A CRAZY Custom Faction - The Endless Mod - Pt. 1
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Modmaker here (Lunchbox0924) I'll be giving notes as we go along
- Love that fake out in the beginning, really wanted something to make players think they may have not installed the mod lol
- The model swap with the Conduit and Kerrigan is as said just a simple model side effect
- Big Thing here that I'm not sure if Grant figured out - Viral Relays provide supply, creep and healing for the Endless
- There's a lot of things to understand and read as you go along but thankfully much of it is constantly available so you're never out of the loop if you need to know
- I'm glad he found the good Doctor lol, he's a little hard to find sometimes
- Grant really took the hard route with taking that base up the ramp early lol
- He did quite well for first time running, and I am on the same page with Grant in AI Voice Acting. I'm a broke grad student who wanted to make a quality and fun mod and I don't have the money nor capability to hire many talented voice actors. This mod is free, and always will be free, I will never make money off of back of avoiding real human labor. I was a voice actor, I know the pain too well. The Conduit's voice will get better farther into the mod, his voice being as it is now is intentional. Plus we will here many better and more interesting voices as the mod progress.
I look forward to Grant conquering the sector!
Nice pun on the doctor's name. Is he voiced by AI Omar Sharif too ?
Ah, but is this actually the mod author, OR IS IT THE MOD AUTHOR'S AI OVERLORD? THE CRUEL ONE, WHO SHOWERS US WITH CORRUPT AI VOICES WHO - oops, I'm having a stroke.
@Lunchbox0924- You had a lot of fun naming these units didn't you?
Can I make one suggestion for the mod? My suggestion would be just at the start of the mission in the objectives put how many secrets are in the mission so that way GGG don't waste 40mins wondering if there are any. Also why does it have to be based on nightmare why not something easier for other people?
Out of curiosity, to reduce the number of AI voice actors, would you be open to a pro-bono (free) voice actor for this mod? Good mods deserve to be supported, and if the thing holding you back is the voices, I'd love to add mine in, to help inspire others to help out. Gets our voice out there, without the expectation/demand of us working for free. In that capacity, it's willingly working for exposure, as a good-faith show of support for your hard work. If you're interested, feel free to hit me up, this mod looks fun.
Grant reading the sentence "Produces Creep and Supply" on Viral Relay out loud but forgetting it 30 seconds later is pretty funny.
He does that with a few things, including asking if Naktul could be a friend when the second primary objective is to infest her and the secondary objective is to infest her before they destroy the cannon. And there is a beacon on the minimap showing where she is.
it gets a bit frustrating at the 100th time
Also said "I haven't ran into embracers? What are they?" When reading the tooltip about consuming units. At the second mission. The faction's first unit is named embracer.
@@KoloXD To be fair there is a lot to learn for a new faction in the first play through, while recording it. By the 101st time hopefully he will go 'this building is the creep tumor and overlord'. 'This unit is a baneling that makes terran bio mine'. 'The mission objectives tell me to kill X character, the loading screen said that killing heroes will make them mine.'
@@13g0man considering his track record, i am not so sure. Grant loves doing stupid things too much for quite some time now, and it seems to have been affecting his ability to properly grasps what this mod is about it seems
I like how Grant kept questioning himself after he didn't notice that initial zerglings turned into more embracers
It can be pretty confusing. Especially once you see what happens to actual Zerg units after they get assimilated.
"You made a mess down there, Conduit."
Jim stop grtting frisky with the eldritch horrors.
It's on brand for him.
GGG reading Viral Relay: 6:10
GGG: "Hm, I guess there's no supply building"
prime Grant
I get on him for not reading many times, but this time, there was a LOT of reading, you're going to miss some things.
@@falsnamae3511 A handful of lines of text is not ALOT.
I think "wasting" one run on reading up on the new unit is _perfectly_ acceptable Grant.
Actually, it was kinda entertaining to notice you forgot about the timer - and then _I_ eventually did _too_ which was hilariously ironic 🤣🤣
The youtube analytics disagree. If he spends time reading people leave
@demetriousramirez
People always leave anyways, cuz they're stoopid
And I meant him taking to long to finish before the timer ran out.
