The Last Intel Atom...

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  • Hello and Welcome to another Budget Builds Episode where today we'll be taking a look at the last of the Atoms... Now I know we've seen the last of the old ones:
    The last of the old atoms: • The Last of the Old At...
    However it is with a heavy heart we take a look at the final series of x86 Atom Chips, with Intels Cherrytrail. So join me as we take a look at the most common variant, and find out just where things went so wrong...And also where things went to right. With tests from streaming through to GTA 5 its time to find out exactly whats going on with the Atoms.
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    Specs:
    CPU: Intel Atom X5-Z8350
    RAM: 2GB DDR3L RAM (Single Channel)
    GPU: Intel HD400 (Cherry Trail)

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  • @RWL2012
    @RWL2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +409

    "It's not fast, it works but it's slow" - Budget-Builds Official, 2019

    • @RuviaPawz
      @RuviaPawz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah the Nextbook Ares 8 prossesor is a Intel atom

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RuviaPawz ...?

  • @elijah4168
    @elijah4168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1254

    What do you call an Atom thermal throttling?
    Nuclear fission.

    • @cannedbeverage7687
      @cannedbeverage7687 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @Li Feng Gotta be careful when blowing up that TNT in Minecraft.

    • @theoldone22
      @theoldone22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      A funny joke but my Atom "server" doesn't thermal throttling, thermal shutdown only

    • @elijah4168
      @elijah4168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@theoldone22 that's the joke

    • @av28379
      @av28379 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👏👏

    • @xponen
      @xponen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Li Feng It will thermal throttle in the end, it is insulated by metal chasis, no ventilation, no heatsink. The whole device will warm up in warm climate. There's no heat exhaust.

  • @caek2
    @caek2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    The fact that you installed windows sideways amazes me.

  • @CZPC
    @CZPC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +445

    The last quark of an atom inside an Intel atom.

    • @LBSiUK
      @LBSiUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @CZ PC I'm not joking, Intel actually made a processor called the Intel Quark. It is meant to be a very low power CPU.

    • @NCHLT
      @NCHLT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LBSiUK Your on a non lift video?

    • @LBSiUK
      @LBSiUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NCHLT yes

    • @NCHLT
      @NCHLT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LBSiUK I used to use some 2007 flagship PC , Now I use 2016 flagship PC

  • @shinkuhs
    @shinkuhs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +317

    I would actually like to see how the "best" Atom would hold up, maybe you could go all out and give it an SSD and the maximum amount of RAM it can take.

    • @raafaa14
      @raafaa14 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Ram is soldered on these Atom based machines, and ssd... There are not much options where you can upgrade it

    • @Bagoesbudianto
      @Bagoesbudianto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      4gb
      From ark.intel.com

    • @mrdiamond64
      @mrdiamond64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Best gaming PC
      -the last Atom made
      -SSD
      - 64 GB ram
      - RTX 2060

    • @razorsz195
      @razorsz195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      who would waste their time on an atom xdd

    • @oblivionlord1242
      @oblivionlord1242 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So you want to see the z8750 with 8gb ram?

  • @FilipTech
    @FilipTech 5 ปีที่แล้ว +689

    Wait a minute you didn't test crysis
    That's illegal

    • @exaltedb
      @exaltedb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      dobarlikfilip it probably wouldn’t run well (if at all) due to the ram

    • @FilipTech
      @FilipTech 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@exaltedb yeah 😅

    • @ayuchanayuko
      @ayuchanayuko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      There are Atoms paired with a geforce dedicated gpu

    • @etlttc353
      @etlttc353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ayuchanayuko bottlenecks:
      *_are you challenging me ?!_*

    • @user-tm3fz7qx3s
      @user-tm3fz7qx3s 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      100th like!

  • @trashcandatnoobwut2246
    @trashcandatnoobwut2246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    Atom will live on as rebranded, low-end Core M.

    • @ayuchanayuko
      @ayuchanayuko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      No core m is not Atom. Celeron and Pentium silvers are.

    • @indiawest2025
      @indiawest2025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ayuchanayuko Only celerons are

    • @bf2142Fallensoul
      @bf2142Fallensoul 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well technically the last was Knights landing the Xeon Phi GPGP that used a couple cluster of cores based on atom.

    • @ayuchanayuko
      @ayuchanayuko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@indiawest2025 that was the case early on in the ivy Bridge/haswell days, where Pentium dual-cores are basically stripped down core processors (just like in the core 2 duo Conroe era). Pentiums then became atom-based with the N0000 models; then came Pentium Gold which is basically the old Pentium dual cores (and Pentium B-series) and the Atom-based Pentium N-series became Pentium Silver.

