I dread to think what the floor would look like if i attempted this….these guys make it look insanely easy when to us mere mortals it’s almost impossible. Bravo sir.
I got told it’s cause you hold your board like you would if a hawk was sitting on you hand made sense at the time we all call it hawk round here west midlands 😂
The word _hawk hawker hawking_ is old English for _carry goods around_ but when I have been plastering the shadow of the hawk board can look a lot like a kestrel - so who knows?
the first time i wrote this is seemed to get lost and not post... i was told in my apprentice days nearly 40 years ago, by a plasterer named Fred (he taught me) who had three teeth and less hair that it was called a hawk as it sits on your hand like the bird would when resting
This is a work of a very skilled and well experienced man, this is not easy at all, my wrist got destroyed just doing not even half of my wall! I'm not even gonna talk about the mistakes I did mixing the stuff wrong leaving the plaster all cracked up the next day!
Mastery. Pure mastery. I love the pride you have in your work, Kirk. The little finishing touches with the small tool… wow. Speaking of, around what stage of the set would you get into the little intricate details with the small tool?
I’m in Gloucester. Never worked on the curved ceilings. I call it a hawk as well. But I’m not going to tell someone who can plaster like you you’re wrong. Top work
I live in the South of England now but I'm Irish. Yes I've seen these ceilings but I'm not sure Hawk is a cockney thing we call it a hawk in Ireland, who knows eh. Cheers for the video mate
Said it before and ill say it say it again, I’m a multi skilled joiner and can put a wall or ceiling on and get a good finish but Kirk makes it look so so much easier than it actually is. It takes years and years of doing this day in day out to get to this level of skill. And the point is you never see Kirk stress at all, no matter how big the job he never loses it. And anyone who has novice level experience as a plasterer knows how stressful it can be! Great vid mate 👍
Your totally right pal I'm 37 been plastering 20year and there's not a day goes by that I don't loose it at least once a day 😂 plastering looks easy Wen you watch a guy with year of experience but trust me it's very hard and takes years to prefect class job as usual Kirk 👏
@@Onthetrowel Kirk I hope your sticking your beads on with mitre bond it's unbelievable pal av mentioned it to you a few times I still not seen you do it 😂😂 honestly it's a game changer no movement Nd ready to skim straight away it's the only bit of advice I cud give you haha you do everything else to wot looks like profection 😀
@@grahamgodwin7200 totally agree mate but have many plasterer's do you no that Hoy a level on there beads 😂 also on board work there shouldn't be no reason why it's not all plumb pal just mitre mate there's no movement in beads unlike staples Nd clouts etc but hey each to there own
Hello mucka, Done loads of rounded ceilings mostly in central London. Get em still I'm on the east coast now.. Hawk or handboard all the same, get ya gear on the wall 🍻 Hope ya ticking over bud...I know things are slowing down for a lot of blokes..
Watch your program with my husband and no he is not a plasterer. We just admire the high standard you work to. However, can I just say as a mum of 5 and grandmum what I admire most - your dedication to your family. On a Friday night you want to get home to your family to spend time with your kids. ❤
Got to be honest southern plasterer here and probably done about 2-3 hand coved ceilings in about 20!years loads of rolled ceilings in lofts and splayed ceilings but very rarely see a hand coved. Great work as always Kirk
Got curves on my upstairs ceilings as the rafters cut through. I had to rebuild the curves as I reboarded the rooms - I used bonding and made a profile out of stainless steel to get the curve back.
Hi Kirk in the Midlands it's a mixed bag some call it hand board some call it a hawk. I myself call it a hawk and trowel as that's what I was told from my teacher. As regards to those type of ceilings you very rarely come across a double cove without a wooden hip in the middle. Their are lots of the ceilings with double coves but they usually have a hip beam coming down to separate the auquard double cove if U get me.
Called a hawk in Norfolk 👍and its great to watch someone make what can be such a frantic line of work look so calm and relaxed, everytime i end up looking like ive just outrun a cheetah 😂
When I plastered in the seventies, we also called it a hoc. That was North America, My Dad was a brickie and he called a hoc a triangular trough the labourers used to carry mort. The curved ceiling to wall we called a cove.
