Can you pass for Black? (Adrian Piper's story)
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Imagine a world where your identity isn't just questioned-it's tested. In this video, we explore the concept of 'passing for Black' through the lens of Adrian Piper's 'The Suffering Test.'
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Very good, as I mentioned you are mestiza and creole. Now you have your origin a little clearer. All people in America continet are Americans, look for a demonym for you in USA. Lousiana was Spain too apart from France. Your surname is Spanish, isn't it?
You have a roll, may God preserve it for you, my mother. Despite all this, I haven't seen a whole video of yours, so you can tell me what your life drama is?
Welcome to India Superior....
Bout FELL Out when my Father said in the late 60s, we are Blackfoot Indians.....
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As a "Black" Man, being Black is dangerous. It's not for the weak of heart. Many want to be Black until it's time to be Black. Some can only imagine but those who know... know.
Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about. My experience has been the exact opposite. Everywhere I go people think I'm a Marine or if I'm in a city they think I'm a professional football player. Speak for yourself. Maybe you don't even realize the advantages WE have created for ourselves.
2 people who may have to tick the same box with entirley different life experinces in the USA?
Getting old is not for sissies! Being a black man getting old is treacherous in USA!
@@TheGreatness-gg1jx You have a one sided view just because people think you're a marine or a football player doesn't mean they respect you. I've always been the big black guy and it is absolutely more harm than good. People see me as a threat quicker than anyone else and tend to take offense and be more combative. Maybe you don't realize the same positive qualities we have and created for our selves is also part of the same negative qualities that works against us.
Yes, black physiology is under attack and under research because so many non-blacks think there is an advantage.
And blacks are clearly in more danger than whites or Asians, but blackness is not dangerous, people who are envious and fearful of blacks are dangerous; any one who says otherwise has no respect for tacit statistics and facts.
And it's true people are fascinated by black people and culture, but they won't sacrifice their privilege or extend their empathy in any meaningful way to push society closer to equity.
Eminem, Elvis, Adele, Arianna Grande the list is exhaustive of how mainstream rewards the theft and appropriation of black culture.
A 3rd cousin once removed, a DNA match, contacted me, a young black woman, she had an ancestress pass for Black. Her great grandmother was my grandmother's first cousin. I'm white. She found this out doing genealogy. Anyway, she assumes she did this because her ancestors lived in 1920's Jim Crow Louisiana. So illegal for them to get married. Their family had no idea. The story was always she was light. I believe my grandmother may have told me a variation of this story. She told a story of "a neighbor" who married this man and had a baby and when the baby was a few months old, he started to look part "color....ed." Anyway, her husband admitted he was Creole from Louisiana, and they separated, and he took the baby to Louisiana to his mama to raise. Of course, in Jim Crow Mississippi they really had no choice. I wonder if this was the same woman, and she missed her baby and husband so decided to move to Louisiana and pass as Black. Even in the1960's my grandmother would have never told the whole story that it was really her cousin and not a neighbor, and that she left the family to live with her Black husband and child. May be 2 different people. Who knows?
WoW!!!
That is fascinating
that’s deep
Being in this society of passing puts stress on families. My grand father passed for Caucasion. But the family did not. They were tan and dark brown. It affected getting apartments in
Brooklyn New York. My Mom was born 1931. So I can fully relate. But my Mom was researched and it listed her as white? This should never matter,
I left ither information channels in your sites
Know Cultural-Intelligence. Thank you young-lady, you are an Independent Journalists stepping on toes of a lot of people, rocking the boat, stay strong, God protect and bless you.
Watching this before someone tries to take it down.
I already saw it get a little bumpy after upload, all the comments were hidden from me.🥲
@@nytn the negative ones? I will look to see if I see any.
@nytn u kno Matt Walsh jus made a documentary bout u rce grifters? u talkin bout how evil wte people are, I don't see how this brings unity among peoples? u causing division. and I will be reporting this. it's WRONG.
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If you can't take the real heat then gtfo of the kitchen and if you can't read or understand the recipe don't cook! Don't retribute the evil and horrific acts of yt colonizers is the worst kind of taste. Nothing but facts and truth in this section...@@CurtisJeffries-cd5vu
Interesting. On the flip- I learned at my grandmother‘s funeral that she was able to pass the “paper bag test” ( not too dark) and was able to become one of the first indigenous black American nurses in her town of Jackson. It was really amazing to watch the nurses association “release her of her duty”. Got a little choked up. Great channel, sister! Bless you for your courage.
Passing for white is not always having white skin. I'm mixed with black, white, and Native American. I'm majority black. My skin tone is brown. I have mixed race hair, type 2-C. My facial features to me look black... probably because I was raised black. I was told that I looked ambiguous. I've been in the presence of white people who talked negatively about black people, and unbeknownst to them... I am 60% black! Imagine that...
I can imagine it. My mother was black and very fair-skinned and was often mistaken for Italian. 🤷🏽♀️She always spoke up when people spoke disparagingly about black people and reminded them that she was one of the people they were talking about. I've had similar experiences. Racism is alive and well.
Are we also to imagine that you've never heard blacks making disparaging comments about whites?
I took a DNA test and I was 51% various European but I will always identify as Black
Something tells me you are perfectly fine with black people talking negatively about white people
@@curtislowe195 It’s crazy you’re in another comment doing the same. That’s projection. 😂
Your presentations are very interesting. The amount of work you put into research and your videos is greatly appreciated. I really feel that your work could be incorporated into a Sociology Course at University level. Good job !
I second that 👏
I guess you could pass as Black but I’ve never met anyone that tried it. I can almost guarantee that those that aren’t “Black” would not want the full Black experience.
@Bigfish1day ,there are quite a few. One even was the head of NAACP and another was an artist who wanted to marry a Black woman in the 50's. Those were the more famous cases but it happens. There are some even on social media saying they are Black but we found out they are not.
@@joyfra3549.both of my grandfathers passed as Black… one was disowned by his family😢
@@joyfra3549.both of my grandfathers passed as Black… one was disowned by his family😢
@@joyfra3549 I don’t think they’re getting the full experience. They can switch back if needed. I bet they didn’t change their birth certificate and other legal documents. Pretending and being are totally different.
If you think about it, the people that try to pass for black end up being considered a higher status in the black community because of colorism. In the white community these people would just be a regular white person. So it's almost a form of elevation for them in my opinion. Especially because when they go in white spaces white people favor them over darker black people as well. Look at Rachel dolezal. She looks very racially ambiguous. She ended up at the head of the NAACP. I wonder if she would have risen to the top of any other company if she was just being her white self. And that's not to say she's incapable but it makes me wonder how much her light skinned/white adjacent privilege helped her succeed in black spaces.
