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  • @LSVargas
    @LSVargas  ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Here's that Cube Cobra list I mentioned (adding it to the description too): cubecobra.com/cube/overview/7bad720e-9319-442c-8027-9fe1744a1aec

  • @perspiringspike
    @perspiringspike ปีที่แล้ว +248

    If you guys get a chance you should invite Caleb Gannon. He's my fav vintage cuber and I think he'd be interested in playing in a pod and the teaming dynamic

    • @BuffaloPicture
      @BuffaloPicture ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I second this!

    • @gragrim
      @gragrim ปีที่แล้ว +21

      BIG AGREE
      Dr Gannon Ftw

    • @KLSMTG
      @KLSMTG ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yesss

    • @mvdplas8145
      @mvdplas8145 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Great idea!

    • @seanhutt4621
      @seanhutt4621 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Honestly either Caleb D or G would be a good time

  • @servantofdiscord3586
    @servantofdiscord3586 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I've just recently realized that, probably due to LSV being my go to vintage cube guide in learning how to cube well, I think through my draft picks in LSVs voice.

    • @gayedemiray
      @gayedemiray ปีที่แล้ว

      lmaooo same

    • @roarmalf
      @roarmalf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @LSVargas should be getting royalties for that!

    • @Kadaver6
      @Kadaver6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh good, it’s not just me 😅

    • @jamesgreenwood1703
      @jamesgreenwood1703 ปีที่แล้ว

      Living in our heads rent free

  • @samhakel8394
    @samhakel8394 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Unless I am sorely mistaken you forgot to include the link to the cube in the description as you talked about in pack 1.

  • @Chickston
    @Chickston ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I like checking out the teammate's decks. Nice added context.

  • @anttimtolonen4741
    @anttimtolonen4741 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This has been said before, but I highly appreciate that LSV made his own channel. Edited MtG content from one of the GoATs is awesome. Adding team mate decks is indeed a very good addition. If you guys could invite my favourite, Reid Duke to play and perhaps even go through his draft it would be superb.
    Love it!

  • @GrigoryGladyshev
    @GrigoryGladyshev ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate you showing teammates' decks, that's great to grasp a wider context of these team drafts. Great content as always!

  • @Homesweethome-n9n
    @Homesweethome-n9n ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That spell pierce was just godly.

    • @averysmith8662
      @averysmith8662 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It totally changed the course of the game. If it hadn't been drawn and completely changed his plan, he would've gotten absolutely blown out by Dack!

    • @Homesweethome-n9n
      @Homesweethome-n9n ปีที่แล้ว

      @@averysmith8662 exactly

  • @gasasmk
    @gasasmk ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd love the link to the cube list. Couldn't find it on the description or the comments

  • @aimeduquet4879
    @aimeduquet4879 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    LSV rockin' the Duke Nukem look

  • @King0Kon
    @King0Kon ปีที่แล้ว

    @LSVargas Did you not play the forest intentionally at 1:01:56? For example to loot it away later? If I am not missing something, it would have been lethal even through Kroxa to bonfire for 9 and attack for the last point and that would make it worth playing it, wouldn't it?

  • @peterhiggs9755
    @peterhiggs9755 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It looks like LSV is cosplaying. 🤣 Loving the cubes out of cube season we've been getting. Glad to see LSV back making content in general.

    • @jakx2ob
      @jakx2ob ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cosplaying as Shrek?

    • @Hyrulesavior11
      @Hyrulesavior11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jakx2ob Barry Burton from Resident Evil 1 is my guess

    • @peterhiggs9755
      @peterhiggs9755 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't have a particular person in mind, just some kind of cyberpunk or sci fi character. It just looks like he put together a very deliberate but unusual look. (which I think looks good btw)

  • @ramondama5553
    @ramondama5553 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love these pod cube drafts pls keep them comming

  • @alexhunt1775
    @alexhunt1775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really been loving the draft content. I like to think my draft game has gotten a lot better since I've started watching!

  • @Zosh_
    @Zosh_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should probably check out Caleb Gannon MTG! It would be fun to see him!

  • @FlamingOverlord
    @FlamingOverlord ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a way this can be zoomed in at all to make it easier to read the cards? Or at least the names. Love these cube drafts theyre so cool its just hard to read names of cards in packs.

  • @benlucas3151
    @benlucas3151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A card I want to see in more cubes is Staff of the Storyteller. It's a very strong card and it's both fun to play with and creates new decisions in the draft by caring about something that other cards don't specifically care about but that a lot of strong cards in cubes do already support.

  • @sashaanne703
    @sashaanne703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With Sol Ring and Ancient Tomb, was there any argument to taking Wurmcoil Engine?

  • @jrjamesson
    @jrjamesson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video and draft as always! Question about match 1 game 2: why did you say mortars did pretty much nothing against the opponent? I get that they would draw 2 off the skullclamp, but you are still taking two threats off the board and potentially running them out of threats. Seems like it was still an out for you to recover with grist + wall of roots next turn.