If there was no timer, or he needed 2 (or more) runs, it would be a different story...
i not only find it perfectly acceptable, but preferable to just missing important core mechanics.
@cornuthaum unfortunately the kind of person that leaves a comment is a minority. And statistics are the only useful gauge of engagement
I love how grants immiedietly drops the "assimilate" part of faction just to steamroll with normal units xd
He also immediately forgets the supply building so I don't know what was going through his head. Probably a lot, the Streamer tax is a thing.
@l0rf afaik he wasnt streaming that. So either just sleepy joe moment or hes engagement farming xd
@@Thalaranthey It's more of a catch-all term for content creator blindness when missing obvious things.
Based on the research I did, Josh Keaton (the voice actor for Valerion) was one of the VA's who did not want his voice work involved in anything AI. So regardless of anything else, be it moral, legal, etc.. the wishes of the VA should be respected in any case. It's his voice, regardless of the situation, and he has a right for it to not be used in such ways, unless given permission.
^ this is so important
tbf in this continuity valerian can be kileld at the start and nothing changes.
yeah, its realy sad that grant doesnt mention nit at all in the beginning..one of the major downsides fo ai is that for "training" thes "steal"/plagiarize VAs often without their consent
I love this idea, and the execution is AWESOME. It's like everything I could ever want from an infested terranlike faction. I hope we get to see even more crazy custom faction mods in the future!
That Siege tank moving via legs, instead of driving is kinda disturbing and I LOVE it
Its how infested tanks work for Stukovs faction. Well, without the spine crawler glued on top
Stukov infested tanks are actually different from the campaign infested tank, they can't attack if not rooted and they shoot normal siege tank shot (crucio shock cannon) you can see it even in the coop games too on the Miner evac map. While stukov tank shoots exploding infested and have a secondary spine crawler attack
@@GummieI you are going to love a unit that is unlocked later 😉
This is why I love Stukov's Infested Bunkers
Lunchbox really cooked with this mod
That "SARAH!" felt personal
Real "Streetcar Named Desire" energy on that one
"What have you done?!
I AM THE MAN WHO WAS GONNA KILL KERRIGAN!!!!"
When it comes to having to read a bunch of info but not having the time to do so, either because of a timer as in the video, or due to being attacked, you can pause the game. You can't change the selected unit when paused, but you can still mouse over and read the buttons. That's how I handle with reading new unit info. I meant to mention it before but would always forget.
Can the game be paused without the menu open? As that's generally an issue with WC3/SC2 if i remember right, where you can't pause in single player the same way you can in multiplayer.
@@dimitarlinov2393you can by pressing the pause button actually.
Regarding AI: if its using someone elses voice to make them say things they did not not conscent to saying...ill always lean towards the side of its bad. Free fan project or not, it's using someone elses voice to make them say things. Id rather projects just use real people to voice it even if they arent GOOD at voice acting.
I absolutely love the little detail about Nests being able to be build everywhere being too close to the mineral line
It really shows how much these Endless guys don't give a crap about StarCraft's usual rules.
Lunchbox really cooked with this one. Hell yeah
Ravenholm is the place where you first encounter the Fast Zombies ! They do indeed leap like that little guy !
i thought he said ravenwhore lol but you are right
Grant just casually ignoring that the same building that generate creep is also the one that generates supply.
To be fair. He didn't get taught during the first mission, he just presumed hatcheries offer supply and played to match.
He's a content creator, and didn't pay the moment of attention to learn that his healing creep tumours are overlords too.
@@glenmcgillivray4707 He did read what the buildings did during the beginning and even said that the building generates creep and supply.
@@alphaprimus7794 there's a big difference between reading something and remembering it when rushing through creating content. The first mission barely has any macro, the second mission is a no build mission. It's no surprise he forgot a key feature when the feature has three unique characteristics important to the faction and he's breezing through to get on to the other missions.
Remember. He speedran this game. He doesn't often take the time because he has a focus on speed, not slowing down to learn new content.
AI is definitely fine for these small projects
It allows people with no budget to let their creativity speak
This is how AI voiceovers have to be used. Non-paid content (AI trained on the voices of people who are not paid for this) for non-profit content (mods that are free and not sold for money), no one's economic interests damaged. Big corpos, on the other hand, have to stay the f away from such things and find something else to cut costs (salary of the CEO for example)
never ethical, wont support it, your standards can only exist in fantasy land
@@AtticusKarpenter what about small indi titles? Take Stardew Valley for example. Single developer working on it for many years to get it done.
