the failure of affirmative action
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DEI is in the headlines, so today I'm discussing the failure of Affirmative Action.
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How the Ivy League Broke America
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The Failure of Affirmative Action
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Something I keep in mind as a child of black immigrants is that it's easy to start from 0 and then go up. It is harder, much harder to start at -5000, and then have to go up. Because just hitting 0 is already a massive undertaking.
Well said! It’s refreshing when ppl get it 🙌🏽
Absolutely. I didn't get it when I was younger and neither did my folks that immigrated. Growing up we volunteered and got involved in our community and when I was teenager I remembered one day my mother said to me she believed life would had been different had she been born in America and might have avoided a lot of issues she faced as a immigrant in this country. However she also admitted that there were so many different challenges she never had to face that felt all encompassing and generational that might had made our lives a lot worse off if she was born in this country.
Yes, and a big issue is that African immigrants are starting at 0, whereas Black Americans are starting at -5000, but they are categorized and treated the same when it comes to DEI policies like affirmative action. We need to relabel and regroup to properly account for these historical differences and inequities. While I’m not a fan of the term ADOS, I completely agree with the concept of creating a group distinct from African immigrants in order to properly address Black Americans who have been affected by the generational trauma and inequality of slavery.
@@caseygreyson4178 Why don't you like the term ADOS?
@@TheBest-zi2fpright lol
Affirmative action and DEI needed to be reformed to help people, but gutting these policies were nothing but racism.
Took the words right out my mouth
Agreed.
Elaborate?
This is proof you just like using a word because everybody else is using it. Let’s say only white people was the only ones that were pushing racism. Wouldn’t that make them trying to prove that Black people are a superior? And wouldn’t that make them a black supremacist and a racist? Racism is a religion , a belief, a follow. And what God are you praying to that believes in that stuff? How does it feel to find out that youre the white supremacist and a racist? But you will sit there and call everybody else one why?it’s your beliefs.
@@blue_wolfproductions12 racism is a religion
As an poor Asian who got into MIT through Questbridge (which is an affirmative action program that aims to allow people of a lower SES class get into a university), I am infuriated by the way people treat affirmative action and make assumptions based on the color of our skin. My best friend, who is black, also got in through the same program. It is infuriating that people NEVER assumed I got into MIT through affirmative action and that I worked so hard to get in. My friend and I both worked super hard to graduate MIT but it was upsetting to see the way people treated her. People acted like she didn't work hard, even though I saw her bust her ass off when we studied together. Plus, she was super smart in all the classes we took together. She was both a genius and a super hard worker, and yet, when it came time to get a job and go into the real world, people assumed that she got in to MIT without working hard, when she in fact had to work even harder because she came from a disadvantaged lower SES background.
It's just plain racism. I'm so thankful for affirmative action for getting me into MIT (and feel a bit lucky/guilty that people never made assumptions about me). I am thankful that when I was at MIT, I was in a diverse class that felt like family. It makes me a bit sad to see how this wonderful thing gets distorted by society.
I saw a post that said the reversal of affirmative action in Ivy League schools was not because those slots were being occupied, but because people like you were recognizing the humanity of people that do not look like you. They are trying to reinforce a new generation of segregation. “What we are seeing is pushback of more and more people recognizing the humanity of other people.” Dr. Koritah Mitchell
thank the non-profit. "asian penalty" comes from the fact affirmative action disproportionately effects asian americans in a negative way.
Your affirmative action was based on your economic class though. Which I don't think is a bad thing. The same way scholarships are given to poorer people. The problem is when you are admitted when you didn't meet up the cut off mark. It won't just affect you in competing with your mates in school. But it will deceive you till you graduate that you are good in something that you are not.
especially crazy to make assumptions like that at MIT. someone not qualified will not be able to pass the GREs. if people discriminated and made assumptions on campus, i imagine it's even worse after graduation, when amongst people who don't realize the base difficulty of the mit curriculum.
@@bibaolaitan5189 why do you feel so comfortable telling someone about themselves when you know nothing of who they are as people?
