King of Knights Alfred is in no way bad. Comparing units on a clan basis has been showing to be more and more pointless, but not completely... we can say Waterfall is stronger than Alfred, but Waterfall is a Kagero card, designed to be played in Kagero. Clan identity is such an important factor that is easily being ignored. It's like comparing vanilla ice-cream to strawberry ice-cream. Sure they're both ice-cream, but they clearly taste different. The same thing can be said about the clans.
Guardian285 I'm perfectly okay with Alfred not being a finisher (Even though I wish it was) MY problem with Alfred is that it doesn't help you get your goal, which is to have 5 soul. The restriction on only calling Blaster Blade (Which is a card that Soul Blast) hurts this card the most.
I have never compared Alfred to waterfall because it’s like you they are from different clans and I’m starting to warm up to Alfred now that I look at it but I just wish that his first skill could have been more generic so you could call anything because that’s what royals do they excel at filling the field fast by using different skills and KoK Alfred could have been a huge comeback from a field wipe if that makes any sense
Well I’d say the 10k power is a lot easier to get and this one can be boosted but I do see what you’re on about if you lose blaster blade the new Alfred becomes very vanilla where as the old Alfred could just replace that unit and still gain power
What makes KOK Alfred good and something I don't see many people mentioning, is the fact that he is an easy 23k WITHOUT having to put your force gift on VG. Which means that he allows you to put Force on RG circles without losing the magic 23k, while Kagero pretty much are obligated to put it on VG to make most of their effects. And like you said, it's a early ~ midgame boss that can build you field, create pressure, allow you to put Force on RGs, and prepare you for Soul Saver Dragon as the finisher.
I have to agree with what you said. Royal Paladin overall is different from Kagero, so it's not too far fetched that the bosses would reflect those differences.
Dhiyauddin Aiman thats why Soul Saver Dragon is there to help. The true finisher for RP atm. Tho it would be tough to put up the souls for SSD. In Premium, G3 Llew is there to recycle BB, hoping in the next set for Standard. BB will get a recycle engine to make it more consistent.
Unless somebody combines it with the legion skill for king of knights Vanguard that Legions with king of knights Alfred. one would be able to actually make it a you were going to die this turn combo. Premium for the win.
i would say alfred has it strong point since judging by it skill it can carry you until mid game with soul saver to finish it off. kagero on the other hand is very pressure heavy such as dragonic overlord with it's consistent "if you don't guard you're dead"(applying this term in standard format only) and with dragonic waterfall skill it makes your opponent being put into a corner kinda situation from guarding overlord attack.so yeah, it all comes down to one thing,each clan have it's own strong point.RP With it's rearguard power creeping attack,Kagero with it's consistent pressure and ETC. (SIDE NOTE:- Alfred looks dope)
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Edit, still, there is an interesting matter in terms of deckbuilding for RP because of the lack of CC, because until now there is no single unit. So you could arguably build a Soul Saver based deck without even using this unit considering Pongal und Funegal. Conjurer of Mithril, Blaster both cost soul, which yeah, you can get back through pongal, but there are some bites in card Design that make me wonder what the best compromise will be, but then again we have no full spoiler yet.
I think it's pretty good, people always have that knee jerk reaction after seeing the other skills, kinda reminds me of when Winning Champ was revealed. After contemplating the ability a bit and basically the turn you use his ability; it's like you got 2.5 force markers, the actual force marker you can stick on a rg, his own 10k boost from the cont and 5k that blaster blade gets, it's a lot of value for very little commitment and it's very hard to deal with if the royal player follows up from a BB G2 rush.
I really enjoy how standard is slowly but surely making each clan have their own unique identity compared to the early vanguard days. A lot of people complained about waterfall skill being better than alfred but it's just that you all are comparing the wrong cards. Waterfall should be compared to soul saver while this alfred should be compared to dragonic overlord.
Hmmm...honestly, I can't really say right now. G era basically corrupted my mind on what defines a strong vanguard, with game-breaking effects that basically turn decks into a "win button" situation (see stuff like dust, or rinne for example). My opinion is that royals are gonna try rushing kageros (especially now with the new blaster critical gaining skill) before they can set up the finishing move with waterfall, while kagero are gonna try to counter rush royals with retiring, and maybe some pressure with overlord. I don't think I am the only one thought, that thinks the vr and rrr spot for royals should have been inverted, soul saver as a vr makes sense, while alfred feels more like a rrr.