He surely couldn't afford 100.000 to hire a studio and actors to professionally record voices.
Reminds me a little of illegal music downloads and the argument "I can't afford it. So if I download it, nobody loses money since I wouldn't have bought it anyways."
Which is a statement I made myself back in the day. So maybe I'm biased.
I think, besides fan projects like this, AI voice acting can have legitimate artistic merit.
Imagine a sci-fi or cyberpunk horror movie. A character, played by an actor, is being stalked and replaced by an AI doppelganger of himself. The AI is modeled off the actor in question, "played" by an uncanny AI model.
nice, getting censored while speaking aginst it
I love how Grant figured out Zerg and Terans fight each other and decided it will be great to instantly build a new base in the middle of their fight path to fight both at once.
6:38 I’ll never get tired of hearing Grant wheezing from laughter, haha.
It's a hierarchy: Bad Actors > Good AI > Nothing > Bad AI. A real person will ALWAYS be preferable to AI, but like you said, hiring a voice actor for a mod is completely out of scope. AI is only bad when it's taking jobs from real people - a situation like this, where the modder was never going to hire someone to voice their mod, it's fine.
Literally, usually the default situation for most mods I've seen is to splice together voices or just not have it at all.
Not so much of an issue for your Morrowinds, ABSOLUTELY an issue for your fallout 4s
You’re 100% right
This is accurate. Although the difference between good AI and bad AI can be rough sometimes
While I’m a huge fan of the dev and even helped testing back when it’s development only started, I personally highly prefer to just not have voice acting at all then. Warcraft 3 community was completely fine all these years without AI, there was no reason to start using them because it just always sounds unnatural and not great, even if this is a “good ai”.
@@UncleMetallich well making the dialogue readable yet dynamic without proper voice acting is really hard apparently
I know that Coming of the Horde is an ancient campaign, but these challenges still persist and deterioate both gaming and viewing experiences
Besides, like half of the dub for some really old, but really really exceptional dubs for WC3 is now either dead or not in any shape to dub
Like there is only one guy (Kael'Thas) coming in from Softclub's dub for Reforged, practically all the main characters are voiced by dead (Arthas, Malfurion, Antonidas, Anubarak) or by really old people (literally half of Horde characters and units, Dmitryi Nazarov, for example, voiced Grunts, Grom, Blademasters (all of them), Cairne (in TFT), a paladin (in TFT) - Grom's part of the campaign is 90% Nazarov and it is hilarious; I believe that out of the cast the youngest was Kael'Thas and every other member is already a pensioner)
So if you want to have any of these characters or units in the campaign - good luck getting some voice actor to try their best to mimic them! Or just make up a new one and risk getting too much backlash for your campagin so it will not be a good experience
Besides, Grunt, Malfurion and Antonidas AIs sound non-robotic (if you give Silero the voice prompt to work with)
with the newest update even the ROFL Reforged Beta-eraly Release Archmage sounds human
I'm not a fan of the AI voice used. Since it's so heavily filtered, I think anyone saying the lines would sound as good.
It seems that the infested CC gives you a passive income judging by the mineral icon in the place where effects on the unit are shown
31:50 screaming at the screen when Grant hovers over the Viral Relay again showing that is Produces Supply, even though he said it earlier in the episode haha/
Probably the streamer tax. You have so much going through your head that you even forget about things you said yourself earlier when trying to juggle entertainment and gameplay.
I get why AI is being used here but I bet a lot of community members would lend their voices for free, which is what I would appreciate more and/or could still replace the AI in the future.
I have played mods with amateur voice actors (community members). Because they are not trained voice actors, may not have the full context, all use different mics and don't record in a studio, it just lacks quality, similar to AI, but different. So in theory yes, but actually, it doesn't make it better, it just makes it more "human produced". If you don't like AI because of the quality, this is not a better solution.