I currently work at Harvard business school, and yes. I told someone that it’s majority white, then Asian, then Latino/black but most of the black peoples aren’t African American
Which means what exactly?
@@dangelo1369that its blacks mostly from African countries who are sent by rich parents
@@dangelo1369 They told you what it means: "but most of the black people aren’t African Americans." My question is, why aren't there any African Americans at Harvard Business School?
@dangelo1369 ...did you watch the video?
i notice that it's mainly black non american people in high positions usually, and that should change.
The bit about class is so similar to the UK. We have private schools here that operate as a 'non-profit' and their argument for why they are a 'charity' is that they offer free scholarships. But when you look into it, they rarely offer it to underprivileged kids, but to people who could actually afford the fees, on the grounds of things like sports. And they're not offering it for sports that working class kids excel at, like soccer, it's for things like rowing. I had a friend from a really wealthy background, privately-educated, etc, and he was offered a full scholarship to university because he could play the organ. How many working class kids do you think have ever touched an organ?
That's the thing about any of these schemes. The middle and upper classes will quickly take something designed to promote social mobility, and figure out a way to take it for themselves.
Again in the UK, we were all encouraged to congratulate Rishi Sunak on becoming the first person of colour to become the Prime Minister. This was a man who was born into wealth, educated in exclusive private schools his whole life, and married into one of the richest families in India (and had the exact policies you'd expect of someone from that background), but we're expected to congratulate him on overcoming all of the discrimination he faced to become PM. I remember seeing the election campaign poster of someone who wanted to become head of the student union at Cambridge University, and one of her key points was that she'd be a champion of ethnic minority students because as an Indian, she knew what it was like to be a minority. Except that she'd only just arrived in the UK. For the previous 20 years of her life, she'd grown up as a rich Indian in India. So what does she actually know about being a minority? But that didn't stop her trying to use something designed to benefit people underprivileged because of their race to get elected.
That's why, as well meaning (and historically important) as these racial forms of affirmative action are/were, going forward, I think that any affirmative admissions criteria should be more focused on parental income. If I get the same grades as someone who went to private school their whole life, then I should get the place ahead of them. I've achieved the same results with fewer resources. But in reality, they'd probably look at my summers working in a supermarket because we could use the extra cash, and his summers doing volunteer work or getting an unpaid internship related to the subject that daddy got him, and give him the place.
On behalf of the Black /African American Community (especially the college graduates) - I just wanna say THANK YOU SO MUCH for this video. As a Black American College graduate this really validated so many of the feelings and struggles I experienced during those years. I graduated with a degree in Africana Studies and this nuance is one that is RARELY discussed but the BLACK community needs to if we ever want to actually successfully unify. PS: As a Black American Male in college I basically felt like a unicorn.
@@fortheculture4553 how did you like the field? What did you learn? It sounds interesting
it's because you are a unicorn, statistically speaking.
Thank you for acknowledging all of this. African Americans fought so that everyone BUT them could benefit. Most people are unaware that most of the benefits missed us.
I learned so much from this video, thank you. I didn’t realize there was such a disparity between black immigrants and “the descendants.”
I also think your point about early education possibly being more of a force for leveling the playing field compared to elite colleges is a great point.
Thank you for bringing nuance to this controversial and often oversimplified topic.
Thanks for making this video. You're 100% correct in what you've said. As someone from the Caribbean myself, I've lived in the US as a student and I know firsthand the negative rhetoric in some Black immigrant communities. I do my best to shut down the ignorance.
Hey Amanda great video! I am first generation Haitian-American. I was born in the U.S.A. My African-American peers in University had similar thoughts about how so few poor Black (African-Americans) specifically, were being brought into universities. Great job with this video!
this is such an amazing video!!! I’ve had so many talks with friends about how data should be collected to see how many African-Americans are attending college versus everyone who identifies as black. I think it would be eye-opening to see just how much progress HASNT been made for our community.