I think the reason Alfred is VR is because he's not essential to getting the job done, Soul Saver Dragon is and that's why I thinks it's a lower rarity. It could help with budget.
True KOK Alfred, need rg before. but now need BB...... TD Alfred is good in Premium TLDR : It's A VR and a very expensive one....... God I can see the Price now..... prepare your wallet.
I’m running the Trial Alfred and KOK Alfred along with Soul Saver. I feel as if that would be a good grade 3 setup with X4 Alfred Early X2 KOK Alfred X2 Soul Saver.
I want a video on what each of these clans do so i can pick a playstyle as a new player, or atleast have an idea of the play styles!..... also as a new player i see it like this,waterfall is better the turn you play it, boom all its power is thrown at your opponent turn one, while Alfred is better if the turn after you down ride another vanguard. its value goes up over time.
Alfred seems super strong just not a finisher. The biggest thing holding the deck back is no countercharge (as of yet) and every good card costing counterblast
I am reading many comments on how if there is no BB on field this is a vanilla. True, don't get me wrong, but from the few game I saw using the new cards, games usually end before the fourth blaster blade even hits the field. Remember, the same can be said for waterfall, if the opponent has no g3 to soulblast he is even more of a vanilla. Sure, his active turn is incredibly strong, but if the opponent survives it, he either has to reride ANOTHER waterfall, wich he may or may not have, to have back the same pressure. It is basically the same deal with soul saver. One time big skills that wins you the game or leaves you with very few alternatives.
If Alfred had an extra crit depending on the number of rears even without the guard restrict, I think that would make the card even more ideal overall. In comparison to waterfall, it truly does not offer that much finishing power. Soul Saver does seem to be the finisher of the deck atm. However, the fact that Alfred can reach a total of 53k power in total with gift, skill and two triggers is scary by itself. Therefore, Alfred may not be the best card overall, but we will find purposes for it for sure and it will still for sure be a 4 of in Royal decks. To conclude, the card could have been way worse. As a Royal player I am happy with the card (that extra crit would have been nice tho XD )
My problem with this Alfred is the Alfred early from the trail deck does the job nearly as well, it's not that I expect a finisher I expect a vr level card
the difference between early and KOK is that early gives you a powerful play for 1 turn and then it turns to a vanilla 13k base. while KOK gives you a solid vg attacker for the whole midgame while in the same time letting you add the gift markers to rgs rather than vg, which is what you want for a rp deck
ali abdulelab it's kind of settled in a bit more now, it just feels underwhelming in comparison, it's still a good card but improvements such as letting it summon any card or giving extra power or damage on a full field wouldn't make it op, then again as the game goes later as long as you keep riding it will get a lot scarier
I dont know but don't think that all finishers have to be vrs and midgame g3s have to be rrr. it looks good to me tbh however I have 2 problems with it 1- relying on only 1 unit to get the extra +10k, which might lead to having no other blaster blade in the deck, so turning it to a vanilla 2- and this is not only on this unit but on the royal paladin deck as a whole. the deck uses a lot of cb without having any means of cc, so I'm not sure if the deck will be able to compete with the rest if we didn't get any cc skills
The thing nobody is talking about is the fact that with bb on the field, that makes him a necessary target to keep forcing the rp player to use a counter blast. Yeah, Kagero has the advantage of not needing to attack him, but the other clans will have to waste an attack at bb and he's a 10k base, so that attack will have to come from a boosted or powered up rearguard. One more thing to think about. And overall, yeah Kagero is just a bad match up for royal paladins, because it has always been a difficult match up.
#notificationsquad i think it's better than it looks, it's the classic alfred who call and attack for Xmilion. Waterfall is just better than every other VR and ok, but alfred is still good
Well lets see but KOK Alfred is Pretty good in Premium you could legion it with Ezzel to set your field real quick with Ezzel and Alfred's Skill so next turn you could try using the new Soul Saver to Finish you opponent off. But still excited for standard specially the AqF support.
i think kok alfred is better than waterfall because you can go into kok alfred on your first g3 and get up to 33k no problem whereas waterfall you need to already have a grade 3 to get it off up to that 33k + 1 crit there isnt much search and draw so in games where your opponent is unlucky theyre relying on maybe 4-6 other grade 3's in deck to go into first before Waterfall. making it a dead card in the hand they dont want to ride. alfred you can ride at any time and it would be a good play.