You are so transparent and your content is very thought-provoking. Thank you.
Yes, you can pass for black as a biracial person, just like you can pass for white as a biracial person.
There are biracials you would never know are mixed with white.
This!
This is a no-win situation, much respect.
The short answer is no. But, there is a gate keeping issue going on with who and what is acceptable as Black.
It's not no win. Light skinned people who refuse to acknowledge the function color plays don't respect reality nor other people much.
They have to center their rejection by Black people over and above solidarity in protecting Black ppl from the harm people with white skin do, which Black people have never done to them.
@@ReshonBryantThere is no,”Issue”. We know what’s black and what’s not. If anything were lenient with it.
@@imeaniguess.6963 boy shut up. We don't know sh*t. You always chiming in for what we supposedly doing🤣
0:42 I hate that anyone should be made to feel like that. Our heritage should not be turned into a qualification where someone else should be able to police it.
Keep on doing you, Danielle! Love your content. ☮️💜
I'm of mixed heritage. I'm metis and it shows. I've been called pretendian. I was like, really? It'a not like I can't prove my genealogy or don't look like a person of mixed heritage. It hurt so much I can say to be denied your heritage.
That's awful especially since most tribes and bands in the US seemed to have rejected white supremacist views of racial purity and focused on lineage and culture. In the US, the government used blood quantum rules to try to crush the numbers of Native American identified people.
You have every right to embrace and claim your heritage! Don't let anyone tell you who or what your are!
I hear you. I'm white but of multiethnic heritage. I live in Europe where you are identified for what you look like and nobody questions about that. But there's another side of the coin. If you are mixed you will always be what you appear to be. I mean, if you look more white, you'll be seen as white for the rest of yr life and if you look more blk, ppl will always see you as blk, no matter how and what you FEEL you are. For example even if I am mixed, since my appearence is white I have to identity as such, whether I like it or not.
I am so proud of you when you resist the language police! Anyway, I’m a person of mixed heritage. Black white and East Indian. Apparently I’m racially ambiguous. I pass for everything and nothing at all same time!! People say such awful racist things to me about whichever race they don’t perceive me to be 😂. I know it’s not supposed to be funny but sometimes I just burst out laughing, correct them, …..and they never speak to me again.
I have laughed. Once I was making small talk with a dad at our kids’ athletic event and he straight up asked if I was Mexican or Muslim. (He was from Mexico). I laughed 😂😂
Dominicans, Philippinos, Eritreans, Brazilians, Algerians, Egyptians, French creoles and Mexicans think I am one of them….. which is kind of nice except that I mostly don’t understand what they are saying 🤣.
Black, White, and East Indian?
I would imagine you have amazing features.
Go with it!!
@@nytn but what were you laughing about? if you‘d tell me you are Mexican, Italian, Spanish, North African I‘d believe you. New to this channel so I don’t know your factual background
@@yodigak8810 I grew up only knowing my dad's side of the ancestry (Italian). My mom's gram was Creole/Hispanic but tried to pass for French
I've actually read about this woman! Her story is fascinating and I'm so glad you discovered her. Great video! 👏🏽👏🏼👏🏽👏🏼
Her story sounds like a northern and black non-american issue. Those of us in the U.S south who are labeled black have plenty of family members who look like this lady. The only black people who give people with her complexion a hard time are immigrants from the west indies and Africans. We make all shades. I've seen two lightskin parents make a darkskin childs. I've seen a dark skin parent and lightskin parent have all light skin children with one of them being "damn near white". They're still one of us.
I think that this is for those of them folk that don't do genealogies.
Actually you are just repeating racist one drop.rule nonsense.
Biracial and mixed race people are simply that- mixed race.
In African and even Carribbean nations, mixed race people are not considered black.
Only in the US is there this odd " black comes in all color"" fiction.
for me there is no difference between afro american, usa people are very national centered.
just like other usa people. "that black guy from the uk is a "afro american" even if he is from nigerian descent".
What black guy from the U.K?
That would explain the discrepancias between black on southern american and caribean or Puerto Rican ( my people).
The Indian peopel didn’t use the world Indian, you have to remember the French controlled those lands. My Great grandfather called himself Guinée (in french) which means d'inde which translates to Indian. They switched it to a gold coin which we know the Indigenous people wore Gold especially in the Americas. The Europeans took the name and applied it lands to throw off the true origin and meaning. Just like Paupa new guinea. The truth is in the words and names
well Mindy Kailings brother shave his head in order to pass for black in order to go to med school
Shaun King, Rachel Dolezal and Nuka Zeus also choose to identify as Blk.
I dislike the fact we still allow the divide and conquer through colorism. As a community we have to confront the colorism problems. Willie Lynch theory has a hold on minds of some.
throat closed up, trying not to cry. this hits HARD. my story of NEVER belonging....
You belong here!
@@nytn thank you. and thank you for telling our stories. history is not only written by the victors; it is written by the SURVIVORS.
Just remember. You are someone. He chose you. Because, you are His workmanship. His name is Jesus. And He loves you very much. 😊
Have you ever read: White Like Her: My Family's Story of Race and Racial Passing by Gail Lukasik? She looked into her mother's heritage and found that she had a mother who was passing who never told her husband.
Great book. Have u seen the movie called, imitation of life. It’s an old movie from the 50s that’s literally all about what she’s talking about a girl who is passé blanc and her mother who is dark. The story takes place in the south where the girl goes on to lead a life passing for White, but sadly finds out that the people who she thought excepted her for being white disregard her and treat her like scum. Once they find out she’s not white..
It’s a really sad movie, but very eye-opening, in terms of the lines of separation and segregation that played out during that period of American history
I read Black Like Me. I used to tan from Olive to Black every Summer and I related to some of his experiences.
@@kingalpha4203 Cool another old movie to check out. I love older stuff. I'm a millennial who actually prefers a lot more music, telly and film from the boomer era. History is fascinating in the way it shapes and mold our perception and holds a time capsule even if its ugly.
@@kingalpha4203….my papa’s people always stated those types of race movies was to discourage white passing people of color from doing so. It didn’t work any more than the other race movie, “Pinky”, did.
