You could use Radeon Super Resolution if you need to lower the resolution of the game. Upscales it to your monitor while still having the performance of your set resolution. Of course the image quality of the HUD won't be as great but if you're more focused on performance, RSR on these lower end RDNA cards are the way to go
@@mat_max assuming that they can be found at non-scalper prices, right now it is the cheapest GPU is the best GPU. I don't remember the 750ti being low profile so a 6400 upgrade isn't exactly necessary.
In my region they're already going for $265! Even the RX 6500 XT is cheaper , they're about $140 in this side of the world. So I wouldn't recommend this card if it's over $180 unless you really want to make a SFF build.
Here is around 245USD (with VAT). Shame... But this is just the first few day from the start. Probably it will going down. Nobody should by GPU over MSRP. I do not see shortage on the market. Even second hand market seller are advertising their cards for long periods. Simply just nobody want to decrease the price. Buyers should be dealing aggressive.
@@maestrohun exactly the buyers in my region atleast, are only buying cards from gamers , GTX 1060s here are cheaper than 1030s. Their refusing to buy from Scalpers and miners. Funnily enough there's one Scalper I know in my area on Facebook marketplace Who bought 50 RX 6500 XTs , overpriced them to nearly 200% MSRP expecting desperate gamers to pounce. However no one has bought any of them and the ad is still up almost 5 months later , in fact he dropped the prices but people are refusing to buy them still, so he's at a loss. Karma is deadly man😅👌🏽
@@THEANIMALGUY a lot of retailers in 3rd world countries like mine are almost , if not , worse than Scalpers in terms of pricing, the sad thing is that the employees are getting payed less.
This is exciting. I’ve had a SFF Optiplex 3020 for a living room gaming PC that can only fit a single slot card and I had hoped there would be a better option than a GT 1030 eventually
Much more powerful, plus has 4 GB of RAM instead of 2 GB. For example, with the GT 1030 (I don’t own one currently) I saw a video with God Of War where it was getting like 20 FPS on 1080p low settings. I picked up the Sapphire Pulse RX 6400 and I seem to be able to play pretty much anything on it at 1080p just have to turn down some settings on certain more depending games.
@@arcadeslum5882 There are variations of the GT 1030. The best one is the one w/ GDDR5 RAM and an active cooler (fan). The passive cooler, non-fan ones are terrible and of course GDDR4 is a step down. The crappy FPS you see are guaranteed from the shit versions. I have the best version and it runs well and really quiet. This RX 6400 is nice though! Looks like a GTX 1650 low profile but half the market costs. Will upgrade 😀
I was the same, grew tired of waiting years and no longer have that system unfortunately, would have loved one of these to breath some new life into it.
I have actually REALLY missed the single slot low-profile GPUs. They have been absent from the market for I don't know how long, unless you settled for something particularly low-end like the Geforce 710. I have a lovely little silverstone ITX case laying around which only supports a single slot GPU. Not all computers need to be gaming rigs. This one is small but would be great as a Linux desktop. I'm thinking a performance beast with focus on professional tasks. Virtualization, code compile and CPU encoding of videos (Ryzen 5950X, 64GB RAM). This GPU would be the perfect companion for such a setting. And AMD drivers in Linux are great!
@@tilapiadave3234 I guess it's quite different depending on the market. Here in northern Europe, we don't have access to a lot of odd-, or specilized brands, We can mostly only buy the big ones like msi, asus, gigabyte, Which usually are full height and 2+ slots. MSI did release low-profile cards, but I haven't seen single slot cards since 10 years back. unless it's a GT710
@@PixelShade It is strange that different markets have different pricing / availability. At the moment it seems Australia has a bargain in the rx 6600xt , I keep reading about Americans paying US $500 for it ,, here it is AUD $549 which is US $390 ,,, maybe I should start posting them to the USA ? LMAO
WTF you can afford over priced cpu and ram but cant spend abit more on a gpu that is 9 years old ... a high end phone 2-5 years from now could be 2-3x more powerful then this card... a mf phone...
@@simlife445 for professional application the 5950X makes sense. Creating a virtualized network development environment require tons of cores and RAM. You only need the GPU to make the computer run. And in my case I just want the computer to be small, tucked away, without even being connected to a screen. With that being said the RX6400 has far superior performance to flagship phones. I don't know what you get your "9 years" from. It runs Cyberpunk at 1080p Medium with an average of 37fps. Let me know when flagship phones can do that. The Steam Deck is an absolute monster GPU-wise, greatly outpacing any high-end phone. At the same settings in Cyberpunk you run the game at 18fps, similar results to a GTX1050. With other words, the 6400 IS a powerful GPU with 2x the compute of an GTX1050Ti, you just seem to have a very weird perception of performance my friend. And ultimately, my comment is on low profile single-slot primarily. I can't magically use a phone as a GPU for my virtualized setup, 🤣 And even if I could, it would be a worse experience, and a much more expensive solution.
The PCie 4.0 vs 3.0 are only relevant for the new AMD 6400 and 6500 cards. The reason behind that is because they were developed as mobile GPU's. In new laptops of course you put in 4.0 PCIe lanes, however, the more you put in, the more energy they drain (even when idling). In the laptop only 4 PCIe 4.0 lanes are used. Most video cards in a desktop configuration use the full 16 PCIe lanes. The top end cards do not come close to saturating that bandwidth but if you choke it down to 4 lanes...
Really nice review. Refreshing to see for a budget card to get some well deserved praise. Snobbery of some other PC review channels is a bit too much sometimes. This is a perfect little budget GPU, that can let you experience all the games on a budget, and the little efficient GPU does it quite well.
Yes, some other channels are sabotaging performance by running at too high quality settings and going look at this when really just turning it down a bit results in 60fps!
@@davidg2731 Dude I totally agree! Other channels are always putting down low end cards when all we realistically need is a card that can play the games smoothly what more can you ask for. LTT is a capital offender of this, they say buy a older card like a 1080 for the same price but its faster I mean smart buying is always a factory but those cards are on the way out and you will have more driver support for cards like this.
Glad I saw this today. Been trying to make a sff build for my sister as a surprise for her for work. Been keeping the price down using some older and spare parts I have around but I needed a LP card and hadn't been able to find one till I happened on this video.
It just hit me that back in 2011, as a 13y/o who just got his first own PC, I bought an HD 6450 1GB card for around €60. And that this RX6400 is supposed to be in that same category of cards.
@@erickalvarez6486 so when you watch video on TH-cam or Nyetflix the GPU took over the video playback processing, instead of CPU. Because if CPU do all the work, it will actually draw more power/Electricity
@@ClayWheeler interesting but my tv has netflix and youtube so I'm not using it for that plus I will either game of watch videos, never both so I guess I'm okay (?)
This graphic card is definitely a nice stopgap for those who still want to game immediately while waiting for the price of high-end graphics card to go down to affordable level. Also I really missed single slot graphics card.
