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Amazing oration. Just enough details before becoming stale. I started with the Hannibal videos and became hooked on ancient and medieval history. Thank you!
Wow the Magars really made a series of feigned retreats that were really all part of one large feigned retreat. A feigned retreat fractal. Ultimate horse archer tactics.
You could see it coming.. two words : horse archers feigned retreat has been implement in many pivotal battles preceding Lechfeld, if those 'heralds of the kings justice' were who they said they were they would have warned Louis to not repeat the mistakes of Decius at abritus or that of Licinius Crassus. Heck even the best most notable king of the franks and lombards was lulled into complacency by inactivity and then picked apart by a seemingly inferior force of basque tribes while his army was STRUNG out. The frankish lines weren't exactly strung out until we reach the penultimate but their leaders' mental sure as hell were. Its bad enough that they were glory hounds but Louis and the nobles made it even worse by assassinating those Magyar notables, basically dooming the people they were cheering for( they couldn't have known that but its so crazy to me since this is in a narrative format and how everything that could have gone wrong went wrong). assessing the magyar's capabilities would have given anyone reputable some apprehension, considering their mobility, the fact that they didnt/couldn't post scouts in the periphery throughout the whole advance left a huge gap of intelligence that is simply impermissible, In war you can't blunder twice or in succession.
@@googane7755 Problem is you had to build your entire civilization around that strategy, every man needs to be a rider with access to multiple horses which meant they had to live relative nomadic lifestyle and train from very young age not having time for anything else. Sure it's overpowered for what it does, but it's like dump statting all your stats except agility in a rpg.
@@Zyzyx442yet you forget they are also skilled with hand to hand combat if needed. There are basically no weakness to this type of unit. Ony thing you can do is plan and select terrain.
@@Zyzyx442one other con of that strategy is it allows way more mutiny and revolt, a simple military leader could command highly trained troops against the “king” of that nation very easily with the same tactics
24:39 Has to be one of the coolest and most climactic moments of all of your videos. I had kinda forgotten what happened in this battle and was wondering why in hell the Magyars were still fighting even after seemingly being completely depleted against a much larger army. Then I got the most surprised expression on my face and let out an audible gasp. Also, the way you cleverly pointed out how completely unaware the Germans were of their surroundings was amazing, it added to the whole feeling I had about the battle that something didn't seem right.
Thanks so much for the nice words. That suspense and uncertainty was kind of the goal, so I'm very pleased to see it didn't just make sense in my head :)
You would think that scouts would have been in place to run along the forests on both sides of the open battle ground to advance and discover if any surprises laid in store.
Who else watched the franks slowly progress deeper into the surrounding woods thinking “oh maybe they won’t be lead into a trap by light horse mounted barbarian archers this ti…..😐🤦🏻♂️” amazing video as always !
yea i was thinking the same thing horse achers are always used as a feinged retreat and ambush. it was foolish to even try to face them on the field without enough archers
I was thinking why didn't they have any reconnaissance or some type of scouts make sure overlooked the battlefield for an incoming army to relieve the magyars or worst case scenario an ambush at the end of the trailer with the woods came closer granite it was a 15 hour walk about 20 Miles still I can't believe the discipline of the magyars here and for the Franks to be so disciplined until the very end
I'm pretty sure the steppe nomads had one tactic and one tactic only. Refuse to engage in hand to hand, annoy the f*ck out of the other army, draw them out, kill the separated units. How many times do European armies need to see this? Ironically the Mamluks would later use this very strategy against the Mongols.
As a Hungarian I thank you so much for covering this part of history about the Magyar Raids into Western Europe since not many videos exist about it in such detail. I hope you will make more videos covering other Magyar Raids into Muslim Spain at the time (Y) :)
@@Wappai_ber True but we blended into European society so much that we pretty much abandoned that nomadic way of life and only practise it during cultural events like the Hungarian Kurultai or when people practise horse archery as a sport event. Like back when we were Nomads we raided like the Vikings raided except the Vikings were more Sea people raiding on the Coasts and Rivers of Europe using boats while us the Magyars raided on land on Horseback.
As a Magyar a would thank you for covering our history,you are incredible. Will you cover the following battles:Windr,Kerlés,South Buh and Boulgarophygon? Much appreciate you guys.
