You're wife is truly inspiring as far as relationship goals go. No nitpicking, no whining about safety, just letting you be a little boy in a big man's body. I can tell how supportive she is by her random commentary. She really trusts you. I'm glad God hitched you two. He knew exactly what He was doing. This channel is such a breath of fresh air in a fallen world. We, your fans, live vicariously through you two lol.
Think about it, the early cycle-cars were just that, cars with cycle wheels, and they performed just fine, as do motor-cycle combinations. So where comes this nay-saying on wire wheels? My first car (a 1939 SS Jaguar) had wires and cornered very well at 70mph. So your radical demonstration proved a point; let the doubters look to history before they start crying. Well done Tim & Team!
Looks like a couple backwards facing trailing skis a few inches off the ground ending right before the body sweeps up could help prevent a rollover. Similar to raising up training wheels on a bicycle. But ski wouldn't be construed as wheels but still give you safety in corners
The people who were worried those wheels wouldn't take the pressure likely haven't seen how heavy modern factory built trikes can be. The wheels may buckle from hitting bumps on corners from time time but it would take actually quite a lot to actually cause a failure. I'm sure you guys know how to bring a wheel back in True.
This wooden car reminds me of the Hustler. A town car made of wood in the late 1970s in Britain. It would come in a kit and you would assemble it yourself. If there's body damage I would think you would take to a carpenter. I would one day I like to build a Hustler myself.
What a lovely chuckle that was. Good work. Have you considered a couple of skids under the back end either side of the rear wheel. Only coming into contact with the ground when tipping, they might keep you upright. Just a thought.
it's so great to watch these videos and see someone who is doing things i want to do and who isn't a stuck up posh person! so many people on youtube who make videos of what they make and do are such miserable and fake people but tim and his crew are a pleasure to watch.
That was brilliant, you proved the design and refuted the nay sayers.😀👍 This bit of fun was reminiscent of the ‘The Last of the Summer Wine’ - just need a bit of rope to hold yer trousers up.😉
Well the front hubs that you utilizing seem to be that of a garden cart, but what do I know? But whatever the source is not really crucial as the design seems to work some of the choices you’ve made on the particular use of plywood is very good, and I enjoyed the project and the testing and the clarification and where you get the idea, I enjoy it, and thanks again for another interesting video. I would really appreciate seeing somebody Roller Mill their own rim use chronicle metallic discs and their own hub for the wheels they need, and the tires and intend to use, reason being I am in snow country and spokes really don’t work out in the snow, they collect too much snow on ice and create a flywheel of all the wheels. And depending on how dense the snow as they can be extremely heavy, years ago I used to use panels made from Childrens roll up snow sleds to enclose the spokes but it was a process…
so can you use bicycle stabilisers? That would sort out the stability issues, and technically if they don't touch the road normally, it's still only a three wheeled car!
when you first said the problem I was confused. I was a lead volunteer at a nonprofit bike shop in mankato mn called key city bike for years. and I was like no you won't have that problem. Then I saw the first roll over and it occured to me what people are warning you about. it is because of the tightness of spokes. it could be an issue because bike wheels like what you have on the front are built for a balanced, left to right, weight over the axel. I don't think you will have this issue for many many miles but you may want to keep an eye on the spokes. Just check them for tension. A few spokes loosing tension will cause any wheel to collapse or taco. Just search you tube for spoke tension and you should find what I'm talking about. Enjoy it as is for now. Love your videos.
Here is a reasonable video that explains the problem. th-cam.com/video/7vFlKI_Brts/w-d-xo.htmlsi=rkNRbyOy_IJuik64 Again you are likely fine for a lot of miles, as from new cheep wheels are designed without maintenance to last about 5000 miles and 10,000 with regular maintenance. Being loaded from the side you may lower both of those numbers but you still have a long ways to go. good wheels with maintenance can hit 20,000 miles.
I think people that told you that the bike wheels would buckle under the weight or when cornering have seen it happen several times on the red bull soap box races but the soapbox racers are normally built with heavy steel frames not a lightweight wooden frame.