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ I will give you an award for best gpu review. Straight to the point and no BS. You nailed the details we wanted to hear and it was all informative. Seriously, good job on this!
I bought an RX 6500xt a few months ago for $270. At the time, the RX6600 and the GTX 1650 were around $500. I couldn't afford that. The main reason I got it is that I've had my GTX 1060 for quite a few years now and didn't want to be caught empty handed if it was to die on me. The other reason is I wanted to take advantage of my R7 2700 and have a vm with gpu pass through. Despite having 2gb less, the RX 6500xt does just as good as the 1060 and even better at some games in Linux. People online gave me shit for getting the 6500xt. I don't care. When you only have a certain amount to spend and the prices are they way they are, you do the best you can. I only play at 1080p and the card is great at that.
I would see a full undervolted PC how efficient could be. (Undervolted 4C/8T CPU, UV GPU with at least 80+ Gold or better PSU) I suppose it could be ~70-85Watt from the wall during 60/75fps capped gaming. And Idle/browsing could be maybe ~30-35Watt? That could be an awesome modern and efficient PC.
Not really related to the video but I like the theme of the GTA5 in every test video you put out, every time it's the guy in fancy suit coming out of a fancy car with the homing launcher wreaking the surroundings. Never gets old! 😂
would love to see that 1650 comparison, this one could be another gpu thats not scalper mined and can be used on low profile/office setups, also how much power does this and 1650 draw in games? some non-super 1650 OC editions have a 6pin so that one is definitely bordering the pcie 75w limit
Prices are on the way down. A garbage card like this will quickly become bargain bin. I like low profile single slot cards, but with no HS encoders in 2022? No thanks. Better to just get a CPU with onboard graphics.
Perfect card to make an inexpensive gaming machine for your youngsters. I have to hand it to the programmers of these games. They seem to be optimizing them to work great with lower end GPS. Seeing these FPS rating, I'm impressed. Love to see how this card plays DOOM and Subnautica.
I would love to see how this card performs vs the gt-1030 and 1050 in the sff dell optiplex i-5 pc. I have 2 of the dell’s I use for gaming and emulation.
@@anand.suralkar apparently after other videos you need a 4th gen i5 or better to take advantage of this card. It doesn’t perform well in the 3rd gen or under
Great video! I’ve been thinking about getting a used computer an setting up an emulation machine. I think this card may be just what I’m looking for! Thanks for all your vids! Ur the king of emulation machines! Luv the channel!
I hope they mass produce these units, there are alot of people still holding on to the 1050Ti/1650 cards and this is a no brainer as we wait for the midrange cards to finally hit MSRP.
I'm hoping that this motivates Nvidia to come out with an LP 3040, as those pcie 4x4 lanes really make this a non option for older sff pcs, even the ones from 2018.
go for an nvidia t600 or t1000 instead... those sips power from the pcie slot and have video encoder so you can easily stream your desktop 4k60hz while gaming performance is equal to gtx 1650.
Hi This Is my case, i have one old Optiplex...why This Is not viable? Is Because they use PCIe 3.0 and 4x4 lanes would hurt the performance todo much? Sorry for the question, still learning This:-)
Just bought this card myself, received it today. Performs pretty darned well for the games I play. Using it in an old 4590 based optiplex. Gets a little toasty, but I have a big fan on it. I am friends with your brother in Tallahassee.
I'm stunned that this card did as well as it did considering it being on a 64-bit bus and being a x4 PCI-e card. I didn't think you'd get frame rates that gave a nice experience when you put into a PC with only PCI-e 3.0 slots. It does seem odd that AMD would make it only a x4 4.0 card when budget systems with PCI-e 4.0 really aren't a thing. You'd think that they would have foreseen that the majority of buyers for this card would being installing this into an older system that only has PCI-e 3.0.
this is a laptop gpu, thats the reason why they are only pcie x4 and without ecoders. in the laptop space they know, that this cards runs on pcie 4.0 and for encoding they can simply use the iGPU
2 years later and I got a victus budget hp PC and it came with the 6400 and I'm able to play any game I want 1080, some at higher settings. I'll eventually need to upgrade but for now it certainly gets the job done :)
I have been looking all over for a decent graphics card for my Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF PC!! This is 2.5X as fast as my K1200!! Its only $130, I am sold!! I can’t find a single slot with descent or better specs than what I have until I found this!! Let’s do this AMD let’s see what you got!! Definitely not the best but will tide me off till I save up $1200 for a build!! Great Review Man!! ✌️🤟
If it was closer to $100, I'd buy it. The original 1650 msrp was $150, it's been several years and the 6400 performance is less than 10% better for the most part.
This is pre-2021 mentality. The cost of production due to supply limitation since the Pandemic and cost to ship due to the current fuel prices make this card being $100 unfeasable today. Nvidia will try to make the case that it can be like the good old days when a RTX 3080 was $700 if you camped out at Microcenter for three weeks, however; they released RTX 3050 MSRP at $250 but produced maybe 1,000 of those FE’s at that price and made their board partner’s take the hit when they had no way to make 3050 and be able to sell it at anything less than, $350 at the time.
@@shiftyjedi3417 I understand the current situation, but what I'm willing to pay is what I'm willing to pay, and imo, this is not enough for the price. Just because pricing is universally bad doesn't mean that I like something that follows that trend.
Man, AMD really wants to make the 6500 XT seem like the worse value card by a mile XD. With performance like this I feel like I'd much rather buy this and upgrade down the line, the 6500 XT just has too many unnecessary bottlenecks for the price.
6500 isn’t that bad plus you Poor peasants wanted cards brand new at 300 - 250$ so deal with it, if you live in america write your state legislatures about bringing back industry and semi conductor manufacturing back to the states rather than being absorbed by China (expect higher prices than now due to Slaves vs 8$ minimum wage)
After 4 yrs finally a LP single slot card that is better than my Vega 11 R5 2400G. I'm grabbing this as soon as it comes up on retail here. Fitting it in a Silverstone ML06 casing which only have 1 pcie slot lmao.
Would love to see this in your Optiplex 3050 i5-7500 pushed to the max with tweaks. Not sure how much Dell bios or 3rd party utilities will let you really do. Either way looking forward to a bunch of vids on this card. Just bought the Sapphire Pulse version on Amazon and it should deliver in about two weeks from now. On another note, no more CEMU in vids since Nin* has gotten a little trigger happy with reporting since steam deck launch?
