6-threads.

    • @ZorroComputers
      @ZorroComputers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see a German dude.

    • @LonelyDiggers
      @LonelyDiggers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Wii U's CPU has 3 cores.

  • @Castaa
    @Castaa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I found an abandoned AMD AM3 desktop computer with a single core Athlon in it.
    Just for fun I upgraded it with a Phenom II X3 (Deneb core) on ebay for $11 and added 4 GB of DDR3 RAM and wifi card. I actually sold it for $100 on Craigslist including a 22" inch display. These computers of course still work fine for desktop tasks and have value to some people who can't afford a new system.
    It even played HL2 and Doom 3 quite well at lower resolutions with it's on board AMD graphics.

    • @laharl2k
      @laharl2k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here just the other way around.
      Got an old pc being replaced from a company and upgraded it with a phenom x4 i found in the street.
      I dont really use it. Its just a toy for when i need to rest stuff.
      I love building machines from trash :3

    • @pinkipromise
      @pinkipromise 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      on motherboard graphics. i used it to play left 4dead

    • @GGigabiteM
      @GGigabiteM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I found a trashed AM3 motherboard at the local junk yard with a Cooler Master V8 on it. I thought it was probably going to be some weak dual or quad, because that's usually what I find there, but it turned out to be a Phenom II X6 1100. One of the better buys I've gotten from there, a hex core Phenom for $10.

  • @talonfluff
    @talonfluff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    I wished I had this cpu back then.
    But I was stuck using my AMD athlon 3000+ for 11 years.

    • @MirelRC
      @MirelRC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is it the version with 1.8ghz? Because I had one in the past.

    • @talonfluff
      @talonfluff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MirelRC yep.
      I still have my original cpu somewhere.

    • @MirelRC
      @MirelRC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@talonfluff nice. It was good for it's time. And this is the first cpu that I have ever overclocked. Sadly it died after 2 or 3 years with overclock. Anyway it was old. It died in 2013.

    • @Rockband2991
      @Rockband2991 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I still have an amd athlon 64x2 but mine has windows 10 64 bit on it

    • @MirelRC
      @MirelRC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Rockband2991 how does it run?

  • @purdy9431
    @purdy9431 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I've never had a successful 4 core unlock without instability, but was fun at the time.

    • @badass6300
      @badass6300 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We did skip 5 and 7, 9, 11 and all other odd number cores though, but you can always disable a core XD

    • @screwball992
      @screwball992 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tigercat418 Hmmp why call people names when they don't have the same opinion on something. You only hurt your cause when all you have is insults.

    • @iforgotmyusername0
      @iforgotmyusername0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yup.. thats y 1 was disabled

    • @M9_Prime
      @M9_Prime 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine wouldn’t even unlock

    • @youcanpunchmeintheface
      @youcanpunchmeintheface 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the unlock bricked my bios

  • @Generalkidd
    @Generalkidd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I've never understood what's the difference between Athlon and Phenom CPU's. I saw that both of them had tri-core options but I'm not sure which one is actually more powerful. And is the 8600B the most powerful tri-core CPU out there?

    • @bluescluessuperagent
      @bluescluessuperagent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Phenom was the higher end more powerful line up

    • @Fractal_blip
      @Fractal_blip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bluescluessuperagent as the name implies.

    • @hdauven8434
      @hdauven8434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Depeonds on the generation they're positioned in. Athlon used to be AMD's high-end, but the naming scheme now been reduced to their low-end offering.
      In the Phenom I era, the Athlon's were the dual core CPUs. Phenom was reserved for 3-4 core CPUs. This was probably done due to consumer name familiarity with the Athlons as single and dual core processors.
      In the Phenom II era, the Athlon's were mostly dual cores without L3. In the Phenom II line there were 2-6 cores available. Two single core Athlons existed called the 160u and 170u, which were mainly there as low power CPUs. AMD introduced a new name for the regular single core CPUs, Sempron.
      For their mobile chips in both the Phenom I and II era, they had the Turion and Athlon series. The Turion series had a wider floating point unit (FPU), going up to 128 bits, while the mobile Athlons had a smaller FPU with 64 bits. This meant that mobile Athlon had less precision with floating point calculations. Later on they also added an Athlon Neo series, which was meant for low power mobile chips.
      AMD reused the Athlon name again with Bulldozer and many of its derivatives, mainly for APUs that had their integrated graphical processing units disabled. Which was it distinctive 'feature'.
      Now with Ryzen, Athlon has been reused sparingly. Mostly for OEMs. Ryzen Athlons have no distinctive features disabled. Some Ryzen 1 Athlons have their boosting algorithm disabled, but most have it enabled. The Athlon name has once again been relegated to the lower end parts.