Just from the Japanese speculationa alone, Royals are already stronger than Kagero, before alfred's reveal in Japan, they've already had card comparisons. Royals have significantly stronger cards. Akane/Mythril Knight are cheap +1s on Grade 2 that outdue 1 Beserk Dragon/Nahelm or 1 Bahr. As G3s before Alfred, Alfred Early was a CB1 Plus 2 occasionally and Soul Saver was a SB6 Win the game coming onto turn 5-7. Kagero's more expensive card designs makes it so waterfall carries the deck which can't beat multiple cards on its own. Kagero's form of +1s all cost a extra soul or have a restriction which makes it hard to keep advantage over Royals cheap cost. With Alfred they have a psuedo force on VG and a CB1 +1 for multiple turns. These are just barely half the reasonings as to why Royals have out done Kagero already.
1. it should never be alfred(VR) vs. waterfall(VR) it shuld be royal deck (strongest/) vs. kagero deck (strongest) 2. Comparing them would be more like saying grade 4 alfred is better than wingal or other support cards. 3. Or maybe comparing a RR G unit to a RR special skill heal. 4. Each have their own requirement,condition,timing etc. 5. don't forget kagero has overlord from trial deck but no other good grade 3 in deck than that from booster
VR is Vanguard Rare for short. It's basically Ultra Rare or G-Rare from the G era format. Every Booster Set now includes 1 VR per a box so you get a guaranteed Ultra Rare card, meaning if you have people in your game shop digging through the same box set as yours, you have a means to make an equivalent trade, making buying whole boxes viable way to get the cards you need if you can't buy the singles cause they're out of stock.
I feel like he is better if you have soul saver dragon in the deck. The reason is Alfred Early can call a Blaster Blade from hand or soul. Most likely anyone playing would have to call the card from soul. Which, decreases soul for soul saver. So in all honesty, not a bad first ride grade 3
its very scary against alfred for premium and for standard its pretty much what i would expect more like pacing itself than actually pulling off insane combo that is for premium
Old KoK gains power depends on how many rears you have. Now its only if you have BB. Very selfish af. If all of those BBs are gone, KoK is a vanilla 13k? 😕
I think that the major reason as to why so many people think that the new VR-Alfred is bad has to do when you compare this card. Not to Waterfall, but to his originall version from way back in the originall BT01 and his Trial-deck counterpart. The BT01 version had higher costs but allowed you to search for allmost any relevant card in your deck while also getting the +10K power, Blaster Blade on the field or not. And his superior-call skill for Blaster-Blade isn't new as well because Alfred Early does more or less the same (And has a better skill-activation-timing for premium.). This, in turn, really downplays the new King of Knights Alfred power/potentiall extremly. He will still be a good Boss-Unit in Standard, but I wouldn't be suprised if he would be the first major card to get left behind once RP gets its next support-wave due to how "tame" he feels.
that is my main problem with him at the moment, the over reliance on BB. Especially that the Power boost CONT skill is also relying on a BB on field, if you know for what ever reason won't be able to get out a BB on the field, this card is a 13k vanilla. Sure Royal is RG reliant and not VG centric, still they could have tied the Power skill to the amount of RGs aka "if you have 3 or more RGs this cards get power +10k" at least that would give him some use even if you were really unlucky and all your bbs are in DMG/Drop etc. (year proably won't happen that often but still can happen). if BB would have his Crit gain also on RC then maybe the call BB skill of Alfred would also get a bit of pressure out there, but like this it is rather meh. And I would rather have some other skills, the CB1 cost for the call skill is the next issue, sure Ressource Managment gets important again and I also think it's a good thing, but Royal almost need CB for everything, while the other decks can use soul and at least have one CC unit, ok you can't be sure that you draw the CC units but at least you have the possibilty while RP doesn't have any possibilty to CC other then a lucky heal.