Horse archers really out here paving the way for drones. I was feeling the intesity of the Magyars struggle at the end. The stamina of it all is humbling. Also, i can't help but imagine the vast production chain of truly hand made implements of war. The crafters behind the lines, truing arrow shafts, shaping the bows and forging steel. A brutal and personal affair drenched in tradition and dedication. Like a deadly play. That vangaurd wore their exerted faces as a sign of defeat long enough to drive those doomed soldiers mad. the discipline to not over reach seems even applicable today.
for real, it really adds up to suspens. "Huh, if I remember right the germans won the battle of Lechfeld, and it was by having German heavy troops fighting it out on a narrow plain, maybe THIS is that battle and Historymarche are just explaining it in a better detail than previous videos I watched. Hey it looks like the Magyar attack are really petering out and if they are going to ambush the germans SURELY they would have done so like 10 minutes ago (in the video), why the magyars aren't ambushing the germans?" "It was in this moment the germans doesn't pay attention to their surroundings" " OHHHHHHHHHH"
Otto had the speer of destiny in this battle ;). And after that Hungarians became the oldest and long-time allied to the germans (and the romanians) as a guard against expanding muslims...which still applies today ;)
@@HistoryMarcheI really like the content you make. Looking forward each video! PS: Would you be able to make Battle of Hunayn of the Islamic conquest? Thanks!
That kind of battle must be the most infuriating thing ever lol, getting hails of arrows from horse riders for hours on end and not being able to get to them 😂
Indeed. And despite the fact it's obvious to us that it's a feigned retreat, this would be much harder to conclude on the ground, even today, without tech.
Wearing down the enemy mentally was pretty much a core part of this tactic. Once an army is subjected for this for a day they are bound to make mistakes even if they suspect a trap.
That was a good one! I feel like I've seen this kind of battle done so many times on historyoutube but the way you strung this out had me paying attention the entire time. Good job.
Amazing video as always. When hearing about such battles, where armies are lured into ambushes through feigned retreats you always wonder how they fell for it (especially consistently). But the use of an emotive narrative really brings a better understanding of the mentality of the soldiers and commanders on the day and how this could easily result in these situations.
Thank you for covering this battle. Fun fact , the germans did eventually manage to break into Hungary again and sieged the now well fortified Pozsony(Pressburg) in 1052 and got obliterated. Henrik the III. led five campaigns against Hungary.
We in Slovenija still call Magyar territory "Madžarska" or the (usually) male residents as "Madžar", and France as "Francija", pronouncing both similarly to how they're pronounced here.
Charging a bow rider army through a field coridor surrounded by forrest? Come on Louis, even a child could see that was a trap from a mile away. It kept me on my toes, i tought maybe this is not the case, but it was the perfect ambush plan. And then it came! Great video! Keep it up!
@@ariantes221 very true. also the reconnaissance of the hungarians was not on top of the situation during that battle, so the franks really did surprise them. one can not stress enough how important scouting is in warfare.
horrible feeling for sure, completely helpless, you either go forward and charge nothing, or you retreat with your morale in tatters while the horse archers pick you off. Doesnt matter if they think theres and ambush ahead, theres nothing to do, the horse archers control the entire flow of battle
The French priests and monks, because of the raids of the Magyars 🐎🏹 thought that the Magyars themselves were Yajuj and Majuj or the vanguard of Yajuj and Majuj army.. and they thought it was the end of time. This was mentioned by Shakib Arslan in his book "History of the Arab raids in France, Switzerland, Italy and the Mediterranean Islands", as we know the Arab raids on France were simultaneous with the Magyars raids
In addition to the Western mention of the "big franc" victories at Merseburg and Augsburg, here is one of a dozen Hungarian victories! But I bow my head to the rare honesty of the Western maker! With all due respect for the video that is faithful to historical facts!
Hahaha, nice jab. It can be funny how a simple typo error in the script can translate into an error in the narration, which then doesn't get noticed in production. The definition of "shit happens".
wrong. feigned retreat was not used during that battle. what resulted in the loss of that battle was the indecisiveness of the king after the initial skirmishes at the bridge. please go and watch historymarche's old video on it, it is pretty well made.
@@Baso-sama Well, it was not a feigned retreat during the battle. The vanguard of the Mongols was really defeated and had to retreat. It was the naivity, laziness or indicisiveness of the Hungarian command that decided to celebrate this victory, to consider the Mongol army repelled and to neglect the necessary alertness and preparations. But in a wider sense the Mongols used a mix between a retreat and a feigned retreat during their Hungarian campaign. The moved back east from the approaching big Hungarian army but also organized for a response on a battlefield of their choice. Then, at Mohi, they had gathered and finished their plans and led and finished the battle as they had planned.