My Louisiana Cajun mama (white) eloped to the north with my Creole papa (black) so they could marry. Her Cajun papa seemed to have forgotten he was disowned for marrying an Indigenous woman from the bayou🙄
@@Mimi-ht6xr my Mother told me the same. Because if I shave I can pass lol I live in Asia ppl think I’m white or Asian but they don’t know what are creole is so if I say black they don’t believe me😂😂
I swear I look john legend. I’m not that white 😂 back in America most ppl assume one of my parents is white one must be light.
Mom is Red with hazel eyes, Dad is Yellow with green eyes. I’m yellow / Red 😂 with hazel green eyes and blonde hair😂😂
My whole life has been a ten chat about why I look this way😂😂😂
Sometimes I’m I just can’t tho, I say “I’m Cerole, go google that!” 😂😂
To be honest I don’t know about “passing” as black but I totally understand her. I’ve had to tell people I’m Caribbean/ Central American (Belizean). I never had to growing up but now people just say the wildest stuff about people crossing the border when they think you’re all American. I’ve had to let people know don’t say stuff like that around me I take it personally. It’s a different feeling and it’s new to me on one hand I understand to some degree but on the other it’s a deep hurt. Like man what did we do? We just want a better life same as everyone else is that wrong? Now or days people make me feel like it is but ain’t that what the founders came here for a better life?Strange times we live in I hope this hate for Immigrants stops though I hate it and I bet thats how she felt when people talked ish about Black folk.
I'm half afro latino and half white american I'm mixed race but I look black I have brown skin and kinky hair so most people view me as black. Im technically "black passing"
I’ve experienced this same thing. I’ve had people say that they hate black people, only to learn that I am indeed black. Race is such a disgusting way to describe a human being.
It seems very confusing how someone that has to tell people they are black can actually consider themselves to be black. It's also ironic that many so called people of color seem to have adopted the "one drop rule" Which was used by white society to more easily suppress those with black heritage. It seems to me that many mixed race people are more color conscious than white people. Why not just refer to yourself as biracial? Is being part of a particular tribe so important?
I saw Adrian Piper‘s same art piece in 1999, and it changed my life. I saw it in Minnesota at the Walker Museum. My family is from Minnesota because they were Scandinavians lured to the “free” homestead farmlands there.
This sounds somewhat like colorism. Even if you look at light skinned Black people, historically, they have been more privileged than darker skinned people. Even if you look at Black leaders and famous people throughout history. They always highlight light skinned ones. Society has pit light vs dark against each other. There has also been a narrative that light skinned people thought they were better. It's a complicated history.
Light skinned/mixed people definitely have their own unique experience.
Also I feel like "passing" isn't the right term. They were considered Black because of the one drop rule. You have to remember that was the standard. I feel like "passing" is a term used to describe an action or lifestyle for survival. If someone is identifying as Black back in those days, it doesn't grant them any opportunity. Based on the standard back then, they were Black. That's who they were.
Piper in my opinion was just taking pride in who she was and her heritage. Not "passing." According to the standards of that day, that's who she was. As far as her relationship with darker skinned Blacks, that was more of a bullying situation which stems from colorism and the mistreatment of dark skinned people. They were being extremely defensive. But they knew that by the standards she was Black if she had a drop of Black blood. Honestly, I still go by that pretty much. Like if a mixed person chooses to identify as Black, I'm okay with it and I'm 35 . I've known people a 4th and an 8th Black and they consider themselves Black and that's fine with me 🤷🏾♀️
Yes I agree, "passing" feels like the wrong term. I couldnt place it, but that was a big issue I was feeling about it.
We need to separate light skin black from mixed race. Storm Reid is a light skin black person Adrian Piper is multi-generationally mixed who looks nearly white but can't pass fully as white in my opinion. She kinda looks Asian as well. Someone questioning your racial makeup is not bullying because people do have a right to know who they're sharing space with. Storm Reid would not be questioned about her blackness because she is mostly black looking and has majority black genetics. From what I read about Piper she grew up middle class and went to school with wealthy white kids of Manhattan at a private school. Her looking racially ambiguous definitely helped.
So true. There's a book titled the Sweeter the Juice by Shirley Taylor Haizlip. Her mom was raised as Black her other siblings as white. Her being light skin in DC attending the best schools she had a much more privileged adult life than her white siblings who identified as Irish, they had no connected family lineage they were poor and struggled. Shirley's mom married well-off her children were also light skin and lived a Black elite life.
I have cousins who present White but since they were raised in a Black family they identify as mixed race or Black
This comment nails it
Well you are in the minority now… most younger people don’t accept mixed people saying they are black.
Nowadays I see more dark skinned people behaving aggressively towards light skinned people. Colorism is just as bad as racism.
I had an Indian classmate when I was a kid, who passed for black. He kept his hair cut, and had no sort of accent, spoke perfect English. You can't know he's not black by looking at his facial features or skin tone.
So to answer your question, Indians can pass as black and have done it.
And also Mindy Kaling's brother.
Watch the movie 1984 with Adrien Broner and see how equivalent it is to how we live today and are easily convinced of what not to say. This is in reference to you questioning what u can verbalize in terms of identifying race…..Love u sis❤️💯
I will! NEVER seen that
My Mother was light complexioned. Some of my African friends would call her “a white woman”. I was always correcting them.
We had some relatives who passed for white and lived in California.
Many light complexioned people stayed behind and “proved” themselves by being active in the black community.
There is a big difference between having Black ancestry and being Black American or a Black immigrant, and then there is the Black Diaspora too. One would most likely have to be born in one of those respective communities with the experiences. People, don't matter the group, like to keep certain aspects of ancient cultures or contemporary cultures alive, along with ethnicities and experiences, that's just the way it is. A mixed person can reconnect to one group, but it takes research and understanding the roots. America is a melting pot, let's all respect "freedom of association".
I always love that you bring that up: freedom of association. something that needs to be talked about more.
@@nytn We all want to know if you're psychologically Black.......
We are very much alike. I started my ancestry journey after my grandma passed. We began finding outer mixed family members who were lost due to migration.
There’s a reality and concept of “exclusion” on both sides…you don’t act Black, so one can’t really be Black; you talk White…who do you think you are OR one isn’t Black enough for the community. Neither a truth. Deep frustrations!
The 2008 graphic novel "Incognegro" by Mat Johnson tells the fictional story of Zane Pitchback; a “white passing” African American who goes undercover in the 1930's South to report on lynching for an expose planned by the Harlem Newspaper he works for. Many of the ideas touched on in the story of Adrian Piper are brought up in both "Incognegro," and its prequel, "Incognegro: Renaissance;" which is set in 1920's Harlem.