    • @eduardoavila646
      @eduardoavila646 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And core Y, and the newer celerons

  • @CapsaicinChips
    @CapsaicinChips 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    And at last, we have last Atom to ever be in the market. It's been a great journey, Intel Atom... A great journey indeed.

  • @Browningate
    @Browningate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Having owned a Surface 3, (not pro) I can confirm that storage and memory were the real bottlenecks. Still, being able to decode x265 video (at 1080p, no less) on a device with such a good screen and long battery life, all in a package that weighed around 1 pound, was impressive for what it was.

  • @belag9607
    @belag9607 5 ปีที่แล้ว +359

    Praise the lords, after hours of waiting; It's here.

  • @TeamCGS2005
    @TeamCGS2005 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What brought my attention to the Cherry Trail chips was the GPD Win, and it's because of that that I knew it was a decent chip. Thanks for the video!

  • @LightTheUnicorn
    @LightTheUnicorn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wholly agree! The newer Atoms actually have a fair amount to give, especially so given the crazy low price-range they sat in. It's just a shame so many of the devices equipped with 'em often had infuriating flaws, and are basically disposable machines.
    Of these kind of things I've used/owned, the Thinkpad 10 was probably my favorite.

  • @camerons.8322
    @camerons.8322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I think Chromebooks could've saved the Atom line.

    • @silvy7394
      @silvy7394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Chromebooks where well out before they killed Atoms. Chromebooks just went for Celerons and ARM instead.

    • @quisqueyanguy120
      @quisqueyanguy120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ARM is cheaper for Chromebooks

    • @qlum
      @qlum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@silvy7394 Don't forget bulldozer, that too still lives in chromebooks.

    • @oblivion2755
      @oblivion2755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Most ARMs are more powerful than these Atoms and Celerons. The premium-tier Snapdragon 855+ could be way more powerful than an i3.

    • @Gajaczek93
      @Gajaczek93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Are chromebooks even a thing? Like smartphone is basically a chromebook without a keyboard. If I have keyboard/touchpad I see no reason to use android anymore.

  • @LongHairedSanta
    @LongHairedSanta 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Gotta love the "The Sims" music!

  • @saintuk70
    @saintuk70 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    2watts, I think it need some mega water cooled solution - or just loads of tea.

  • @hardrivethrutown
    @hardrivethrutown 5 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    I remember that there were some atoms that seriously kicked ass, I mean for a low powered laptop or tablet they were actually not that bad

    • @HauntedCorpseGaming
      @HauntedCorpseGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I remember getting an Intel Atom N2600 HP 110 a long time ago and it was quite a beast, I've got an Z8350 with 4gb ram and it works quite well too especially using the Steam Streaming option from a main PC. :D

    • @onometre
      @onometre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My Chinese tablet can run Skyrim. How could I complain about that?

    • @EscanthonX
      @EscanthonX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had a little hybrid machine with an atom z3790 and it was pretty fast. 2gb ram, sure, but it ran at 2.4ghz and could play fallout 3 and similar titles pretty well

    • @TheXev
      @TheXev 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had the same HP 110 as Aaron. I managed to make that netbook do some crazy stuff, like play StarCraft II (only very ugly). The main reason that older atoms like the N2600 were terrible for watching videos, was a lack of hardware H264 decoding. I had a highly optimized software for H264 decoding, that managed to make my HP 110 play 720p videos while maxing out the CPU. I was able to upgrade the HP 110 to 2GBs of RAM, which was a MASSIVE boon to its performance.
      My new Chuwei tablet with the Z8350 has hardware H264 decoding, so youtube and others run fine. I just wish it had 4GBs of ram, but the 2GBs of ram is fine for something I only really use as a manga reader and sometimes video watching tablet.

    • @EscanthonX
      @EscanthonX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheXev If you have a PS4 or gaming PC, these things are extremely great for PS Remote play and moonlight gamestreaming

  • @cesartapia610
    @cesartapia610 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If they had used dual channel ram and NVME storage, then this could have been a much more appealing and usable product for a lot of people.

    • @madmax2069
      @madmax2069 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      NVME alone would have cost more than the laptop itself.

    • @erwinm.mutaqqin4559
      @erwinm.mutaqqin4559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least ssd at sata3

  • @SotnekronOfficial
    @SotnekronOfficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    9:22 THAT'S IT, here is the proff that you can run Skyrim even on a toaster, yet alone on this one!