Hi kirk, I'm down south and I've done my fair share of those ceilings. It's mainly the cornish style houses that have those ceilings down this way. Keep up the good work fella and I'll see you in the next video 😉👍
I first learnt plastering in Galway in 1999/2000 and we always called it a hawk (hawk and trowel)… That ceiling looks great btw Kirk 🙌🏻 Or is it the bottom of the upper floor, up the apples n pears nah what I mean geezer, snooker loopy nuts are we 🤣🤣🤣
I'm near Portsmouth and yes plasterers here seem to shit themselves when they see barrel ceilings(curved) ...and the guys I used in the end done an Ok job but not great...had them back to rectify the curves but wasn't great...Watching you do a great job wishing you did mine.
Yeah I live in the “cotswoeld” I suppose and never came across ceiling like that. Granted we have curve ceilings just not ones that drop halfway down the wall with the rail. Same as we don’t have many houses that have cornice. Even though I would love to do a ceiling like this. Great video once again
lived in London for 25 years, never seen any apartment with a curved ceiling like that. But I rented a flat in Paris once and that had an amazing plastered ceiling just like that, curves everywhere
In the South done quite a few , lots of 60s 70s places used to have them, more and more got converted in the 80s to flat ceilings so don't see as many now
Hi great job matey here on the Isle of Wight have come across a few ceilings with a curve but mostly on the outside walls but mostly flats or covered like in attics or when the roof/wall are at slightly different heights and it’s called a hawk here😊👍
Weve got whats called mucklow houses with hipped roofs, you get a double barrel in the bedrooms which you have a sweeping curve in both corners they are a night mare to skim as well
Great work I enjoy watching the hand cove ceilings done a few myself over the years btw loving the pink SBR it’s the nuts will be buying it on a regular basis for sure 👍👍👍
Man i hate them curves. You make it look effortless 😮 Ive always managed to convince the customer to get rid although i do hope one day ill get the hang of them. Brilliant vid. Ill have another attempt after watching this . Awesome vid..... nice one Bro 👊🏽👳🏽♂️
I’m from the south (Reading), but when working across Berkshire, Surrey, Hampshire, Oxfordshire and London, I’ve never seen such one of those ceilings.
Just reading these comments on the shittaz,flippin hilarious 😂it seems only you call it a hand board!!! If I get piles its your fault watching these videos! Love ya geezer, respect
Quality video as always. Loved the with half circle artex..same as one I’m going attempt..with the Kirk Johnstone method..😁..up to know from what learned from watching your vids hopefully will come out as good as walls 👍🏻🤗😁
Got loads of them ceilings down in Kent. We call em the double rounds 🤣 smashing videos my man !! Call it a hawk here!! Probably because a hawk sits on your wrist arm ?
Spot on bruv👍 Question. Do you ever use a so called speed trowel for polishing? Thought you might have used one on that ceiling as it’s supposed to be quicker with two hands and a metre or more trowel.
I'm a carpenter /joiner in Australia.... we call them Hawks down here and that's way south of where you are..... don't ask me why they call them Hawks....😄😃😀🇦🇺 Your insanely good at what you do..
Would love to see you do a youtube crossover event with the Vancouver Carpenter! Get him over to try out the UK way of doing things and then you could head over there for the return fixture!
Hi Kirk Theres lots of handcove ceilings in Bristol. I think the reason its called a hawk is to do with old bird of prey hunting hawks & the way they where held. :D
I got a question, ive been watching many of ur vids lately and im impressed. I tried searching up the products you are using but they arent in my country ( the netherlands ). What we use for plaster is mostly : MP75. Have you ever used that?
only thing i can think about hawk is it sits on ur hand like a hawk does (perches on ya hand when ur training them) but thats a push for the only thing i can think of.
I'm from southend and come across this ceilings from time to time in the dated properties, what trowel are you using there? Also someone told me that them cheap footballs are a good aid for getting the shape of them corners, I use my little bat wing coving trowel!