Well this is interesting Alfred isn’t as powerful as I thought but soulsaver is the finisher and Alfred is a vanguard gaining power from his blaster blade only Bushiroad why so blaster blade dependent?
waterfall is good if you have consisten g3 on soul. in other hand alfred have 10k just to have BB. its consistency vs explosive power. furthermore because now its based on manga, maybe alfred will get support like v version of blaster axe, etc. make his value rise.
Alfred is actually really good. On ride, give a RG circle a 10k force marker. Then use his CB1 get a BB with 5k. Then he gets 10k. If you split it up right, it’s a 10k, 10k, 5k boost and it all works hella fast cuz unlike Dragabyss Luard, you get it as soon as you ride G3 even if your opponent is still at G2. He is actually kind of disgusting, unlike Overlord, he doesn’t have any counter play. You can PG Overlord, you can stop Alfred’s power buff.
God hope they don't fuck over with Ezel (assuming all paladin clans are force) though probably Phantom Blaster is what we should be hoping they won't screw up
Alfred is alright, but Blaster Blade sucks and it forcing us to run Blaster Blade cause of 2 of our 3 bosses require us to use it. Also Soul Saver and this should switch rarity. Oh and yeah as from first line you could figure out, I wouldn't have used Blaster Blade if this wasn't forcing it.
AdreusPlaysVanguard ...the new bb is amazing better then the og bb also thats because this is all Aichi support and his avatar is bb so be patient we'll probs get different boss monsters that don't need bb later (may take a while tho 😂)
Better than og yes, I'd be worried if it wasn't, but simply said having to run it restricts deck building and honestly the card itself isn't that good in standard. The cb is better used to plus yourself instead of the retire and the soul is more important to have for Soul Saver.
The Problem is, Alfred is just bad when you compare him to the Deck. Because he does nothing to bring you closer to your win condition (Soul Saver) He doesn't soul Charge, he himself doesn't gain a crit, hell, Blaster Blade doesn't even have a good Rear Guard Skill.
So what other grade 3 would you propose running early? Hes more of a vanilla than kok because no bb in hand or soul dead plus bb in soul less closer to win con
Almost all of the released card of royal paladin sucks. Well the superiority of the royal paladin is calling rear guards, giving power to each unit, and pairing up the rear guards, so yeah these skill of Alfred just suits the clan, which is my clan
The way I see it, KOK is certainly better than Alfred Early, and in a deck with Soul Saver Dragon he doesn't pull from soul unlike Early unless you have BB from hand, so there's little reason to run Alfred Early over KOK since his skills are overall better. The main problem tho, since he is a VR, he's naturally an expensive card, ranging from $20-35 depending on the demands, so maxing them out is easier said than done for budget paladin players when you also have to account for needing Perfect Draws and Akane. Not to mention you get Alfred Early with the TD at max copies since many of the cards in a competitive RP deck comes from Aichi's Trail Deck, so you do have to wonder if spending almost $100 is worth it to replace the Alfred you get from the deck for the Alfred with better skills overall. It ultimately depends on what type of player are you, I say most definitely if you want to compete in tournaments with other competitive players, casual plays tho really depends. Alfred Early isn't bad for what he does, and KoK is only better because he gets +10k when you have BB on the RG, letting you use your Force gift go to one of your front row units instead. Basically you're paying a premium price just so you can still get a +10k and give Force to your rearguard or make your VG a 33k hitter on your turns. Personal, as a budget player, if I were to build a RP deck I'd be content with Alfred Early since I don't partake in tournaments, but I wouldn't turn down on even one copy of KoK when given the chance. Long story short, no. KOK is good, but he's too expensive for some players for what he does. If Soul Saver Dragon were to be VR than that would be a different story, but it's safe to say that Alfred Early is still a decent unit if you can't afford KOK. Otherwise, they should be replaced if you have the opportunity to get your hands on King Alfred, and like I said, even just having one to replace an Alfred Early gives your deck an upper hand.