I like the testing of this card! But not because of low profile (which also is fine) but for not needing an extra 6-PIN PSU connector! *Because many cheap OEM PCs (like the Lenovo you showed in the video) do not have an extra 6-PIN connector* and a new OEM PSU is quite expensive (also with HP Pavilion 590/595 machines)! And it seems like other TH-cam testers like Steve from Hardware Unboxed does not get this point. So I'm looking forward for the comparison with that 1650 but also an outlook to a very well known card like the RX 570 and especially power consumption would be nice! I know it's not low profile but these AMD cards kinda mark the sweet spot for budget gaming for years now. p.s. +ETA PRIME And of course a comparison to some Ryzen APUs would be interesting like the 2400G/ 4650G. It would be interesting to know how much the leap to the more faster on board graphic chips really is!
wow nice. I almost bought that 1650 LP a few months ago. compared to that $348 price tag on amazon, this cost half and faster too. thanks for the review.
would be absolutely amazing to test this side-by-side against desktop Ryzen 6000 APU which has exact same iGPU to see how much of a bottleneck is dual-channel DDR5-6400 or even higher if possible!
That would actually be a good comparison but i don't think Rx 6400 is for anything but old PCs cuz leaks say that Ryzen 7000 apus are gonna put perform any entry level gpu that exists
Looks like there's finally a good low profile card I can put into the couple sff I've been sitting on till a decent video card has come out to dedicate to a couple TV's I've got around the house.
Check Hardware Unboxed video on the 6500 XT, both cards are limited to 4 PCIe lanes so they share the same problem. In older or low-demanding games the impact may be small, but for modern games it's very big. Pairing it with a PCIe 3.0 CPU should be avoided if possible unless you have no other options.
Paired this one with a Ryzen 5600 in a miniPC configuration and did everything to give it the best chance. PCIe 4.0, ReBar on, 3600MHz CL16 RAM kit an a case fan blowing directly on it. I am actually satisfied (for now) and the price-performance ratio is really neat. A shame you can't overclock it, that really leaves a bad taste.
So the 6500XT is just in no man's land. Too expensive for the performance it provides, and the jump in performance versus the 6400 isn't the absolute biggest
The Low Profile XFX RX 6400 runs 10° hotter than the Sapphire equivalent. 75° vs 85°. The metal shroud on the XFX is practically half of the heat sink, and the unit will die if it clogs with dust. The plastic shroud on the Sapphire does nothing for performance and will not clog if taken off. The Sapphire is 5.3 ounces heavier with a bigger / thicker heat sink. Both cards perform the same with Heaven Benchmark, but the Sapphire does it 10° cooler. The fan on the Sapphire is also larger than the fan on the XFX.
You should test the Nvidia Quadro T600. It's single slot / low profile and uses the same die as the 1650;. The advantage it has over the 6400 is that it has video encode and decode, which the 6400 does not, so the Nvidia card is better for media center pcs.
T600 performs at about the 1050 Ti level T1000 is right between 1050 Ti and 1650 T2000 is equivalent to 1650 The RX 6400 performs at the level of the 1650 so it is the better deal by far, with the T600 generally costing $100 more The encoding is really it's only benefit; you'd be better suited getting the cheaper T400 if video encoding is all you are after as it has the same NVENC chip.
@@MGMan37 The T400 has 2GB while the T600 has 4GB. I got the T600 and chose it over the T400 and T1000 because of its price and VRAM size. In my opinion, the T1000 doesn't deserve its 80% price increase over the T600 for 40% more CUDA cores and same VRAM.
I installed the Nvidia T600 in a SFF Dell Optiplex, single slot and only consumes 40watts, runs flawless and would say performance is nearly on a par with the GTX 1650
@@nickhutchings4771 T600 is close to 1050 Ti, not 1650, even T1000 doesnt quite reach the 1650. T2000 is the one that is equivalent to the 1650 (same GPU die and specs)
Amazing After so much long time In the entry level market a dedicated Graphics Card showed up, Please Make a PUBG test in ryzen 4300g cpu because it's perfect budget build for Lower budget gamers.
Most likely it's the stock voltage which is always much more than you need. If you undervolt it and overclock it you will be able to get more FPS with an even smaller TDP, and you can always push the fan harder or put a 120mm that would blow fresh air on it. But overclocking might only be viable if you aren't already running into big bottlenecks at PCI-E 3x4 speeds which is essentially like running the GPU from an M.2 drive using that GPU adapter that ETA Prime used in his other videos
Just recently bought 2 of these yesterday! Took a few hours researching all sorts of LP cards that I need for a Dell 7050 workstation, and to replace an aging rx580 power guzzler that I'm putting in an older system. I must say, I picked a good card... impressive!
It would have been good to know what the 1% low was in that pcie 3 system, given the bus bottleneck. To me, mediocre average fps with low 1% is better than great average fps with poor 1% low.
@@luukverhoek4243 The 1% of the lowest framerate out of the gameplay session, they show the framerate it can dip to while gaming (which gives the microstutters that are distracting)
I threw this card in to my Desktop Optiplex 7070. I have it tied to my computer monitor and to my 2010 Samsung TV which I repaired when it died by replacing just one electrolytic capacitor. By setting both under the same settings, the RX-6400 hovers at around 52C under general use such as YT 1080 60 fps videos and Netflix. I also purchased a CPU fan cable splitter such that I was able to add a front case fan. I cut the sensor wire leading to the added case fan such that the CPU was the one in control only. I have no idea why the splitter had the sensor wire going to both fans since this leads to total chaos ? With the 7070, if you push the GPU to full 100% hot drive with test software, even though the CPU is still cool, the CPU fan will rapidly increase RPM and thus cool down the internal case temp. That is a handy feature. In my last test, the GPU was pushed to 98% activity, and the CPU fan automatically increased RPM to keep the GPU no greater than 80C, all while the CPU temp itself was just 38C.
Funny how AMD launched this card quietly and discretely exclusively for OEM. I guess the RX 6500 XT debacle hit them pretty hard. $100 USD would have been a way better price but like stated at the end of the video, the GPU market has been pretty brutal in the past 2 years.
@@ThaexakaMavro it was for 6 months and is just now available to the public. Don't play the asshole to someone who might not even speak English as a 1st language
Nah since the release of 6500xt they said they were going to make the 6400 and also the 6600 got a "discret launch" and is not like they "got hit pretty hard" so nah, is just how amd does things and you never get 2+ cards compete with each other, you first extract all the juice then you make another one and so on.
So this excells when putting it into an old small OEM without worrying about power constraints. I do really support this as it enables people to not pay that much. An upgrade to the GT 1030 was really needed.
For me I still believe this video card is overpriced, it should cost ~ $ 100, maximum $ 120. Plus is again on a PCI 4.0 x4 line, so any system that doesn't support it will get even worse performance.
As with all LP cards, there are scalpers who know these type of GPUs are in demand for SFF builders and thus many regions have this card inflated. Still not a good market for budget builds.
Sorry but the fact that this is only pci-e 4.0 means that it's basically only useful for like 2 or 3 processors in the Alder Lake family (And none of AMD's own low tier products support pci-e 4.0 btw) and once you factor in motherboards it *will* be more expensive than an AMD APU only solution and honestly, not all that much better. In fact if you wait 6 to 9 months or so and Ryzen 4 + RDNA 2.0 processors start to show up it probably will easily outperform this card. It's only real use is a drop in replacement for older system running that 1030 but again: Can this one even do hardware video transcoding? Because I know the 6500xt cannot so it's not even useful for a media center. Your video is as always fairly informative and useful don't get me wrong, but I just don't think it's a good idea for anybody to support AMD with products like the 6400 or 6500 even waiting on an APU only is a better option than to support defective-by-design products like this.
