When All Else Fails, Jund 'Em Out (Even in Vintage Cube) | Vintage Cube Draft | MTG

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  • My opponents in this Vintage Cube team draft expected me to go broken, but instead I went as fair as possible. Check out how Jund did in a world of power 9, and if I got to walk away a winner.
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  • @legochickenguy4938
    @legochickenguy4938 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Ashen Rider has really cornered the market in vintage cube of random card in the sideboard that no one ever plays

    • @Spaccaspecchi
      @Spaccaspecchi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@dsneinI'm very sure Sculler is still in, as Luis played it in one of his Lurrus decks (to great effect). I agree that Rider is way past its prime, though.

    • @LucksacGames
      @LucksacGames ปีที่แล้ว

      Need ashen rider for show and tell or eureka

    • @Spaccaspecchi
      @Spaccaspecchi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LucksacGames That's bait.

    • @Voidhawk42
      @Voidhawk42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's fine in reanimator or sneak attack, and can dismantle an opponent completely in recurring nightmare.

    • @cloaking111
      @cloaking111 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is the designated sixth best reanimator/sneak target. Which means that if someone is on reanimator they'll pass it for cantrips, removal or lands.

  • @TroublingPath
    @TroublingPath ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The 3X3 cubing is incredible. I love how skill testing it is, and as a bonus, I get LSV cube drafts way more often. 10/10

  • @Sugarloaf_Games
    @Sugarloaf_Games ปีที่แล้ว +37

    3v3 vintage cube is peak MTG content. Keep 'em coming!

    • @daniellundh7091
      @daniellundh7091 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love these cube vids, kinda prefer em to the regular cubes. The tactical elements gives it a little edge for me.

  • @dylanrinker8440
    @dylanrinker8440 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    It could be cool to get screenshots/decklists of your teammates decks as well, so we can see how they ended up. I'd enjoy seeing your perception of the draft signals versus the reality.

    • @SafeTea237
      @SafeTea237 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree! I think it'd be cool to see his reaction to his teammate's decks, even if it's just a brief little thing at the end

  • @Sicktoid
    @Sicktoid ปีที่แล้ว +19

    35:08 that's such an elegant way to describe the relationship between aggro, mid-range and control. The next time time I gotta teach MTG basics to someone, definitely gonna explain it like that.

    • @jeffe2267
      @jeffe2267 ปีที่แล้ว

      it reminds me a lot of Yomi levels.

    • @maximumkillmtg
      @maximumkillmtg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This concept got mentioned a lot during the Big Zoo Era (either Extended or Modern, more likely the latter). But is almost never mentioned in the current Snowbally Magic Era.

  • @spicysalmon8590
    @spicysalmon8590 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Drawing the orchish lumberjack was great comedic timing by mtgo

  • @roarmalf
    @roarmalf ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Every Vintage Cube video you post I will like and comment on. LSV Vintage Cube is the pinnacle of the internet. You cannot convince me that there is a better use for it. It's nice to have the "going off" vs. "pro tour" style of draft focus move slightly towards "pro tour" sometimes (not ALL the time, but sometimes).

    • @stephenglaeser7830
      @stephenglaeser7830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've often wondered how LSV would draft cube optimizing solely over winning, and these money drafts are a nice step in that direction

  • @lea8288
    @lea8288 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haha everytime you mentioned that lumberjack I was choking laughing!

  • @anthonyolszewski1715
    @anthonyolszewski1715 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definitely enjoying the 3v3 content, for the exact reasons you described. Really entertaining to see you change tactics and explain why each format is a bit different, and the variety and gameplay in these team matches has been awesome, not that I mind you forcing storm for the 873rd time... its fun every time!

  • @Daniel-rk8pd
    @Daniel-rk8pd ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love the team draft content just as much (or more) than regular vintage cube! Keep them coming =)

  • @ed1726
    @ed1726 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the drafts LSV. Main thing for me is that it gives a stronger narrative. You clearly are a little more committed to winning, plus knowing the people you are drafting with leads to some fun trolling.