This is ok but I’m gonna compare numbers for attacks Alfred saver stride with no skills and no boost but with force marker: 38k New king of knights with skills no boost and using force: 33k New Alfred and ezzel legion with skills no boost using force (not counting ezzel’s skills):53k For those who don’t know the force gift effects both cards on the VG giving it 20k rather than 10k
A feel like it's over reliant on BB Wouldn't be an issue except for the anime only 1 rule, I can't see aichi pulling this off easily and not getting to retired Just too over reliant on it, nice he can be boosted and the easy with the legion but still I'd rather cb 2 for a omni call and four or more RGs get 10k power, easily rg restriction and still a call, we already got a BB specific Alfred and this feels a bit weaker in comparison
People just feel that KoK is shit is because how boring and flavorless the skill is when compared to Alfred Early IMO. This card is either designed to gear towards standard more or to push the legion we got way back, since this card does look pretty insane with the legion being able to keep recycling your BBs to keep KoK's skill up. As it stands now Alfred Early will be the better card to use in Premium since KoK is way outclassed by BB Exceed in that format.
With pressure being the name of the game, I would say it's a very fine card. Let me put out this point here as a reason for my opinion. Now that G guards and Strides are not relevant in the Standard format, Kagero now has the same weakness it had back in S1, and that weakness is hand size. Cmiiw but back in S1, Kagero had poor defense in exchange for immense attack. This "New Waterfall Vs New Alfred" does show that from my pov. With this Alfred's skill being able to superior call Blaster Blade, one can conserve a card extra in their hand, and remember, every card in hand is important now that guard restricting is starting to exist in Standard format with Waterfall's VG skill. Additionally, Kagero's retiring to players in general is a retire and lose your potential guard value or conserve the cards and give Kagero nothing to do anything with, which could be Kagero's potential weakness depending on where does Bushi go with the future support for Kagero. Just my thoughts😊😊😊
THANK YOU everyone keeps saying to me that kagero has a solid hand although I just started playing in the g era. but I did relize that kagero has a hand size problem. but not everyone agrees
ali abdulelab Kagero in the G era is a different case however. They DO have a solid but it's just not consistent at all and very hard to achieve (mostly needing mbudi, ziegenburg, deidda, blademaster, etc). The issue is that the fact that most of these skills can have their costs paid even without having rgs to burn, you'll run out of resources very fast as ur counter chargers won't be able to do their jobs under this condition. In other words, Kagero's problem of being reliant on retiring was capitalized by opponents so they still, despite of the draw support, can't get the perfect hand.
1: why in the blazes are people worried about running out of blaster blades? statistically its Highly unlikely you will go through all 4 of them in a game. Absolute worst case scenario by the time you ride Alfred you only have 2 left in the deck, which is plenty of time to switch into another ace, and that's only relevant against kagero, who can snipe out blade. everyone else has to actually attack the fucker with numbers that are actually relevant, and since Alfred can call him back out that's a massive mistake that saves you an amount of shield. 2: why in the blazes are people mad that royal paladin don't have a flashy finisher in the VR slot when SSD is already a flashy as heck finisher? we don't need a flashy finisher, we need a midgame beater boss which is what we got in spades. stop saying that this really good card is bad. 3: why in the blazes are people mad about having to run blaster blade in the deck when your already running blaster blade since he is literally one of the best cards in royal paladin right now? "oh the humanity alfred can only call out literally one of my best grade 2's that i can make swing for 28 when boosted by wingal, while giving another 10k to my akane boosted by flare mane stallion so its coming in at 33k, while my vanguard swings for 31 because its being boosted by something else. OH THE HORROR AT MAKING EASY POWER LANES!!!!"
I have feeling you are completely ignoring oracles by your videos. You made video about every vr with exeption of oracle. Why? Its quite sad for me because you talked about almost every triple for royal/kagero.
I talked about Imperial Daughter in this video: th-cam.com/video/mRwkAOQEodU/w-d-xo.html Her reveal just so happened to coincide with Phantom Blaster Dragon's announcement, which has more people hyped. Therefore, the title needed to be about that.
He is good for what he can do but...... come on! You're a King yet you still need your BFF to do sh*t? If he at least semi generic, I would give him a pass but having to rely on having 4 copies of BB in the deck shouldn't be VR worthy.
This is bullsh*t, bushiroad. Kageros get waterfall, but RPs get THIS cheap sh*t?!?!?! DAFUQ?!?!?! And to think I'm an RP player.... A pathetic excuse for a VR type card, what a shame..... 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
King of Knights Alfred is in no way bad. Comparing units on a clan basis has been showing to be more and more pointless, but not completely... we can say Waterfall is stronger than Alfred, but Waterfall is a Kagero card, designed to be played in Kagero.