I am defo going to buy this. I'm on a very tight budget atm and due to circumstances I've found myself without a GPU and I used to stream.. Sadly my Ryzen 5 5600g and GT 930 aren't enough to do that anymore.. I'm hoping with this I can have the iGPU play the games as it is now and the GPU do the encoding, or perhaps the other way around, I'll certainly do some experimenting with it!
wow i finally found a pc setup almost identical to mine! i have the ryzen 3 5300g and i'm about to get the rx 6400, so this tells me everything I needed to know :D
Awesome little card. Would love to see the 1650LP comparison too. I would still love to see Assetto Corsa benchmarks too. Thanks for the amazing videos you make.
1:41 I meant, the 1650 Ti ain't much more powerful either since it's a laptop only card, in fact, it's only a tiny little bit more powerful than a desktop 1650 non-Ti, in fact, it's just 2% more powerful
Got this on its way from the states to Australia, hope it fits into my inwin Chopin pro I've already checked power usage with prime 95 going and damn I've definitely got enough in my budget for this card in my stupid small itx build for work, this will do the job for some light cad and 3d printing, and 1080p gaming during my lunch breaks haha 😂
someone has already suggested you to compare this with 680m laptop. also, it would be nice if compared as egpu for the same laptop vs using 680m if possible. thunderbolt would be tricky because of all amd laptop, but maybe use the dock used for steam deck video perhaps.
i was looking for the GTX1650 LP for my cousin HP mini pc but looking at the performance of this card, might as well go for this. thanks ETA for the review!
I'm really excited to see the emulation using this card. Honestly thinking about getting this as a place holder till I buy one of the upcoming cards then build another system to keep this in the living room.
You could use Radeon Super Resolution if you need to lower the resolution of the game. Upscales it to your monitor while still having the performance of your set resolution. Of course the image quality of the HUD won't be as great but if you're more focused on performance, RSR on these lower end RDNA cards are the way to go
This seems like the perfect replacement for my 750 ti in my emulator PC Build! And that price! Thanks for the great video (as always) ETA!
If you don't have pcie gen 4 you should consider a 1650 or a 1050ti instead
@@mat_max Nonsense
@@mat_max assuming that they can be found at non-scalper prices, right now it is the cheapest GPU is the best GPU. I don't remember the 750ti being low profile so a 6400 upgrade isn't exactly necessary.
@@mat_max That is not a problem if u dont go over 4GB of vRAM.
@@mat_max no bud @FlipLaScript should get this beast if he could find one for msrp
Ngl it’s gotta be the best entry level card to buy rn, I was able to make a 480$ budget gaming rig on pcpartpicker with it!
Edit: definitely upgrade the ram to 16gb, massively increases fps whilst only being 500$
Congrats
Would you be able to link a parts list? Would be interested to see what that looks like.
@@shinythings7 ight bet, but keep in mind it has the 6500 xt instead of the 6400, because the 6400 isn’t on pcpartpicker yet
@@shinythings7 Add 24 bucks to cover windows, thermal paste, and the usb drive to install windows.
Wow I expected much lower performance . And I think you can pull a few more fps out of it by overclocking it with to 75 watts tdp
Yeah I wasn’t expecting it to be like this, once we get some tools and mods for it I think it’s gonna be an awesome little card
@@ETAPRIME the specs of this cards aren't pretty close to the ones of the next generation AMD igpu?
Goes to show that the rx 6500xt is bottlenecked by the low bandwidth and/or not enough L3 cache and PCI-E x4 bus.
@@rattlehead999 They should have released the 6500 XT as an 6400 XT with only 5% less performance under 75W no 6Pin and LP...
hmm how much power can the pcie provide?
In my region they're already going for $265! Even the RX 6500 XT is cheaper , they're about $140 in this side of the world. So I wouldn't recommend this card if it's over $180 unless you really want to make a SFF build.
Here is around 245USD (with VAT). Shame... But this is just the first few day from the start. Probably it will going down. Nobody should by GPU over MSRP. I do not see shortage on the market.
Even second hand market seller are advertising their cards for long periods. Simply just nobody want to decrease the price. Buyers should be dealing aggressive.
WTH is with you guys markets it doesn't make any Sense(mind blown🤯🤯)
@@maestrohun exactly the buyers in my region atleast, are only buying cards from gamers , GTX 1060s here are cheaper than 1030s. Their refusing to buy from Scalpers and miners. Funnily enough there's one Scalper I know in my area on Facebook marketplace Who bought 50 RX 6500 XTs , overpriced them to nearly 200% MSRP expecting desperate gamers to pounce. However no one has bought any of them and the ad is still up almost 5 months later , in fact he dropped the prices but people are refusing to buy them still, so he's at a loss. Karma is deadly man😅👌🏽
@@THEANIMALGUY a lot of retailers in 3rd world countries like mine are almost , if not , worse than Scalpers in terms of pricing, the sad thing is that the employees are getting payed less.
@@memenation5105 damn jsee so we in same garbage place now i fully understand what's going on
This is exciting. I’ve had a SFF Optiplex 3020 for a living room gaming PC that can only fit a single slot card and I had hoped there would be a better option than a GT 1030 eventually
My exact set up
how much better is it than the 1030?
Much more powerful, plus has 4 GB of RAM instead of 2 GB. For example, with the GT 1030 (I don’t own one currently) I saw a video with God Of War where it was getting like 20 FPS on 1080p low settings. I picked up the Sapphire Pulse RX 6400 and I seem to be able to play pretty much anything on it at 1080p just have to turn down some settings on certain more depending games.
@@arcadeslum5882 There are variations of the GT 1030. The best one is the one w/ GDDR5 RAM and an active cooler (fan). The passive cooler, non-fan ones are terrible and of course GDDR4 is a step down. The crappy FPS you see are guaranteed from the shit versions. I have the best version and it runs well and really quiet. This RX 6400 is nice though! Looks like a GTX 1650 low profile but half the market costs. Will upgrade 😀
I was the same, grew tired of waiting years and no longer have that system unfortunately, would have loved one of these to breath some new life into it.
I have actually REALLY missed the single slot low-profile GPUs. They have been absent from the market for I don't know how long, unless you settled for something particularly low-end like the Geforce 710. I have a lovely little silverstone ITX case laying around which only supports a single slot GPU. Not all computers need to be gaming rigs. This one is small but would be great as a Linux desktop. I'm thinking a performance beast with focus on professional tasks. Virtualization, code compile and CPU encoding of videos (Ryzen 5950X, 64GB RAM). This GPU would be the perfect companion for such a setting. And AMD drivers in Linux are great!