A couple years ago Kira Buckland outlined a number of resources where you can get free voice acting without ripping people off. I don't mind AI voice acting too much (when used with permission or for non-profit purposes) but I do want to highlight that there are free alternatives if you are willing to talk to people. Unfortunately the twitter thread is inaccessible because Elon doesn't want to pay for his service to properly function but just know that resources exist if you want to get an up and coming voice actor on board, and the expectation of using those resources is that the work will be unpaid for minor projects.
I just realized, the Conduit looks a lot like the Beheaded from Dead Cells, glowing eye included.
5:56 Borer on a insect-type thing gives me tyranid vibes.
9:21 As usual, any abilities on the marine is busted.
9:47 A non-timed Stukov infested wave, interchangable between melee and ranged, AND uses no supply is stupidly op, long cooldown be damned. No wonder it is based on the Nightmare mod.
16:51 Shame, I wanted to see if Jim kisses the Conduit and somehow gets himself assimilated.
16:54 Lmao.
22:30 Would've been funnier if Grant forgot about the timer entirely and died mid-reading.
28:12 Terrans, inferior. Endless, superior.
40:05 I love the fact that your ally gets the the nightmare AI buff. Also love the fact that they called dibs on the gold base that you want.
Grant, hope no one hounds you for this, but the healing tumor-thingy is also your supply.
I played it til the end of char, and I stopped because of the huge focus on infested. It got so bad for me that the game was lagging from the sheer amount of units. Not saying this mod is bad for it, but it definitely isn’t my style
@ If the game plays good enough, I might not mind the focus on infested. Lagging however, yeah, my laptop will die.
the robots don't have any human drivers because Kerrigan canonically didn't kill any umojans in this mission
41:02
Grant: Like, I'm not dying, right?
Marauder: I'm in a world of hurt!
Some thoughts on AI voices:
1. If it's a custom voice, created by the ai developer, not based on anyone's real voice - by all means, use that.
2. If someone like Tricia Helfer actually consents and gets paid to have an ai voice modeled after her, great, use that.
3. If it's a real person's voice copied without their consent, that should never be used in any situation. That's stealing something that belongs to the actor.
4. The best results will always come from real voice acting, even if it's amateur. Some modding communities, such as for Skyrim or Gothic, have had incredible results using fans as voice actors. One team even got dozens of professional voice actors from the base game for their gigantic mod. We have a great community here, and I can't wait to see the first mod to use real voice acting provided by fans.
I think i seen SC 2 mod with real voice acting already long time ago (but it was one voice and it was probably author himself) and i don't remember the name of the mod. Also custom voice is created from the recombining patterns of huge amount of real voices anyway. Also voice have to be protected as person's property (like in law recently passed in Russia), so it would be illegal to use AI replica of person's voice without consent, this is just hole in the law in most countries at this point
@@AtticusKarpenter Antioch Remastered and Antioch Chronicles 3: Thoughts in Chaos. Awesome voice acting.
I wouldn't call it stealing or anything, I personally don't care. Not like the voice is copyrightable, and copyright taken objectively is absurd anyways. But the AI being subpar and or invasive is distasteful.
you saying the cutscene will have jim kiss that conduit??? dear lord
Agreed with you about AI voices. They shouldn’t replace real people for real game projects, but using it to add immersion to goofy custom campaigns is fair enough.
Nral mindset
As an actual game dev, I agree with this. Despite having several missing voices in my game I am making, AI VAs are to be left the hell out of the product. But for stuff content that isn't sold, I'm more of "Eh, I guess I'll allow it, no major harm's being done here..."
Yeah it’s not like these roles would be paid anyway. It’s only an issue to me if a VA is losing an opportunity, and let’s be honest theyre not. Plus I don’t care about non-commercial use of AI frankly.
Besides, nothing beats a good old fashioned hand spliced voice line
Exactly that's why I use AI for my custom WC project, but fully support real game needs actual voice actors
"As we have seen, we have no supply building"
Grant, for the love of Amon, you literally have NOT seen that you actually do have one :D
I have to say, I love the idea of how future missions will go! Rather than completely replacing Kerrigan in the game, we're an *addition* to the story, meaning Naktul and other forces still exist, making it harder for the Endless to progress. That could be insanely cool if we see all 3 factions unifying to stop Grant from overtaking the entire sector
When Grant started saying "I haven't played Half Life 2 in..." how many of us would have just withered into dust if he'd said "in 20 years"? I know I would have, because I did just checking it's release date to make this joke.