    • @harrylane4
      @harrylane4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh, you're finally awake

  • @iYonga
    @iYonga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Using Sims BGM? I love you!!1

  • @DrekiTech
    @DrekiTech 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Watching on a TV stick running the X5-Z8350. It's definitely hindered by the eMMC. Not much for games. But steam in home streaming is fine! It's been a great little computer for streaming video and it is significantly power saving compared to my desktop. I love that it runs off of a 5V3A usb power supply.
    I notice the driver issue too, mine has the issue that it won't detect HDMI audio out. A Windows Update made HDMI disappear as an audio source and it hasn't came back even with driver reinstall 😂

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are fixea for that :P

  • @Obie327
    @Obie327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm still running the first desktop atom from Zotac and 4 gigs of ddr2 ram. It's the single core version with hyper threading. What made it last so long was the Nvidia graphics portion. It's really surprising how well the Intel Atoms can run. Thanks for the video.

  • @arifproject
    @arifproject 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Ah intel atom... Bane of my teenage years way back then 😂

    • @fhddhdhk9319
      @fhddhdhk9319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Celerons still are the bane of my life.

    • @nexenojustice552
      @nexenojustice552 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fhddhdhk9319 1.1GHz I lived with

    • @NPCDCBA
      @NPCDCBA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fhddhdhk9319 which one? Might be upgradable

    • @fhddhdhk9319
      @fhddhdhk9319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NPCDCBA its a laptop cpu so no upgradability.

    • @vanajalekkala5098
      @vanajalekkala5098 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I consider myself lucky because I had a pentium

  • @royalkingdom2801
    @royalkingdom2801 5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Try the x7, the Best Atom ever made

    • @DarkLinkAD
      @DarkLinkAD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How does it compare to an under-clocked/undervolted CPU of the same generation though?

    • @lolcat
      @lolcat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DarkLinkAD I have no idea but I'm pretty sure I saw videos of it running GameCube games fairly decent. like on the level of a very old i3

    • @EscanthonX
      @EscanthonX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkLinkAD Pretty poorly, most likely due to the neutered cache. I tested one of these against a 7th gen i5 at 1.2 GHz and the i5 outperformed it in raw CPU Power by around 60%

    • @madmax2069
      @madmax2069 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heck an Athlon 5350 smokes the x7

    • @Tonyx.yt.
      @Tonyx.yt. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Z520 the slowest ever made... back in the 2009 i get a netbook with atom z520 because i was a noob, half performance than p4 630 from 2004, that cpu was annoying slow so even the 5400 rpm hdd was not a bottleneck...

  • @thedutchgulcher4750
    @thedutchgulcher4750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You should really try the higher end surface 3! I would imagine the higher x7, 4 gigs and most importantly, the 128 gb ssd would make it much better for general things.

  • @joannaatkins822
    @joannaatkins822 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The mere mention of a £200 AM4 Ryzen system has set off my ADHD* making me want to go and budget one out to tinker with and set up for my kids...
    I'll stay and watch! I promise!
    *I do literally legitimately have ADHD

    • @robidemon6674
      @robidemon6674 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeet

    • @joannaatkins822
      @joannaatkins822 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I made it! Great video, it's well shot, narrated, and edited!
      I'm really impressed by the performance considering the teeny tiny wattage of this Atom, I feel that my experiences as a layman using Atoms may well have been informed by my ignorance about what may have actually been a bottleneck in those systems.

  • @Turnbull50
    @Turnbull50 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Quite surprised at the Atoms power, great video

  • @lolnjeoglondajmejejplejlis3365
    @lolnjeoglondajmejejplejlis3365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    budgetbuilds: *you cant upgrade the storage*
    me: *connects usb ssd*

  • @k42uy4
    @k42uy4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    "It's not fast, but it's slow"
    oh well, that's cool

  • @EdgyNumber1
    @EdgyNumber1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to run CATIA V5(R20) on an Atom (N170?) based netbook (with built in hard disk) and it worked quite well. Individual parts were fine and zooming/rotation had no problems. The problems came when there were large assemblies being moved around. I designed a playground with many, many parts and had to render a fly-through to mpg format instead of manipulating it live because it could barely do only 3-5 frames a second! Mind you, when I designed and animated a small 4-stroke engine on kinematics, it was flawless.
    It got me through uni though and it never shut down on me.