@Onthetrowel did my time up in Scotland as a plasterer, but that was more than a few years ago, hence wondering what has changed as i I still like to keep my hand in so thanks for getting back to me. We call it a hawk up here, too. Never asked why just went with it. Ha. Your tips are amazing for someone like me who can do it but only really Diy's now and helps out family and friends. Great to see a master at work. 👍
Nice one Kirk 👍 As a multi skilled joiner I’ve done all my plastering in our house, although not to your perfect standards but good enough based on your tutorials. I’ve got a ceiling that will need doing and really fancy putting in a curve on it as looks pleasing to the eye, should I build out the corner between ceiling and wall with bonding to create the curve? 👌👌👌
Good job with round corners! Those round corners are pretty common in germany (at least around Berlin when I was plastering for few years). They call this "wut" or something like this. Once we did this in all house with clay plaster, but with much bigger radius... To profile this schape we use plastix pipe 110mm 😁
I brought one from wickes, it was called a plasterers hawk! There’s a pub by me called ‘the bird in hand’ and there’s a picture of a man with a hawk in his hand, can only think it’s referring to something like this!
I remember seeing an explanation about the hawk years ago. There was a picture of this thing that was literally shaped like a hawks head. It had two angled sides to keep the mud contained. It wasn’t flat. The shape of the tool changed but the name stuck I guess.
Plasterer down south, I think I’ve done 1 or 2 of these type of ceilings in over 20years, my current house has them but it’s an older property with high ceilings. Where I am it’s definitely a handboard, and the the little black rubber coving tool we’d use on tight curves is affectionate known as the “spanker” 😂
Firstly never seen it down south. Secondly and most important. You're hands down the best plasterer I've ever seen!!!
this man is a god at plastering. love from Australia
you make rounded ceilings look easy mate . great tecnique
Kirk l am a77 year old retired plasterer nice to see you using a board and stand
Thanks Peter and thanks for commenting sir 👍
@@Onthetrowelboard and stand🤯 you'll be on stilts next or what about one of those tall unicycles 😂😂😂
HAWK! 😂😂
Plenty of those ceilings down south mate, I hate em😅
@@Onthetrowelwhy do you use board finish rather than multi
I dread to think what the floor would look like if i attempted this….these guys make it look insanely easy when to us mere mortals it’s almost impossible. Bravo sir.
I asked my boss why it's called a hawk and he just waved it about a bit and made an eagle sound.
Makes sense, I guess
😂😂
Using that one tomorrow 😂
I got told it’s cause you hold your board like you would if a hawk was sitting on you hand made sense at the time we all call it hawk round here west midlands 😂
The word _hawk hawker hawking_ is old English for _carry goods around_ but when I have been plastering the shadow of the hawk board can look a lot like a kestrel - so who knows?
That is very impressive Kirk plastering a curve like that 👏 that is ace love how you take pride in your work well done
the first time i wrote this is seemed to get lost and not post... i was told in my apprentice days nearly 40 years ago, by a plasterer named Fred (he taught me) who had three teeth and less hair that it was called a hawk as it sits on your hand like the bird would when resting
Exactly what I got told🤣
8 years ago
in County Durham they were also called a Hawk
Mystery solved! 😂
I’m a Southerner who lived in Liverpool for 7 years! Really great videos. I’ve learnt a hell of a lot!!
This is a work of a very skilled and well experienced man, this is not easy at all, my wrist got destroyed just doing not even half of my wall! I'm not even gonna talk about the mistakes I did mixing the stuff wrong leaving the plaster all cracked up the next day!
Mastery. Pure mastery.
I love the pride you have in your work, Kirk. The little finishing touches with the small tool… wow.
Speaking of, around what stage of the set would you get into the little intricate details with the small tool?
Hawk in Scotland, (72 years old retired plasterer),that type of ceiling we have them in Scotland
Hi Kirk I’m just starting out and I can say you’re videos have helped me out a bunch thanks mate
Thats brilliant work. You made skimming rounded ceilings corners look easy 🙄🤣👌🇮🇪
I've done loads of ceilings like this down to the picture rail in the south east. A bottled ceiling is what I'd call it.
You are the Leonardo of the plaster Mr Trowel
Not seen one of those ceilings down here.