  • @sanctuarygaming4984
    @sanctuarygaming4984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the team draft, it's been really cool to see hate drafting used and explained.

  • @haximilian
    @haximilian ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What better way to kick off the weekend than with an LSV vintage draft.

  • @y6le
    @y6le ปีที่แล้ว +1

    team drafts + storm boys is the perfect spread of cube videos, great stuff

  • @ThePhazedOut
    @ThePhazedOut ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's good that you conceded Match 3 game 1 without showing them the lumberjack tech.

  • @lindsayssbm
    @lindsayssbm ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is there any consideration to shrinking the size of the cube for team draft? With only 6 players, only half of the cards in a 540 cube are opened, which makes decks like Storm with very specific cards much harder to draft.

    • @Luckingsworth
      @Luckingsworth ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats good though. It is in fact very lame when you basically always see nearly every card and makes drafts feel same-y

  • @tituschalk
    @tituschalk ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely loving these team vintage cubes. Would love you to keep them coming if you can! :)

  • @IzzRei
    @IzzRei ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love these team vintage cube drafts, I wonder is of there content creators could be in future vids and then we can see the same draft from another perspective

    • @mr.joesterr5359
      @mr.joesterr5359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reading this feels like having a stroke

  • @admiralron
    @admiralron ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Team draft is so cool. Thanks for doing these videos!

  • @jimmylooper9367
    @jimmylooper9367 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been loving this mix of formats, but Vintage Cube is my favorite! Especially these team drafts

  • @deandouvikas
    @deandouvikas ปีที่แล้ว

    3v3 cubing might be the best mtg content out there

  • @IamJustFat
    @IamJustFat ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely love the 3v3 cubing! Keep em comin :D

  • @gustavoaffonso8942
    @gustavoaffonso8942 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving ALL videos, we really needed this Channel! Contrats and please keep It up 😊

  • @malorey1
    @malorey1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yup love watching ALL these 3 on 3s, keep them going, Ill keep watching them

  • @liquidxan6698
    @liquidxan6698 ปีที่แล้ว

    This concept of team drafting is very cool and I think LSV should create a team for draft magic sooner than later. By team I mean it’s like a sport and you draft against an opposing draft team. In draft magic the teams would play games against each other. Whichever team wins the most games wins. LSV would be such a great owner of a draft magic league

  • @aidenarmstrong2797
    @aidenarmstrong2797 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It seems like mono green is always open in these drafts. You should try mono green one day!

  • @TheJohtaja
    @TheJohtaja ปีที่แล้ว

    Great draft, awesome entertainment! 57:04 has to be my single most favourite moment though :D

    • @vitrehacek7455
      @vitrehacek7455 ปีที่แล้ว

      The moment he wanted draw swamp and instead drew the voidwalker was better

  • @forthedream3027
    @forthedream3027 ปีที่แล้ว

    3v3 cube is a treat to watch and even thou i enjoy you forcing storm, i think its cool to watch you draft very different decks!

  • @NeoSamurai13
    @NeoSamurai13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there somewhere to see the card list for this cube?

  • @ZephyrMSF
    @ZephyrMSF ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep ‘em coming for sure. Serve it up with a little BK salt sometimes too

  • @seanhutt4621
    @seanhutt4621 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love all forms of team draft
    Team cube is sweet
    Team LotR would also be cool as I've never seen that played by anyone yet
    Also time-and-a-half on the 3-0 good stuff

  • @CullingCrimson.
    @CullingCrimson. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    **orcish lumberjack sounds** 😂

  • @chrischase5647
    @chrischase5647 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know it would not have been the correct pick but part of me was hoping to see the Titan tron make it into the deck lol

  • @Schelome
    @Schelome ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been loving the team drafts for sure!

  • @joshdavis6830
    @joshdavis6830 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, I like the 3v3 content. Thumbs way up. Double up

  • @AnthonyBonney
    @AnthonyBonney ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these 3v3 cube videos!