People that told Tim the bicycle wheels would collapse have never seen these before - th-cam.com/video/GZ1NpCXHVVI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NiIJgreh15bd4X-w Guys are going over 100km/h in these, and nothing collapses.
@@Failer__ nope they probably haven't but then again those are most likely built to be very lightweight so the riders can achieve those speeds with just pedal power alone.
@@bendordoy4815 it depends. I'm currently DIYing one of those, and there is a huge variety of them. The ones on the video are racers, they are very light, and very low, but there are cruisers intended for everyday use too, they weigh anywhere between 30-50-somethinf kg (without the rider). It's more about aerodynamics than weight. When you exceed 25km/h aerodynamic drag starts to slow you down more than friction from tires, so those contraptions (called velomobiles) are slower to start than conventional upright bicycles, but will reach much higher top speeds due to aero advantages. Anyway, the point is that bicycle wheels are designed to tilt when turning, so the spokes are not bent under centrifugal forces. If you put the wheel on a tricycle the forces are different, since the wheel can't tilt so the hub is pushed outwards, while the rim turns inwards which puts stress on the spokes. Still,modern bicycle wheels are sturdy enough to take the beating.
If your personally concerned just cut a circle and add it to each tire. Could be aluminum. If it's practical a little bit wider front tires would help some.
Question for you: Would adding training wheels to the back be a viable option in regards to tackling the instability/roll-over issue? Seems like if there was a way to stop the car from getting past its tipping point, you could absolutely save it from ending up on its side (even if one front wheel ends up being airborne for a moment). Or would this violate it being a "3-wheeled vehicle"?
How about configurate the Little car with some sort of 'side wings' with tipover protection rollers on the bottom Sides to accumulate the missig stability on the backwheel in worstcase?Love your projects and looking Forward to Maybe take a hand on a version of it on my own !
I reckon if you made the bodywork a bit wider around the are immediately aft of the seat, it'd stop it being able to roll over - especially with a bit more weight low down (such as the batteries) to lower the centre of gravity
I have really enjoyed the series so far! It is very cool to see how you approach the challenges and solve them! I learn something every episode. Keep up the great work! And hello from Canada!
Is it necessary to have a "boat bow" shaped rear end? If it were a bit wider possibly it could have a bit of storage area and also might provide more surface area if/when it does rollover. The additional surface area might just hold the car on its side instead of over onto the operators head. It all looks impressive. Thanks for posting.
Way back I made a garden cart from 26 inch bicycle wheels. It lasted a couple of seasons of hauling fire wood. It was always loaded heavy. Finally the side load did destroy the spokes. But the wheels were quite a bit bigger around than yours , and had much more weight on them. My place was hilly , and it would be pulled along the sides of the slopes. I'm thinking it would still be alive if not for the side slopes , and being overloaded or just being abused.
QLD Australia. Its not the same in every state though. Some states list the definition of a cycle as "2 or 3 wheels", and others list it as "2 or more wheels". I've been working on a 4 wheel, 2 person, electric torque sensing assist quad-cycle with 48v/300W of solar for the roof. I'm opting to not use bicycle wheels though, and not because they are weak, but because the tyres on bicycles don't have the load rating needed, nor do they wear very well, or have good puncture resistance.
I think the back wheel "can't" be bent, because before it gets any dangerous sideload the car body hits the ground and takes the weight of the wheel. So don't change that design. For the front wheels, they are small enough, I think.
Given the dynamic of the rolls I think it makes sense to give the car a nose and put the batteries in front of the front axle, to offload as much weight as possible from the back wheel. In addition you could add a a closed storage compartment above, to allow for small stuff like a charger, a small toolkit, water bottle etc. to be stored out of the rain. With a rack on top you could even transport small items but sensitive items in front of you, so you can have an eye on them while driving, while it's still so low, that it should impede the the front vision. This should help to stabilize the car.