    • @dikbozo
      @dikbozo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hdauven8434 During the Phenom II era, the Athlon II were the same chips without L3. Some would unlock, I have one that does (full 6 MB L3). There was a full range ofCPUs, from X2, X3 and X4 but no X6 Athlon II. They came with both the 'u' signifier that meant 25W TDP. They also came with the 'e' signifier that meant 45W instead of 95W and 65W and these were mostly the 3 and 4 core chips. I am collecting Athlon II and have several of all 3.

    • @primus711
      @primus711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It started with cpus without a level of cache or just half the amount on both intel and amd then they both started using the names just signifying budget cpus as in they could be any that fits the criteria
      Even the name pentium became a budget cpu name in the end

  • @fordcomputers2997
    @fordcomputers2997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    "Intel Core 2 Trio"

  • @174wolf
    @174wolf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Those "downgraded" Phenoms were quite great - I had an Phenom II X2 555 which unlocked perfectly to full quad-core performance.

  • @vape9546
    @vape9546 5 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Do I hear Pokemon music in the background?

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So that's what it was

    • @vape9546
      @vape9546 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dr. McGoatz Kool glad to know I wasn't trippin

    • @hydrakone
      @hydrakone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      also Dewford Town!

    • @Silexium
      @Silexium 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sapphire, to be exact.

    • @vodliedood3385
      @vodliedood3385 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I literally heard one note and it started playing in my head

  • @justinbeauvais1409
    @justinbeauvais1409 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember when I got my Phenom II x3 720 Black Edition system back in 2009. The thing was awesome. I paired it with an HD 2600XT to begin with, then with an HD 4890 later on. It was about 30% faster than this OG Phenom x3, and overclockable. Stock was 2.8 GHz, but I could push it to 3.4 GHz. Over all it worked really well for everything. In fact, it worked so well that I kept it, and it is my wife's daily driver desktop. With 8GB of RAM and an old Intel 120GB SSD it is a snappy performer and handles her Netflix, Hulu, and TH-cam watching flawlessly. If she ever wanted to game I threw my R9 270X into it when I last upgraded so she has more GPU than the CPU could ever use.

    • @carlc.4714
      @carlc.4714 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am still using the same CPU in my everyday PC at home.

  • @Keanu252
    @Keanu252 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love your content my dude
    recently build my first own PC after you've shown that it's really not that hard and that you don't have to treat hardware like eggs that break at the slightest touch
    keep it up

  • @newspanner9497
    @newspanner9497 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    My first CPU was an AMD Athlon Tri core, served me well!

    • @CossackHD
      @CossackHD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had Athlon 64 X2 3600+ in 2008 and "upgraded" to Athlon X3 6100 later. Should have bought Athlon II X2 with higher clocks.

    • @barrybritcher
      @barrybritcher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pentium 75mhz was my first lmao

    • @BukanIbuMu
      @BukanIbuMu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Celeron 1.80 Ghz was my first

  • @zacknewberry3167
    @zacknewberry3167 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    im watching this on ,y phenom x4 9550 right now.
    "cries in old pc"

    • @cadebarnett9512
      @cadebarnett9512 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Phenom x4 9950 Black Edition right here. Still running like a champ!

    • @fwingebritson
      @fwingebritson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fellow accelerationist I hear ya man, I cannot deal with fast cpu's either. When mine gives out, luckily there will still be duo's and phenoms out there that I can cheaply replace it.

    • @tilburg8683
      @tilburg8683 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      100euros can bring you a long way and 200euros can build you a fully capable system.
      I picked up a FX8350, with some X299 motherboard I think, it's some Asus one, does support overclocking so that's good.
      16GB of 1600MHZ DDR3 ram and a 650W PSU combined with a 550W so basically 1200W PSU, with a lot of fans and a good cooler and case for 100euros, all it would need to play most games on high is a 780TI or 1060 for around 100euros, and that's a game pc that will run most stuff on high for 200euros.

    • @Auberge79
      @Auberge79 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm watching this on Asus android smartphone, but if I wanted to switch to my pc right now, it actually is phenom x3 with 8 gigs of ram. And Linux mint, of course.
      Actually I have another PC, which was Core2Duo 7500 with 6 gigs of ram, recently upgraded to Xeon 771 on 775 :-) thanks AliExpress.
      But I use that phenom PC more often.