Clan identity is such an important factor that is easily being ignored. It's like comparing vanilla ice-cream to strawberry ice-cream. Sure they're both ice-cream, but they clearly taste different. The same thing can be said about the clans.
Guardian285 I'm perfectly okay with Alfred not being a finisher (Even though I wish it was) MY problem with Alfred is that it doesn't help you get your goal, which is to have 5 soul. The restriction on only calling Blaster Blade (Which is a card that Soul Blast) hurts this card the most.
I have never compared Alfred to waterfall because it’s like you they are from different clans and I’m starting to warm up to Alfred now that I look at it but I just wish that his first skill could have been more generic so you could call anything because that’s what royals do they excel at filling the field fast by using different skills and KoK Alfred could have been a huge comeback from a field wipe if that makes any sense
Compare the new Alfred to the original kok Alfred, that's the problem this new Alfred isn't as strong or as reliable as Alfred early
Well I’d say the 10k power is a lot easier to get and this one can be boosted but I do see what you’re on about if you lose blaster blade the new Alfred becomes very vanilla where as the old Alfred could just replace that unit and still gain power
What makes KOK Alfred good and something I don't see many people mentioning, is the fact that he is an easy 23k WITHOUT having to put your force gift on VG. Which means that he allows you to put Force on RG circles without losing the magic 23k, while Kagero pretty much are obligated to put it on VG to make most of their effects. And like you said, it's a early ~ midgame boss that can build you field, create pressure, allow you to put Force on RGs, and prepare you for Soul Saver Dragon as the finisher.
Tbf, Simplicity at its finest is not always terrible. We just need to wait for a BB recycler.
Edit: Plus, you can actually boost this thing. :P
Soul Saver is the real finisher for RP because Dragon + Waifu!
Wslasher Even in Premium, that is true!! Waifu dragon slam jams over your opponent while Alfred is their setup man =P
I personally would use Early
Wslasher Wifu is life and dragon shall finish the fight
I have to agree with what you said. Royal Paladin overall is different from Kagero, so it's not too far fetched that the bosses would reflect those differences.
Nope he is good. A consistent 33k beater. With force. So much fun
Spectre -101 well Kill your BB and no more bb in deck or hand.
GG
Dhiyauddin Aiman thats why Soul Saver Dragon is there to help. The true finisher for RP atm. Tho it would be tough to put up the souls for SSD. In Premium, G3 Llew is there to recycle BB, hoping in the next set for Standard. BB will get a recycle engine to make it more consistent.
well until you run out of blaster blades in which case he'll just be a vanilla 13k vanguard i guess you would go into soul saver there
Skill to cost ratio is bad for this card
i can see RRR SSD be at 10+USD
i can't see this VR KOK above 10+ USD.
Wonder if Solitary Knight Gancelot will get a re release with a better skill
I hate how he only searches blaster blade, but his old cb3 skill with a lower cost *might* have made him a little too good?
Unless somebody combines it with the legion skill for king of knights Vanguard that Legions with king of knights Alfred. one would be able to actually make it a you were going to die this turn combo. Premium for the win.
i would say alfred has it strong point since judging by it skill it can carry you until mid game with soul saver to finish it off.
kagero on the other hand is very pressure heavy such as dragonic overlord with it's consistent "if you don't guard you're dead"(applying this term in standard format only) and with dragonic waterfall skill it makes your opponent being put into a corner kinda situation from guarding overlord attack.so yeah, it all comes down to one thing,each clan have it's own strong point.RP With it's rearguard power creeping attack,Kagero with it's consistent pressure and ETC. (SIDE NOTE:- Alfred looks dope)
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Edit, still, there is an interesting matter in terms of deckbuilding for RP because of the lack of CC, because until now there is no single unit. So you could arguably build a Soul Saver based deck without even using this unit considering Pongal und Funegal. Conjurer of Mithril, Blaster both cost soul, which yeah, you can get back through pongal, but there are some bites in card Design that make me wonder what the best compromise will be, but then again we have no full spoiler yet.