Those sheep are too disinterested, what you need are cows. I watched a video earlier this morning where a farmer was installing a cow brush in his field. When they started the whole herd was on the far end of the field. As they were digging the hole for the base about 15 cows had come over to see what they were doing. They checked out all of the parts for the post the brush was to be installed on. "What is this thing? Can I eat it?" It was actually funny watching the cows inspecting everything they were doing.
in future destructions I might keep the brakes; the most stress a vehicle experiences is often braking and cornering at the same time, as just about every bit of force gets put into the outside front. in the case of bike wheels, I'd be worried about the tension of both braking and cornering giving the spokes a run for their money. braking and cornering caused one really funny failure during the 2010 F1 chinese grand prix, both of buemi's wheels popped off!
I would say : use larger wheels on the front and lower the center of gravity. A larger track would also help. Add some suspension allowing the body to tilt in the curve, absorbing some of the kinetic energy. This law asking for 3 wheels is really stupid.
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 for the wheels, larger wheels on the front and back, and place the axis higher so to have the same distance between the body and the road. The larger the wheels, the higher the axes, the more stable the car will be. Ideally, the center of gravity should be under the axes, but you can at least try to move it closer. Front suspension : ideally, the best would be to force the body into the curve, like on a motorcycle, by moving up the wheel which is inside the curve, but it is complicated. The other is to allow some degree of body roll with limited traverse suspensions. This will lower slightly the center of gravity in the curves. That’s what basically made the 2CV stick to the road in the curves. With a larger track it would improve slightly.
Have you ever watched red bull soapbox races on channel 4.. the bicycle tires on some of these bend in half… but realistically I’m sure a any car would have materials damage in some of those conditions. What you need is a turbo boost like in knight rider. Also do you think you will sell prototype? As if it’s going to be scrapped I’ll get it for sure!
Do I recail from episode 1 that your front wheels are off BMX bikes and they have thicker axles? Bike wheels are much stronger than people think. The axle / hub will probably fail before the spokes.
I wonder how the law in Ireland would treat a single drive wheel, and four unpowered wheels, like the old Briggs and Stratton Buckboard Flyer. It's got the powertrain of a rear-wheel trike and the stability of wheels at all corners.
At the intended speeds this will see I think the bike wheel/tire setup should be fine. However, this "test" on soft dirt and wet grass doesn't reflect the most likely fail scenario on a course with greater traction like dry pavement.
Thanks for the excellent video. Thanks to the Stig for almost becoming buckethead. One does have to wonder how much more stable a four wheeler would be in the same test. I know it is because of laws and such. We have the same draconian rules here in Canada but one has to wonder all the same.
If you watch the soap box races on tv youll see bicycle wheel problems every episode..they dont handle side torces too well. That said your cart would roll before it got too much side force. Not sure if thats a good thing or not lol
if wire spoked bike wheels are not up to the task the plastic spokes should spread lateral loads.... from the thumbnail i think you may want to add a pivot point to the front end which would keep both front wheels on the ground. thanks as always for the videos...even the epoxy wont stiffen it enough i fear lol
that roll bar did it's job
You're wife is truly inspiring as far as relationship goals go. No nitpicking, no whining about safety, just letting you be a little boy in a big man's body. I can tell how supportive she is by her random commentary. She really trusts you. I'm glad God hitched you two. He knew exactly what He was doing. This channel is such a breath of fresh air in a fallen world. We, your fans, live vicariously through you two lol.
Ha! Thanks. I agree with everything except the god part : - )
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 I figured.
The quality of cinematography in the episode gave me absolute shivers. SHIVERS!!
5/5 everyone should patreon.
Agreed. This is the Citizen Kane of wooden car youtube videos!
That fancy camera produced some truly cinematic shots! Glad to see you all made it out intact.
well done, your Reliant Robin test proved the dangers of tricycle cars
"Where the air is thin", haha. Love this series of experimenting, I am always excited to see a new video.
fancy cinematography!!
The fancy cameras are really lovely
So enjoying the series on the car Tim…. your narration reminds me of Oliver Postgate and Nogin the Nog !😁
A true inventor Tim, risking life and limb to test your idea to it's limits.