Thanks for posting this video.
639th Like.
Sounds like it was based on Walter white!! Sounds interesting
Danielle, your content is wonderful. 🎉 Thank you once again!
I love your videos. Continue the great work you are doing.
When I was young I somehow got it into my head that I was somehow Jewish. Much later I checked my DNA and it showed some Jewish ancestry and I was pleased. As the DNA tests became more accurate my Jewish ancestry dissapeared. That's all... I don't have a specific point to make.
that’s what happened to me with west African results
At some point, I will send some monetary support. I'm old, not as in charge of my life as I used to be.
I'm delighted to have found your channel. I was exposed to various languages and cultures from early childhood. My Dad had a great fascination with local cultures. As a child, I remember travelling to several small towns and areas where the locals were not so "WASPy". Italian wine growers in Arkansas; Czech & German settlements in the Texas hill country; Tejano/Mejicano Norteño language & culture; and maybe closest to my heart, Louisiana Cajun and Creole culture, language and music. I speak a few languages to varying degrees of fluency. Of the three languages I speak best, none of them are foreign languages. Those being English (Texian, though standard classroom & TV English have taken a toll); Spanish (Tejano/Norteño); French (Cajun/Louisiana French).
So your channel has me hooked. There is one ethnic community that I was surprised not to find on your site. Have you done any research on the Black Seminoles? They started out as runaway slaves who escaped to the everglades, where over generations, they were absorbed culturally and linguistically into the Seminole community. It's too long a story to recount. Eventually, many (most?) managed to escape the Trail of Tears when they got to Texas/Louisiana border area. They made it to Mexico, where they are known as Mascogos (from Muskogee). Every year in the town of El Nacimiento, Coahuila, they hold a Juneteenth celebration in honor of their heritage. I'm curious to see what more you come up with on these people.
Love & encouragement ❤️- Chris SoRelle.
I don't know how the word "colored" which is a legal term on a birth certificate could be an offensive term. The word is a historical word. Someone is tripping on TH-cam. Keep up the good work. ✅👍🏾💯
I believe in RSA they still use “colored.”
It’s not the words “they” use but the punishment behind it
You tube censored my post if a newspaper clipping of my great grandfather sister Lucy Diggs Slowe scholarship award from the Baltimore Colored school as offensive! White folks are offended by seeing USA censuses with slaves and slave schedules from the first 1790 up to 1860 when the Civil War broke out!
Agreed! Thirteen years ago, at the age of 38, a co-worker presented her Washington, D.C. birth certificate; it stated "colored." Growing up Black in Canada I was consistently called colored; my birth certificate states Black. I have family members that look White but, their mothers are Black. They too struggled with identity. Not white enough, not black enough. Identity has been cemented into skin color. And the legacy of slavery has assured that we continuously confront ourselves in the mirror of others. You are not calling anyone colored; you are telling a story about facts. It makes no sense that your videos are flagged. However, we've entered a decade of censorship, sad.
It shouldn't be illegal. I am a Cape Coloured. Here in South Africa, we genuinely don't care massively about race at all.
Regarding the "I am black" card:
I can relate. I'm a Jew. I've been in situations where people hadn't known that and were making jokes or comments that were insensitive at best and antisemitic at worst. I can "pass," but I don't want to. I say my truth - and have caused others to rethink what they think and say. There is no place in this world for incivility. Disparagement breeds hatred and othering. Let's all live in peace.
Shalom.
Thank you for this comment.❤
Mikve Israel❤
Same bro, I’m a creole Jew my skin is yellow like Red Fox or James Earl Jones. My whole family looks this way with the exception of darker people being more copper colored with red hints even myself, I have a very strong red undertone.
I’ve grown to make it know but being Sephardic growing around Ashkenazi Jews I was actually treated with love never felt like an outsider until I moved from Cali and realized Jews didn’t accept me until they realized I speak Hebrew and know all prayers😂 that’s when I stop going to Schul (Shul).
@kingalpha4203 We're all brothers/sisters: (Psalm 133:1)
Hinei ma tov u'ma na'im, shevet achim gam yachad!
(How good & pleasant it is that brothers dwell together. )
I wasn’t aware of the art installation, but I’d read Adrian Piper’s essay a long, long time ago, when I was starting to explore my own identity, and it stuck with me. It’s worth everyone seeking out and reading for themselves.
As someone who is mixed but doesn’t identify any other particular way, parts of her story made me uncomfortable and question the way I move through the world. But that’s what good art does, doesn’t it?
First off how are we defining "Black?" Who makes the rules? Was Rosa Parks "black" enough? What about Francis White? The "One Drop Rule" made a lot of people with mixed ancestry in the U.S. "Black?" There was serious repercussions if you were found out to be "passin" during Jim Crow days. My grand uncle could "pass" for "white" but chose not to but let people think he was "white" if it was advantageous to him. His mother was of mixed ancestry and his "father" was someone who had his way with a young teenager in the 1900s when people perceived as "black" had no rights. My grand uncle's culture and identity was of this idea of "Blackness" although his skin tone showed otherwise.
Being mixed with a lot of stuff confuses people. I am Mexican and Jewish American and DNA added other things. One of the things a person said was I am black and white even though I told them no. Or this woman said, no you're not you are ashamed of being Arab so, take off that star of David. And I have never worn one since 30 years. And most Latino say because I am mixed that I am not a Latina. Even though my mom was born in Mexico City.
The USA is a great experiment. Re passing for black, I think it does make a difference if one was raised fully in a black community. It builds confidence when speaking to outsiders. Although there may be questions, still there also exist some tenacity and disregard somehow. Anyway, thanks for sharing your journey! Btw are you continuing the Passing series?
yes! I need to do that next episode! i had it recorded, and the audio was all messed up and I had to throw the whole video out.
This discussion was intriguing, I do think you can pass for black, just like you can pass for white or any other race. ❤❤❤
There probably just aren’t as many people passing for black.
We enjoy your channel. Don't get it taken down because of stubbornness or stupidity. Work within the system as you find it. Getting your videos flagged and your channel taken down will not benefit anyone. Words by themselves don't change reality. America hasn't been changed by labels. Change has come through commitment, determination, struggle, suffering and perseverance. Be Smart, Stay Strong!
This is wise, thank you
First, ur not stupid or stubburn, this is truth. It's funny "colored" is being flagged when we had "colored" bathrooms, "colored" schooles and "colored" people but now we say colored, it's offensive??? So what the hell was it when u slaugthered, and enslaved our people and LABEL3D us peoples colored?? This is insane.