    • @TheEternalVortex42
      @TheEternalVortex42 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't kill the creature with the sword and you will just die to it instantly.

  • @JeffBradleyWrites
    @JeffBradleyWrites ปีที่แล้ว

    Cube content has been fantastic, especially the team drafts. Would love to even see non-MTGO cubes if your playgroup is into it.

  • @blade6321
    @blade6321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovin it! Honestly my favourite part of these team cube drafts is seeing sandydog's deck lol. Will it be mono white again?!

  • @Zosh_
    @Zosh_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are team draft? I'm not sure I understand

  • @KennoxGaming
    @KennoxGaming ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can you explain what is different between a team draft and a 6 player draft? what does the team aspect change during draft?

    • @chrisstanley2051
      @chrisstanley2051 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's a lot more strategy in what you take and pass. Especially if you are just drafting on mtgo, you aren't going to play against those same people.

    • @Ffancrzy
      @Ffancrzy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yea, so in a team draft you're seated so that the people immediately to your left and right are on the other team. Additionally as a team you play a total of 9 Best of 3 matches, Each player plays each other player on the enemy team.
      This means, unlike a normal draft, hate drafting is much higher value than it is in a normal 8 person draft (and exponentially higher than a MTGO league or Arena draft where you wont even play vs people in your pod). This is because A) you're 100% directly passing to an enemy, someone that you'll play guaranteed, AND your teammates will play. B) You dont need 3 wins, you just need more wins as a team. That means if you went 1-2 and the person to your left went 0-3, you've had a positive impact on your team.

    • @KennoxGaming
      @KennoxGaming ปีที่แล้ว

      ty for the explanations

  • @Homesweethome-n9n
    @Homesweethome-n9n ปีที่แล้ว

    How good an idea is this so you can cube even when cube isn't on mtgo! Wow

  • @casparash5370
    @casparash5370 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I and i think many others would love a guest apperance from Gaby on a draft if that is ever somthing that could happen. Miss watching her streams!!

  • @gawrysiak100
    @gawrysiak100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Turns out I can't have ice cream every day. Thanks Louise for making your TH-cam channel about time homeboy.

  • @bishop5116
    @bishop5116 ปีที่แล้ว

    Today, the V in LSV stands not only for victory, but also for vest.
    Cube on brethren.

  • @MarylandBF
    @MarylandBF ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really want to see this cube list!

  • @liquidxan6698
    @liquidxan6698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely love this it’s literally the best

  • @paulmanseau9231
    @paulmanseau9231 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    43:05 isn't overloaded mortars the play?

    • @rekenner
      @rekenner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It doesn't kill the DRC, so it's still not good enough

    • @paulmanseau9231
      @paulmanseau9231 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rekennerthanks, I didn't see that he had delirium. Watching on a phone.

  • @dirtiestbomb1715
    @dirtiestbomb1715 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Caleb Gannon please!!

  • @spyral71
    @spyral71 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta admit...I'd have jumped on R/G the minute Ren and Six wheeled...LOL
    Also...I wonder if there's a deck where Bowmasters + Wheel effects is just GG in this cube. . .LOL

  • @jantmoen
    @jantmoen ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great entertainment. Thank you!

  • @Jrip3630
    @Jrip3630 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a way to join the discord server? Or is there a public cube drafting server anybody knows about?

  • @douglaskissack121
    @douglaskissack121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    P2P2, is Char not playable there in a UR tempo shell? Grist is okay for spec/hate I guess, but Char is still instant speed removal and good against creature decks.

    • @douglaskissack121
      @douglaskissack121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guess I should have waited for the wheel. 😅

    • @Anusien
      @Anusien ปีที่แล้ว

      Three mana is a lot of mana

  • @jakx2ob
    @jakx2ob ปีที่แล้ว

    Grist did some heavy lifting here

    • @roarmalf
      @roarmalf ปีที่แล้ว

      every time he passed a G/B land and especially the demonic tutor and said "I don't think we can play black here" I wanted to yell at him to just take it and play Grist, ended up he needed playables, so he was probably right

  • @TheMassimoSerafino
    @TheMassimoSerafino ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @1:02:10 if you played the land you would have bonfire for the win at x=9

    • @001010011100101110
      @001010011100101110 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep! Again at 1:08:14 if he played the land and opponent had a way to deal with grist, he couldve top-decked bonfire for lethal
      Gotta play those lands in a bonfire deck!!!

  • @cowgirlqueen2636
    @cowgirlqueen2636 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once you got that Minsk and boo this deck went from meh to insane

  • @mattdespard6576
    @mattdespard6576 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprised at the lack of consideration for Koma as a high end on the wheel

  • @austinduke8876
    @austinduke8876 ปีที่แล้ว

    The white Remand still blows my mind.