Oh yeah! I was waiting so eagerly for you to play this! This is gonna be awesome Grant!! Have fun!
Enjoyed the video, and the mod looks like it will be a lot of fun.
These bigger overhaul mods really showcase the issues that can come when you are both trying to learn a bunch of new units and trying to keep the whole thing flowing without just standing there for a few minutes and reading over every single thing.
Grant, as someone who has played through kaldir, virals help with supply and some of the resources are endless both minerals and gas
16:50 The conduit is a better love interest than Kerrigan anyways
Who can say no to a gentlemen with such lovely... Eye
∞/10 would smash
Still not as good as classic StarCraft love story...
(Yes, i am talking to "I love you Sarge")
@@SeriousApache That was not a love story, that was a Love Epic, my friend
An issue i see with a faction like this is that you cant really go for a composition if you make its base unit. Your composition is the few units you make and everything the enemy has. Thats really powerful and fun for a mod but would fall apart in a fully fledged game because it has limited replayability.
Viral relays can also increase supply and does so more than the nests so you dont have to use nests for supply also Glory to the endless :)
I was looking so forward to this series :( rip before it even got started
Yes I would like to see more of this.
Thoughts on the AI voice acting: What's the guy supposed to do otherwise? Voice everything and become a sound designer? Sure, but no. It's fine. Stuff like this, people are gonna use AI. It's not like he's getting rich off this anyway.
Agreed, besides part of It was Big characters like Valerian, Kerrigan, Jim... If you voice It yourself or ask a voiceactor would sometimes still sound off, but you cant realistically ask a modder to contract the original voice actors of the characters so they fit.
@@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 100% true, if it was bad voice acting people would just mock the voice actors
@@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 Even asking the original voice actor it can be off. It sometimes happens in DLC, when voice actors have to come back to a role months to a year later.
I take issue with this sort of approach on the principle that even if he's not getting rich off of this project, setting a precedent that it's fine to do this is dangerous, as there are going to be people who find ways to make money - money that would otherwise have to be shared with the VAs. Even if all projects done with AI VA are always free, the authors of those projects can start getting donations or patreon followers and earn money, off of the attention that the AI had at least a part in getting.
What's the guy supposed to do otherwise? What everyone else without a budget for VA has always done, not have VA. Maybe once AI models become more regulated and stop constantly showing traces of stolen work my mind will change, but at the moment it feels like someone saying that it's ok to steal a car, because what was he supposed to do, build one himself? No, walk, like everyone else without a car.
And yes, I know that's an extreme analogy, but it gets my point across. As it stands, not only are most AI models out there trained on data that either is or should be protected by privacy or copyright laws but aren't because legislation on AI is glacially slow, they're not even required to bother with having their training data ethically sourced because there's no regulation on it yet.
@@araonthedrake4049 Most modders make 0 dollars off their projects. so you can't really use that as an argument in most cases.
Not having VA at all is a massive readability and immersion issue.
This smells like "yOu WoUlDn'T DoWnlOaD a CaR" goofiness.
You steal a car in real life, you are taking something away from someone else. You use a voice for a FREE fan project that at no point was ever going to make money, who's losing something here?
for the eater guy, I think your guys are the embraced.
Adding at 16 minutes in: there is a supply structure. One of the turret thingies on the nest. It was the third one along, next to the sunken colony. It had 3 charges for some reason.
Correction at end of video: it was the builder unit, not the nest.
The faction does seem pretty damn cool. I remember an old Flash game over on Armour Games where one of the AI factions was this plague that didn't destroy buildings, but rather infested them and took them over upon destruction.
As for the AI thing: I'm kinda okay with it in mods? It's not innately horrible, but the mixing or literal robotic tone can throw me off sometimes. Executor Nral does a decent job with his SC1 custom campaign AI voiceovers, but from time to time they do end up sounding stilted somewhat. It's not a deal breaker, but if the voice is REALLY bad I'd honestly prefer just plain text with no voiceover. So far, the Endless isn't bad - with all the filtering it sounds like someone having fun with layering effects to make a budget overmind and I honestly wouldn't have pegged it for AI if the mod maker wasn't forthright with it.