I’m a biracial historian who, like you, learned through documentation like birth certificates and marriage certificates of family members that race has a complex history. My father is so called black by appearance but is born of first Indian, then it changed to colored, then eventually negro ancestors (in that order by generation). My mother is German and Melungeon and would be considered white. There is nothing scientific about race. It’s really just for purposes of categorizing. Terms like black and white I believe are for people knowingly or unknowingly participating in a caste system. If you haven’t already, I think you should look up Walter Plecker and the creation of the population census. I became a contributor to your Patreon as Rasul Amaru (my music production account). Please keep up the excellent work.
Oh it is great to connect on here! Thank you. I bet you and I can have some exchanges on this topic. I did a video a little on Walter Plecker a year or so ago, I'll link it! th-cam.com/video/ij1ILWT0P4M/w-d-xo.html
There are concrete differences between people from different regions of the earth. Racism and race are artificial, but different ethnicities are not artificial nor imaginary. Pretending people aren't actually different doesn't help racism. It furthers racism by insisting that people's differences are imaginary and can be modified at will to satisfy supremacy.
As a biracial peraon with a black parent and a white parent i think theres a big difference between acknowledging your black ancestry and claiming to be black yourself. Blackness is a certain experience, especially in america, and we dont need to let everyone call themselves black just to let people claim a black ancestor.
ETA: This is pretty close to the way I have seen it as well. Adrian's work definitely made me revisit some stuff
I don't think anyone needs to police others on how they want to identify. If they want to identify as Black that is their choice. I feel they should identify as mixed or biracial depending on their DNA. I don't think it is fair to their ancestors to deny that heritage. The world would be a much better place if people would stop trying to control others and just worry about themselves.
I appreciate your perspective. It's a cultural thing, not just melanin.
@@timeforchange3786 Yes to a degree we do because people who are only 8% black trying to get minority grants or trying to speak on behalf of black Americans is problematic. Being black is a history and an experience you can't join it when you feel like it. I have white ancestors but I don't claim to be Irish or English or French.
I feel that the complexity of identifying yourself when one is a mixed person, is undeniable. We are also an undeniable part of the painful history of colonialism, racism. colorism and identity. Adrian Piper whose work I discoverd in my late twenties has been an inspiration ever since. I met Adrian Piper in the early 1990s in Paris, at an art conference abt Black artists and Paris. She looked like a mixed race person to me.
I'm African American, And I Hope One Day, Peopke Will Just Accept Each Other, For Who They Are As People, Instead Of What Color, Race, Or Ethnicity They Are Part Of. Racism, And Colorism, Is HATRED!!! CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??? 😮😮😮
You must not be a real Black American because if you knew the history of what them folks did to us Black people in America you wouldn't even want to get along with them until they make things right
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@@tommygunn2782Unless Our Hearts Change, Our World Won't Change!!!
Unfortunately that's not how the world. Black people have to accept how the world works and operate accordingly. Be respectful and just to all mankind, but, we have to do for us to overcome the ills of racism. What other societies do is on them.
@@Galidorquest
Brazil reportdely has arguably more stark racist hierarchy in terms of people's socioeconomic standing.
I can see how this really impacts you, Danielle. In the case of Ms. Piper, it must have been like growing up with Narcissistic parents not being fully accepted by anyone and feeling like you were NEVER good enough. I am sure that is still a pervasive feeling for her today.
PS OMG I love your T-shirt!!!
PPS I lived in Nash for a bit. Now back in STL. Wish I’d known you while I was there. ❤
No one is actually physically the color Black or White for that matter. Being Black in America is a social and political identification, It’s also an amalgam of shared experiences between Africans in their captive homeland over the centuries that formed our vast culture. “ If you really Black, can’t nobody tell you different” cause you wear it with pride and you’re down with the cause. Ask Homer Plessy, or Adam Clayton Powell, or Thurgood Marshall….
And being white is a legal classification and nothing else
All those people were mixed race misidentified as majority African. Of course they fought hard. They wanted to be free of race attached chains of oppression!
I’m a 67-yr old white historian, and my girlfriend is Black, from Atlanta. Her great, great grandfather, who had been enslaved, inherited land from his master/ex-master, which is still in her family. Her family uses the word “colored”. We haven’t declared as a couple yet, but they knew she had a new boyfriend. Her aunt asked if he was colored, and she said no. That was all right with her aunt.
As an historian (UCLA 1979), I believe in relating history honesty, in all its complexity and ugliness. Otherwise, we won’t understand it. If we sugarcoat it, we’ll only get a sugar high, which will delude us into believing what we want to believe. I have studied the question of race in this country (and throughout the world) extensively. Racism manifests in different ways in different countries, depending on the culture. The United States is the only country with the “one-drop rule”…one drop of Black blood makes you Black, even if you’re overwhelmingly Irish and German and French…as if one drop of Black blood pollutes the whole bucket of white blood.😡
I was once put in FB jail for using the term “st*p*d wh*te tr*sh”. I wasn’t referring to the previous commentator, but to the video that was posted on the thread. They told me it was hate speech. They seem to equate the WT word with the N word…as if there’s an equivalence between the two. So I Latinized the phrase (knowing that it was unlikely that the algorithm had studied Latin): “Detritus of Caucasian origin, and deficient in cognitive abilities.”
why do you think it's ok to make a racial slur? is it ok to make a racial slur about white people? why is it ok? why do feel the need to mention your black girlfriend? how is it relevant to your comment? since you yourself are white, do you think you are a self-hating white person? why do you hate what you are? white people created the modern world. the world would be a much poorer, more dangerous, less developed place without white people, don't you think? white people ended slavery, and many died doing so. Africans still practice slavery today in 2024.
I think its so beautiful to be what ever we are. my granny(94) said her father (Mobile ,Al) said they were Indian but had to identity as many had to as negro, changing their identity. Its often so sad to not be able to identify with who you are and hold on to anything of culture because each generation looses info. Thank you for sharing your research and family with us
You have relatives from my hometown of Monroe Louisiana. Louisiana born and raised
yes! Love getting to visit them down there
My cousin's father was white and she never met him. Her mother, my aunt now deceased was a dark skinned black woman. She is your complexion but will tell you she's black. She and I have discussed her being white passing and she scoffs at it. She has black female friends and white female friends. I've walked past her in a sea of white people and she had to say my name to get my attention. She's never struggled with her identity and won't allow anyone to question it.