@@varelion Look into it a little more. The battle of Muhi was decided by the fact that Subotaj found a ford on the Sajó river and surrounded the Hungarian army that was fighting face to face with the Mongols. Batu was already considering retreating due to the huge losses, Subotai arrived at the last moment.
I mean, even if you stand in formation you are just gonna get wither down slowly, such as happened to Crassus against Surena; and the light cavalry archers can just spend their arrows and retreat to rest and fight another day with minimal losses. Alsoif you are in open field, as Crassus was, you will eventually get surrounded.
This would have been a great battle to watch instead of the one in Spoils of War in GoT S7. Horse archers, soldiers getting used to the intervals of arrows, and pushing forward only to be trapped by the rest of the horse archers.
This battle has shades of Crassus's lost battle at Carrhae against the Parthians. Heavy infantry against light mounted archers, and the death by a thousand cuts.
Hello! An intresting information about hungarian war logistic in X. century (I wrote it in hungarian, my english is not so good, sorry. Maybe TH-cam can translate it): A magyar lovas hadosztályok főként a kitűnő felderítésnek és logisztikának köszönhették sikereiket. A szárított húst porrá zúzták, amiket apróbb zsákokban tartottak a nyeregre akasztva. Lényegében ezek voltak az első porlevesek. A harcos elkevert egy maréknyit egy kis vízzel, és egész napi kalóriához jutott. Az ellenséges felderítők ezeket a zsákokat figyelték leginkább. Megszámolták, hogy hány darab lóg a magyar lovas nyergében. Ebből nagyjából meg tudták mondani egy hadjárat tervezett időtartamát. Remélem, ezzel az aprósággal tudtam segíteni a külföldi érdeklődőknek!
What a wild episode at first I thought was gonna be a typical nomad horsemen victory and seeing the French discipline had me so excited and the ending broke my heart. What a great episode. FOR THE ALGORITHM
Probably like the Mongols, maybe the Huns also. Each rider has from 3-5 personal horses which he switches in and out of battle on with. By the time he has rotated his 5-th horse, the first one should have been rested enough.
How on earth did they not run out of arrows? They were shooting ALL DAY long. In 'Mount and Blade' the Mongol horse archers do this same lethal (some would call cheap) tactic but they only have a maximum of 100 arrows. This army seemed to have over 1000 arrows each which would be heavier than the horse could even carry!
It's no secret: on the occasion of the battles, they had on their shoulders the quiver with approx. 40 arrows, and on either side of the horse, there were between 6-8 spare quivers, each filled with 40 arrows (in addition, each fighter also had spare horse (minimum 2 for "fighters without rank, up to 6-8 horses for those with a higher rank) . The reserve horses were both for exchange of riders and various transports, as well as for the transport - on the way back - of the looted goods. (A quiver full of arrows weighed around 2.5 kg, but for a horse the extra 25 kg was not a weight)
New subscriber here. Thank you for this video, this has been an interesting watch to learn how war was conducted back then, I've learned something new today
Respectfully towards the map at the start, no such thing as kingdom of Asturias ever existed, the actual name given to it at the time was Galliciense Regnum. Kingdom of Asturias (and the rebranding to Leon, before the 1100's) is an invention of spanish historiografy in 1800's
Love your videos and the work you are putting into them. Would love to see also some little drawings of the armor or weapons the infantery or knights could have worn just for the emergen.
The actual military leaders of the Frankish army, Count Gozbert of Alamannia and Count Managolt of Alemannia were kxlled in the battle. That should have been mentioned in the video.
Youre videos are fantastic. You convey the sheer numbers these battles were fought with. It literally was just throwing men at each other in the hundreds and thousands all day....i cant imagine fighting....in full armor in mid july all day...................
How does it work every single time? I know Asian horse archer tactics was used so many times at some point ppl had to figure it out? How is it still effective since Roman Republic times up to 910?
Yeah, it was meant to be lamentation lol. Talk about a butterfly effect when a typo error in the script is overlooked in editing, then recorded in the voice over and again overlooked in editing, and later in post production.
@@HistoryMarche I'm a writer. I totally get it. Sometimes the brain even thinks the right word and the fingers key the wrong one. I just wanted to have a little fun with the error. Your content is great.