  • @Mico605
    @Mico605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There are some chinese laptops that have these Cherrytrail CPUs and have slots for M.2 SSD's

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is still a great CPU.. Being budget oriented it did unfortunately often be limited by other hardware too. :/

  • @derlinuxkonig1484
    @derlinuxkonig1484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One note about Minecraft:
    If you're installing it on windows 10, I recommend downloading the bedrock or 'Windows 10' edition from the Microsoft store instead of running java.
    Because it's meant to run on multiple different device categories ranging from phones to consoles, the code is written in C/C++ and is super optimised. So even if you're cpu limited, it should run an absolute treat on these older devices!
    Just thought that'd be a good heads up! Great videos as always!

  • @TKMachine007
    @TKMachine007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Damn my old phone used to have an Intel Atom

  • @edittext
    @edittext 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A nice cheap option for anyone interested in playing with an Atom X5-Z8350 is the AtomicPi. I use mine as a silent passively cooled desktop, though I have moved to a pi4 for that role more recently. It's still nice to have a windows machine on the desk too, and this video makes want to play with it more.

  • @shokobata
    @shokobata 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In the start of the video I was like "OOh my laptop!!"

    • @rajideva6745
      @rajideva6745 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @baboonation5794
      @baboonation5794 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahh the lenovo miix 320. It really is a piece of shit

    • @shahbazahmad-ud6kj
      @shahbazahmad-ud6kj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@baboonation5794 I have the lenovo ideapad d330 with LTE, it's a lot better than that shitbox, and cost 200$. I use it for school work.

  • @RobertLeather
    @RobertLeather 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oddly, I had a 14" HP X360 with one of the higher end Atoms with 4GB of RAM and M.2 SSD onboard and it was a very different experience. It worked well enough for development use.

  • @LloydLynx
    @LloydLynx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just wait, someone's gonna figure out how to solder in more RAM and an SSD.

    • @TheXev
      @TheXev 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd kill to have an SSD in my Z8350 tablet. I'm glad I only use it for reading manga and sometimes watching videos, otherwise I'd be angry that I spent money on it at all.

    • @Revon79
      @Revon79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How about readyboost for ram. Will boot from ssd be any faster I wonder

  • @trekkie1701c
    @trekkie1701c 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last netbook based atom, though I have a modern Atom powering a VM server; an Atom C3758 on a Supermicro A2SDi-8C+HLN4F mini-itx board. 8 cores paired with 64gigs of DDR4 RDIMMs and a wonderful low power draw of around 50-60W under full load for the entire system (fans, hard drives, etc). Works great!

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      These also make for great servers. They are still a great alternative for things like raspberry pis. Can be had for half the price, but they are at least twice as powerful.

  • @AndreiNeacsu
    @AndreiNeacsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had several Atoms, including the N270, N450, D425 (with 4GB of dual-chan RAM). The D425 was actually pretty good in a small form-factor desktop used as a NAS.

  • @MrInsertfunnyname
    @MrInsertfunnyname 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the sims background over this

  • @TheCatpirate
    @TheCatpirate 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ARM was really the nail in the coffin for these Atoms. They may not have x86 support, but any programs/games that could take advantage of that won't really run on it anyways.

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That mostly. Other than those AAA Titles like Skyrim which are oddly playable.

    • @219SilverChoc
      @219SilverChoc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BudgetBuildsOfficial All I need to say is, Low Spec Gamer.

    • @TeamCGS2005
      @TeamCGS2005 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think AMD were partly to blame as well Catpirate, or do you think the x86 era is coming to an end?

    • @TheCatpirate
      @TheCatpirate 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TeamCGS2005 I just think for low end, x86 can't compete in terms of power consumption and efficiency.

  • @Blitterbug
    @Blitterbug 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've loads of those latter-era Atoms in a variety of form factors. I'm quite enamoured of them! Yes, they all have the 2GB/32GB RAM/eMMC limit, but I like 'em. Game-wise, they run Civ IV, Serious Sam, Doom 3, basically pre-2006 games just fine but I like them as portable field-repair devices. They're tiny! I even have a small cylinder PC about 15CM tall, same specs, HDMI output - great fun.

  • @6ppgs4
    @6ppgs4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why is no one noticing the sims 4 build mode music???

  • @Aries2376
    @Aries2376 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought one of these with a cracked touchscreen for about 34$. Replaced the touchscreen for 19$ and I got myself a fully working tablet laptop. The Emmc was also my concern though. It is very slow and very little storage (32GB). The built in micro sd card reader is also trash. It disconnects from time to time. I had to frankenstein a micro sd card reader to its micro usb otg port and glued the reader to the back. The forums said that this problem is caused by the drivers of the chip itself (Card reader drivers are from 2006). Anyways, aside from that, I am really impressed with the battery on these things. It lasts about 5 hours at medium usage. The screen is also IPS which is great for movies. The Atom decently decodes 1080P 60fps h264 videos with very minimal stuttering probably due to it being passively cooled. Overall, its not really bad for the price.