Technically she was right. The complexion of the person shouldn't matter 😢
I can see it in my family, but the most famous example of what you are describing is Tiger Woods on Oprah
I might be surprised if I found out there was a black ancestor somewhere. I'd be more curious and intrigued to learn about it. But others in my family would be mortified. Most of that generation is gone though 😮😊
Black is a crayon name country called Black
That’s how I’ve been seeing it lately too lol
@@nytn and yeah they need to quit calling themselves White because they are not the color of the ceiling in your house again name a country called White
So is white, what point are you really making?
@@SlugSage you people are not white stop lying to the world
You got that right! Black and White are crayon colors period!
Yes…my father is a dark skin Indian and was told by ‘blacks’ that he wasn’t ’black’ but he was not white to the white folks at all!
Interesting, had an ex who had dark skin tone, but could also easily pass as native american, (she was stunning by the way haha). Seems its very complicated.
What's funny some people in India are just as dark as some people who are considering black American.
Indians are Caucasians.
LOVE That's your showing your natural hair now. So am I! Isn't it beautiful😃
She's mixed. Many blacks and whites mix, and
usually are half and half. It was the prejudices of the era that caused some people to hide their race.
🗣️ I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL ❣️ You work is so valuable, thank you 😊❤️
Tudor the Turtle repeatedly heard from Mar. Lizard the Wizard, “Be what you is, not what you is not. Folks what does this is the happiest lot.”
It resonated this video. I am not American, I’m British and sort of mixed heritage and have always had to explain myself. It is also complicated because almost certainly along the line women were the unnamed brown people whose history we can never recover, yet there I go having to explain my existence in all sorts of ways. I also do not really belong, not really white and only part brown, but what was that brown identity? It’s not recoverable.
There’s a famous case from South Africa that has some relevance. An apparently white family had a daughter and son with some African characteristics, it was the daughter whose existence created controversy. Her name I believe was Sandra. As she grew up she identified more with being black, she found some acceptance there. As her parents conceived both these children together Itnis assumed that they both had some black ancestry… look it up if you have not heard of it, you will find a video. I have known of this case for decades. Most of the people concerned are no longer alive but people still argue about it. I have heard of others who passed for something other than white, but not in the American context….. I can tell you though if you want to be mixed then that’s a difficult place, it’s almost as if there isn’t a space there for us! But we exist in increasing numbers.
Sandra Laing of South Africa. There was a movie and book about her.
Other channels face censorship, too, unrelated to r^ce or ethnicity. Connie Knox, who has the Genealogy TV channel and some other channels, one called NC Genealogy, had her NC Genealogy channel shut down by TH-cam because of some videos about the Civil W^r. Apparently, the word "W^r" is being flagged. She had them do a manual review, and I think that she eventually got her NC Genealogy channel back, but it continues to be a real concern for history channels in general.
Keep up the good work. Your videos are excellent.
That card she would give to others to announce her racial identity. That was a Boss move! It's something that I can see my mother doing. She would loudly proclaim that she was a Black Woman when anyone got it twisted! 😊 She too had an ambiguous appearance but her features were somewhat afrocentric (full lips, high cheeks, almond eyes). She was lovely ❤ Her spirit was lively😅
Thank you for sharing the story of Adrian Piper! As to the notion of passing for black, Phoebe Snow is a singer who is often thought to be black despite knowing herself to be white, the same can be said of singer Tom Jones. In both cases fans say they sound and look black. I think the reason people feel the need to pigeonhole people's ethnic background goes back to the European colonists who were obsessed with class and went on to include ethnicity in their caste system where brown folks were automatically at the bottom. Edward Ball who wrote Slaves in the Family about his slave owning ancestors who had children with their slaves, he spoke about tracking down descendants of those slaves who upon looking at him recognized the family resemblance despite Edward looking very white indeed. Super interesting topic.
I recall the local newspaper article on the remarkable Captian Michael A. Healy in the 1870's following the Civil War. I don't recall if Michael went to the local black school here that was built in the middle of Downtown Macon in 1865. Besides, He quit school at an early age due to name calling so, his oldest sibling advised him to get a job in Savannah working as a deck hand and he did so prior to his brother's occupation as the curator of a Catholic Church in Chicago. His older sister became Sister Mary Magdalene. His Irish father & former Plantation working mother is buried at the local golf course. The black school was here until 1942 until the construction of the local hospital. In that same year some movie producers found his grandson in San Francisco because they were interested in making a movie about his grandfather Captain "Hell Roaring" Michael A. Healy... the first Marshall of the Pacific Ocean I might add.
Michael's Grandson still had his Grandfather's log books. When his wife realized her husband was half black, she threw the log books in the fire. Michel Healey himself lived in San Francisco during it's famous fire and devastating earthquake in 1906.
Good evening neighbor lady!!😊😊
happy monday :D
All humans are "mixed", it's who we are. The racial problems in this country stem from the guilt and discomfort of race based slavery. "Love your neighbor as yourself" shows that those looking down on others have a low estimation of themselves. The difficulty in this country is that the original legal framework understood humans as humans, but the economy relied on slavery.
We are all mixed with what? In reality from a biological perspective, there are only two types of people on the planet melanated and non-melanated. Melenation can vary from high to very low. So what does this mixed concept mean? Melanated people mixed with non-melanated people?
@@yawanzabey6288 A survival, variety is necessary in the genepool. We all are of mixed heritage - different ethnic groups, sub-groups, nations, tribes, clans, families, etc. There's more than one ingredient in gumbo...
There are so many things that could be said about this, ...so many that trails it makes my head hurt. But I think one thing that could be gleaned is the need to teach our kids and ourselves to learn to recognize our own inner voice. Some Elders call it our drum. People are always going to be around to tell us who we "are" from their own world, but if we know our own song, we can recognize that others' projections really have nothing to do with us.
The boxes that label us mean nothing to me. Color ethnicity either. This helps me see how others feel and understand others around me. I appreciate what you're accomplishing.. My belief is God makes us all. Why can't we accept that? And get along.
We had a lovely young couple for neighbors in Southern Illinois. Both were of mixed ethnicity (who isn't, right?) She recounted a conversation with her white mother when she was still quite young, who asked if she wanted to have a white husband or if she would marry a black man like her father. She retorted, "I'm going to marry someone brown, like me!" Perfect answer. I happy that she found a great young man from a good family who was brown, like her...
Not always, the "coloreds" of South Africa and the Boyla redbones in the South were used as a buffer class against the Blacks.