Think about it, the early cycle-cars were just that, cars with cycle wheels, and they performed just fine, as do motor-cycle combinations. So where comes this nay-saying on wire wheels? My first car (a 1939 SS Jaguar) had wires and cornered very well at 70mph. So your radical demonstration proved a point; let the doubters look to history before they start crying. Well done Tim & Team!
Fun to watch you guys 😊
Apart from the interesting developments, I enjoy your joy having so much fun.
Cheers from the Netherlands 👍🏻🤝🏻🇳🇱
Glad you enjoy it!
Shows it is well made bro, ya on a roll as it were. Safe travels. Ken.
We just love Tim we will watch when we sit down just the job to relax with your a genius Tim .Bless you.😊😊😊😊😊😅😅😅😅
Looks like a couple backwards facing trailing skis a few inches off the ground ending right before the body sweeps up could help prevent a rollover. Similar to raising up training wheels on a bicycle. But ski wouldn't be construed as wheels but still give you safety in corners
An excellent idea!
Incredible camera work Tim!
Tim looks like a pioneer aviator with the helmet and welding gloves on.. 😊
I hope this convinces the transport minister to get cracking on that 4-wheel legislation.
Love it Tim! It’s just like the Wright brothers with better tools.
The people who were worried those wheels wouldn't take the pressure likely haven't seen how heavy modern factory built trikes can be. The wheels may buckle from hitting bumps on corners from time time but it would take actually quite a lot to actually cause a failure. I'm sure you guys know how to bring a wheel back in True.
It sounds like an old arm-chair 🤭 Kraaaash!!! Mission Acomplished!
Thanks Tim 😊
Well built! You should test it again with the roof on but then on paved road.
Very worthwhile testing. Fun had by all. Proved the need for a roll bar. Something fell off/out at 3:53.
Well isn't this a happy Thursday! Yeay Tim!!
I think what Joe did is called the "elk test" I admire your thoroughness 😊
cool and from where i come from its called the "moose rollover test"
@@doirlyneedauser150 Are you two serious?
@@abundantharmony yeah
This wooden car reminds me of the Hustler. A town car made of wood in the late 1970s in Britain. It would come in a kit and you would assemble it yourself. If there's body damage I would think you would take to a carpenter. I would one day I like to build a Hustler myself.
What a lovely chuckle that was. Good work.
Have you considered a couple of skids under the back end either side of the rear wheel. Only coming into contact with the ground when tipping, they might keep you upright. Just a thought.
Y'all give new meaning to "crash test dummies" Great job on the safety testing.
it's so great to watch these videos and see someone who is doing things i want to do and who isn't a stuck up posh person!
so many people on youtube who make videos of what they make and do are such miserable and fake people but tim and his crew are a pleasure to watch.
Wooden car crash testing - love it! Glad you all survived...
That was brilliant, you proved the design and refuted the nay sayers.😀👍 This bit of fun was reminiscent of the ‘The Last of the Summer Wine’ - just need a bit of rope to hold yer trousers up.😉
Well the front hubs that you utilizing seem to be that of a garden cart, but what do I know? But whatever the source is not really crucial as the design seems to work some of the choices you’ve made on the particular use of plywood is very good, and I enjoyed the project and the testing and the clarification and where you get the idea, I enjoy it, and thanks again for another interesting video.
I would really appreciate seeing somebody Roller Mill their own rim use chronicle metallic discs and their own hub for the wheels they need, and the tires and intend to use, reason being I am in snow country and spokes really don’t work out in the snow, they collect too much snow on ice and create a flywheel of all the wheels. And depending on how dense the snow as they can be extremely heavy, years ago I used to use panels made from Childrens roll up snow sleds to enclose the spokes but it was a process…
so can you use bicycle stabilisers? That would sort out the stability issues, and technically if they don't touch the road normally, it's still only a three wheeled car!
Getting muddy in a field is half the fun, Sandra.
when you first said the problem I was confused.