  • @petermc7098
    @petermc7098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello There, a great video and with the C and P Series of Intel Atom, it's still being manufactured. Cheers Peter :)

  • @oliverhilton6086
    @oliverhilton6086 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first GPD Win portable PC game console thingy used these cherry trail chips, there's a large community that like to mod and alter games to get them running on those so I'd imagine that if you were to apply the same fixes to whichever games then you could get them running on this

  • @nahpets2345
    @nahpets2345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Tablets are better than any Intel Atom chip.
    My 2ghz quad core Xiaomi Redmi 6A: Am I joke to you?

    • @ggguys6113
      @ggguys6113 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      But...can it run crysis?

    • @nahpets2345
      @nahpets2345 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ggguys6113 if course it can't

    • @nahpets2345
      @nahpets2345 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TomSkarabis-oz1ep oh i see

  • @fat_pigeon
    @fat_pigeon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    > A shame there won't be any more Intel Atoms
    A couple of months after the video is posted, Intel launches a bunch of new Atoms (including a 24-core monster)!

  • @MrKillswitch88
    @MrKillswitch88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The rather interesting ones had an Nvidia ION chipset rather than being completely crippled back in the day.

    • @mxn1948
      @mxn1948 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had one. A Lenovo s12. Could actually play back 1080p movies. Which is all I used it for since it was terrible at everything else

  • @maio290
    @maio290 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first notebook was actually a netbook - the good old Asus EEE 901. This thing ran quite OK with a customized Windows XP Home ISO (nLite) but the 12 GB SSD (Phison) was just utter crap which suffered from data loss and overall had a very very bad performance. You could even play some WoW and Warcraft III (and obviously older games) on it. The form factor and keyboard was great, also I kind of liked the screen back then. While the Atom based CPUs might be weak from today's point of view, they were a decent product for their use-case back then. And for streaming some videos back in 2009/2010, they were actually quite a decent product. Netbooks were made for browsing the web and playing some video and doing light productivity stuff - and for that, they were sufficient.

  • @kodaloid
    @kodaloid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've managed to upgrade my n2800 based netbook to have 2gb dual channel and a real ssd, the performance is so much better :)

  • @bongoman9578
    @bongoman9578 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1 view 3 likes im early

  • @medotaku9360
    @medotaku9360 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember a lot of these little things being popular for using to run BackTrack (Kali) linux builds. It was so as hell for most applications and only had a few usecases but you couldn't beat the price.
    It pretty much became a disposable system.

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Presumably that market has been gobbled up by the Raspberry π.

  • @jokerzwild00
    @jokerzwild00 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Lenovo Flex with a Celeron n4000 in it, got 2 of them for 56 bucks each because of a pricing error over the holidays. I've been using it for light stuff for the past month and I gotta say that for how low powered it is, it's really not that bad. The Flex I have has 4gb of ram so there's more give in that department, and it has a free m.2 slot (undocumented, but it's hidden underneath a ribbon cable) that I threw a 20 dollar el cheapo 256gb ssd into, which took the slower emmc out of the equation (actually the emmc in this isn't bad at all, it's faster than a regular ssd running over sata 2). It can run a lot of modern stuff at lower settings, almost anything indie and everything 2d. It streams from an XBox wonderfully too. I don't think I'd have paid full price for it, since there are Ryzen 3200u based laptops in the same price range, but for a passively cooled convertible this is not too bad at all. And the tablet mode has come in handy at times.

  • @Ametisti
    @Ametisti 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That EMMC storage thing's been a big reason I haven't upgraded my netbook, which has I think an N2600 in it. It also has a 320GB HDD which I use partially for file backing up, and there's no way in hell 32GB of soldered on garbage can do that. From some poking around the simple need for something with a decent amount of storage jumps the cost of a smaller, lightweight laptop from ~£100-200 well into the £500-600 range

  • @thebeyonder8814
    @thebeyonder8814 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your videos that include some old CPUs..... Idk why? Maybe cause I like how you absolutely shred them calling them a patato??😂

  • @Stuff1646
    @Stuff1646 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was able to play Tekkit Classic (Modifyed Minecraft) at 35-50fps on this little processor. Intel HD 4000 graphics kick ass portability wise. The big issue with gaming is the fact that Intel Atoms have bad power management and either discharge while plugged in, known to fry usb chargers, and even the built in IC for charge regulation shorts to backlight, causing flicker and only works properly when enough power is supplied.
    And that was £199 tablet/laptop all in one system with windows.