    • @tilburg8683
      @tilburg8683 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Old pcs can be great I got a Xeon 3440 780TI oc that can run most games on ultra 60fps.
      And probably with a better psu that would allow overclocking I think 1440P 60fps ultra. is doable ( might be doable if you don't on medium), or 1080P 144fps ultra.
      Not 100% sure but close to it for sure. Just need to spend money on a good psu since 550W isn't enough, the build uses around 500W under full load and I don't think it can actually do 550W and not all the time, I think a 400W build would work better on that psu, which I actually have on a 1045T build that is waiting for a GPU.

  • @mjlancraft
    @mjlancraft 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Had one of those cpu, ran awesome for Linux & still does!

    • @marlon.8051
      @marlon.8051 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      uwu

    • @ozzelot3349
      @ozzelot3349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm told they make nice fileservers.

    • @Sheovion
      @Sheovion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      linux can run fine on a Intel Athom 1GHz im not kidding

    • @true_neutral3378
      @true_neutral3378 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Sheovion I got a netbook with a single core atom running peppermint os, it's not great tbh. The only thing it's good for is text editing, feeding frenzy, and solitaire

    • @Sheovion
      @Sheovion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@true_neutral3378 i had a netbook that the school gived for everyone in 2014, it's a national brand netbook, so it's crap, that thing had a Intel Athom of 1GHZ and struggled to run Windows 7, i will never forgot the day where my little brother tried to play roblox on that thing, and what happened? BLUE SCREEN!

  • @povilasstaniulis9484
    @povilasstaniulis9484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember doing a build using one of these. It was an Athlon X3 425 Rana which unlocked into a perfectly stable quad core Athlon X4 Propus (registering itself as a Phenom though).
    BTW, some Semprons of the day were actually dual core Athlons. And some dual core Athlons were actually Quad core. And also, some Quad core Athlons/Phenoms were actually hexa-core... AMD did some crazy stuff back then.

  • @dannicolbert7741
    @dannicolbert7741 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    In 2008 I bought
    Phemon X3
    2X ATI 3870HD
    6GB DDR 2 800
    750GB HDD
    Windows Vista Ultimate

    • @mihailodavidovic018
      @mihailodavidovic018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Franco Eijo Did you use Windows Vista? Yes, XP is better, but Vista isn't that bad. I have Vista on old PC with Celeron D, 1.5Gb RAM, FX5200 128mb and 2x80gb hdd.

  • @sidebazooka6900
    @sidebazooka6900 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Geforce 6100"
    Dude, everything about this hits my feelings real good

  • @Renopus
    @Renopus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    My first PC from 2007 had a Athlon 64 LE-1620 with 1 Core/Thread clocked at 2.8Ghz. It's okay for what it was, but having only a single core was dreadful at times. Could you do a review of it one day if you can find it?

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe even compare it to something like a Celeron 440, those where the single core thingies from the first line of Core 2 chips. Did some benches against a P4 and the result is pretty tight, both on stock and oc, seeing how some similar AMD would compare would be pretty neat.

  • @MegaStupidMonkeys
    @MegaStupidMonkeys 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    8:54 check yo staging!

  • @MyDarkMe
    @MyDarkMe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I ran my Athlon X3 435 for 10 years.
    The first two stock; then I unlocked my fourth core and clocked it up to 3.6 Ghz.
    Just upgraded last december. Worked like a charm.
    Nowadays it runs in my dads multimedia PC.

  • @hoppstech
    @hoppstech 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Always thought these triple core chips were interesting, simply because Intel hasn't made a triple core chip to compete with it. I wonder how things would be if they kept pushing this lineup (with HT, better IPC, OC-ability, etc)

    • @W1ldTangent
      @W1ldTangent 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were freaks. AMD had a pile of quad-core dies with a defective core, rather than throw them out and take the hit they turned lemons into lemonade and sold them at a nice discount, which the OEMs loved.. and by the later half of the runs they actually started using perfectly functional quad-cores to satisfy their contractual demands.

    • @GGigabiteM
      @GGigabiteM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@W1ldTangent They were doing it all across the line. Hex into quads, quads into 3, 2 or sometimes even single core parts. And duals into single cores. I remember buying a Sempron 130 back in 2012ish and it being able to unlock into a dual core Athlon of some sort and was stable for years until the machine got blown up by a lightning strike. Amazingly, only the motherboard and power supply died, the CPU, RAM and drives were fine. I still have that CPU in my CPU drawer today.

  • @ralexttm4368
    @ralexttm4368 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    hoenn region music, my man... u have taste.

  • @lemusz9750
    @lemusz9750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I used to have Athlon x3 440. when my friends asked about my new computer: "Its dual core, yeah?" i replied like: "actually its 3 cored, so better than dualcore". They were like: "Whadaaaa F. man, that thing doesnt even exist, do u wanna fool us?". In that moment i already knew that i will be a pc pro.