Quite the challenge to take on leading an army of men as a 17 y/o. After the first attack those men moved out on their own account. So staying put to endure and do nothing would have gone against everyone elses opinion while everyone is also more experienced. At the end of the day it was the defenses they built and the doctrine of the time that just wasn't up for the challenege the Magars presented. I don't know how far the arrows of the Magars could reach but to widen the defenses of the camp could have been a move. Or simply picking a better defensive position overall. Other than that the army of the time just didnt seem up for the challenege.
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Actually Hungarian Mongolian empire brother not Turkic
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Amazing oration. Just enough details before becoming stale. I started with the Hannibal videos and became hooked on ancient and medieval history. Thank you!
Wow the Magars really made a series of feigned retreats that were really all part of one large feigned retreat. A feigned retreat fractal. Ultimate horse archer tactics.
Some say the Magyars are still in a feigned retreat
@@matthewryan7775which part of a bigger feigned retreat
Cowardice at its finest
@@YamaXInot cowardice. trickery at its finest
as a Magyar I can confirm: we have been retreating for a 1000 years... am starting to worry that it is not feigned tho
What a rollercoaster of a battle
You could see it coming.. two words : horse archers feigned retreat has been implement in many pivotal battles preceding Lechfeld, if those 'heralds of the kings justice' were who they said they were they would have warned Louis to not repeat the mistakes of Decius at abritus or that of Licinius Crassus. Heck even the best most notable king of the franks and lombards was lulled into complacency by inactivity and then picked apart by a seemingly inferior force of basque tribes while his army was STRUNG out. The frankish lines weren't exactly strung out until we reach the penultimate but their leaders' mental sure as hell were. Its bad enough that they were glory hounds but Louis and the nobles made it even worse by assassinating those Magyar notables, basically dooming the people they were cheering for( they couldn't have known that but its so crazy to me since this is in a narrative format and how everything that could have gone wrong went wrong). assessing the magyar's capabilities would have given anyone reputable some apprehension, considering their mobility, the fact that they didnt/couldn't post scouts in the periphery throughout the whole advance left a huge gap of intelligence that is simply impermissible, In war you can't blunder twice or in succession.
What do Turkic think of these Magyar masterclass battle against german
@@Kimgangze The Magyars proved that they are the children of the great steppe by staging a great hunt for knights!
@@НиколайИванов-у8н you are Turkic???
@@Kimgangze Yes, the northern Turkic from Yakutia
Horse archer spam is THE most annoying enemy to fight.
Can't deny its effectiveness. Literally the most OP strategy for all of history before guns
@@googane7755 Problem is you had to build your entire civilization around that strategy, every man needs to be a rider with access to multiple horses which meant they had to live relative nomadic lifestyle and train from very young age not having time for anything else. Sure it's overpowered for what it does, but it's like dump statting all your stats except agility in a rpg.
@@Zyzyx442yet you forget they are also skilled with hand to hand combat if needed. There are basically no weakness to this type of unit. Ony thing you can do is plan and select terrain.
@@Zyzyx442one other con of that strategy is it allows way more mutiny and revolt, a simple military leader could command highly trained troops against the “king” of that nation very easily with the same tactics
They literally pulled that shi off
24:39 Has to be one of the coolest and most climactic moments of all of your videos. I had kinda forgotten what happened in this battle and was wondering why in hell the Magyars were still fighting even after seemingly being completely depleted against a much larger army. Then I got the most surprised expression on my face and let out an audible gasp. Also, the way you cleverly pointed out how completely unaware the Germans were of their surroundings was amazing, it added to the whole feeling I had about the battle that something didn't seem right.
Thanks so much for the nice words. That suspense and uncertainty was kind of the goal, so I'm very pleased to see it didn't just make sense in my head :)
@@HistoryMarchewhat do turkic think of these magyar masterclass battle against german
You would think that scouts would have been in place to run along the forests on both sides of the open battle ground to advance and discover if any surprises laid in store.
@@DwightStJohn-t7y I think the Germans were just way too confident. Of course, we have the power of hindsight.
@@HistoryMarche I second the OP; you really pulled off the narrative twist in this one: very well executed.
Who else watched the franks slowly progress deeper into the surrounding woods thinking “oh maybe they won’t be lead into a trap by light horse mounted barbarian archers this ti…..😐🤦🏻♂️” amazing video as always !
Me ,saddly
yea i was thinking the same thing horse achers are always used as a feinged retreat and ambush. it was foolish to even try to face them on the field without enough archers
What do Turkic think of these Magyar masterpiece battlet
I was thinking why didn't they have any reconnaissance or some type of scouts make sure overlooked the battlefield for an incoming army to relieve the magyars or worst case scenario an ambush at the end of the trailer with the woods came closer granite it was a 15 hour walk about 20 Miles still I can't believe the discipline of the magyars here and for the Franks to be so disciplined until the very end
I'm pretty sure the steppe nomads had one tactic and one tactic only.