Ooooooo this!! This is good
I'm sure that data is out there
17:00 same. I'm Nigerian-American but most black people I knew growing up had generations of history in this country. it wasn't until I went to college where I met so many other black "specific country-Americans" who either add birthright citizenship or were naturalized.
Whether there was DEI or not, Blacks had to work multi times harder to get the basic considerations. Black people benefitted from DEI, Affirmative Action, and Welfare the least.
Black *descendants* benefited the least
If I got into Harvard I wouldn't care if it is DEI because then I can work 10x harder to show I belong there
This is pretty much what I’ve always thought affirmative action was: a school with mainly white upper middle class students have to choose between two equally qualified candidates, an Indian woman from a poor background and a upper middle class white man. The school picks the equally qualified Indian woman because she presented herself in a different perspective than most candidates due to her background. If this is affirmative action then I have very little issue with it.
Conservatives have made it about choosing UNQUALIFIED people of color which is often not the case they just assume they’re unqualified which seems racist imo.
Seems racist bc it is
It is racist
Funnily enough, it's mostly affecting white women.
And... no, nobody is taking less qualified people per se. It's just evening out a playing field which is absolutely not even. At all
You are also becoming more protected in the workplace, whether you want to admit it or not. Yeah at one point we had a black woman who kept showing up late, do maybe 3 hours of work a day, was she fired, no. You are at a point where firing her may have her turn around and sue for racism, so companies are looking the other way, countless stories like this.
@@yeahyeahwowman8099 uh huh. Whatever you say
@@yeahyeahwowman8099 And where was this job? Because if it was fast food, they don’t fire people because they need the workers lmao.
I really appreciate this video. Both sides of my family are descendants and our grandparents were born in the USA. The anti African American diaspora wars are so frustrating. My sister went to Harvard in 2023 and it’s exactly as the research described.
Thank you for this. As a Black American I noticed in college that my peers were African immigrants, many who didn’t see us as being the same. I appreciate the acknowledgment
@17:00 Majority of the “Black Immigrants” you see in colleges are actually international students, not first generation.
American higher education is quite literally sustained by charging higher tuition to us than their population.
In PWIs, Black international students have equal to more attendance when compared to First generation and African American students. However, the statistics are different when we look at HBCUs, Black international students make up the least, followed by first generation, then African Americans.
The reason being for the number of Black international/ third culture kids is because of global competition for jobs- western degrees are seen as more legitimate than degrees from institutions in our countries.
There’s a lot of missing context!
Also a brief look at statistics shows that as of 2022, there are 5.3 million Black college graduates in the United States. Of these graduates, U.S.-born Black graduates account for 82 percent, and Black immigrants account for 18 percent. Please don’t fall for incitement.
@@JO-fk5hois born black doesn't disqualify their parents from immigration status. I'm one of those us born and my family did look down on blacks that have been here and I mentioned how privileged my family was to come here in the first place and get free schooling. It's way easier for immigrants
As a Black, African-American college graduate who is a descendent of American enslaved people, this is 100% accurate of my college experience. I had the grades to get into college back in 2000, but I lacked any generational support. It was incredibly challenging to earn my Bachelors degree that I didn't pursued a Masters even though all of my white and non-African American peers did. I am now over the age of 40 and going back to school. It took decades for me to stop blamining myself for college being so culturally difficult, and for being so personally under-resourced. I had the intelligence and work ethic, but that's not all one needs to move up multiple social and economic classes in America.
Very thoughtful video. These ppl wanna be oppressed so bad that equity feels like discrimination. Yt fragility is so real 🤦🏽♀️.
Edit: As an ADOS I appreciate your perspective because there is a difference. The precollege programs for me were very helpful. I grew up in a home my parents owned with both 2 parents, but they weren’t college educated so the exposure was critical for me. As a medical professional 👩🏽🔬🔬🧬🧫 I’m grateful for those initiatives ❤️🖤💚
Love the eccentric energy behind such an informative topic.
People who discuss this often times make it a boring lecture.