  • @EnzoGarabatos
    @EnzoGarabatos ปีที่แล้ว

    I, for one, welcome our new 3v3 cube overlords.

  • @bricelory9534
    @bricelory9534 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing LSV pass a P1P2 Wheel feels...bizarre

  • @jong2563
    @jong2563 ปีที่แล้ว

    That green deck would have been nutz

  • @zacharysmith59
    @zacharysmith59 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So does that entire discord just all have full vintage cubes in their MTGO accounts?

    • @yogzi
      @yogzi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You only need one person with a loan account (something like Cardhoarder), then trade cards with others and return them to that person after draft.

    • @WaallyOne
      @WaallyOne ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most have been playing for a while though, so they own most of the cards

  • @thornthallid950
    @thornthallid950 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm very bad at powered cube, but I thought that one of the biggest mistakes you could make was building rock style good cards decks.
    Have those decks for more viable with the increased power of midrange creatures, or is there something about this deck specifically that makes it a good choice?

  • @ruudvanlaarhoven5776
    @ruudvanlaarhoven5776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phyrexian Revoker and Walking Ballista really would have helped with Delirium for Unholy Heat. Maybe not the right pick here, but probably more useful than Ashen Rider in your pool at that time '^^

  • @snappycaster
    @snappycaster ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is there a way to get into this cube discord without winning a pt? 😢

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      shoot me a DM on twitter!

    • @snappycaster
      @snappycaster ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LSVargas i did thanks!

  • @liquidxan6698
    @liquidxan6698 ปีที่แล้ว

    When in doubt jund em out the duke would approve

  • @tylerwood5019
    @tylerwood5019 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do I go about playing this when Vintage Cube isn't in season on MTGO? Do people host these cubes for other people to join?

  • @brothertobias
    @brothertobias ปีที่แล้ว

    LSV, you could draft vintage cube in a bar on proxies made out of coasters and I would still watch it.

  • @aronb.1273
    @aronb.1273 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does anyone know the list of cards removed and cards added LSV alluded to 👀?

    • @snappycaster
      @snappycaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Assuming its like whiteplum adventurer and do nothing cards like thoughtpicker wich.

    • @yogzi
      @yogzi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snappycaster It's definitely an older list than the one used in may for mtgo vintage cube.

  • @Yoshideking
    @Yoshideking ปีที่แล้ว

    i was crazy searching for my discord notification, then the second comes! ahahaha Nice discord!

  • @Skeed402
    @Skeed402 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would've jumped in that Monogreen when I saw a Craterhoof pick 4.

  • @zivkobabz
    @zivkobabz ปีที่แล้ว

    Really like the 3v3 cubes. Is it as good as the regular vintage cube? Different format both are great. Wouldn't mind either to show up again.

  • @DaveyDAKFAE
    @DaveyDAKFAE ปีที่แล้ว

    How can we join the discord to get some drafts of our own?

  • @meeskman7410
    @meeskman7410 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the 10 cards cut and added? Putting together a vintage cube now and I can def cut thought picker witch haha

  • @LucianDevine
    @LucianDevine ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm an avid lover of the mono green deck, but it would be impossible to read how open green would be from this seat, if even in this draft. GSZ and Finale are good, but Channel and/or Natural Order would have been better. We know they weren't opened and taken pack 1, because Craterhoof wheeled. Same with pack 2, because Ulamog wheeled. The same is also true pack 3, because Progenitus and the other Ulamog wheeled.

  • @amacuro
    @amacuro ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know what set the full art islands from the opponent are from?

  • @FoxTashikata
    @FoxTashikata ปีที่แล้ว

    How are you guys still doing Vintage Cube? Is it still up ?

  • @jacobwheeler9330
    @jacobwheeler9330 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there somewhere I can find this cube list?

  • @VPicozzo
    @VPicozzo ปีที่แล้ว

    Cube content is even better when there's no cube on mtgo

  • @williamhager7543
    @williamhager7543 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a list available for this cube?

  • @afisch3777
    @afisch3777 ปีที่แล้ว

    when in doubt, jund 'em out

  • @intko12
    @intko12 ปีที่แล้ว

    More Vintage Cube Please!