  • @NeonEUC
    @NeonEUC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome video... love how you are now using these old techs to show how good it is for emulation. please keep doing that for future videos :-)

  • @MrBrewsterbuffalo
    @MrBrewsterbuffalo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is something bit amusing about Six core Ryzen processor CCX:es being configured in 3+3 fashion, due to each CCX having one core disabled (whether or not they were faulty) .
    I love your content, BTW. Great to see old and obsolete hardware being benchmarked.

  • @swag-cc4uc
    @swag-cc4uc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can't wait for DX13 to revitalize all old CPU's, even going back to the Pentium D era
    Great video as always

    • @EirikrTinkerTries
      @EirikrTinkerTries 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Swag wait what do you mean you can’t wait for DX13 to revitalize old CPUs?

    • @aai404
      @aai404 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@EirikrTinkerTriesmaybe what he means is better utilization of the cpu in games. For example, DirectX12 uses the cpu better than directx11, so games that support both apis tend to run better on dx12

  • @cloneofclark4374
    @cloneofclark4374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watched on a AMD Phenom II X3 720 Processor (2.81 GHz). Your you-tube video played without any issues. Still my main machine almost a decade later.

    • @carlc.4714
      @carlc.4714 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here bro. ;)

  • @0cyb3r0
    @0cyb3r0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 3rd core is very useful, since even when playing games that use two cores, there is still an extra core left for background processes, so the other two cores are left for the game alone.
    I grew up with the AM3 platform (Athlon II and Phenom II) and the clockrates and IPC gain from the node shrink to 45 mm are great. Whenever I go back home I still game on my old rig with a Phenom II X4 (although I've upgraded - it used to have an Athlon II X2 and a worse GPU).

  • @Dasuud
    @Dasuud 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I owned a Phenom X3 8650, and i fckn loved it, did it's job very well back in the time... :) Anyway, keep up the good work, i really love your videos! :)

  • @cian87
    @cian87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These caused me no end of pain due to SQL Server at the time not understanding core counts that weren't a power of 2 at the time. You had to start the installer then throw components from a service pack in to the install folder during a specific time period as far as I remember

  • @bighams69
    @bighams69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the x3 8600 was my first desktop cpu! All my friends were envious, stuck with their parents pentiums beige boxes. I jused to run minecraft serveres and stuff on it. Worked very well until I got a new one when I entered college. These days the clockspeed really makes it chug behind even some dual cores. It just can't keep up. I tried to upgrade to win 10 but that made it even worse because of the lack of instruction sets.

  • @LNCRFT
    @LNCRFT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The situation in Rimworld reminds me of Assassin's Creed III, where a Core 2 Duo E8500 runs a little better than a Core 2 Quad Q6600.

    • @bookshelffury
      @bookshelffury 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But did a e6600 run it better than a q6600? That's a more fair comparison

  • @KevinGoldLVL
    @KevinGoldLVL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first pc that I bought was a prebuilt Acer with a Phenom x3 and this thing was a respectable beast back in the day, it's was a great pc that I have own for 7 or 8 years! I have upgraded the graphic card 3 times and the ram one time during the ownership. Now I have a Ryzen 5 built that I hope I will keep for a long time too!

  • @Umski
    @Umski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We're still running an AMD Athlon II X3 460 which cost £51.99 in 2013 in a cupboard in the office at work - I was surprised when the M/B (Asrock 960GM-GS3) showed it as being an X4 of the same flavour and ran happily on XP with 4 cores until we upgraded to W10 and now seems to be back to 3 cores - seemed to unlock itself - I might revisit that when I get a chance!

  • @FullyBuffered
    @FullyBuffered 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Splendid works as always. These were certainly an interesting product back in the day, but in the end most people bought a Core 2 chip anyway, I can't blame them :p

  • @LucasCunhaRocha
    @LucasCunhaRocha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I actually had a x2 955 that I managed to unlock all 4 cores, I was so happy, too bad back then multicore didn`t had TOO much of an impact on performance.
    also, I heard that the atlhon 200e can actually be overclocked now with bios updates, is it true? I might buy one to upgrade from my G3258.

    • @LucasCunhaRocha
      @LucasCunhaRocha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Forgot to add, when you test these late 2000's chips, can you try STALKER, crysis and Farcry2/3? It would be a good way to see if chips were good back in the day or if it will make for a cool retro machine.

  • @ingekoshmidder9926
    @ingekoshmidder9926 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have used a Athlon IIx3 (3x3,2 Ghz) 10 Years long. Worked fine for me. Now I've got a FX 8350, it's a difference like Day and Night.