I've always called it a hawk😅 and it's up the wooden hill
I’m in Gloucester. Never worked on the curved ceilings. I call it a hawk as well. But I’m not going to tell someone who can plaster like you you’re wrong. Top work
I live in the South of England now but I'm Irish. Yes I've seen these ceilings but I'm not sure Hawk is a cockney thing we call it a hawk in Ireland, who knows eh. Cheers for the video mate
i'm retired plasterer, and i hated doing curved ceilings , kirk makes it look so easy, and does a great job
Thanks mate
Absolutely fantastic work and great to watch Kirk 👍🏻
Said it before and ill say it say it again, I’m a multi skilled joiner and can put a wall or ceiling on and get a good finish but Kirk makes it look so so much easier than it actually is. It takes years and years of doing this day in day out to get to this level of skill. And the point is you never see Kirk stress at all, no matter how big the job he never loses it. And anyone who has novice level experience as a plasterer knows how stressful it can be! Great vid mate 👍
Your totally right pal I'm 37 been plastering 20year and there's not a day goes by that I don't loose it at least once a day 😂 plastering looks easy Wen you watch a guy with year of experience but trust me it's very hard and takes years to prefect class job as usual Kirk 👏
Thanks fellas 🙏
@@Onthetrowel Kirk I hope your sticking your beads on with mitre bond it's unbelievable pal av mentioned it to you a few times I still not seen you do it 😂😂 honestly it's a game changer no movement Nd ready to skim straight away it's the only bit of advice I cud give you haha you do everything else to wot looks like profection 😀
@@markrobson9894
That’s fine if all corners are plumb & level etc.
@@grahamgodwin7200 totally agree mate but have many plasterer's do you no that Hoy a level on there beads 😂 also on board work there shouldn't be no reason why it's not all plumb pal just mitre mate there's no movement in beads unlike staples Nd clouts etc but hey each to there own
Beautiful work! Good job!
Hello mucka,
Done loads of rounded ceilings mostly in central London. Get em still I'm on the east coast now..
Hawk or handboard all the same, get ya gear on the wall 🍻
Hope ya ticking over bud...I know things are slowing down for a lot of blokes..
Plastered for 10 years south and south west, first time I've seen a ceiling like that was your videos 😂
Sits on arm like hunting hawk. Some barreled cielings in East anglia. On one edge usually. Not many.
Nice attention to detail on the finishing makes for a great job.🎉
seen and done it in devon many a time. it's great fun hacking the old ceilings down and re lathing then lime plastering them.
love watching your videos make plastering look so simple top man 👍🏻
Kirk can you send me the link for the carbon steel trowel please
+1 for this 👍
kirkstrowel.carrd.co/
I want to buy one Kirk
Watch your program with my husband and no he is not a plasterer. We just admire the high standard you work to. However, can I just say as a mum of 5 and grandmum what I admire most - your dedication to your family. On a Friday night you want to get home to your family to spend time with your kids. ❤
Got to be honest southern plasterer here and probably done about 2-3 hand coved ceilings in about 20!years loads of rolled ceilings in lofts and splayed ceilings but very rarely see a hand coved. Great work as always Kirk
Another mint job Kirk. I’m in Grimsby, everyone I know calls it a hawk. And my house is full of them ceilings
Called a Hawk in Australia as well.
Got curves on my upstairs ceilings as the rafters cut through. I had to rebuild the curves as I reboarded the rooms - I used bonding and made a profile out of stainless steel to get the curve back.
Hi Kirk in the Midlands it's a mixed bag some call it hand board some call it a hawk. I myself call it a hawk and trowel as that's what I was told from my teacher. As regards to those type of ceilings you very rarely come across a double cove without a wooden hip in the middle. Their are lots of the ceilings with double coves but they usually have a hip beam coming down to separate the auquard double cove if U get me.
Brilliant job there...impressive mate. 👏
Called a hawk in Norfolk 👍and its great to watch someone make what can be such a frantic line of work look so calm and relaxed, everytime i end up looking like ive just outrun a cheetah 😂
When I plastered in the seventies, we also called it a hoc. That was North America, My Dad was a brickie and he called a hoc a triangular trough the labourers used to carry mort. The curved ceiling to wall we called a cove.