I was a lead volunteer at a nonprofit bike shop in mankato mn called key city bike for years. and I was like no you won't have that problem.
Then I saw the first roll over and it occured to me what people are warning you about. it is because of the tightness of spokes. it could be an issue because bike wheels like what you have on the front are built for a balanced, left to right, weight over the axel. I don't think you will have this issue for many many miles but you may want to keep an eye on the spokes. Just check them for tension. A few spokes loosing tension will cause any wheel to collapse or taco. Just search you tube for spoke tension and you should find what I'm talking about. Enjoy it as is for now.
Love your videos.
Here is a reasonable video that explains the problem. th-cam.com/video/7vFlKI_Brts/w-d-xo.htmlsi=rkNRbyOy_IJuik64 Again you are likely fine for a lot of miles, as from new cheep wheels are designed without maintenance to last about 5000 miles and 10,000 with regular maintenance. Being loaded from the side you may lower both of those numbers but you still have a long ways to go. good wheels with maintenance can hit 20,000 miles.
Thanks - and I'm not expecting to go very fast either. We'll see how it goes..
Looks like a rollover hoop would be a good idea in the next one. At least to save drivers from themselves 😂
T-top! T-top I say, Bandit!
I think people that told you that the bike wheels would buckle under the weight or when cornering have seen it happen several times on the red bull soap box races but the soapbox racers are normally built with heavy steel frames not a lightweight wooden frame.
People that told Tim the bicycle wheels would collapse have never seen these before - th-cam.com/video/GZ1NpCXHVVI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NiIJgreh15bd4X-w
Guys are going over 100km/h in these, and nothing collapses.
@@Failer__ nope they probably haven't but then again those are most likely built to be very lightweight so the riders can achieve those speeds with just pedal power alone.
@@bendordoy4815 it depends. I'm currently DIYing one of those, and there is a huge variety of them. The ones on the video are racers, they are very light, and very low, but there are cruisers intended for everyday use too, they weigh anywhere between 30-50-somethinf kg (without the rider).
It's more about aerodynamics than weight. When you exceed 25km/h aerodynamic drag starts to slow you down more than friction from tires, so those contraptions (called velomobiles) are slower to start than conventional upright bicycles, but will reach much higher top speeds due to aero advantages.
Anyway, the point is that bicycle wheels are designed to tilt when turning, so the spokes are not bent under centrifugal forces. If you put the wheel on a tricycle the forces are different, since the wheel can't tilt so the hub is pushed outwards, while the rim turns inwards which puts stress on the spokes. Still,modern bicycle wheels are sturdy enough to take the beating.
@@Failer__ Smaller diameter wheels probably make it sturdier, too. . . .
Our soap box used BMX wheels and they were very tough. 😊
Thanks great fun
Reminds me of the Top Gear Reliant Robin episode. Well done
Lovely to see the farm through that lens! And great job on the crashes, you are all brave as they come!
2:43 - Well, the "roll-plank" worked 🙂
If your personally concerned just cut a circle and add it to each tire. Could be aluminum.
If it's practical a little bit wider front tires would help some.
Question for you:
Would adding training wheels to the back be a viable option in regards to tackling the instability/roll-over issue?
Seems like if there was a way to stop the car from getting past its tipping point, you could absolutely save it from ending up on its side (even if one front wheel ends up being airborne for a moment). Or would this violate it being a "3-wheeled vehicle"?
How about configurate the Little car with some sort of 'side wings' with tipover protection rollers on the bottom Sides to accumulate the missig stability on the backwheel in worstcase?Love your projects and looking Forward to Maybe take a hand on a version of it on my own !
I reckon if you made the bodywork a bit wider around the are immediately aft of the seat, it'd stop it being able to roll over - especially with a bit more weight low down (such as the batteries) to lower the centre of gravity
Perhaps increase the front wheel size and front track will help cornering ?
Great project - hypothesis tested against reality.
I have really enjoyed the series so far! It is very cool to see how you approach the challenges and solve them! I learn something every episode. Keep up the great work! And hello from Canada!
Either another wheel or more brakes to slow before a sharp turn.