  • @timstreeter2392
    @timstreeter2392 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m sure Reid was pulling for you on this one.

  • @harbhub
    @harbhub ปีที่แล้ว

    If Leylia exiles a cycle land, can you cycle it?

  • @danrich2689
    @danrich2689 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vintage Cube is the best. Keep them rolling.

  • @john_cat
    @john_cat ปีที่แล้ว

    These 3v3 cubes are great.

  • @maxagnewalhagen1152
    @maxagnewalhagen1152 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like the teamdrafting :)

  • @kageotaku
    @kageotaku ปีที่แล้ว

    3x3 cube...A+ content.

  • @danielbielinski927
    @danielbielinski927 ปีที่แล้ว

    why did the rec sage get him?

  • @SkyshroudProtector
    @SkyshroudProtector ปีที่แล้ว

    54:45 you could have played the ignoble to make rabblemaster a 4/2. also previously could have done the same

  • @jarijansma2207
    @jarijansma2207 ปีที่แล้ว

    epic deck, cool format

  • @Tom-hm2iy
    @Tom-hm2iy ปีที่แล้ว

    LSV how am I supposed to sleep tonight without know why the mox jet destruction ruined their turn?

    • @Luckingsworth
      @Luckingsworth ปีที่แล้ว

      It was in the video. He explained it after that game ended.

  • @PhlegethonianStream
    @PhlegethonianStream ปีที่แล้ว

    Reid would be proud.

  • @MarylandBF
    @MarylandBF ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have taken Regrowth and Fatal Push personally

  • @MaximilianoEmanuel.
    @MaximilianoEmanuel. ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand how Luis can play with Draftmancer on MTGO?

  • @Luckingsworth
    @Luckingsworth ปีที่แล้ว

    The (non) Taiga&Bayou picks seemed very greedy.

  • @zZMazeZz
    @zZMazeZz ปีที่แล้ว

    Please try out the new Legacy Paradox Engine / One Ring deck, its right up your alley

  • @goldcobraarima9819
    @goldcobraarima9819 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luis you just have to draft a channel, fastbond & eurika deck once! Please do it for the memes!!

  • @Erik-yq7es
    @Erik-yq7es ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks
    Awesome vid
    Do not record desktop audio when you're using discord to organize...

  • @IfNedWereHere
    @IfNedWereHere ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best channel

  • @methebest900
    @methebest900 ปีที่แล้ว

    please more team cube videos!!

  • @rafaelmendes00
    @rafaelmendes00 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quality content!!

  • @Felixandian
    @Felixandian ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you mute discord when recording, my dumbass keeps looking at discord. Love the content!

  • @gregdavis6071
    @gregdavis6071 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skullclamp Ragavan lol

  • @13jrohrer
    @13jrohrer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ophiomancer, that's a cool card

  • @swagadone4072
    @swagadone4072 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this please keep it up.

  • @markvanvelzen7559
    @markvanvelzen7559 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the channel but please stop spoiling the draft in the thumbnail.

  • @shayansaadat4532
    @shayansaadat4532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    small correction but Boseiju is pronounced Bo-say-ju. ‘sei’ is broken into ‘se’ which has the same vowel sound as tech, sex, felt, etc, and ‘i’ is pronounced like ‘ee’ (leek, peek, etc.) Combining the sounds quickly leads to ‘sei’ sounding almost identical to ‘say’ :)

  • @MrDavidpopo
    @MrDavidpopo ปีที่แล้ว

    More please

  • @manhattanblockade8544
    @manhattanblockade8544 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should have titan typal

  • @glasseagle8368
    @glasseagle8368 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've got to mute Discord notifications

  • @MrTandtrollet
    @MrTandtrollet ปีที่แล้ว

    I must prefer a non-team 8-pod. But I dislike the fact that you play people from other pods on MTGO. I like the skill of playing around cards you've seen in the draft portion and not just have a T1 Sol Ring mirror or somehting.