Yes, mixed ethnicity. When did ethnicity become conflated with race? I'm so old that the taxonomic nomenclature called us mammalian animals; race: HUMAN. Are we no longer the Human Race?
@MarleneJonesCannon Maybe it was an ancient evil that conspired to divide us. Maybe a primal fear that overcomes child-like curiosity and triggers a hyper protective and/or competitive response. Who knows? In our times at least, racism is akin to superstition; either shameful ridiculous or seemingly self confirming. I think our (Melungeon, Creole, Redbone, Mulatto) courageous ancestors, those who saw with their hearts more than their eyes, were ahead of the curve.
Interesting conceptual artist, good on her for challenging the ridiculousness of racial preconceptions and race itself.
She is such an out of the box thinker, in so many ways
Throigh this video, i am trying to hold back tears and an emotional outburst and im taking this as i need to not give up and dig to find my truths... To hear this truths?? I cant even explain my thoughts but i am soo overwhelmed but i thank you so much for this
I think Brazil calls Adrian Piper Preta Clara or something. I think Latin America used to have terms to deeply define racial categories. She looks 1/4 black. If she passed for white she would be questioned about her race because she doesn't look fully look white. If we had a racial category like Mexico used to she would be something like Morisco a light skin person who had a mixed parent and a white parent.
We enjoy your channel. Don't get it taken down because of stubbornness or stupidity. Work within the system as you find it, to hopefully change it. As a Black person I know words by themselves don't change reality. Our experience in America hasn't been changed by the labels we have had over generations. Change has come through commitment, determination, struggle, suffering and perseverance.
Your grandmothers family story models my motherand myself.
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I appreciate you sharing your exploration into your ancestry and family history. I can understand you wanting to use accurate language including the “C” word (I guess it’s come to that) in your segment. Your family story is very similar to my family story, esp the not passing decisions which I’ve always been proud of my grandmother and her siblings for not doing. TH-cam is suppressing oppressive American history to blur the facts which is supporting the conservative agenda of banning uncomfortable history.
I strongly encourage the YT powers that be meet with expert black and other non-white historical and social experts to reassess this intrusive decision.
Keep exploring!
This is such an interesting topic. As an ethnically mixed Black person, I went through some of what Adrian Piper went through within the Black community, despite the fact that my mom is Black is the primary person who raised me. My Blackness was often put into question by other Black people, usually my peers at school until my mom, grandpa, or uncle picked me up from school, or showed up for some other reason. Keep in mind, I'm very much a brown person with dark curly hair, so I never could "passe blanc". Often times people assumed I was Puerto Rican.
On the flip side, I was met with a lot of racism from White people while I was growing up, from my teachers and peers alike.
At some point during my teen years, I experienced some level of understanding and acceptance from my peers in the Black community, but I think a lot of that had to do with maturity and understanding that my being mixed doesn't negate or erase my Blackness, especially since we had so many shared experiences culturally with our upbringing (again, I was raised by a Black woman in a Black family since my parents divorced when I was so young, and I don't have a relationship with my father's family, who happen to be White).
However, a few times in adulthood, I experienced my Blackness being put under scrutiny by total strangers. It was initially annoying, but I decided that no one can qualify or quantify my background and ancestry. I know who I am, I know the people I come from. Funny thing is, I've never hidden my identity, was ashamed or lied about it. So it was often off putting to me to have my identity questioned.
I think it's incredibly offensive for someone to think it's acceptable to classify another person's heritage or ethnicity. Unless someone is "passing" like a Rachel Dolezal type, their ethnicity doesn't need to be questioned.
By the way, circling back to Black people who passed during the Jim Crow era as a way to survive, like your great grandmother, I would suggest looking up Lena Horne. When she was first entering Hollywood, it was suggested to her that she pass as a White by some exec or agent because of how fair she was. She decided not to because she was proud of her background and never hid the fact that she was Black. She'd be an interesting person to talk about in relation to "passing" or not during that time period, especially since there are a few actresses who did.
One final note, your hair looks great! It seems you've found products or techniques that work for you! I recall you talking about your hair several videos back and what that journey has been like for you. You look wonderful.
First, thank you for sharing this, I actually decided to copy your comment down and save it for video planning!
And the hair, THANK YOU! I just cut off the last damaged 4-5 inches and I think it's finally "back"! I hated losing the length but I forgot how great it is to just have healthy hair.
@@nytnthank you! Glad to be a contributing person. 😊
I understand not wanting to lose her length, but the health is the payoff. Your hair really does great!
The crime was so heinous that the jurors were instructed to picture the defendant as a 20 year old black man.
Hide ya race y'all🤣
Smart honest stuff.
Yes! So real! This is an everyday struggle of people always asking me of my Ethnicity. And being an Afro-Mexican, I find myself never fully being seen as one of them. (from both sides). It's a completely alienating place to be. Other Latinos only see my Blackness, and Black Americans only see my Latin side. Being "mixed" or "mult-racial", you always have to deal with being denied your "heritage" and it's always FROM BOTH SIDES. Not just one. Sometimes I feel like biracial people experience a "double-edged" sword of "prejudice".
Thank you for introducing me to Adrian Piper , I too would have been identified as an Octaroon during the times of Jim Crow,. The climate here in Canada while different proves to have many similarities, thank you for sharing your journey it has served as a beautiful kind of support to me during a difficult time of self re-discovrry.
There was some Jim Crow segregation in Canada
In the Caribbean where I come from there's actually a lot of this, especially when you consider how racially intermixed the good number of the people are.
I'm from the Caribbean/South-America too. Afro-Chinese&Afro-Jewish-European father, White- European mother. You can imagine my family has a range from white-blue eyed-blonde to dark Brown-all kinds of curls-Black hair skin types. Culturrally I am part of two cultures. So I identify as mixed in every possible way. Visiting the Southern U.S. , moving around in the Black community, I was immediately identified as Caribbean, even before explaining my identity.
I can sooooo tell that you're black (at least at your roots). I'm from a similar type family but I'm on the opposite end and I am undeniably and proudly black. It is a sick dichotomy here in the states on the subjects of race, and skin color, hair type and eye color etc. I'm happy that you acknowledge your true self irregardless! You probably feel some pity for those who are totally blind an ignorant to their ethnicity too but I really doubt that you'd ever mark the Black box when applying for a job, loan, insurance, etc. or if you ever have ("the suffering"). Personally I don't know if there are RIGHT answers but the TRUTH is a start. Thanks, for telling the truth and acknowledging you ancestry and thus your ancestors ;I'm sure they're smiling upon you, especially your voiceless and silenced African ancestors.