There has always been plenty of GT 1030 and 1050 in single slot low profile here in Aus ,, hardly even sold during the :GPU pandemic".
@@tilapiadave3234 I guess it's quite different depending on the market. Here in northern Europe, we don't have access to a lot of odd-, or specilized brands, We can mostly only buy the big ones like msi, asus, gigabyte, Which usually are full height and 2+ slots. MSI did release low-profile cards, but I haven't seen single slot cards since 10 years back. unless it's a GT710
@@PixelShade It is strange that different markets have different pricing / availability. At the moment it seems Australia has a bargain in the rx 6600xt , I keep reading about Americans paying US $500 for it ,, here it is AUD $549 which is US $390 ,,, maybe I should start posting them to the USA ? LMAO
WTF you can afford over priced cpu and ram but cant spend abit more on a gpu that is 9 years old ... a high end phone 2-5 years from now could be 2-3x more powerful then this card... a mf phone...
@@simlife445 for professional application the 5950X makes sense. Creating a virtualized network development environment require tons of cores and RAM. You only need the GPU to make the computer run. And in my case I just want the computer to be small, tucked away, without even being connected to a screen. With that being said the RX6400 has far superior performance to flagship phones. I don't know what you get your "9 years" from. It runs Cyberpunk at 1080p Medium with an average of 37fps. Let me know when flagship phones can do that. The Steam Deck is an absolute monster GPU-wise, greatly outpacing any high-end phone. At the same settings in Cyberpunk you run the game at 18fps, similar results to a GTX1050. With other words, the 6400 IS a powerful GPU with 2x the compute of an GTX1050Ti, you just seem to have a very weird perception of performance my friend. And ultimately, my comment is on low profile single-slot primarily. I can't magically use a phone as a GPU for my virtualized setup, 🤣 And even if I could, it would be a worse experience, and a much more expensive solution.
Please do more PCIe 4.0 vs PCIe 3.0 comparisons, with a special attention to 1% lows if possible
Good Point!
Agreed! My Optiplex Is Pcie 3 only ;-)
The Lenovo IdeaCentre he was using is only PCIe 3.
Yes, also how this affects performance when using it on a cheap SFF used office PC from ebay.
The PCie 4.0 vs 3.0 are only relevant for the new AMD 6400 and 6500 cards. The reason behind that is because they were developed as mobile GPU's. In new laptops of course you put in 4.0 PCIe lanes, however, the more you put in, the more energy they drain (even when idling). In the laptop only 4 PCIe 4.0 lanes are used. Most video cards in a desktop configuration use the full 16 PCIe lanes. The top end cards do not come close to saturating that bandwidth but if you choke it down to 4 lanes...
Really nice review. Refreshing to see for a budget card to get some well deserved praise. Snobbery of some other PC review channels is a bit too much sometimes. This is a perfect little budget GPU, that can let you experience all the games on a budget, and the little efficient GPU does it quite well.
Yes, some other channels are sabotaging performance by running at too high quality settings and going look at this when really just turning it down a bit results in 60fps!
@@davidg2731 Dude I totally agree! Other channels are always putting down low end cards when all we realistically need is a card that can play the games smoothly what more can you ask for. LTT is a capital offender of this, they say buy a older card like a 1080 for the same price but its faster I mean smart buying is always a factory but those cards are on the way out and you will have more driver support for cards like this.
@enrique amaya How is your religious belief relevant to this discussion?
Glad I saw this today. Been trying to make a sff build for my sister as a surprise for her for work. Been keeping the price down using some older and spare parts I have around but I needed a LP card and hadn't been able to find one till I happened on this video.
Yooo finally an Rx 6400 in-depth review!
It just hit me that back in 2011, as a 13y/o who just got his first own PC, I bought an HD 6450 1GB card for around €60. And that this RX6400 is supposed to be in that same category of cards.
HD 4350 for me, same feeling seeing this card (& the theoretical price it should be in)
Inflation tho
This thing is like 30x performance of the 6450. Crazy how far we’ve come.
Mine is HD7750 and its still working with Windows 10.
Great video! The size of these is really impressive and will make this an amazing choice for tiny form factors
nice - 1 minute after release and the video is great ... good like farming xD
@@SaperPl1 Primes video production quality is always great so I can easily and safely assume the video is great before even finishing the video
I'm actually surprised at this rx6400. Even though i wish AMD added AV1 and more decoders but overall it's really good for price
Would have been nice with AV1 decoder.
They need to fix the mistakes they made with the 6500/400 in the new RDNA3 series. AMD ruined these cards by cutting corners.
Why would we want decoders?
@@erickalvarez6486 so when you watch video on TH-cam or Nyetflix the GPU took over the video playback processing, instead of CPU. Because if CPU do all the work, it will actually draw more power/Electricity
@@ClayWheeler interesting but my tv has netflix and youtube so I'm not using it for that plus I will either game of watch videos, never both so I guess I'm okay (?)
Finally an alternative for the gtx 1650 because it is so damn expensive here.
My friends: I can't do computer repair I can't keep up with tech
Me enjoying your content and keeping up with tech: 😁
This graphic card is definitely a nice stopgap for those who still want to game immediately while waiting for the price of high-end graphics card to go down to affordable level. Also I really missed single slot graphics card.
This is coming close to RX 570 4GB levels... very impressive for a slot powered card.
As long as you don't need a video encoder or HD decode
@@stephen1r2 99% people don't need it, only people who would be "smart" enough to do video editing/recording on low end gpu
I looked at the market prices for the two, 6400 is 150 while the RX 570 is 109 for the same specs. But 6400 has more support, more features, etc
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ I will give you an award for best gpu review. Straight to the point and no BS. You nailed the details we wanted to hear and it was all informative. Seriously, good job on this!
I bought an RX 6500xt a few months ago for $270. At the time, the RX6600 and the GTX 1650 were around $500. I couldn't afford that. The main reason I got it is that I've had my GTX 1060 for quite a few years now and didn't want to be caught empty handed if it was to die on me. The other reason is I wanted to take advantage of my R7 2700 and have a vm with gpu pass through. Despite having 2gb less, the RX 6500xt does just as good as the 1060 and even better at some games in Linux. People online gave me shit for getting the 6500xt. I don't care. When you only have a certain amount to spend and the prices are they way they are, you do the best you can. I only play at 1080p and the card is great at that.
I would see a full undervolted PC how efficient could be. (Undervolted 4C/8T CPU, UV GPU with at least 80+ Gold or better PSU)
I suppose it could be ~70-85Watt from the wall during 60/75fps capped gaming. And Idle/browsing could be maybe ~30-35Watt? That could be an awesome modern and efficient PC.
Not really related to the video but I like the theme of the GTA5 in every test video you put out, every time it's the guy in fancy suit coming out of a fancy car with the homing launcher wreaking the surroundings. Never gets old! 😂
would love to see that 1650 comparison, this one could be another gpu thats not scalper mined and can be used on low profile/office setups, also how much power does this and 1650 draw in games? some non-super 1650 OC editions have a 6pin so that one is definitely bordering the pcie 75w limit
Agreed
or could be another crappy gpu that nobody wants cuz it doesn't have video encoding hw...