Love when learning is approachable 🙂↕️
Thanks for your critical analysis. I'm a Black woman in her 50s...all grand parents born in USA as a point of reference... and you made me think of AA in a way I hadn't. I'm looking forward to other content.😊
New subscriber. My daughter recommended your content. You are a informed young person and we need more content like this.
I also attended an Ivy League and there was very little support for kids like me. Tbh, I wish I had attended another non-Ivy university. Freshman year, I made friends with a lot of other low-income students, and found out that they were invited to a pre-orientation program from which I was somehow excluded. I'm AA from a poor neighborhood, but I had attended a "merit-based" public high school (I had really high test scores, lots of extracurriculars, all A's) so maybe that's the university's reasoning. However, that doesn't change the fact that I still grew up low-income and didn't have the same connections and resources that the well-off kids had.
At my university, there was a Black student organization for the entire diaspora, a Caribbean student organization, and an African student organization. I understand the need of the other two as serving cultural needs for students not in their home countries, but it would be nice for AAs to have the same cultural support, especially as minorities within a minority on a campus with an already low percentage of Black students. I'm not sure the true percentage, but it felt like less than 25% of Black students were AAs and an even smaller number were from neighborhoods like mine.
This is really accurate and informative, it's amazing how the reality of this and so many things is just so easily obfuscated today.
I work for a company weve all heard of, one of our "diversity leaders" for campus recruitment - meaning speaking to "underprivileged srudents" was the son of a nigerian oil billionaire. He counted towards rhe diversity quota
My asian brothers who celebrated AA being struck down shame me
i've never really considered how affirmative action actually helped (black) african students get opportunities to study in the US. now that i think about it, my sister, brother and cousin (MIT, Tufts, UPenn respectively) got the chance to study in America because of affirmative action. i won't deny they worked incredibly hard to get there (all their preparations and SATs were done here at home where they had to restructure their curriculum from kenyan to american) but i still think that if it wasn't for affirmative action and the immigration laws, they wouldn't really have had that opportunity.
From one Amanda to another, thank you for the well done, informative video.
As an African (east) and sb who loves history, black Americans hold a very special place in my heart because they wnet through so much all the racial politics, sometimes idek how they've been able to handle being a minority in a nation where their ancestors suffered so much because of race and how that stuff canot just be forgotten because its tied to their identity, as black people, theres so much racial trauma and its so hypocritical when they say its time to firget about slavery and all the things that followed yet no one's telling the jews to forget the Holocaust or America to forget 911, and guarantee itll be the same a hundred years from now. I'm so frustrated by Africans who go to the states and start acting big headed, i believe its usually thw Nigerians dw they have a very weird god complex they have way to much pride but oh well, i feel like African education systems should start to empasize the impact of the civil rights movement on our own freedom here from colonisation, the way they fought for equality had a positive ripple effect on all other people of colour
A few points.
1. Immigrants in general are better educated and usually wealthier than Americans when they arrive. It's not a surprise their children are also better educated.
2. The post-Affirmative Action college attendance has gone from the low teens for every non-white racial group to on par with whites (higher for Asians). White college attendance hasn't changed since the 1940's from 29-31%. Affirmative Action is having no dramatic effect on white attendance.
3. The rise of Affirmative Action coincided with an end to subsidies for college. Since black immigrants are wealthier than black natural born citizens, their attendance is aligned.
4. Every racial group but whites has incredibly high support for Affirmative Action. Asians supported Affirmative Action at rates as high as 77% the year it ended.
5. Almost 90% of race-based scholarships are reserved for white students due to ethnic background and family lineage. In what world are colleges going to do backflips to take this money and give it to black and Latino and Asian students? Please explain that logic.
6. Blaming Affirmative Action for poor black students not benefitting AS MUCH as middle class immigrants acts as if those black students were going to college before Affirmative Action.
7. The wealth gap between black and white households dropped from 14:1 to 7:1 over the last 20 years. Because of DEI and Affirmative Action. Good luck with that one.
Poor black folks can't afford college. Taking away Affirmatice Action isn't going to make college cheaper. It's not going to make colleges suddenly want to do the opposite of what they were doing before Affirmative Action.