I think it's pretty good, people always have that knee jerk reaction after seeing the other skills, kinda reminds me of when Winning Champ was revealed. After contemplating the ability a bit and basically the turn you use his ability; it's like you got 2.5 force markers, the actual force marker you can stick on a rg, his own 10k boost from the cont and 5k that blaster blade gets, it's a lot of value for very little commitment and it's very hard to deal with if the royal player follows up from a BB G2 rush.
so pressure with alfred and soul save for the end game
interesting BOTH grade 3s are useful
I really enjoy how standard is slowly but surely making each clan have their own unique identity compared to the early vanguard days. A lot of people complained about waterfall skill being better than alfred but it's just that you all are comparing the wrong cards. Waterfall should be compared to soul saver while this alfred should be compared to dragonic overlord.
Hmmm...honestly, I can't really say right now. G era basically corrupted my mind on what defines a strong vanguard, with game-breaking effects that basically turn decks into a "win button" situation (see stuff like dust, or rinne for example). My opinion is that royals are gonna try rushing kageros (especially now with the new blaster critical gaining skill) before they can set up the finishing move with waterfall, while kagero are gonna try to counter rush royals with retiring, and maybe some pressure with overlord. I don't think I am the only one thought, that thinks the vr and rrr spot for royals should have been inverted, soul saver as a vr makes sense, while alfred feels more like a rrr.
Tobi? :D
Prinny Instructor Valvatorez lol G era really did
I think the reason Alfred is VR is because he's not essential to getting the job done, Soul Saver Dragon is and that's why I thinks it's a lower rarity. It could help with budget.
are you waiting for silent tom to make an ott video?
True KOK Alfred, need rg before.
but now need BB......
TD Alfred is good in Premium
TLDR : It's A VR and a very expensive one.......
God I can see the Price now.....
prepare your wallet.
I’m running the Trial Alfred and KOK Alfred along with Soul Saver. I feel as if that would be a good grade 3 setup with X4 Alfred Early X2 KOK Alfred X2 Soul Saver.
Alfred has always been that consistent pushover, the effect might be not that flashy but it is consistent.
I want a video on what each of these clans do so i can pick a playstyle as a new player, or atleast have an idea of the play styles!.....
also as a new player i see it like this,waterfall is better the turn you play it, boom all its power is thrown at your opponent turn one, while Alfred is better if the turn after you down ride another vanguard. its value goes up over time.
Alfred seems super strong just not a finisher. The biggest thing holding the deck back is no countercharge (as of yet) and every good card costing counterblast
I am reading many comments on how if there is no BB on field this is a vanilla. True, don't get me wrong, but from the few game I saw using the new cards, games usually end before the fourth blaster blade even hits the field.
Remember, the same can be said for waterfall, if the opponent has no g3 to soulblast he is even more of a vanilla. Sure, his active turn is incredibly strong, but if the opponent survives it, he either has to reride ANOTHER waterfall, wich he may or may not have, to have back the same pressure. It is basically the same deal with soul saver. One time big skills that wins you the game or leaves you with very few alternatives.
If Alfred had an extra crit depending on the number of rears even without the guard restrict, I think that would make the card even more ideal overall. In comparison to waterfall, it truly does not offer that much finishing power. Soul Saver does seem to be the finisher of the deck atm. However, the fact that Alfred can reach a total of 53k power in total with gift, skill and two triggers is scary by itself. Therefore, Alfred may not be the best card overall, but we will find purposes for it for sure and it will still for sure be a 4 of in Royal decks. To conclude, the card could have been way worse. As a Royal player I am happy with the card (that extra crit would have been nice tho XD )
My problem with this Alfred is the Alfred early from the trail deck does the job nearly as well, it's not that I expect a finisher I expect a vr level card
the difference between early and KOK is that early gives you a powerful play for 1 turn and then it turns to a vanilla 13k base. while KOK gives you a solid vg attacker for the whole midgame while in the same time letting you add the gift markers to rgs rather than vg, which is what you want for a rp deck
ali abdulelab it's kind of settled in a bit more now, it just feels underwhelming in comparison, it's still a good card but improvements such as letting it summon any card or giving extra power or damage on a full field wouldn't make it op, then again as the game goes later as long as you keep riding it will get a lot scarier
I think the thing is Alfred feels like a RRR, and SSD feels like a VR. I wonder if the rarity should have been flipped.