A master at work, great job bud 👍🏻
Thankyou
I've always known them as French coving. Nice when they are done well, NOT for the inexperienced spreads!!! Good work 👏👏
I'm from Yorkshire - never seen a ceiling like it!
Hi kirk, I'm down south and I've done my fair share of those ceilings. It's mainly the cornish style houses that have those ceilings down this way. Keep up the good work fella and I'll see you in the next video 😉👍
I first learnt plastering in Galway in 1999/2000 and we always called it a hawk (hawk and trowel)…
That ceiling looks great btw Kirk 🙌🏻
Or is it the bottom of the upper floor, up the apples n pears nah what I mean geezer, snooker loopy nuts are we 🤣🤣🤣
I'm near Portsmouth and yes plasterers here seem to shit themselves when they see barrel ceilings(curved) ...and the guys I used in the end done an Ok job but not great...had them back to rectify the curves but wasn't great...Watching you do a great job wishing you did mine.
Cracking video mate. What a plasterer you am 👌top job
From Norfolk and we call it a hawk and we have these types of ceilings haven’t attempted them yet my boss man does those lol , cracking work mate
We do get those type of ceilings in portsmouth 👍
Love your content mate.. good on ya
Great work and trowel control.
Cracking job what trowel r spreading on with
Simply lovely job!
Yeah I live in the “cotswoeld” I suppose and never came across ceiling like that. Granted we have curve ceilings just not ones that drop halfway down the wall with the rail. Same as we don’t have many houses that have cornice. Even though I would love to do a ceiling like this. Great video once again
I'm in Somerset. We have a few houses with them ceilings and I have always called it a hawk
Nice job Kirk!
Thankyou my mate
lived in London for 25 years, never seen any apartment with a curved ceiling like that. But I rented a flat in Paris once and that had an amazing plastered ceiling just like that, curves everywhere
In the South done quite a few , lots of 60s 70s places used to have them, more and more got converted in the 80s to flat ceilings so don't see as many now
Hi great job matey here on the Isle of Wight have come across a few ceilings with a curve but mostly on the outside walls but mostly flats or covered like in attics or when the roof/wall are at slightly different heights and it’s called a hawk here😊👍
Weve got whats called mucklow houses with hipped roofs, you get a double barrel in the bedrooms which you have a sweeping curve in both corners they are a night mare to skim as well
Great work I enjoy watching the hand cove ceilings done a few myself over the years btw loving the pink SBR it’s the nuts will be buying it on a regular basis for sure 👍👍👍
I wondered why it was pink 😂😂😂
😂
smooth and clean 🎉 you are godlevel
Man i hate them curves. You make it look effortless 😮
Ive always managed to convince the customer to get rid although i do hope one day ill get the hang of them.
Brilliant vid. Ill have another attempt after watching this .
Awesome vid..... nice one Bro 👊🏽👳🏽♂️
I’m from the south (Reading), but when working across Berkshire, Surrey, Hampshire, Oxfordshire and London, I’ve never seen such one of those ceilings.
Wow, that is the first time I've seen you plaster with a tool other than your trowel :D
Always known it as a hawk we have hose ceilings in Hampshire on older houses all about rolling your wrist i stll struggle 😂😂😂👍👍
Just reading these comments on the shittaz,flippin hilarious 😂it seems only you call it a hand board!!! If I get piles its your fault watching these videos! Love ya geezer, respect
😅🤣🤣🤣
Absolute top draw. Amazing work
Don’t worry mate, we had our fair share of fun doing those ceilings down south 👍
Collision expert Bricklayer, kirk expert plasterer.. 😊🇫🇷🇫🇷
To mix thistle I use a cycle cog wielded to metal pole.
No drills 🎉🎉😂😂
From london ive done lots of them ceilings but only in older properties. And hawk not hand board.
Love your work
Quality video as always. Loved the with half circle artex..same as one I’m going attempt..with the Kirk Johnstone method..😁..up to know from what learned from watching your vids hopefully will come out as good as walls 👍🏻🤗😁
Got loads of them ceilings down in Kent. We call em the double rounds 🤣 smashing videos my man !! Call it a hawk here!! Probably because a hawk sits on your wrist arm ?
I learnt to plaster in Carlisle and it was called a hawk as well as a handboard so i very much doubt its just a southern term.