Is it necessary to have a "boat bow" shaped rear end? If it were a bit wider possibly it could have a bit of storage area and also might provide more surface area if/when it does rollover. The additional surface area might just hold the car on its side instead of over onto the operators head. It all looks impressive. Thanks for posting.
The Stig! Nice 8D
Real Crash Test Dummies! Best Episode yet!
Way back I made a garden cart from 26 inch bicycle wheels. It lasted a couple of seasons of hauling fire wood. It was always loaded heavy. Finally the side load did destroy the spokes. But the wheels were quite a bit bigger around than yours , and had much more weight on them. My place was hilly , and it would be pulled along the sides of the slopes. I'm thinking it would still be alive if not for the side slopes , and being overloaded or just being abused.
Ah, singing birds! And of course the car is brilliant
Hello from Detroit Michigan brother thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise and for taking us on your adventures
So glad we are allowed to have 4 (or more) wheels on a cycle here and its still under the same classification as a bicycle.
Where are you?
QLD Australia. Its not the same in every state though. Some states list the definition of a cycle as "2 or 3 wheels", and others list it as "2 or more wheels".
I've been working on a 4 wheel, 2 person, electric torque sensing assist quad-cycle with 48v/300W of solar for the roof.
I'm opting to not use bicycle wheels though, and not because they are weak, but because the tyres on bicycles don't have the load rating needed, nor do they wear very well, or have good puncture resistance.
Some thought, as you don't have fromn suspension now, perhaps there's a way to move the front wheels a bit to the back? Shift weight forward this way.
I think the back wheel "can't" be bent, because before it gets any dangerous sideload the car body hits the ground and takes the weight of the wheel.
So don't change that design.
For the front wheels, they are small enough, I think.
Reliant Robin pedal-car :)
Given the dynamic of the rolls I think it makes sense to give the car a nose and put the batteries in front of the front axle, to offload as much weight as possible from the back wheel.
In addition you could add a a closed storage compartment above, to allow for small stuff like a charger, a small toolkit, water bottle etc. to be stored out of the rain.
With a rack on top you could even transport small items but sensitive items in front of you, so you can have an eye on them while driving, while it's still so low, that it should impede the the front vision.
This should help to stabilize the car.
You could really tell that the camera guy was a camera guy, brilliant camera work
VOSA will be proud! Great video and some good testing.
The wooden Reliant Robin 3 wheel tip over, shades of Clarkson buffoonery!
That roll bar does need to be higher and a bit wider =) Ideally two hoops in the car that pass the broom handle test.
Fun thanks
6:03 should be the new Wilhelm Scream.
Such fun 😊
There a decent NCAP rating for collision! - drive safe
lots of fun
I keep asking, can you make the rear wheel turn too? so it corners without flipping
Looks like the Fast and Furious franchise has some competition. 🤗
You need anti-tipping baby training wheels, a little above ground, or maybe some metal bars skid!
This was just like rewatching Anthony Hopkins at the end of The World’s Fastest Indian.
Sweet- great fun
Those sheep are too disinterested, what you need are cows. I watched a video earlier this morning where a farmer was installing a cow brush in his field. When they started the whole herd was on the far end of the field. As they were digging the hole for the base about 15 cows had come over to see what they were doing. They checked out all of the parts for the post the brush was to be installed on. "What is this thing? Can I eat it?" It was actually funny watching the cows inspecting everything they were doing.
Is all this just to participate in redbull soapbox ?
I'm kidding :D
Great work.
Can't wait to see more of it
Goes through that bog about as well as my Toyota Hilux!
in future destructions I might keep the brakes; the most stress a vehicle experiences is often braking and cornering at the same time, as just about every bit of force gets put into the outside front. in the case of bike wheels, I'd be worried about the tension of both braking and cornering giving the spokes a run for their money. braking and cornering caused one really funny failure during the 2010 F1 chinese grand prix, both of buemi's wheels popped off!