Everyone else, however, it's obvious. The cultist with the modulation post-infestation worked too.
they have a 30 second recharge for some reason. likely because they build instantly as well as spread creep so maybe for certain balance reasons they have a limit on how quickly you can build them?
@@robertmartens9072 + they spread creep and have a healing aura.
So 30 second recharge time seems pretty balanced.
It's an Overlord, a Creep Tumor, and a healing Zone all in one.
The armor flash game, was it obliterate everything?
I personally love that the Conduit sounds very much like the Overmind. I'm here for the Cutscene Jank and the obscene snowballing.
Looking forward to seeing more of this mod! Also, I'm personally fine with A.I voicing in these small fan-made projects. Where some dude that's just trying to fulfill a simple passion doesn't have the budget or whatnot to hire VAs, obviously. This is the next best thing, if used responsibly. Cringy bad A.I voicing is icky though. But what's in this mod doesn't sound bad for the most part.
Honestly, the Endless is one of, if not the best Starcraft 2 mods I've played. I love it a lot.
14:43 It's name is probably a reference to a novel called Доктор Живаго (Doctor Zhivago). Unfortunately I don't know what the novel is about.
Hotel?
Zhivago
@@runtergerutscht4401 novel, it's book. Zhivago is a second name of the main character.
I watched the move when I was a kid, 30 years ago. Let me see what I remember…
I believe it covered Russian history starting with czarist Russia, WW1, the revolution, and the early soviet era, as experienced by the titular Dr. Zhivago.
This looks really cool! Would love to see more of this series. :) I agree that AI voice acting is fine for a passion project such as this and to get your idea out there.
This seems like a really cool and ambitious mod, I definitely want to see more of this
I love the design of this race - this feels like primal zerg but done actually right
I actually really love this. This is the first Custom Campaign to actually earn the title "Custom Campaign". A lot of the CCM campaigns are just the same campaign with a gimmick, or a custom race. This one actually has a custom story, custom missions, custom models, even VA!
I always like watching Grant play the mod before I give it a go, so I can learn without being overwhelmed myself. And I wanted to give it a try, so I'd love to see more!
That was fun to watch. Keen to see more. It looks like a ton of work has gone into it
I think the AI voice depends. If It's someone's voice like Valerian, It would be nice to ask the voice actor if they are OK with their voice being used. I personally would find it uncomfortable if my voice was used without my knowledge. If it's not a person's voice I think it's fine.
It's amazing! I was looking to try and find out how to play this myself
1:00 - come on grant its like you don't know the internet at all.... But yes AI content is fine whenever its not replacing someone's actual income, so if its either no voices of AI, then AI is fine, but if its chosen when real voice actors (or artists in general) would have been paid without it, then there is the issues
I completely agree with both points. It's weird to ask for a civil conversation on the internet (although I hope it remains civilized).
AI voices for me are the same as using paint to create something. Clearly you lack the skill to do it properly, so you used a placeholder. I don't intend that as a dig. You can't expect a modder to be a voice actor as well.
I’ve definitely seen people go way further than that
I once saw an artist get banned from a competition for listening to ai music while drawing 😭
Spot on. If it is a tool helping nonprofit projects by obviously small creators create things they could not otherwise, then it seems like the ideal positive use case. If EA is using it so they can give the execs a 100k bonus, it is unethical.
ever since i played through this for myself i've been looking forward to watching you play as well
In SC1, when you first see the infested Command Center, I thought that the Zerg could infest all Terran buildings, and I was disappointed when I realized that only the Command Center could be infested. Then, in SC2, I believe that every Terran building has an infested version, but they only appear as part of the campaign, it’s never a mechanic that the Zerg actually use. This mod makes me very happy because it’s exactly what I thought the Zerg could do when they were first introduced so many years ago.
Although I understand both Grant's and the modmaker's view on the subject. However, I am still against the use of AI voices, even in fan projects. I have many reasons why. One of them being that these tools were not created in a vacuum. They were trained on already existing voices. Did those VA consent? Because in the end, the people who've created these tools want to make money out of it. "But this mod doesn't!" yes, but it gives them testing, it gives them acceptance, etc, etc. I won't write to you a whole ass essay about it. I wouldn't use AI voices, but I won't make too much of a fuss about it.