  • @pavelgutierrez6940
    @pavelgutierrez6940 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta love that simcity soundtrack in the background

  • @RaspberryCai
    @RaspberryCai 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I despise atoms as a rule of thumb. Back in high school we used those ASUS EEE PC's which used some form of atom, and they actually didn't have enough power to boot properly.

  • @mariastevens6406
    @mariastevens6406 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find the Atoms were absolutely amazing if you didn't expect it to do more than web access and some office apps, which is essentially what it was made for. The low power draw and efficiency was insane for its intended purpose. I'd love to have one of those quad core laptops with 7 starter.

  • @sburton015
    @sburton015 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using an Atom based laptop, Dell Venue 10 pro 1055. I still like it because its very portable and it runs a full fledged Windows 10 operating system. It seems like mine was released in early 2015. I ran userbenchmark on it and it said for the CPU, "With an extremely low single core score, this CPU can barely handle email and light web browsing". I don't know if I'd go that far, but in Windows 10 pro 32 bit, it seems to handle web browsing and 720p TH-cam playback in the latest version of Chrome just fine. Also, most 3d games from 2006 or earlier will also run well on it. I remember something like the game of STALKER shadow of Chernobyl from 2007 seems to run fine on it.

  • @Fainthen
    @Fainthen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently bought a obviously used and old lenovo m83 sff pc, with a 4th gen i3, single stick 4gb ram and 500gb 3.5 7.2k hdd, changed out the hdd to two ssd 240 & 500gb, and added 3 more 4gb sticks and it became really smooth sailing when doing simple tasks and running really old games, planning to get a low profile gpu ranging from either a gtx 750ti to a gtxc 1650 to pair up with it, when I eventually change my main pc platform from my i7 4790k paired with gtx 1080, and just put the i7 in there, and yes I'm aware that the pc wont be able to oc, and it doesn't matter at that point when I'm just going to use that pc for steaming to or for low power afk grind in mmorpgs that I remote into.

  • @suprshin
    @suprshin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m still a sucker for netbooks :(
    Sucks that they just don’t exist anymore. I loved played old pc games on them

  • @dhuwdhuwdhuw
    @dhuwdhuwdhuw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hmm isn't the surface 3 runs on intel atom back then? A friend of mine had one, I think it was pretty good.

  • @TheLaXandro
    @TheLaXandro 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had an Asus Vivotab as a daily driver notepad kind of thing for several years now. A small 8-inch tab on Atom, with full Windows and a pen is a surprisingly producive machine.
    Also handled NFS Most Wanted well enough to entertain me on a long flight.

  • @MiiaFoxx
    @MiiaFoxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Dell Venue 10 5056 with an Atom 8500 in it and 4GB of RAM. For a lot of what I do, it's my daily workhorse as it's small enough to fit in tight server closets and I can just plug a console cable in and get to work.

  • @Luke357
    @Luke357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should test the surface 3 it has the highest end atom and it performs pretty good even on 2 gigs of ram.

  • @ristopoho824
    @ristopoho824 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a thingy almost exactly the same as the one in the video. It's a reference design i think, seen other brands make almost exact copies too. With minor changes in port places and types of charging. Mine is HP. It's a nice little thing. Far better than i thought HP could ever produce.
    Anyway. It's a nice e-reader. Also nice for use when troubleshooting other stuff. The usb port works fine and that's mostly the only thing that matters. Boots slow but eh whatever. Also. The difference in performance does not change too much when adjusting the power limit. The battery life does. So. I keep it at the lowest. Screen brightness matters far more though.

  • @StevenJPiper
    @StevenJPiper 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a couple of those Chinese mini PCs with a Z8350 in them, and I currently use one as a server of sorts, for simple mundane tasks on my network, and pretty much that's all they're good for, the RAM is super slow, and often runs out, which them causes it to page, and the storage is so slow too, as you noted, that the whole machine just bogs down... You can play back video seemingly fine, but they're not that versatile other than for "low intensity computing". But at least for what I use it for, they work great, all it does is sync my Google Photos, uploads to Google Play Music when I need it to, serves as a server for a USB over IP type app, (networked optical drives anyone?).