It's like the educational equivalent of giving tax cuts to billionaires so they create more jobs after seeing them do 100 years of stock buybacks specifically because tax cuts make them more money if they don't hire people.
Immigrants are usually not wealthier look at Latin Americans in the us for an example the reason africans do „better“ in the us is a bit complex
@Odumase my friend is Nigerian in Nigeria she is rich, her mom is a famous actor yet in the US I guess she is middle class. I can't say the same about the Latin Americans In my class but Compared to your avg. African a immigrant I guess is more wealthier
@Raimu_u yes that’s true but In general immigrants in the us are not usually richer than us born citizens the reason why are Africans are is a bit complicated
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@Odumase We aren’t talking about LatAm immigrants because they’re not the ones being admitted. We are talking abt immigrants from overseas. Those people have a leg up upon immigration.
Universities need to have affirmative action based on class more than race. If Harvard required 10% of attendees have both parents be US born and in the bottom 20% of US income bracket, it would open the doors more for both poor African American but also poor whites and 2nd generation Hispanic and Asians Americans, all of which they need more of at ivy league which have gotten even more aristocratic then they were in the 1950s.
You make me proud girl. Jeezam
Bravo!!! this video was so well thought out and structured, great work. Your efforts are truly appreciated.
I always find your work to be very well done ❤ thank you 🙂
My instinct is to be on the side of affirmative action being misguided. It seems like most people prefer the idea of meritocracy, and things that compromise or undermine that ideal can be damaging, and I sympathize with the experience of people who feel similarly to Clarence Thomas. As such I would prefer that the money and time spent on fine tuning affirmative action measures be instead spent on perfecting the meritocratic system, such as improving public schooling and helping low income families to remove the impediments low income kids have to putting effort into school, and social safety net measures that alleviate inequality more generally. That being said if I were merely in charge of a university and not a legislator in government I can't say for sure I wouldn't be tempted to put in place at least some kind of preference for economically disadvantaged applicants, since that's all I would be able to do and I do believe in equality of opportunity.
Thank u for the wisdom queen! ♥️
As a QuestBridge alum, I felt that SES diversity was largely missing from college, even though there was a lot of racial diversity.
Never thought I’d hear this kinda stuff from African people but glad everyone’s getting it now. Love your videos !
@@Wooddweller „African people“ she is Caribbean😐
@ “it’s not a tomato 🍅 it’s ketchup”.
@@Wooddweller by that logic black Americans are Africans too
@@Wooddweller you are the ketchup too 🤣🤣🤣
@Odumase yes 🙌🏽 🌍
I think affirmarive action should be class based, rather than based on other identity markers. The issue is that america's brain is fried from the red scare, so that would be COMMUNISM or w/e. A class based form of affirmative action would benefit all the groups that racial affirmative action seeks to help, without alienating the demographics who are left out.
Yeah the red scare enacted on its own civilians to terrorize them too, most of it was made up propaganda 🥲
You have to reckon with institutional racism otherwise class based affirmative action will just disproportionately benefit poor whites more under our white supremacist system.
As a white man, I'm clearly the victim. Joking aside, it would be great if we could come up with a truly intersectional form of affirmative action. But I have no idea how to do that without creating an opaque mess of regulation.
It is already interactional.
Like... it's for women, mostly. First of all.
Vets are preferred and people from rural areas.
It was just not visible.
It's wild.
@@vincentwinqvist4023 It's very easy actually. Just do it based on parents income/assets.
Thank you for this !! 🙏🏾 as always
havent watched the video yet, idk what amandas usual demographic is, but the ability to consistently have great video ideas is pretty great, like that video on nyc making a comeback or sumlove that, the rest of my yt feed is filled with history tech vox style videos politics, shit can get pretty boring but then boom this channel lpops up every once in a while letsgo
I was listening to a NPR podcast and they said Affirmative Action didn't affect 96 percent of Americans.