    • @ivangrozny875
      @ivangrozny875 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had an athlon x4 and skipped the bulldozer, now i put in Ryzen 5 1600 and its lean, mean machine.

    • @ingekoshmidder9926
      @ingekoshmidder9926 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ivangrozny875 Meanwile i've got a Ryzen 5 2600, doing the Job.

  • @mohammedturki453
    @mohammedturki453 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad found this channel! Awesome stuff!

  • @tzimhs85
    @tzimhs85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i am actually seeing your video from a 3 core AMD athlon 2 cpu!

  • @lordsmokio
    @lordsmokio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still have one of those Phenom X3 8650s hooked up in my living room as a streaming/web browsing machine. Works great!

  • @baldman5739
    @baldman5739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how he used a Pokémon soundtrack in this vid.

  • @dexthegamer3234
    @dexthegamer3234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gen 3 music 👌
    Well these perform as I expected.
    Wish I saw it performing in more games from around the era tho.

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We already know it'll run any mid 2000s titles perfectly fine. Hexus have a great review on these personally.

    • @dexthegamer3234
      @dexthegamer3234 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BudgetBuildsOfficial alrighty, i'll check out this Hexus guy

  • @Tiger351
    @Tiger351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting stuff, might have to look through your playlist for similar AMD FX series videos. I'm still running an FX 8350 in my daily driver (not much of a gamer myself) and it runs Windows 10 pro great with no issues.

  • @hanifavicinna8218
    @hanifavicinna8218 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have one of this processor
    I got it from my school (My school throw a lot of motherboard with CPU back then) But i only picked up Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P motherboard with AMD Phenom X3 (Newer Phenom I guess) and Radeon HD 7470 and Gigabyte GA-F2A58M-DS2 with AMD A8-6600K. The Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P I gave it to my friends and right now I'm using Gigabyte GA-F2A58M-DS2.

    • @ambigousBarrel
      @ambigousBarrel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had the Asrock version of that motherboard with a A8-5600k, loved overclocking and tweaking with it :)

    • @hanifavicinna8218
      @hanifavicinna8218 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it's awesome. But the processor is producing a lot of heat.

  • @dikbozo
    @dikbozo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kitted out a friend with an Athlon II X3 445. It only lasted im about 8 years until the second motherboard died. He had used 3 or 4 video cards just to play his MMO and WOW fixations. He was very happy with it. So was I due to the few service requests he made. ;)

  • @sixstar2067
    @sixstar2067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had I phenom2 x3 that I got not long after they were released. These chips were known to have possible unlockable cores. Mine didnt unlock an extra core but I was happy with the increase in performance from the 2.8ghz Core2Duo at the time.

  • @HardWhereHero
    @HardWhereHero 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your videos. You try some of the hardware that I actually wonder about. I have a huge inventory of old hardware and have always wanted to pull it out and test it. Don't hafta, just gotta watch your channel. Just found a case full of "cosmetic defect" GTX 780 ti's, they were never shipped out by EVGA due to the coolder missing the "GTX" imprint. Once they hit auction, I got wind of them and picked them all up dirty butt cheap.

  • @LUNATIC75
    @LUNATIC75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used a X3 720 Black Edition for several years before moving up to a X6 1055t. Really loved both of those old CPU's. I felt very 'alternative' back then with my triple core rig...
    Sadly it wouldn't boot in to Windows when unlocked in to some weirdly named quad core.

  • @lettucemayopickleketchup47
    @lettucemayopickleketchup47 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like the game boy Pokémon music in the background i see ur a man of culture as well

  • @Dingbat1967
    @Dingbat1967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have three of these computers and still use them regularly. They are fine for non-gaming tasks and I still can play KSP on them when I feel like it. They run Borlderlands fine and dandy (all versions). I don't play many "A" titles but those that I do play are fine.

  • @tango9917
    @tango9917 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved the pokemon music very nostalgic! I also enjoyed the video i had no idea there was tri core cpus.

  • @stungunnotapplicable1953
    @stungunnotapplicable1953 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 3-core Phenom with an unlockable fourth core. The core actually worked pretty well 99% of the time, as I could keep it unlocked and even running for months on end without issue. But every once in a while, my system would hard shutdown and when it booted back up, the unlock was disabled in the BIOS, and I'd have to turn the unlock feature off and back on to get the fourth core up again. Served me well for a while, in fact all the way up until my current monster build that I spent around two grand on.
    And boy, what a huge leap in performance that was.

  • @stephenbanyar6763
    @stephenbanyar6763 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:01 **Crunch* You hear that?
    That was the sound of nostalgia!