Is this a new camera? it's amazing
I would say : use larger wheels on the front and lower the center of gravity. A larger track would also help. Add some suspension allowing the body to tilt in the curve, absorbing some of the kinetic energy.
This law asking for 3 wheels is really stupid.
can you work out how to do it though?
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 for the wheels, larger wheels on the front and back, and place the axis higher so to have the same distance between the body and the road. The larger the wheels, the higher the axes, the more stable the car will be.
Ideally, the center of gravity should be under the axes, but you can at least try to move it closer.
Front suspension : ideally, the best would be to force the body into the curve, like on a motorcycle, by moving up the wheel which is inside the curve, but it is complicated.
The other is to allow some degree of body roll with limited traverse suspensions. This will lower slightly the center of gravity in the curves.
That’s what basically made the 2CV stick to the road in the curves.
With a larger track it would improve slightly.
You do realise you've now invalidated the warranty? 😁
😂🤣
Oh please, you so much as crack the freshness deal and you’ve voided the warranty
I'm here to talk to you about your cars extended warooooah... Never mind, wrong house.
As long as the vendor doesn't find those videos, he's fine I think.
Was that loud noise the sound barrier being broken.😮
Red bull soap box race next ? ❤
small wheel diameter helps (I am guessing you got 20" at the front?)
I would only suggest one thing just tighten the spokes and maybe slightly fatter tires. Well two things.
Tim you are the best. If you would be allowet to build the car with 4 wheels it would be even saver than it is.
Suggest you look at red bull soap races ,bike wheels are not strong enough , enter your car in a red bull race an see how it performs
Cheers dave
What you need is stabilisers on the back..
Great fun
Have you ever watched red bull soapbox races on channel 4.. the bicycle tires on some of these bend in half… but realistically I’m sure a any car would have materials damage in some of those conditions. What you need is a turbo boost like in knight rider. Also do you think you will sell prototype? As if it’s going to be scrapped I’ll get it for sure!
This might sound stupid, but I think the center of gravity might be a bit high up or something. Anyway nice video , I had a lot of fun watching it.
Do I recail from episode 1 that your front wheels are off BMX bikes and they have thicker axles? Bike wheels are much stronger than people think. The axle / hub will probably fail before the spokes.
Looks safer than the Reliant Robin! I wish you could double the rear wheel (two wheels connected into one), to get a bit more width and stability.
thats a good idea- does the ministry count 2 wheels that are mostly touching as one wheel? Or if theyre 1 inch apart? (i bet they do)
Seems reasonable, especially if they are connected with spacers making it more a of a single unit.
I wonder how the law in Ireland would treat a single drive wheel, and four unpowered wheels, like the old Briggs and Stratton Buckboard Flyer. It's got the powertrain of a rear-wheel trike and the stability of wheels at all corners.
I love love this car! Also love the new camera or lenses going on in this one, fun to see new styles in your video!
Glad you like it!
it's also been raining for weeks in my part of the world
At the intended speeds this will see I think the bike wheel/tire setup should be fine. However, this "test" on soft dirt and wet grass doesn't reflect the most likely fail scenario on a course with greater traction like dry pavement.
Thanks for the excellent video. Thanks to the Stig for almost becoming buckethead. One does have to wonder how much more stable a four wheeler would be in the same test. I know it is because of laws and such. We have the same draconian rules here in Canada but one has to wonder all the same.
As was mentioned prior, I do think a pair of "training" wheels that almost touch the ground on a roadway would be appropriate.
Would squarer profile tyres give more grip as the round profile of bicycle tyres are ment to roll around corners when leaning over??
ever look into toe-in or camber for the front wheels?
I think it is already incorporated
If you watch the soap box races on tv youll see bicycle wheel problems every episode..they dont handle side torces too well. That said your cart would roll before it got too much side force. Not sure if thats a good thing or not lol
if wire spoked bike wheels are not up to the task the plastic spokes should spread lateral loads.... from the thumbnail i think you may want to add a pivot point to the front end which would keep both front wheels on the ground. thanks as always for the videos...even the epoxy wont stiffen it enough i fear lol