So well said!! 👏🏾
Bertrand cooper wow 😅didn’t expect you pull that one out
Solid presentation. Thanks offering us ADOS/FBAs an olive branch. Immigrant blacks love to call us lazy, and don't realize the system is playing us against each other.
I am second generation and my family are Black immigrants. I did notice their were not Black kids whose parents didn't come from a Caribbean island in my school but I am from NYC.
Why do you think Black immigrants get more opportunities to have upward mobility that African Americans do not? I know it's not because one is smarter than the other. But I also know that all Black immigrants aren't always wealthy than African Americans before they come to America. My grandparents were definitely not. What made this gap?
Class. Many AA are dealing with abject and cyclical poverty. Your family and community ties are strong. Ours, not as much. Individualism has steeped itself in our culture along with other vices. It’s hard to lift your entire family out poverty. For most Africans your parents are in careers. Doctor’s, Nurses, professors, and administrators. A lot our parents were service workers bus drivers, janitors, nannie’s, cooks, teachers, waiters all on low wages for centuries. Centuries. That doesn’t just change over a few decades. Lifting entire families out of poverty is hard especially when all take is one parent to get hooked on drugs or not go to school to change the trajectory of a whole generation. It’s like one of the other girls said you all start at 0 but we start at like -5000. I couldn’t explain this to my African friend he just couldn’t see the difference and blamed it on victim/inferiority complex.
@@annieareyouok7671100% correct especially the individualism aspect. Every other community has a family oriented culture which is needed to create and retain wealth, but American culture promotes individualism and that affects black Americans most because the individual resources aren’t there for most black Americans.
@@lovelyone1359 Yes! It’s so awful in the black community people parents will put them out at 18 with nothing but a car and job and leave them to figure it out or will immediately start charging them rent and making them pay bills. It’s awful you enter adult hood immediately behind. And if your parents are abusive they’ve already ruined that kids credit and lent it to other people for taxes. That is what happened to me. Thankfully that person didn’t completely ruin my credit, but they did mess up mg ability to file taxes. Every year I have to go to the IRS building and tax payer franchise building to set the record straight and file in person. I feel like before I buy a home I need to change my number completely.
@@lovelyone1359I disagree here that individualism in the African American community is a big factor for not retaining wealth. Latinos have a similar poverty rate to us and many of them have very family oriented values. Native Americans have an even higher poverty rate than us. It's about oppression.
Formal studies have shown mixed results about valuing individualism vs collectivism in our culture, but looking at AA history, especially activism and mutual aid will provide plenty of examples for collectivism both inside the family unit and in the broader community as well. Black Americans have tried to build wealth in a bunch of ways, but have been met with systematic violence at every turn. The history of Black-owned banks is a very good example of this. Housing is also a good example of this. There's too much at play, but it's not a coincidence that the indigenous people of this land and others who were brought here to be enslaved have worse outcomes than groups that come and build here of their own free will.
Maybe discrimination but Caribbean education depending on the country is a bit more rigorous than the average school in the USA. I know many students American born with Caribbean parents start in the Caribbean and finish in the USA, this way they get a head start. I always thought Caribbean education was lacking because it only goes to grade 11, but I was wrong. Some stuff done even in grade 11, you might start in college. Grade 12&13 (CAPE level) is optional or mandatory depending on the country. This is equivalent to AP classes or even college level classes. Caribbean education is more focused on standardized testing, etc., and is based/ made to compete with European education systems since not all countries are fully independent and the option to do for example GCSE is available.
I can say this because a failing student could easily become an A student in the USA due to better access to opportunities, a lot more discipline (enforsed by schools) and the fact that while most countries have education systems designed to fail/pass everyone, the USA education system is only designed to pass everyone.
Adding to that, immigrants tend to stick together and support each other.
And finally, Caribbean parents value education and sees it as an important tool to get our of poverty, etc. It is seen as a symbol of pride to have educated children, in fact, "you should always achieve just as much or even more than your parents."
Maybe if you were an immigrant and already experienced a tough education system and adapted the discipline it could've been different. The gap could probably be your grandparents and parents coming as immigrants, but not benefiting from the education system because they came at the wrong time of their lives.