In the end, there is also the personal reason of the voices making me uneasy. I'd much rather read text (I know it would be shitty) or have shitty voice acting (which would most probably be mocked).
I don't like it and I wouldn't do it. But It is a free mod made out of passion/desire and I am not going to bitch about it. Well, not TOO much at least.
Edit: I am also a fan of "bad" and/or amateur voice acting so that also is a factor. You know, it injects a work with personality. Soul.
OMG! 33:00 The assimilated tanks walk around on crab legs! That's so adorable!
Its the same for infested siege tanks for Stukovs faction.
@@13g0man I've never played anything other than the campaigns, so I didn't know that! Still adorable!
@@kitsunoyumi If you get into the coop multiplayer missions each commander has variants of the main 3 factions. One terran commander uses armies of marines medics and maraurders, a 2nd uses cheap units with on death effects and mercenaries, a 3rd uses armies with 90% human waves 10% elite commandos.
I wanted to say that as well! Tentacles... crab legs, yes.
If you think that's adorable, play Stukov in Coop.
His Terran Buildings don't fly, they WALK!
Somehow faction mods are allways my favorite type of mods. I am happy to see more of it.
Definitely would love to see more of it, very interesting campaign.
I get the idea of the whole "unknowable elderitch horror" thing but this is like if Shadow the Hedgehog wrote some Lovecraft fanfic
This looks fascinating, like someone took Stukov's Coop faction, and expanded the infested idea into something else.
AI voice acting for fan mods is the best idea that ever happened
It is very like Grant to try taking a base he hasn’t cleared in between two enemy factions who send waves at each other
And somehow it all works out in the end! Makes me jealous
I remember Labrat, it gives Lunchbox Vietnam flashbacks whenever someone reports a bug on Labrat. I was involved early on in The Endless's development, but I am in no regards a dev of the mod. Lunchbox deserves his time in the spotlight, he worked hard on this, AI or not. (Granted, I'm using some AI in my mod as well.)
This feels like a 40K Chaos faction. I dig.
This mod is amazing.
I want to see it to completion personally.
Don't have any problems with the AI voices. And I love the series. Go ahead!
Now this is what new gen modding should be, I thought this mod was groundbreaking as I have never seen anything close to it, would love the series and anything like it :)
I'm hyped and want not only to see more but also play it myself
So it's Heart of the Swarm, but with even more Swarm? Cool!
Swarm^2 vs Dominion, Protoss and usual Swarm. Also i LOVE campaign mods where you fight the faction that you play in the original version of this campaign.
I'm looking forward to seeing more of this mod! And yeah, I have similar feelings about the AI voices. I certainly would love actual voice acting, whether it is good or bad, but as Grant said, that isn't really feasible for many mods like this. So, yeah. I think it's okay for projects like this. That's the best way to phrase it I think
I think AI voices work fine enough for solo or small-team modding projects. The voices can feel jarring to me, but I attribute this feeling to a few factors outside the developers' control. The biggest reason for me: I have watched and played so much Starcraft 2 content that hearing new voicelines in uncanny and/or unfiltered voices breaks my comfort and subverts my expectations.
Love this and the contingency contract and would love to see more
Nice reference to Doctor Zhivago, a novel written by russian Posternak if i recall the name correctly. Spilled some water when Grant reached the doctor :))
That Doctor Zhivago reference is obscure as hell.
I would love to see more of this! I love conversion mods!
Voices sounds surplisingly good for fan project!
This looks amazing, so more please!
Really cool faction! The fact that you get all sorts of wild versions of infested units is very cute indeed.
As for the voice acting, i'm mostly afraid it sets a poor precedent, as a convenient foot in the door for commercial products to skip out on actual voice acting. Appreciate being up front about ai use though.
I think another thing that makes the new voices less recognizable as AI is how filtered they are. AI still tends to have a certain quality to it but that masks it pretty well.
Hang on. With Kerrigan dead, the prophecy will end in Amon's victory! ...Unless the Endless defy that by being the victor first.