I take the easy way out and never check a box. Im trying to get used to making videos without a neatly wrapped moral at the end :D
@@nytnyou look like a Mulatto. If you don't mind me asking, what products do you use on your hair?
I'm mixed race. All my ancestors that I know of were also mixed. My skin is light brown but I can't call myself black, because I didn't grow up in a culture where people are categorized by race.
I am at least twice as old as you, maybe more. I do not remember black being used when I was young. I remember the other words like on drinking fountains etc. So the black power movement was around when I started hearing black, not wanting to be called things that had to do with slavery etc. Your family is mixed. they had their own names. trying to make someone one thing or another doesn't really make sense. I paint and I understand why there is Red, yellow, black and white., there are undertones in peoples skin tones you can also use green and blue sometimes. Most are not just black or white. Paul in the Bible said I am to the Jews a Jew, and to the Greeks a Greek. I try to relate to people and talk to them about what I have in common with them.
Wow wow wow wow. I am in serious tears, i cant even...
This is a complicated subject Danielle. In the earlier part of this century , I watched an interview with a Jewish man who worked for the State Dept. in North Africa. He said in those countries there attitudes toward sub-Saharan Africans varied from one country to another. I was surprised when he said that the country where they had the most hatred toward Black people was Libya. I can`t remember which country ( Morocco , Tunisia , Algeria ) he said was the least anti-Black.
Hi. Your comment reminded me of a scene from a post 9/11 TV-movie. There was a scene where the FBI staff were interviewing their Egyptian informant. That informant served in Egypt's military before migrating to the US. He told the story of a politician wherein the "elders" said the politician had bad blood/ black blood and they tried to bleed the "blackness" out of him. It may be fictional but I think it states how North Africans generally feel about their Sub Saharan brothers.
@@kitty_s23456 as a sub Saharan African. We are not brothers with those desert dwellers
Controversial WHAT!! The truth will set you free!!
I am multirracial, yes, my phenotypes are more akin to native american, and its what I identify the most. However I know for a fact, that if I let my beard grow, in some angles I would look like a Spaniard.
Or you would look Arab. A lot of Latinos have Middle Eastern DNA from the Ottoman Empire that took over Southern Europe.
I'm white but of multiethnic heritage. I live in Europe where you are identified for what you look like and nobody questions about that. But there's the other side of the coin. If you are mixed you will always be what you appear to be. I mean, if you look more white, you'll be seen as white for the rest of yr life and if you look more blk, ppl will always see you as blk, no matter how and what you FEEL you are. For example even if I am mixed, since my appearence is white I have to identity as such, whether I like it or not.
I love your commentaries. MLK famous dream of a world where one is not judged by the color of their skin....but the content of their character. How so, this plays out for all races, Now it seems that it is not the "color" of the skin, but the culture of the one who wears the skin. Hmm. My mother was biracial, multiracial? Her mother was White, but her family called it Creole and they were white, but passed for Creole/black people, passing as white. My grandfather, her husband was Black and Italian American. His mother was Italian and father was Black. He grew up as an orphan and did not know his culture. What did they look like? My grandmother reminded me of your grandmother. Very fair, almost white? She was white, but her family passing for Black as Creoles. How interesting. My mother struggled in her own racial identity, she was the "red headed step child". She was "white" for all intent an purposes because of DNA. But she was raised as a "black person". So as she grew up , she said she was bullied because of the color of her skin. The incredible lightness of being. She stayed out in the Sun. A raisin in the sun is just at sweet. The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice. She told this to me. So, as a child I witnessed her constantly color over her pretty red hair, and try to either straighten the curl or make it more coily so that she could wear a big Afro and look like Angela Davis Twin sister. My dad was Black. No inter racial family members, and I have scoured the family trees. But my mom raised me and my brother as Black people. No problem. But she struggled with her own sense of self. Its funny, in my own adult life I have only had inter racial relationships. My first and second husband identified as "White". One Puerto Rican white and one Anglo Saxon white? But I found a lot of inter racial families within each of them. So I guess I could ask, what is white and what is black. Those who protest, I feel tend at "gatekeeping" a culture of a specific race of people. The color of one's skin is surely not a "race". Race was something that was devised to cause division, that has led us here and now. Thank you for being brave to confront these things.
I just found one black person, a few ancestors who were half-Black, and some Native Americans in my background several generations back. Like - all the way back to the 1600 and 1700s. In one way, it's a relief, because I now have an answer to: Why is your skin so dark? But, I don't know that I get to identify as Black, and... these days, I feel like that would be an asset, because so many people are mad at White people. Still, I have to admit, not only my black origins, but also the slave ownership background of my several of my ancestors. I was very happy to tell my half-Chinese daughter about it, but it feels a little weird to tell other people. There's just so much 'stuff,' mostly in the realm of the mind, about race.
From reading your, you're clearly white. l9l You look white and think white. And you don't really want to be on the black side at all, you just want sympathy for being white which is common for that side, no matter how much better they have it than others and no matter how much their societyhelp bring h3ll to others, particularly to black people.
Again, you're white. Just be you. I hope this helped.
AN ASSET??????? WTAF
One should NEVER apologize for one's ethnic backgrounds, it's all good! Don't let narrow minded bigots define you😀🇺🇲.
I have been working my Geniology, i can only go back to my 3rd GG 1607 , Clementine Brown from the Ouashita people of Louisiana. Her Husband was also her slave master...that where i get my last names from Warren Alford.
i sure i can go further if i go to Louisiana and hire a Geniologist.
Blackness in the US has never been about genetics or phenotype. It was historically about having a shared culture. It was also about a legal status based on the one drop rule. Framing the question "Can you pass for Black?" requires a different rubric than answering "Can you pass for white?." Passing for white is purely based on the genetic dice roll. Some in my family can pass but others can not. Can one appropriate Black culture, yes. This is not that.
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There is no way to verify a drop. All humans have African homo sapien DNA so caucasians also have a drop
Nicely explained.
That's a really interesting perspective... So are we saying that the shared experience of being "othered" _IS_ Black Culture? Outside of that shared experience within American Culture, there really isn't anything else that unites African Americans, so you can't really artificially approximate that aspect? Like... You can pass for white, try to blend, and even pretend to be racist. But you can't _PRETEND_ to make police more suspicious of you when you're driving at night?
@@THE_Dodge_Morningstar -We- I did not say "the shared experience of being othered is Black culture." I said nothing of the sort.
yes. Rachel isnt the only 1.