  • @waynerowlinson6177
    @waynerowlinson6177 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was lucky enough to get 2 different Athlon II X3's that unlocked into quad core CPU's. One was an AD 3.1 GHz that unlocked into an Athlon II X3, and the other was an AC 3.3 GHz that unlocked into a Phenom II X4 CPU, both stable. I see someone else already posted that they did the same but the TDP went through the roof. In my case, CPU-Z did show 140W for each processor, which would be close. I remember hooking up my Kill-A-Watt meter, and the power usage did go up quite a bit. I used the "Phenom II" for a while gaming, and gave it away to someone who still uses it unlocked. I ran it with a big, but cheap heatsink with 2 80 mm fans. I am still running the regular Athlon as an X3 , underclocked and undervolted for my home server. I did buy a Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition hoping to be able to unlock it, but no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to unlock even 1 additional core. Luck of the draw.

  • @IMDYT420
    @IMDYT420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have inspired me to take apart a faulty windows xp computer and fix it 🙂

  • @deltactarchives1328
    @deltactarchives1328 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Cool n' quiet... I've never heard of a noisy cpu...

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      My CPU came with sunglasses

    • @deltactarchives1328
      @deltactarchives1328 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CaveyMoth how did that happen

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deltactarchives1328 It was......cool. [Puts on sunglasses, as a guy screams loudly along with a rock music crescendo]

    • @laharl2k
      @laharl2k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should listen to a prescott pentium 4 on a hot summer day then xD

    • @kingofthepod5169
      @kingofthepod5169 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried editing a HD video on a dell 2100 with half a gig of ram and an atom 270. Sounded like a tornado.

  • @jayfawn8478
    @jayfawn8478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the background music

  • @green90s
    @green90s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, can you possibly do a video on the i7 2600? I have one myself and given it was quite popular in prebuilts (Acer Predator G3600) it would be relevant for a lot of people.
    Keep up the awesome work!

  • @bertnijhof5413
    @bertnijhof5413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Early 2014 I bought a HP dc5850 (from Oct 2008) with a Phenom X3 8600B (2.3GHz). I used the system till April 2019. However I replaced the CPU with a Phenom II X4 B97 (3.2GHz), which was possible with an AM2+ motherboard. It doubled my CPU performance. I maxed out memory to 8GB DDR2 (800Mhz), SSD 128GB, SATA-3 Controller and USB 3.0 Controller and front-panel.
    I replaced the system by one with a new Ryzen 3 2200G with 16GB (3000MHz), which again doubled my CPU performance. In both systems I had the same setup; Ubuntu minimal install with ZFS and Virtualbox using VMs for my work/hobbies. I did run Xubuntu 18.04, Ubuntu 16.04, Windows XP and Windows 10 in a VM.

  • @ShawFujikawa
    @ShawFujikawa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice staging on that KSP rocket there. ;)

  • @S3Bayaya
    @S3Bayaya 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone somewhere is still selling this proc, inside a "budget gaming pc".

    • @ethangilbertmedia
      @ethangilbertmedia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you forget how to spell processor so you decided to abbreviate?

  • @7Elwaybronco
    @7Elwaybronco 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aye love the Pokémon music in the background

  • @kingbowser2463
    @kingbowser2463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing some of these mid to late 2000's cpus makes me really wish I had one back in the day- I had an old PC with a Pentium 4 3ghz single core cpu that I ran until 2015. After that I "upgraded" to a pc with a Intel Celeron J1900 Quad-Core... but honestly that cpu was ass, it was a very weak quad-core. I think there were actually some applications where my Pentium 4 system outperformed it, believe it or not. In mid-2016 I got a laptop with an A6-3400m AMD APU- that outperformed my j1900 desktop in both general computer use and games. In 2017 I got a new desktop with an A8-6410 apu (i did like these AMD APUs, they had relatively weak processing power but the iGpu was strong enough for me to run a decent amount of games). Then in mid-2018 I build my first proper gaming pc- It had an i5-3470 and an AMD RX 480 gpu. Holy shit, i was in a whole new world now. Now, I'm running a Ryzen 7 2700, and still have my 480 for a gpu.
    I said all this because, even tho i have a pretty good pc now, during all the time I spent on shitty PC's, I could've gotten a Phenom II or even Core 2 Duo, along with just a cheap, entry Level GPU- and had something much better. I just didn't know jack shit about computers back then- Kinda wish i didnt wait until last year to finally learn and get into pc building. lol

  • @Seethenhagen
    @Seethenhagen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah Tri Core, I bought a Phenom II X2, and thanks to AMD using software instead of solder to disable CPU cores, I was able to unlock it to an x3. That system took me from 2010 to 2014 with a Radeon HD 4650, and while I'm glad that I've got a much more potent system these days, there was always something fun about having a weird number of CPU cores.