I want more of this, it's an amazing mod
I know this is just the first video, but I already can't wait for what glorious mess will Nightmare Reckoning be with this faction!
I also love the idea of gathering additional heroes as you go on. I get big WC3 vibes from this, especially with them gaining levels.
kerrigan is doing some silly facial expressions, i like it c:
I want to see more of this, just for the alternate universe lore! I dont know the first thing about playing modded SC2 (although I've played Mass Recall), so I like watching this type of content, so I dont have to struggle with getting the mods to work
I don't mind the, AI voice at all. It is an interesting Mod.
But my only Problem had been the Tutorial.
It could help better with the basics, some ideas for improvement.
Maybe replace the build Overlord part with build the supply increase building.
And if possible, add an check for teaching, the embracer mechanic with the first Zergling group.
P.s. A check for converting Buildings, might also help teach that mechanic.
When going to where the arch angel is i noticed its dead in the back so jim probably dipped after taking it out for you.
18:33 I love seeing PurpleMania's Hydramarine model. iirc it's not supposed to be that big.
I used it myself in my minigame/custom campaign, I named them Psyberlisks and they basically function as ground artillery mobs, like a Primal Zerg Ravasaur.
The custom campaign/minigame title is A.M.E. Shooter, it is planned to have 3 levels and should be finished and ready to be downloaded from SC2Mapster/Curseforge within 1-2 weeks from when I posted this comment.
I like how a lot of stuff is autocast - that's my jam :D
The endless, legally distinct flood.
TY @GiantGrantGames for the vod! Here's my opinion on the ai voices:
- Quality-wise, they are decent, and apparently get better later, which is cool
- Ethics-wise, I believe voice actors, because they're human, deserve more protections than companies, and this colors my opinion of voice gen AI use, and makes me think there are ethical and less ethical ways to train an AI and use its generated voicelines.
- If a voice gen ai is trained on the voice of a dead actor, an actor who has agreed to its voice being used, or if for some reason the actor doesn't have the rights to that voice and it's owned by the company, I'm cool with that, it feels on the level of splicing voicelines to make a funny meme.
- If the actor is alive, still owns the voice, and either wasn't asked or declined authorisation to train a generative voice AI on that voice, I think it's icky and cringe at best to use the ai generated voice lines in a free unpaid product like a mod. It feels to me on the level of republishing someone else's artwork/videos on your account without crediting them.
- The "still owns the voice" part is important for me even if I don't know if there is a clear legal definition of that. I think there is a difference between owning voicelines and owning a voice, that makes gen AI more touchy than voiceline splicing.
- I currently assume this mod has used "icky" generated voicelines. I don't blame the mod maker, I think it's still a new relatively unexplored technology, and it's a complicated mess we'd all prefer to just ignore because it's not used for profit. I'm okay with that, but I think we can do better as a community and as a society. And if I'm mistaken and the voicelines are "ethically-sourced", then all the better.
- Regardless of all that I think it's good/ethical to make clear that generative ai was used for a voice and it's great that both you and the mod maker did it.
- Also I think it's important, in order for both healthy discussions and adequate legislation about voice gen AI to appear, to have things made with it and to have these things made public.
- Finally, I don't want to watch videos about a mod that used ai generated voicelines obtained through the "icky" method I described. I'm okay with having the first series where voice gen AI is used to have a mod like that in order to incite healthy and polite discussions about the subject, but more than that would feel like encouragement or apathy for something I feel to be at best amoral.
Thanks again, have a great day!
AI honestly opens a whole new world of sc2 custom campaigns
I'm not that good at RTS so I really like seeing Grant take on these self-imposed challenges like not building any supply structures. It really shows how much better he is at this stuff!
AI voices for non-commercial use is fine to me but they were so bad they're silly. Makes it more difficult when non-AI lines are right next to it for the same character. Plus, line-splicing is much funnier. But, I don't have any complaints about the concept in itself, just found the tutorial mission a bad execution of it.
Amazing mod absolutely fun to watch
AI voice acting is acceptable in two cases:
- Your character is some kind of AI
- You are a modder/indie dev and you do your stuffs for free or for a very low price as a hobby.
Btw in the secon case, thank you _very_ much for your work.
I have been waiting for this I am soooooo excited I played this recently and it was so amazing