Prices are on the way down. A garbage card like this will quickly become bargain bin. I like low profile single slot cards, but with no HS encoders in 2022? No thanks. Better to just get a CPU with onboard graphics.
@@iamstartower with an igpu on the cpu you would have hardware encoding
edit: just notice that it does not support av1 decoding. thats a shame
this one tops at 53w maximum
I'm really happy you included a comparison in this video!!
Cheers mate
That's impressive for a card that small!
I'm still rocking a 970 but don't play PC games these days.
It works though 😱
Nice review of LP GPUs. It really helps for SFF builders to make choices in tiny space.
Perfect card to make an inexpensive gaming machine for your youngsters. I have to hand it to the programmers of these games. They seem to be optimizing them to work great with lower end GPS. Seeing these FPS rating, I'm impressed. Love to see how this card plays DOOM and Subnautica.
Appreciate the clear and concise breakdown.
I would love to see how this card performs vs the gt-1030 and 1050 in the sff dell optiplex i-5 pc. I have 2 of the dell’s I use for gaming and emulation.
It beats gtx1650
@@anand.suralkar apparently after other videos you need a 4th gen i5 or better to take advantage of this card. It doesn’t perform well in the 3rd gen or under
@@arcaderacer586 Can I use rx 6400 in asus m5a78l-m/usb3 motherboard. It has PCI 2.0. Ans please. Later I will update my mobo to 4.0
Great video! I’ve been thinking about getting a used computer an setting up an emulation machine. I think this card may be just what I’m looking for! Thanks for all your vids! Ur the king of emulation machines! Luv the channel!
I hope they mass produce these units, there are alot of people still holding on to the 1050Ti/1650 cards and this is a no brainer as we wait for the midrange cards to finally hit MSRP.
Well, you've gotten your lucky streak because recently even high end card prices crashed because of the crypto crash. Better act quick tho
Finally got 2!!! NEEDED This review! Thank you ETA!!!!
I'm hoping that this motivates Nvidia to come out with an LP 3040, as those pcie 4x4 lanes really make this a non option for older sff pcs, even the ones from 2018.
go for an nvidia t600 or t1000 instead... those sips power from the pcie slot and have video encoder so you can easily stream your desktop 4k60hz while gaming performance is equal to gtx 1650.
There's NVidia T600 T800 T1000, while T1000 is theoretically RTX 3040.
T800 = RTX 3030 and so on.
It seems like T600 and T800 would be the more viable options
@@ClayWheeler sorry for asking, are the T600 ir T800 low profile and single slot?
Hi This Is my case, i have one old Optiplex...why This Is not viable? Is Because they use PCIe 3.0 and 4x4 lanes would hurt the performance todo much? Sorry for the question, still learning This:-)
Just bought this card myself, received it today. Performs pretty darned well for the games I play.
Using it in an old 4590 based optiplex. Gets a little toasty, but I have a big fan on it.
I am friends with your brother in Tallahassee.
I'm stunned that this card did as well as it did considering it being on a 64-bit bus and being a x4 PCI-e card. I didn't think you'd get frame rates that gave a nice experience when you put into a PC with only PCI-e 3.0 slots.
It does seem odd that AMD would make it only a x4 4.0 card when budget systems with PCI-e 4.0 really aren't a thing. You'd think that they would have foreseen that the majority of buyers for this card would being installing this into an older system that only has PCI-e 3.0.
this is a laptop gpu, thats the reason why they are only pcie x4 and without ecoders. in the laptop space they know, that this cards runs on pcie 4.0 and for encoding they can simply use the iGPU
2 years later and I got a victus budget hp PC and it came with the 6400 and I'm able to play any game I want 1080, some at higher settings. I'll eventually need to upgrade but for now it certainly gets the job done :)
Looking forward to these GPUs.
We finally have a modern card for a reasonable price for these little office PC builds.
I have been looking all over for a decent graphics card for my Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF PC!! This is 2.5X as fast as my K1200!! Its only $130, I am sold!! I can’t find a single slot with descent or better specs than what I have until I found this!! Let’s do this AMD let’s see what you got!! Definitely not the best but will tide me off till I save up $1200 for a build!!
Great Review Man!!
✌️🤟
also please make a direct comparison against 1650 LP, its so obvious to test these two side-by-side
If it was closer to $100, I'd buy it. The original 1650 msrp was $150, it's been several years and the 6400 performance is less than 10% better for the most part.
This is pre-2021 mentality. The cost of production due to supply limitation since the Pandemic and cost to ship due to the current fuel prices make this card being $100 unfeasable today. Nvidia will try to make the case that it can be like the good old days when a RTX 3080 was $700 if you camped out at Microcenter for three weeks, however; they released RTX 3050 MSRP at $250 but produced maybe 1,000 of those FE’s at that price and made their board partner’s take the hit when they had no way to make 3050 and be able to sell it at anything less than, $350 at the time.
@@shiftyjedi3417 I understand the current situation, but what I'm willing to pay is what I'm willing to pay, and imo, this is not enough for the price. Just because pricing is universally bad doesn't mean that I like something that follows that trend.
Man, AMD really wants to make the 6500 XT seem like the worse value card by a mile XD. With performance like this I feel like I'd much rather buy this and upgrade down the line, the 6500 XT just has too many unnecessary bottlenecks for the price.
6500 isn’t that bad plus you Poor peasants wanted cards brand new at 300 - 250$ so deal with it, if you live in america write your state legislatures about bringing back industry and semi conductor manufacturing back to the states rather than being absorbed by China (expect higher prices than now due to Slaves vs 8$ minimum wage)
what are you expecting a 6900 XT for 75 dollars?
@@luissalguero686 I'm saying the 6400 is a better deal, I'm confused???
6500xt is 199 and 6400 160 on Amazon, which one would You recommend?
@@Mayeloski 6500
this is the integrated RX 680M in desktop version with higher tdp @54 watt while RX 680M @15-45 watt and bigger vram but smaller bus width.
Considering my server still has a GT520 in it, which really doesn't have good driver support, one of these would be pretty tempting.
What do you use the server for ?
@@farhangh3577 file hosting, mostly, but I do occasionally play games on it, and run Fold@Home. The latter being the main reason to upgrade.
@@DFX2KX nice 👍
I would love to try it on my PC
But I don't know how ?
Is there any tutorial about it on TH-cam ?
Can always get an RX550 if you need driver support, obviously if you're gaming it's gonna perform worse.
@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 I've not seen any in low profile, unless I've just missed one on ebay.
Just got this card. Amazing for my sff 7th gen Dell pc. Cheapest investment in gaming pc and I am 100% satisfied.