  • @vacytric
    @vacytric 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember having a TRI core Paired with a GTX 570 HD and a gigabyte board. I luckily had one of the good TRI-cores and it unlocked with no issues to it's truest form of Phenom. The machine was beautiful back in 2011. Some people however, had the bad batch of CPUs and couldn't unlock. Great price with a chance.

  • @JJDeafGeek
    @JJDeafGeek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Still using a AMD phenom II x3 705e as a HTPC

  • @syedyusuf9594
    @syedyusuf9594 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like that Pokemon music in the background

  • @JT-ko2ib
    @JT-ko2ib 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Phenom II X3 chips will do slightly better. A few more FPS, better overclocking, a better overall experience, if only a little bit. Upgrade that old rig to a four core...now we're talking! Another 2-3 FPS boost. For the win :D

  • @EStarstruck
    @EStarstruck 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    littleroot town!!! yes! i was so excited to hear that

  • @eddiehimself
    @eddiehimself 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "A surprising revelation." What you did there. I see it.

  • @DaVinylSmith
    @DaVinylSmith 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That background music brings back such good memories

  • @tyler6602
    @tyler6602 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bruh i hope you do more videos like this they're so interesting

  • @DaiAtlus79
    @DaiAtlus79 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    just to add - i had an athlon Ii x3 460. that thing could fly! I had an older eMachines board that could overclock (nvidia system tools + nvidia chipset on a mobob = unlocking multipliers and increasing clocks). i was even playing wolfenstein II with this and 8gb of ram and a 660ti. it would have issues with some games (too old to play far Cry 5 due to lack of SSE4.2 and some more cpu intensive things like draw distance were issues). i got rid of it last year in a $50 towerbuild i threw together. Its still fine for desktop and productivity, and i was at the last bit of it, using it as a workstation til i realized my old Lenovo G585 was doing the job in Linux for what i was throwing at it as a 'workstation'. but it served me well, and in its main part of its life, i used it with a 2gb XFX 6870 radeon and 8gb of ram.

  • @michaelp.3080
    @michaelp.3080 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you make a review on the AMD A8-3870k? The first powerful APU???

  • @bertnijhof5413
    @bertnijhof5413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Early 2014 I bought a second hand HP dc5850 from Oct 2008 with that Phenom X3 8600B (3 x 2.3 GHz) on an AM2+ motherboard. After one or two years I replaced it with a Phenom II X4 B97 (4 x 3.2 GHz), that I used happily till April 2019.
    I now run a Ryzen 3 2200G and I intend to use it also for 11 years with one CPU upgrade :) :)

  • @bobdole57
    @bobdole57 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I very much enjoy these trips down memory lane.

  • @mal2ksc
    @mal2ksc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have a Thuban II x6 (1090T) that I bought eight years ago. Drives have been upgraded, RAM has been added (although the original 4 GB is still in the system), and video cards have changed repeatedly since I seem to have bad luck with cooling fans on the cheapest cards (the most recent GPU, a 750Ti, has been fine though). I'm lucky enough to be able to put the computer in another room and run the cables through the wall, as it's rather loud and warm, but as far as speed goes it's still adequate and can hold its boost clock (3.6) on all six cores, which it has been doing for nine years now. When it was new it was stable at 3.9, then after about 6 months I had to back it off to 3.8, and after about two years, it started getting crashy at anything over 3.6. That worried me, but nothing has happened on that front in seven years.
    The speed is still tolerable most of the time. It has _ten times_ the performance of the laptop I'm on right now (a Haswell Celeron from 2012), and of course it has a real, half-decent GPU. I had an AMD APU-powered laptop, and I got the Haswell machine because it is much smaller, much lighter, and pretty much a sidegrade on everything but the GPU (which was actually not bad on the old AMD APUs, better than Intel's integrated graphics).
    Anyhow, I can't see a reason to get a 3-core chip when 4-core chips are almost as cheap now. The 6-cores never did get cheap, unfortunately -- I mean they were always competitive, but they're still upwards of $100.

  • @3800S1
    @3800S1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My half brother is still using his Phenom II X3 720 over clocked by 400Mhz for day to day use. It really struggled in 2019 due to only having 2GB of ram, managed to get some high capacity sticks but because it's only got 2 slots I could only upgrade it to 4GB, which now in 2022 is starting to struggle again as browsers use a ton of ram now.