  • @zachhannah8927
    @zachhannah8927 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cube Rules Everything Around Me

  • @rockdeworld
    @rockdeworld ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought they said the perfect curve was Thoughtseize > Bitterblossom > Jace Beleren > Mistbind Clique XD

  • @nicolasbanello4201
    @nicolasbanello4201 ปีที่แล้ว

    As some wise man says: "you Char to the face and knock the top of your deck"

  • @LucianDevine
    @LucianDevine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We didn't end up using it, but I really like Summoning Trap in Vintage Cube. Blue naturally has so many counters, and there is of course Mana Tithe, and with green being in such a bad place, it might help put green in at least a slightly better place. They might have to play another win con in the deck to give them a better chance of hitting on the trap, but with how few green drafters there are right now, I don't see that being too big of a problem. Thoughts?

  • @MarkAvo
    @MarkAvo ปีที่แล้ว

    Match one took some luck but LSV is “never lucky”. Haha

  • @ElusiveOtter
    @ElusiveOtter ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do I always hear Acidic Slime as “Hasidic Slime” and imagine it wearing payos?

  • @samuelchan5895
    @samuelchan5895 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone have the link to this cube list?

  • @pauldaulby260
    @pauldaulby260 ปีที่แล้ว

    makes me sad when you pass memory jar in decks that are set up to use it relatively well.
    I feel like the 2nd pack could have set up a nice big artifact mana deck. but maybe its too weak a choice without early payoffs.
    not that i thing jar is the right choice, i'm just sad that its not

  • @Shemhazai7
    @Shemhazai7 ปีที่แล้ว

    SUN'S OUT! GUNS OUT!

  • @circevazquezsoldano1745
    @circevazquezsoldano1745 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I imagine there is a pretty good reason why you can't talk to your teammates while drafting, but have you ever tryed it?
    It could be really fun to watch some broken 4d chess hate-drafting strategies and broken decks!
    Also, im really liking these types of team drafting... I feel like MTGO leagues take away some of the fun of cube/drafting

    • @mdoughty
      @mdoughty ปีที่แล้ว

      second this! comms are the best content

  • @iPLAYgb
    @iPLAYgb ปีที่แล้ว

    more cube = more happy

  • @swiftdragonrider
    @swiftdragonrider ปีที่แล้ว

    I am sad it is only one a day

  • @notice9218
    @notice9218 ปีที่แล้ว

    This pool of drafters really hates green, just cut ramp from the cube and it'd be more interesting 🤣

    • @Simon-gi8mz
      @Simon-gi8mz ปีที่แล้ว

      You stole my comment! Yeah honestly green gets no love, maybe make it a bit more powerful int he cube so it actually gets considered once in a while?

  • @donavonmaddasion341
    @donavonmaddasion341 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grist over dragon rage channeler?!?

    • @rekenner
      @rekenner ปีที่แล้ว

      Delirium is way harder to get in Cube, you can't guarantee the density of things that will surveil, and he didn't have any GY synergy at the point he made the pick.
      It's really not that crazy.

  • @harkelin
    @harkelin ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh yes!

  • @irifhir
    @irifhir ปีที่แล้ว

    Engagement

  • @maroeatsbabies
    @maroeatsbabies ปีที่แล้ว

    Getting real strong Danny McBride vibes from LSV’s look am I right?

  • @senecamorin5703
    @senecamorin5703 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    41 card special

  • @chalkchalkson5639
    @chalkchalkson5639 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:39 isn't there an argument for picking incinerate wheeling mutavault? People likely assume that sandydog is drafting aggro so gavin is more likely to pass you good R aggro cards, you know sandy isn't in that archetype so you have good wheeling opportunities and sol ring and ancient tomb are crazy good in mono R.

  • @radivel1
    @radivel1 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Luis Scott-Vargas
    Just an FYI: your channel volume exceeds that of the volume of pretty much every other channel by a fair margin.

    • @Luckingsworth
      @Luckingsworth ปีที่แล้ว

      Not at all. Very reasonable sound level on my end.

  • @CullingCrimson.
    @CullingCrimson. ปีที่แล้ว

    The One Ring is dirty nasty busto bonkers

  • @Euquila
    @Euquila ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you incinerated them and played the forest you could have bonfired for the win no?

    • @melonwatcher
      @melonwatcher ปีที่แล้ว

      Opponent is going to double Kroxa. If LSV played the Forest and Incinerated before Kroxa entered the battlefield, he'd have taken 6 and then the dragon would kill him. If he'd played the forest and discarded the Incinerate, he's short 1 damage on the Bonfire. If he'd kept both in hand, he'd discard both and be 2 short.

    • @cloaking111
      @cloaking111 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@melonwatcherbut bonfire would still get rid of both the kroxa and the dragon right? And Kroxa can't escape again. Unless I missed something that game wasn't over yet.