Edit: I'd like to add on the point of discrimination. As much as racism exist in all American countries, those countries in the South has a long history of race mixing. With things like Jim Crow and systematic discrimation against black people, it is easy to see how black people in the USA could be differnet from black people in other countries. In other countries, even if black people are a minority, black people left a strong influence on society. This might be visible in the USA but for the most part, I notice many black USA citizens keep to themselves and there isn't much of a mixing of cultures available as in other countries. Just an observation that many minorities in the USA naturally don't mix for some reason. I remember someone having an issue with white people wearing cornrows but excused it when a brazillian white woman did it. The difference is that fact that cultures mixed more in those countries and no one bats an eye if you do something associated with a different ethnicity(they still have their own racist problems).
Affirmative action has always been a band-aid to cover the real issues of racial and class disparity. Under our white supremacist capitalist regime, the failure of the band-aid to solve the problem became an easy target for fascists and right wingers to latch onto.
Yes, affirmative action has done some real good for many people who were able to find success within the system, but unless we make real changes to the social order, it's just another corporate buzzword that white people in power can slap on to make them feel good about themselves for being progressive.
This is also true in business loans. Immigrant groups are afforded grants for businesses that American Descendant of the Enslaved are not. From the Italians, Jewish, Latino, Asian, now middle Eastern and Caribbean and african immigrants
Also have businesses in our communities but we arent afforded the same access to business loans to start our own businesses in our communities
This is such a good video! (And I'm not just saying that)
It really got me to check my *own* privilege and circumstances as a child of black immigrants. Thanks, Amanda! 😮💨
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Clarence Thomas is in no position to saying that Affermative Action is a problem in "minorites" success. Dude benefited, and choose to take it away due to his own racial descrimination. Being a minority will always be discriminated no matter how high up in the ladder you are. Can't please those people, tolerance is a pain, and can be traumatic which can create resentment if you aren't strong enough mentally.
amazing video, ty for posting
I come here for the truth ❤
The US has always been and will forever be such a weird and dystopian country, I don't get why the world love and looks up to them so much, it was never the land of the free and there was never an American dream
@@adrixvicent because of social media
00:18 Chattanooga walking bridge shoutout!
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maybe there will be a new class based affirmative action/DEI sort of thing. thats pretty much the only way we can pivot since race based AA is somehow unconstitutional.
Didn’t finish the video yet but I always thought affirmative action should operate based off zip code and not race
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17:25 because you refer to them as “Black” instead of “melanated” thereby conflating identities
You know what DEI really is? Different ECONOMIC backgrounds, not rich kids of all different colors
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17:33 Oh I hate it whenever I hear that saying! Try physically doing it! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! IT WAS A SARCASTIC SAYING! Boomers taking things literally know no bounds!
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I disagree with your conclusion or your premise however I like your videos and I liked some of the points you made. I feel like you ignored certain aspects which I feel are valid criticisms of DEI.
DEI is corporate capitalism morphing language. Also there are many good arguments against affirmative action. Being that discrimination isn’t an answer to discrimination
Are you slow? DEI/AA wasn’t discrimination, yall wanna be oppressed so bad 🙄. It ensured that spaces reflected the populations it was created in. Making it illegal by LAW to discriminate against a qualified person just because they weren’t a straight white male isn’t discrimination, it’s looking at everyone 🤦🏽♀️
Affirmative action isn't discrimination. No one is excluded through affirmative action.
who’s being negatively disenfranchised by affirmative action? by definition it’s inclusive not exclusive. especially when it’s meant to account for historical disenfranchisement of affected groups, not just by race but by gender, class, even veteran status.
corporate capitalists would rather there be an surplus of disenfranchised groups, that can be perpetually exploited. more people having access to higher education and well-payed labor is bad for capitalists lmao.
@@2nnawrap you really didn't answer the question. What groups specifically?
well done analysis! i had the exact same experience during college, you took the words right out of my mouth! 🫡 👍