Refuse to engage in hand to hand, annoy the f*ck out of the other army, draw them out, kill the separated units.
How many times do European armies need to see this?
Ironically the Mamluks would later use this very strategy against the Mongols.
"Sir, do we chase the mounted enemy archers with our slow moving infanty until we reach terrain that hasn't been scouted?"
"Yes..."
As a Hungarian I thank you so much for covering this part of history about the Magyar Raids into Western Europe since not many videos exist about it in such detail. I hope you will make more videos covering other Magyar Raids into Muslim Spain at the time (Y) :)
I'm working on the battle of Brenta 899.
@@HistoryMarche That's good to know Thanks a lot (Y)
you are nomads like chingizkhan
@@Wappai_ber True but we blended into European society so much that we pretty much abandoned that nomadic way of life and only practise it during cultural events like the Hungarian Kurultai or when people practise horse archery as a sport event.
Like back when we were Nomads we raided like the Vikings raided except the Vikings were more Sea people raiding on the Coasts and Rivers of Europe using boats while us the Magyars raided on land on Horseback.
What are Magyar? From where they came? Are they like the Hans nomads and Mongolian or tartar turkeies
As a Magyar a would thank you for covering our history,you are incredible.
Will you cover the following battles:Windr,Kerlés,South Buh and Boulgarophygon?
Much appreciate you guys.
I'm working on Brenta 899, but I will maybe do more.
Hi, who are Magyars in present day
@@Saramorgan9 the Magyars
Died.
Even than the magyars were only a part of a confederation of tribes. If dunny that hungarians dont know that.
@@Saramorgan9Still magyars in English they called Hungarians. 🇭🇺
Horse archers really out here paving the way for drones.
I was feeling the intesity of the Magyars struggle at the end. The stamina of it all is humbling. Also, i can't help but imagine the vast production chain of truly hand made implements of war. The crafters behind the lines, truing arrow shafts, shaping the bows and forging steel. A brutal and personal affair drenched in tradition and dedication. Like a deadly play. That vangaurd wore their exerted faces as a sign of defeat long enough to drive those doomed soldiers mad. the discipline to not over reach seems even applicable today.
This is the lesser-known Battle of Lechfeld. The one I knew about was with Otto I in 955 and I remembered the Germans winning that one.
I covered that one as well th-cam.com/video/1tDMes-ecnc/w-d-xo.html
The battel in 955 is better known in Hungary too.
for real, it really adds up to suspens. "Huh, if I remember right the germans won the battle of Lechfeld, and it was by having German heavy troops fighting it out on a narrow plain, maybe THIS is that battle and Historymarche are just explaining it in a better detail than previous videos I watched. Hey it looks like the Magyar attack are really petering out and if they are going to ambush the germans SURELY they would have done so like 10 minutes ago (in the video), why the magyars aren't ambushing the germans?" "It was in this moment the germans doesn't pay attention to their surroundings" " OHHHHHHHHHH"
Otto had the speer of destiny in this battle ;). And after that Hungarians became the oldest and long-time allied to the germans (and the romanians) as a guard against expanding muslims...which still applies today ;)
@@sumpunn you could say that Otto avenged this defeat
Louis the Child playing War Games with Dad's Army
lol!
😂😂😂
just like Alexander the Great , Mehmed the Concurer or Frieaderic the Great
@@HistoryMarcheI really like the content you make. Looking forward each video!
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And got spanked really hard!!!
Not knowing about this battle, I must say my jaw dropped when the trap was exposed, holy cow.
One thousand year down the line, we do exactly what Magyards did, but in Attila Total War game
Feigned retreat strategy OP, please nerf.
Dude you should checkout three kingdoms, Zhuge Liang's every battle is basically an ambush
when they left the camp i was like hmm they seem to be drawing you out between two treelines might be an ambush
Over a thousand years of using this strategy (not at this point). Everybody else needs to learn.
@@recoil53 your strategy is only good as your deception
@@RicegumNeverBrokeAgainreè
That kind of battle must be the most infuriating thing ever lol, getting hails of arrows from horse riders for hours on end and not being able to get to them 😂
Indeed. And despite the fact it's obvious to us that it's a feigned retreat, this would be much harder to conclude on the ground, even today, without tech.