Anyone who bought a 6500XT must have even more regret now. I really hope AMD’s next budget cards won’t be cost cut to oblivion like these are.
Yeah, the 6500XT should have never happened, just RX6400. But judging people's reactions to the 6400, I don't think it matters.
Your videos are always informative and useful
wow this little card is pretty impressive, i've been looking for a replacement for an older 750 non ti that i have in my arcade pc lol
After 4 yrs finally a LP single slot card that is better than my Vega 11 R5 2400G.
I'm grabbing this as soon as it comes up on retail here.
Fitting it in a Silverstone ML06 casing which only have 1 pcie slot lmao.
Would love to see this in your Optiplex 3050 i5-7500 pushed to the max with tweaks. Not sure how much Dell bios or 3rd party utilities will let you really do. Either way looking forward to a bunch of vids on this card. Just bought the Sapphire Pulse version on Amazon and it should deliver in about two weeks from now.
On another note, no more CEMU in vids since Nin* has gotten a little trigger happy with reporting since steam deck launch?
What happened with CEMU? I havent dl-ed any games in a while! NintenDont always up to somethin eh...
I like the testing of this card! But not because of low profile (which also is fine) but for not needing an extra 6-PIN PSU connector! *Because many cheap OEM PCs (like the Lenovo you showed in the video) do not have an extra 6-PIN connector* and a new OEM PSU is quite expensive (also with HP Pavilion 590/595 machines)!
And it seems like other TH-cam testers like Steve from Hardware Unboxed does not get this point.
So I'm looking forward for the comparison with that 1650 but also an outlook to a very well known card like the RX 570 and especially power consumption would be nice! I know it's not low profile but these AMD cards kinda mark the sweet spot for budget gaming for years now.
p.s. +ETA PRIME
And of course a comparison to some Ryzen APUs would be interesting like the 2400G/ 4650G. It would be interesting to know how much the leap to the more faster on board graphic chips really is!
Add some Linux testing too. This seems like a nice replacement for RX 550 LP (single slot). Drivers probably work out-of-the-box.
wow nice. I almost bought that 1650 LP a few months ago. compared to that $348 price tag on amazon, this cost half and faster too. thanks for the review.
would be absolutely amazing to test this side-by-side against desktop Ryzen 6000 APU which has exact same iGPU to see how much of a bottleneck is dual-channel DDR5-6400 or even higher if possible!
This also has infinity cache.
That would actually be a good comparison but i don't think Rx 6400 is for anything but old PCs cuz leaks say that Ryzen 7000 apus are gonna put perform any entry level gpu that exists
@@THEANIMALGUY keep believing that fake RGT videos
@@Raven-lg7td ok I'll do as i please and no one said they're true
@@Raven-lg7td RGT is trustworthy and you are not, nuff said
Looks like there's finally a good low profile card I can put into the couple sff I've been sitting on till a decent video card has come out to dedicate to a couple TV's I've got around the house.
Does the performance of the 6400 change when you put it on a motherboard with PCI-e 3.0?
Absolutely just like the RX 6500 XT, dumb GPUs...
Check Hardware Unboxed video on the 6500 XT, both cards are limited to 4 PCIe lanes so they share the same problem. In older or low-demanding games the impact may be small, but for modern games it's very big. Pairing it with a PCIe 3.0 CPU should be avoided if possible unless you have no other options.
Paired this one with a Ryzen 5600 in a miniPC configuration and did everything to give it the best chance. PCIe 4.0, ReBar on, 3600MHz CL16 RAM kit an a case fan blowing directly on it. I am actually satisfied (for now) and the price-performance ratio is really neat. A shame you can't overclock it, that really leaves a bad taste.
So the 6500XT is just in no man's land.
Too expensive for the performance it provides, and the jump in performance versus the 6400 isn't the absolute biggest
The Low Profile XFX RX 6400 runs 10° hotter than the Sapphire equivalent. 75° vs 85°. The metal shroud on the XFX is practically half of the heat sink, and the unit will die if it clogs with dust. The plastic shroud on the Sapphire does nothing for performance and will not clog if taken off. The Sapphire is 5.3 ounces heavier with a bigger / thicker heat sink. Both cards perform the same with Heaven Benchmark, but the Sapphire does it 10° cooler. The fan on the Sapphire is also larger than the fan on the XFX.
Please please please!!! compare it to the 1560 with the lattepanda!
Thanks for the video, it's neat to see a GPU in such a small footprint.
You should test the Nvidia Quadro T600. It's single slot / low profile and uses the same die as the 1650;. The advantage it has over the 6400 is that it has video encode and decode, which the 6400 does not, so the Nvidia card is better for media center pcs.
T600 performs at about the 1050 Ti level
T1000 is right between 1050 Ti and 1650
T2000 is equivalent to 1650
The RX 6400 performs at the level of the 1650 so it is the better deal by far, with the T600 generally costing $100 more
The encoding is really it's only benefit; you'd be better suited getting the cheaper T400 if video encoding is all you are after as it has the same NVENC chip.
@@MGMan37 The T400 has 2GB while the T600 has 4GB. I got the T600 and chose it over the T400 and T1000 because of its price and VRAM size. In my opinion, the T1000 doesn't deserve its 80% price increase over the T600 for 40% more CUDA cores and same VRAM.
I installed the Nvidia T600 in a SFF Dell Optiplex, single slot and only consumes 40watts, runs flawless and would say performance is nearly on a par with the GTX 1650
@@nickhutchings4771 T600 is close to 1050 Ti, not 1650, even T1000 doesnt quite reach the 1650. T2000 is the one that is equivalent to the 1650 (same GPU die and specs)
Amazing After so much long time In the entry level market a dedicated Graphics Card showed up, Please Make a PUBG test in ryzen 4300g cpu because it's perfect budget build for Lower budget gamers.
Would love to see a comparison with Ryzen 6000 APU against this GPU
Estentially the discrete version of RX680M. Best LP card. Great for Optiplex SFF.
I wonder how it would perform with power limit at 75w. But considering it reached 78°C at 53w....
Single slot cooling, what do you expect?
It's got a tiny ass cooler. U can prob undervolt it.
But there's a version with a dual fan cooler that'll probably run cold.
Most likely it's the stock voltage which is always much more than you need. If you undervolt it and overclock it you will be able to get more FPS with an even smaller TDP, and you can always push the fan harder or put a 120mm that would blow fresh air on it. But overclocking might only be viable if you aren't already running into big bottlenecks at PCI-E 3x4 speeds which is essentially like running the GPU from an M.2 drive using that GPU adapter that ETA Prime used in his other videos
Single slot so no space for a beefy cooler.
Just recently bought 2 of these yesterday! Took a few hours researching all sorts of LP cards that I need for a Dell 7050 workstation, and to replace an aging rx580 power guzzler that I'm putting in an older system. I must say, I picked a good card... impressive!
@enriqueamaya3883it was for me and millions of other now non believers.