  • @1tominator
    @1tominator 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Atoms are still around and being made, but they have been rebranded to the classic Celeron and Pentium Silver (Pentium Gold processors are Core based) name. You can still get laptops today with a Pentium silver processor. This year they are supposed to come out with Lakefield processors which combine Atom based Tremont 10nm architecture (apparently already used in some 5g deployment applications) and a sunnyfield 10nm Core in a Ryzen style chiplet die. The atoms still have a bit of a following for low power home server use and you can get itx and matx boards of the newer atom flavors. Though the branding Atom truly does seem dead.

  • @ilcuriosonedelweb3831
    @ilcuriosonedelweb3831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm actually really curious to see in an another video how the x7-Z8700 performs at it's full potential without bottlenecks like emmc storage (at least a sata hdd) or 2 gigs of ram, since 4 gigs is the bare minimum today
    You know, it's the highest and final version of the Atoms that are no longer produced, so it would be a shame to not give it a try

  • @razorsz195
    @razorsz195 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i still have my XP atom laptop, i use it for photo transfer as it has an SD slot, it also has a decent sized HDD and i store some retro games on it, its got an aton N450 but i unlocked a thread which technically makes it an n455 (1C 2T) which actually doubled performance on browsing etc along with upgrading to a 2GB stick of ram that was double the speed of the 1gb stick, its still capable for browsing but definitely suited being a mobile chip, though it was definitely a fail of a product when paired with the 2007-2011 netbook craze, since the core2duo and quad era showed the succession of multiple cores a few years beforehand, however if it wasn't for the atom and the netbook age, we wouldn't have products like the surface pro which is basically a successor to the netbooks.

  • @angieandretti
    @angieandretti 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the original GPD Win with the Atom Z8700 that most first-gen Win's sold with. However the very early and tail-end Win 1's came with the Z8750 which I believe is the true top dog Atom. I'd love to see a video comparing those two chips when all other variables are equal... and yes, I'm also kind of sad (at least a tiny bit) that there won't be any more Atom CPU's.

  • @fallingwater
    @fallingwater 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are two points to keep in mind if you want to use one of these proficiently.
    1) Get a 4RAM/64Storage version. Avoid 2/32 versions at all costs - even if you use external storage, the RAM is just too low for anything.
    2) Get a laptop with USB3 ports; not all Atom ones had them. That'll give you the ability to use faster main storage than the internal eMMC with very little expense (128GB = 15 euro). Windows 10 needs some tinkering to run from USB, but Linux doesn't, and these days it supports Cherry Trail without having to curse at it and load experimental kernels and whatnot.

  • @8-bitcentral31
    @8-bitcentral31 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it funny that a budget 2016 laptop is WAY slower than my 2008 Dell Inspiron 1720. For example, it can run Minecraft 1.20.1 at ~40fps on Hypixel at 1440x900 (w/optifine) which is mighty impresssive for its age.

  • @silenttrekkie8076
    @silenttrekkie8076 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, I've said for a while that atoms made more sense than an i3 for a budget laptop for a kid. Just a question, did you test whilst plugged into power to account for any power state changes?

  • @abergethirty
    @abergethirty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Single Core Atom Nettop with Nvidia graphics was a great Kodi Box up until 2017. Stopped using it because Kodi Developers stopped offering builds for that chipset and TH-cam stopped using Flash. HTML5 is very CPU demanding.

  • @mitchyk
    @mitchyk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    got a couple of hybrids running on atoms. They're perfect for streaming from xbox or pc. work flawlessly so if you are short of a tv these are great and you can watch youtube or do your interwebs on!

  • @marksmith9566
    @marksmith9566 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was updating software on an Atom computer today and agree the 64 GB EEMC is a real roadblock. The 2 GB memory limit was not as much a factor for the internet and Libre Office I run on it.

  • @mrofinUtortxoF
    @mrofinUtortxoF 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i've had a laptop with n2940 back in 2013 and it was really good for a budget piece of tech. of course, had to udgrade ram and storage, but I can't really complain about the laptop itself. you get what you pay for.

  • @mdukasa
    @mdukasa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    use ctrl + alt + arrow keys to fix the screen orientation

  • @SWAGCOWVIDEO
    @SWAGCOWVIDEO 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even my high end mechanical hard drive struggles to keep up with Windows 10's update / defender / superfetch antics. What were they thinking when they decided to go with a soldered in SD card with the read/write speeds of a floppy disk?

  • @951258tike22
    @951258tike22 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    yezzir, we would LOVE to see what the top tier atom chip can do, your effort into getting your hands on one would be incredibly appreciated

  • @steaker-gi9uw
    @steaker-gi9uw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the future if you're testing a weak processor you should try hosting minecraft on a server, then connecting to that server on the device.
    All of the processing of loading in new areas can be offloaded onto the server which can make some pretty great performance on these weaker devices.