Spot on bruv👍
Question.
Do you ever use a so called speed trowel for polishing?
Thought you might have used one on that ceiling as it’s supposed to be quicker with two hands and a metre or more trowel.
I'm a carpenter /joiner in Australia.... we call them Hawks down here and that's way south of where you are..... don't ask me why they call them Hawks....😄😃😀🇦🇺
Your insanely good at what you do..
Hawk because it makes that noise when you scrape it 😂
Would love to see you do a youtube crossover event with the Vancouver Carpenter! Get him over to try out the UK way of doing things and then you could head over there for the return fixture!
Im from North London , we had ceilings with curves joining the walls.
Because you hold it like you're feeding a bird of prey on one of those thick leather gloves. 'here look, it's our Kes!'
Hi Kirk Theres lots of handcove ceilings in Bristol. I think the reason its called a hawk is to do with old bird of prey hunting hawks & the way they where held. :D
Top work that pal
Lots of hand cove here In the West Midlands mainly 1950s property
I got a question, ive been watching many of ur vids lately and im impressed. I tried searching up the products you are using but they arent in my country ( the netherlands ). What we use for plaster is mostly : MP75.
Have you ever used that?
I'm from the north and I have always heard it called a hawk. My dad did live in the south for a while, so maybe thats why.
Yes. We do have ceilings with curves down south. I've have to line ceilings like your one. Not easy. Unless you know how.
only thing i can think about hawk is it sits on ur hand like a hawk does (perches on ya hand when ur training them) but thats a push for the only thing i can think of.
Yep that's what I was told back in the late eighties by a master plasterer it sits on your arm just like you have a hawk
How long did it take to do that ceiling ..looks beautiful by the way great job
About 3 and a half hours mate
22 year old plasterer from Portsmouth. In all the old town houses they’re very common
Beautiful!
I'm from southend and come across this ceilings from time to time in the dated properties, what trowel are you using there? Also someone told me that them cheap footballs are a good aid for getting the shape of them corners, I use my little bat wing coving trowel!
Kirk, probably a silly question but why do you use board finish instead of multi finish? Smashing it out though great to see.
Just sets faster mate. And multi has been a nightmare lately with peeling off
@Onthetrowel did my time up in Scotland as a plasterer, but that was more than a few years ago, hence wondering what has changed as i I still like to keep my hand in so thanks for getting back to me. We call it a hawk up here, too. Never asked why just went with it. Ha. Your tips are amazing for someone like me who can do it but only really Diy's now and helps out family and friends. Great to see a master at work. 👍
Nice one Kirk 👍
As a multi skilled joiner I’ve done all my plastering in our house, although not to your perfect standards but good enough based on your tutorials. I’ve got a ceiling that will need doing and really fancy putting in a curve on it as looks pleasing to the eye, should I build out the corner between ceiling and wall with bonding to create the curve? 👌👌👌
Good job with round corners!
Those round corners are pretty common in germany (at least around Berlin when I was plastering for few years). They call this "wut" or something like this. Once we did this in all house with clay plaster, but with much bigger radius... To profile this schape we use plastix pipe 110mm 😁
I'm a drywaller here in Canada and we call those hawks also. Masons also use them.
I brought one from wickes, it was called a plasterers hawk! There’s a pub by me called ‘the bird in hand’ and there’s a picture of a man with a hawk in his hand, can only think it’s referring to something like this!
I'm from Portsmouth we call it a hawk have a look in toolstation it's called a plasterers Hawk ,love watching the videos, Kev aged 60
My issue is people saying (brought) instead of bought 😂
I remember seeing an explanation about the hawk years ago. There was a picture of this thing that was literally shaped like a hawks head. It had two angled sides to keep the mud contained. It wasn’t flat. The shape of the tool changed but the name stuck I guess.
Plasterer down south, I think I’ve done 1 or 2 of these type of ceilings in over 20years, my current house has them but it’s an older property with high ceilings. Where I am it’s definitely a handboard, and the the little black rubber coving tool we’d use on tight curves is affectionate known as the “spanker” 😂
🤣🤣
Good job
Using 16x4 marshalltown carbon steel ?