It would have been good to know what the 1% low was in that pcie 3 system, given the bus bottleneck. To me, mediocre average fps with low 1% is better than great average fps with poor 1% low.
Less noticeable than with an RX 6500 XT for sure
Noob here... What is 1% low?
@@luukverhoek4243 The 1% of the lowest framerate out of the gameplay session, they show the framerate it can dip to while gaming (which gives the microstutters that are distracting)
This needs to be much closer to £100... Great video ETA, as always.
The only drawback is that almost every OEM that you want to upgrade with low-profile GPU has PCIe 3.0
He showed pcie 3.0 performance with the second setup
@@BusAlexey You missed my point
Perfect card to fit in Dell Optiplex SFF.
I'm pretty sure Nvidia will make a 3040 now that this is out
they making a rtx 2050 for laptops
It would about damn time, rtx 3050 is not a true entry level gaming gpu, we need something with 4gb gddr6 and 75w of tdp for under 200$.
@@ilnabboditurno1433 yes and Rx 6400 will be a great motivation to make a 3040
@@aadithire8213 dude we're talking about graphics cards that u can put in a old system not a laptop GPU that only OEMs have
@@aadithire8213 dude we're talking about graphics cards that u can put in a old system not a laptop GPU that only OEMs have
I threw this card in to my Desktop Optiplex 7070. I have it tied to my computer monitor and to my 2010 Samsung TV which I repaired when it died by replacing just one electrolytic capacitor. By setting both under the same settings, the RX-6400 hovers at around 52C under general use such as YT 1080 60 fps videos and Netflix. I also purchased a CPU fan cable splitter such that I was able to add a front case fan. I cut the sensor wire leading to the added case fan such that the CPU was the one in control only. I have no idea why the splitter had the sensor wire going to both fans since this leads to total chaos ? With the 7070, if you push the GPU to full 100% hot drive with test software, even though the CPU is still cool, the CPU fan will rapidly increase RPM and thus cool down the internal case temp. That is a handy feature. In my last test, the GPU was pushed to 98% activity, and the CPU fan automatically increased RPM to keep the GPU no greater than 80C, all while the CPU temp itself was just 38C.
Funny how AMD launched this card quietly and discretely exclusively for OEM. I guess the RX 6500 XT debacle hit them pretty hard.
$100 USD would have been a way better price but like stated at the end of the video, the GPU market has been pretty brutal in the past 2 years.
it's not oem exclusive
@@ThaexakaMavro it was for 6 months and is just now available to the public. Don't play the asshole to someone who might not even speak English as a 1st language
It's not like Rx 6300 where they make it OEM only.
Nah since the release of 6500xt they said they were going to make the 6400 and also the 6600 got a "discret launch" and is not like they "got hit pretty hard" so nah, is just how amd does things and you never get 2+ cards compete with each other, you first extract all the juice then you make another one and so on.
So this excells when putting it into an old small OEM without worrying about power constraints. I do really support this as it enables people to not pay that much. An upgrade to the GT 1030 was really needed.
For me I still believe this video card is overpriced, it should cost ~ $ 100, maximum $ 120. Plus is again on a PCI 4.0 x4 line, so any system that doesn't support it will get even worse performance.
Eh not really when the 6400 can't saturate the 4.0 specs. It can't even santurate the 3.0 specs
I love your channel. Great card and video
As with all LP cards, there are scalpers who know these type of GPUs are in demand for SFF builders and thus many regions have this card inflated. Still not a good market for budget builds.
That's very impressive performance, Especially in GTA V too!
Sorry but the fact that this is only pci-e 4.0 means that it's basically only useful for like 2 or 3 processors in the Alder Lake family (And none of AMD's own low tier products support pci-e 4.0 btw) and once you factor in motherboards it *will* be more expensive than an AMD APU only solution and honestly, not all that much better. In fact if you wait 6 to 9 months or so and Ryzen 4 + RDNA 2.0 processors start to show up it probably will easily outperform this card.
It's only real use is a drop in replacement for older system running that 1030 but again: Can this one even do hardware video transcoding? Because I know the 6500xt cannot so it's not even useful for a media center.
Your video is as always fairly informative and useful don't get me wrong, but I just don't think it's a good idea for anybody to support AMD with products like the 6400 or 6500 even waiting on an APU only is a better option than to support defective-by-design products like this.
I am defo going to buy this. I'm on a very tight budget atm and due to circumstances I've found myself without a GPU and I used to stream.. Sadly my Ryzen 5 5600g and GT 930 aren't enough to do that anymore.. I'm hoping with this I can have the iGPU play the games as it is now and the GPU do the encoding, or perhaps the other way around, I'll certainly do some experimenting with it!
The US somehow got better price for tech than anywhere else, the cheapest i can find in my country is $220 so no point buying this.
wow i finally found a pc setup almost identical to mine! i have the ryzen 3 5300g and i'm about to get the rx 6400, so this tells me everything I needed to know :D
Nice, your temps are good as well, the rx 6400 SWFT 105, was at 75c when at full load.
Keep it coming,
I rely on these for my dinner.
Not bsing lol
Awesome little card. Would love to see the 1650LP comparison too.
I would still love to see Assetto Corsa benchmarks too.
Thanks for the amazing videos you make.
You think this would work in a Dell OptiPlex 7050 SFF with 180 W ?
Something for my Emulation build! Can’t wait to see how this compares. Great video and thank you for the work.
1:41 I meant, the 1650 Ti ain't much more powerful either since it's a laptop only card, in fact, it's only a tiny little bit more powerful than a desktop 1650 non-Ti, in fact, it's just 2% more powerful
kinda cool to see a CPU using more than twice the power of the GPU
Can’t wait for the next video !
Got this on its way from the states to Australia, hope it fits into my inwin Chopin pro I've already checked power usage with prime 95 going and damn I've definitely got enough in my budget for this card in my stupid small itx build for work, this will do the job for some light cad and 3d printing, and 1080p gaming during my lunch breaks haha 😂
someone has already suggested you to compare this with 680m laptop. also, it would be nice if compared as egpu for the same laptop vs using 680m if possible. thunderbolt would be tricky because of all amd laptop, but maybe use the dock used for steam deck video perhaps.
Take off the I/O bracket and tape/glue this to the back of the steam deck and connect use it as a permanent EGPU
Hell yeah! I'm getting one! Single slot is my jam!
i was looking for the GTX1650 LP for my cousin HP mini pc but looking at the performance of this card, might as well go for this. thanks ETA for the review!
The great thing is I expect these to drop to a really reasonable price as the market comes down.
Excited on how it will perform on the optiplex sff pc.
I'm really excited to see the emulation using this card. Honestly thinking about getting this as a place holder till I buy one of the upcoming cards then build another system to keep this in the living room.
Finally a sensible benchmarker
Hope this becomes standard for low end hardware
Oh my god, I didn't think it was THAT tiny! I went all "wait a minute... that can't be right" when you grabbed it 🤣