  • @witoldbanialuk7719
    @witoldbanialuk7719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a video about restoring Nexus 7 you mentioned at the end of the video please.

  • @nickwillard4471
    @nickwillard4471 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you still have this device I'd love to see you try and put tiny11 on it and retest things. I just came into possession of a chuwi tablet with this processor but with a better SSD and more RAM. It would be cool to see what kind of performance could be eeked out of this thing.

  • @maybe6536
    @maybe6536 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To this day im still waiting for the video about the best performing atom

  • @sniglom
    @sniglom 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One machine using the x7-Z8750 is the GPD Pocket. It also features 8GB of ram in dual channel, so it's quite a step up memory wise.

  • @NeilHodges
    @NeilHodges 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like Intel recently announced the Tremont and Lakefield Atom cores with a 10nm feature size, so it's thankfully not dead after all.

  • @AngelLeon1987
    @AngelLeon1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to own a Lenovo k900 android smartphone, it had a z8350 in it... It was among the best phones of its time. 9/10 would buy again because of that SoC

  • @billybeamng
    @billybeamng 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own a very similar Lenovo hybrid laptop but I never had issues with screen orientation with or without the keyboard attached.

    • @xponen
      @xponen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      it depend on the orientation sensor, some manufacturer install it in random orientation that require a driver or a registry key modification to correct.

  • @burnutec3
    @burnutec3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is a new line, atom c and atom p series , althrough it is aimed at servers, who knows where it might show up :) i did own an n280 in 2016 it wasnt that bad, in a lenovo s10-2 netbook :)

  • @elmariachi5133
    @elmariachi5133 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    With that kind of performance limits (fats cores but slow storage) you should enable NTFS compression. In some cases where such limits where really extreme, I have seen every feelable performance improvements by the somewhat lower writing times.

  • @CrocoDylianVT
    @CrocoDylianVT ปีที่แล้ว

    got curiosity about the most powerful Atom, which is the C2750 apparently, what surprised me wasn't the performance itself but the fact it's an 8-core, and givven the fact it performed like a 4th gen i3 talks about how horrible its single core performance is

  • @FullyBuffered
    @FullyBuffered 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice overview! I've always liked the Atom chips; considering the power draw the theoretical performance output is very impressive. However, as you said; in the vast majority of cases they're put in some very dreary systems.

  • @TheNiteNinja19
    @TheNiteNinja19 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an HP Omni 10 with an atom, however something happened with a Windows update because one day it was fine, the next it will thermal throttle at like 50°C, and not just a little, it'll go to full 100% throttle which is a stunning 570mhz. And it'll stay that way until you reboot. If it wasn't for this, that tablet is still valid today.

  • @MCMonsterbuilder
    @MCMonsterbuilder 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 2013 when I wanted to buy one of those Tablet Laptop thingies, I had to decide if I want to get an Atom or spend a lot more money. I decided against an Atom and got one with Aspire P3 with an i3 for like 700€ at the time. I still have that and it's soo slow. Only 2GB of Ram as well but a real SSD. Used that one as my main portable PC for University and stuff for about 1,5-2 years when my Gaming Laptop broke.

  • @medotaku9360
    @medotaku9360 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see Doom (2016) running on here. Just because the game seems to be so well optimized.
    I have a feeling it would actually do really well.
    As to the "puzzling" Minecraft results, the CPU ends up bottenecking the system because of how much non-visual data is being processed. If you lower the Chunk size it'll work a lot better, for a time.
    The longer you play and explore a new map in Minecraft, the more Chunks the game has to keep track of and the more work the CPU has to perform as more and more memory is being occupied.

  • @AiOinc1
    @AiOinc1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gimme that X7 babyyyy
    Also, I think XP would be great on one of these things.
    11:24 I'm willing to bet that it'd run a whole lot faster in multiplayer. Minecraft runs a local server for single player mode, and also generates the world as you walk around, so it's extremely taxing on the CPU. Try joining a multiplayer game (realms or a real server) and you can see a world of difference!

  • @SinisterPuppy
    @SinisterPuppy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my Asus T100. I don't have as much trouble with the eMMC so found the speeds you got odd; it's slow but win10 doesn't take 3hrs to install. I am bummed they won't release more atoms. I've found it's great for games 2005 and some indies. I'll be sad the day this thing dies. Being able to hit 100% cpu usage and still get 9-10hrs of battery life is a dream.