Wearing down the enemy mentally was pretty much a core part of this tactic. Once an army is subjected for this for a day they are bound to make mistakes even if they suspect a trap.
Thats litteraly Carrhae, Medieval Edition
If you play mount & blade 2 you really feel the pain in the ass from fighting the Khuzait and to a certain degree Aserai.
@@Zyzyx442 yea fr😭
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Thanks man!
2 great channels.
Stunning story telling, even more impactful when you don't know the outcome of the battle in advance.
Thank you very much.
A Romanian watching the video. This is incredible.
Also, thanks History Marche!
Hey were are your valachia hope you learned proper history not the bulshit you see yous we’re not even on the map in the 800 hundreds
Excellent detail and presentation once again. The dramatic narroration makes me feel that I am actually there !!!
So well done. Thank you!!
That was a good one! I feel like I've seen this kind of battle done so many times on historyoutube but the way you strung this out had me paying attention the entire time.
Good job.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you from Hungary. I'm especially happy to see my hometown on Esztergom showing up in the video as the contemporary seat of power in Hungary :)
Always a great day when HistoryMarche uploads!
Thank you sir.
Amazing video as always. When hearing about such battles, where armies are lured into ambushes through feigned retreats you always wonder how they fell for it (especially consistently). But the use of an emotive narrative really brings a better understanding of the mentality of the soldiers and commanders on the day and how this could easily result in these situations.
Was hoping you'd cover this particular battle thanks
Thank you for covering this battle. Fun fact , the germans did eventually manage to break into Hungary again and sieged the now well fortified Pozsony(Pressburg) in 1052 and got obliterated. Henrik the III. led five campaigns against Hungary.
What do Turkic think of these masterclass battle against german
Henry multiple times defeated Hungarian armies so it wasnt so one sided
As a hungarian who watches ur videos i like them!
We in Slovenija still call Magyar territory "Madžarska" or the (usually) male residents as "Madžar", and France as "Francija", pronouncing both similarly to how they're pronounced here.
Some of your best narration for sure! The suspense kept me absolutely enthralled.
Always nice to see the lesser known battles of history. Incredible endurance from the magyar army. Nice narration. Keep it up!
24:45 If you know just a glimpse of nomad war tactics, you waited for this move since the battle started.
Charging a bow rider army through a field coridor surrounded by forrest? Come on Louis, even a child could see that was a trap from a mile away. It kept me on my toes, i tought maybe this is not the case, but it was the perfect ambush plan. And then it came! Great video! Keep it up!
He wasn't in control of me as a greenie! It is the provincial princes, counts, archbishops, bishops! But they, too, were found easy and failed!
But he *was* a child and he didn't see the trap!
Except... 45 years later, the very same tactic succeeded in the same place (though with a lot more heavy cavalry) against a larger Magyar army.
@@ariantes221 very true. also the reconnaissance of the hungarians was not on top of the situation during that battle, so the franks really did surprise them. one can not stress enough how important scouting is in warfare.
This whole battle is very similar to that battle that killed Crasus
That was intense, HistoryMarche!
Informative AND entertaining, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it! Great to see you here Big Sarge
Thanks for a nother great historical video!
horrible feeling for sure, completely helpless, you either go forward and charge nothing, or you retreat with your morale in tatters while the horse archers pick you off. Doesnt matter if they think theres and ambush ahead, theres nothing to do, the horse archers control the entire flow of battle
Epic video of a really overlooked part of European history. Great work, thank you a lot!
Best history channel
The French priests and monks, because of the raids of the Magyars 🐎🏹 thought that the Magyars themselves were Yajuj and Majuj or the vanguard of Yajuj and Majuj army.. and they thought it was the end of time. This was mentioned by Shakib Arslan in his book "History of the Arab raids in France, Switzerland, Italy and the Mediterranean Islands", as we know the Arab raids on France were simultaneous with the Magyars raids
Your videos bring history to life! I’ve shared with friends, and we’re all hooked. Keep going
LOVE YOUR CONTENT! THANKS FOR THIS ❤❤❤❤❤
In addition to the Western mention of the "big franc" victories at Merseburg and Augsburg, here is one of a dozen Hungarian victories! But I bow my head to the rare honesty of the Western maker! With all due respect for the video that is faithful to historical facts!
27:23 "nooo why won't these sheets of plastic stick togetherrrr"
Hahaha, nice jab. It can be funny how a simple typo error in the script can translate into an error in the narration, which then doesn't get noticed in production. The definition of "shit happens".