  • @datboi1081
    @datboi1081 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good choice of backround music

  • @MrKillswitch88
    @MrKillswitch88 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had two generations of this cpu and the later was unlockable to a quad core via a bios option, I liked them much better than the sluggish dual cores and it came in handy when multiboxing wow.

  • @nbrown5907
    @nbrown5907 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had the Q6600 which was two core 2 duos slapped together lol. I loved it.

  • @RoadRunner592
    @RoadRunner592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If memory serves correctly, I had an Intel Core 2 Quad one of the 45nm variants, I think it was the 9400. I remember one time I opened up device manager in XP and it only displayed 3 processors. Not sure if it was a glitch, or faulty CPU. I know I had all cores enabled in BIOS. This was nearly twelve years ago.

  • @pauls4522
    @pauls4522 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In September 2008 I bought a motherboard CPU combo consisting of am2+ mobo and 2.3ghz phenom 9600 quad core (yes quad not triple) for only 130$. Paired with a radeon 4850 I only got for 130$ as well after an unbelievable deal after sales and rebate, and after that rest if the components I only paid 450$ in total, and that includes paying too much for a psu at the time (100$ for 550w bfg psu) . That pc ran games very well until the end of 2012. I sacrificed a little bit if dps when I switched to 1080p from 1280x1024 in 2010, but still an overall good experience for a good number of years

  • @gazsoimi
    @gazsoimi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I recall well, these were faulted phenom x4 cpus, with one core disabled, because of manufacturing errors, low or completely bad core.
    It was simoply a cost saving meassure for amd, selling them instead of destroying it.
    There were some hacks, to unlock the 4th core, and if you had a good bin, the core was only weaker, and not bad.

  • @MrMonkeyCrumpets
    @MrMonkeyCrumpets 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got lucky with my x3 720 and was unable to unlock the disabled core, though as you mention most games of the day didn’t really use it so it spent much of its early life disabled in the pursuit of higher overclocks.
    Still got it chugging along as a quad core in my nas where it’s juuuuust enough to run a couple plex streams.

  • @dodgerecords3792
    @dodgerecords3792 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had the Athlon 2 X3 , you could unlock it to an Phenom II x4 , was very fun :D

  • @MrBillylois1
    @MrBillylois1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the Pokemon music so nostalgic

  • @nakyer
    @nakyer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The machine I'm using to watch this video is running an AMD FX6300, three cores, six threads. I'm not much of a gamer but the machine does what it needs to do and does it nicely. My second build, my first using an AMD processor, and I've always been happy with it.

    • @bluescluessuperagent
      @bluescluessuperagent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your fx 6300 has 6 cores. Windows and some programs just reads it as 3 cores 6 threads due to some sketchy designs that AMD used for FX cpus.
      Long store short 2 cores shared some key resource. I don't remember what. Caused controvery.
      But it is a 6 core.

  • @DoobyDubNCG
    @DoobyDubNCG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i just love that you can throw AMD processors around on rocks and they still work afterwards!

    • @stevesmith1383
      @stevesmith1383 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      really? I drop my cpus on a mattress sometimes and get bent pins

  • @Face2FaceHardware
    @Face2FaceHardware 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed the video 👍 I have a soft spot for the Phenom II X3 740 Black Edition.

  • @LeMMingSlayeR
    @LeMMingSlayeR 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have my old Phenom II x3 720 in a box in the garage, was a great CPU for it’s time. After that I had both a q6600 and Phenom II x4 970. Good times.

  • @Kanivalos80
    @Kanivalos80 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My old parents still use a phenom X3 710 with 6GB ram and onboard HD4200 for basic htpc duties.Also have E8400 with 3GB ram/6450 and FX4300 4GB ram/7770. This week i restored a system with athlon x2 6000+ from a trashcan and gifted to friend for retro gaming pc :)

  • @IndellableHatesHandles
    @IndellableHatesHandles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    GTA 4 was an example of a quad-core game back in 2008. It scales well on them.

  • @Sporkyyyyyy
    @Sporkyyyyyy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for playing the Littleroot Town theme it brings back a lot of nice memories. I seriously appreciate that even though thats not the main part of the video.

  • @mistie710
    @mistie710 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My one and only 3-core Phenom is due to be retired soon. Originally bought as the power behind a cheap home system, it has performed really well in every task I have asked of it. As such, the findings here don't really surprise me much.

  • @ambigousBarrel
    @ambigousBarrel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently picked up a Pentium G 2130 and it's surprisingly good for what it cost at only £6.00p from CEX :) Brought it for early to mid 2000's games but plays games like fallout 3 flawlessly :)