331 years later the Magyars themselves fell victim to a feigned retreat in the battle of Mohi with an army ten times bigger than that of the Germans.
wrong. feigned retreat was not used during that battle. what resulted in the loss of that battle was the indecisiveness of the king after the initial skirmishes at the bridge. please go and watch historymarche's old video on it, it is pretty well made.
@@Baso-sama Well, it was not a feigned retreat during the battle. The vanguard of the Mongols was really defeated and had to retreat.
It was the naivity, laziness or indicisiveness of the Hungarian command that decided to celebrate this victory, to consider the Mongol army repelled and to neglect the necessary alertness and preparations.
But in a wider sense the Mongols used a mix between a retreat and a feigned retreat during their Hungarian campaign. The moved back east from the approaching big Hungarian army but also organized for a response on a battlefield of their choice. Then, at Mohi, they had gathered and finished their plans and led and finished the battle as they had planned.
@@varelion Look into it a little more. The battle of Muhi was decided by the fact that Subotaj found a ford on the Sajó river and surrounded the Hungarian army that was fighting face to face with the Mongols. Batu was already considering retreating due to the huge losses, Subotai arrived at the last moment.
For once, even I was fooled by the feigned retreat.
Remember never wage land war in a Asia and never break formation when fighting horse archers.
I mean, even if you stand in formation you are just gonna get wither down slowly, such as happened to Crassus against Surena; and the light cavalry archers can just spend their arrows and retreat to rest and fight another day with minimal losses. Alsoif you are in open field, as Crassus was, you will eventually get surrounded.
I didn't know there was a first battle of Lechfeld. Thanks for filling me in on this :) Captivating video!
Neapolitan campaigns of Louis the Great
Is Also an extremely interesting part in the Magyar wars
This would have been a great battle to watch instead of the one in Spoils of War in GoT S7. Horse archers, soldiers getting used to the intervals of arrows, and pushing forward only to be trapped by the rest of the horse archers.
well this didnt end as I expected...it was going all so well for the franks...
Love your work! Suggestion: Ferndinand III the Saint of castile! One of the heroes of the reconquista
This battle has shades of Crassus's lost battle at Carrhae against the Parthians. Heavy infantry against light mounted archers, and the death by a thousand cuts.
Hello! An intresting information about hungarian war logistic in X. century (I wrote it in hungarian, my english is not so good, sorry. Maybe TH-cam can translate it):
A magyar lovas hadosztályok főként a kitűnő felderítésnek és logisztikának köszönhették sikereiket. A szárított húst porrá zúzták, amiket apróbb zsákokban tartottak a nyeregre akasztva. Lényegében ezek voltak az első porlevesek. A harcos elkevert egy maréknyit egy kis vízzel, és egész napi kalóriához jutott.
Az ellenséges felderítők ezeket a zsákokat figyelték leginkább. Megszámolták, hogy hány darab lóg a magyar lovas nyergében. Ebből nagyjából meg tudták mondani egy hadjárat tervezett időtartamát.
Remélem, ezzel az aprósággal tudtam segíteni a külföldi érdeklődőknek!
Amazing as always HM!
Thank you! Cheers! Great seeing you here KHK
Long time subscriber and member on Patreon. This is your best video yet. Amazing!
Great narration, as always. You kept the hope high while the changing map indicated the unavoidable.
Wow great narration. Awesome video
The feigned retreat got me too, although unlike the Frankish commanders I have watched many videos about this tactic.
Now this video had some really interesting twists n turns. Great video.
Glad you enjoyed! Great seeing you here Broken
@@HistoryMarche---Your welcome
It went on for so long, I was beginning to wonder if the ambush would even happen
This is what The History Channel used to make. Thank you sir
What a wild episode at first I thought was gonna be a typical nomad horsemen victory and seeing the French discipline had me so excited and the ending broke my heart. What a great episode. FOR THE ALGORITHM
How were those Magyar initial forces able to fight all day long? Those dudes were incredible.
Hardy lifestyle, light armor, and the confidence of superior cavalry tactics
@@MadMamluk88 how were their horses able to do that as well? That battle was from sun up till sundown.
@@dc1397 id imagen they did it like the greeks, fall back rest up a bit then atack. Its still exausting but it works
@@dc1397Steppe horse's are the answer.
Probably like the Mongols, maybe the Huns also. Each rider has from 3-5 personal horses which he switches in and out of battle on with. By the time he has rotated his 5-th horse, the first one should have been rested enough.
What a twist to the end of the battle! Good job I wasn't a Frankish general, as I didn't see it coming either! 🙂
How on earth did they not run out of arrows? They were shooting ALL DAY long.
In 'Mount and Blade' the Mongol horse archers do this same lethal (some would call cheap) tactic but they only have a maximum of 100 arrows.
This army seemed to have over 1000 arrows each which would be heavier than the horse could even carry!
It's no secret: on the occasion of the battles, they had on their shoulders the quiver with approx. 40 arrows, and on either side of the horse, there were between 6-8 spare quivers, each filled with 40 arrows (in addition, each fighter also had spare horse (minimum 2 for "fighters without rank, up to 6-8 horses for those with a higher rank) . The reserve horses were both for exchange of riders and various transports, as well as for the transport - on the way back - of the looted goods. (A quiver full of arrows weighed around 2.5 kg, but for a horse the extra 25 kg was not a weight)
New subscriber here. Thank you for this video, this has been an interesting watch to learn how war was conducted back then, I've learned something new today
Respectfully towards the map at the start, no such thing as kingdom of Asturias ever existed, the actual name given to it at the time was Galliciense Regnum. Kingdom of Asturias (and the rebranding to Leon, before the 1100's) is an invention of spanish historiografy in 1800's
I love Steppe history so much, lovely video.
Love your videos and the work you are putting into them.
Would love to see also some little drawings of the armor or weapons the infantery or knights could have worn just for the emergen.
24:45 I'm shocked. Shocked!
Well, not that shocked.
The actual military leaders of the Frankish army, Count Gozbert of Alamannia and Count Managolt of Alemannia were kxlled in the battle. That should have been mentioned in the video.
Thanks for the video
Wow what a great video, tragic and devastating
@@horus2780 hail Otto, the champion of God!
I'm sorry about your father. I hope he'll get better soon.
Had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
I swear historymarche had me in the first half, not gonna lie
Excellent explanation of the battle.
Youre videos are fantastic. You convey the sheer numbers these battles were fought with. It literally was just throwing men at each other in the hundreds and thousands all day....i cant imagine fighting....in full armor in mid july all day...................
GREAT storytelling!
Wow, what a beautiful documentary
Thank you very much.
Fantastic video as always.
باحال بود مرسیی با اینکه پارت بعدیو نمیزاری ولی تونستی بزن
How does it work every single time? I know Asian horse archer tactics was used so many times at some point ppl had to figure it out? How is it still effective since Roman Republic times up to 910?
The year was in fact known in Germany as: "Nein, oh, nein"!
Great video yall! Please consider making a video on the battle of covadonga or any reconquista battles in general!
Definitely will work on Cavadonga. Iconic battle.
Would love to know more about the following battles, like the Battle of "Riade" in 933 under Henry I.
Another great video ❤ Will you do a 1st Battle of Panipat or Battle of Khanwa next? 🙏
Fast horse archers were just too OP.
"Wails of lamination..." Um, perhaps wails of lamentation? Or were the Magyars encasing their foes in thin sheets of plastic?
Yeah, it was meant to be lamentation lol. Talk about a butterfly effect when a typo error in the script is overlooked in editing, then recorded in the voice over and again overlooked in editing, and later in post production.
@@HistoryMarche I'm a writer. I totally get it. Sometimes the brain even thinks the right word and the fingers key the wrong one. I just wanted to have a little fun with the error. Your content is great.
Quite the challenge to take on leading an army of men as a 17 y/o. After the first attack those men moved out on their own account. So staying put to endure and do nothing would have gone against everyone elses opinion while everyone is also more experienced.
At the end of the day it was the defenses they built and the doctrine of the time that just wasn't up for the challenege the Magars presented.
I don't know how far the arrows of the Magars could reach but to widen the defenses of the camp could have been a move. Or simply picking a better defensive position overall. Other than that the army of the time just didnt seem up for the challenege.
If there’s anything HistoryMarche has taught me it’s to never fall for the feigned retreat.
Holy sh*t this video is outstanding I can't believe the ending
I FUCKING LOVE YOU HISTORYMARCHE OMG
Leaving my comment as a sacrifice for the algorithm but in reality is because I love the channel.
Much obliged :)
Very informativee❤❤❤
AMAZING EDITING. Holy shit you actually made ME fall for the feigned retreat in 2024…
This battle has a history of several thousand years. Hungarians (Royal Scythians, Parthians, Huns)
Cheers to the algorithm and great history!
Thanks man, lovely to see you here.