I dont know
but don't think that all finishers have to be vrs and midgame g3s have to be rrr. it looks good to me tbh
however I have 2 problems with it
1- relying on only 1 unit to get the extra +10k, which might lead to having no other blaster blade in the deck, so turning it to a vanilla
2- and this is not only on this unit but on the royal paladin deck as a whole. the deck uses a lot of cb without having any means of cc, so I'm not sure if the deck will be able to compete with the rest if we didn't get any cc skills
Hm... should I buy the deck... or should I wait for AqF
Erick Tanamal what clan is your “heart”?
The thing nobody is talking about is the fact that with bb on the field, that makes him a necessary target to keep forcing the rp player to use a counter blast. Yeah, Kagero has the advantage of not needing to attack him, but the other clans will have to waste an attack at bb and he's a 10k base, so that attack will have to come from a boosted or powered up rearguard. One more thing to think about. And overall, yeah Kagero is just a bad match up for royal paladins, because it has always been a difficult match up.
Ig the true ace of the royal paladin clan is soul saver dragon just like in the first series
I wonder if they will remake majesty lord blaster or Dragonic overlord the end or phantom blaster overlord?
Itz_Mystogan - Games And More! I think they will
There abilities will be changed completely tho like knight of knights Alfred
I Think Not, because now The Game is almost based on The manga, Majesty isn't in The manga, but It is Blaster Blade Burst Instead.
Ok
Sei D.Destiny Nah Exculpate the Blaster is the MLB in manga, manga aichi didn't succumb to PSYqualia in manga
#notificationsquad i think it's better than it looks, it's the classic alfred who call and attack for Xmilion. Waterfall is just better than every other VR and ok, but alfred is still good
Nuuu i used 3 minutes to wrote this so i'm not early anymore :(
Now Royal Paladin players can "Stand Up Their Avatar" again and again. But seriously this is a good card.
Well lets see but KOK Alfred is
Pretty good in Premium you could legion it with Ezzel to set your field real quick with Ezzel and Alfred's Skill so next turn you could try using the new Soul Saver to Finish you opponent off. But still excited for standard specially the AqF support.
i think kok alfred is better than waterfall because you can go into kok alfred on your first g3 and get up to 33k no problem whereas waterfall you need to already have a grade 3 to get it off up to that 33k + 1 crit
there isnt much search and draw so in games where your opponent is unlucky theyre relying on maybe 4-6 other grade 3's in deck to go into first before Waterfall. making it a dead card in the hand they dont want to ride. alfred you can ride at any time and it would be a good play.
He isn't bad, just not good enough to be a VR. That is my opinion anyway
If its a cont skill so whenwvwr ypur opponent is on defense it means to say the plus will maintain?
Just from the Japanese speculationa alone, Royals are already stronger than Kagero, before alfred's reveal in Japan, they've already had card comparisons. Royals have significantly stronger cards. Akane/Mythril Knight are cheap +1s on Grade 2 that outdue 1 Beserk Dragon/Nahelm or 1 Bahr.
As G3s before Alfred, Alfred Early was a CB1 Plus 2 occasionally and Soul Saver was a SB6 Win the game coming onto turn 5-7.
Kagero's more expensive card designs makes it so waterfall carries the deck which can't beat multiple cards on its own. Kagero's form of +1s all cost a extra soul or have a restriction which makes it hard to keep advantage over Royals cheap cost. With Alfred they have a psuedo force on VG and a CB1 +1 for multiple turns.
These are just barely half the reasonings as to why Royals have out done Kagero already.
1. it should never be alfred(VR) vs. waterfall(VR)
it shuld be royal deck (strongest/) vs. kagero deck (strongest)
2. Comparing them would be more like saying grade 4 alfred is better than wingal or other support cards.
3. Or maybe comparing a RR G unit to a RR special skill heal.
4. Each have their own requirement,condition,timing etc.
5. don't forget kagero has overlord from trial deck but no other good grade 3 in deck than that from booster
realm of six paths Which makes it harder on Kagero to close out games without Waterfall, especially against protect.
Sorry im new to this rebooted thing...What is "VR" anyway?
VR is Vanguard Rare for short. It's basically Ultra Rare or G-Rare from the G era format. Every Booster Set now includes 1 VR per a box so you get a guaranteed Ultra Rare card, meaning if you have people in your game shop digging through the same box set as yours, you have a means to make an equivalent trade, making buying whole boxes viable way to get the cards you need if you can't buy the singles cause they're out of stock.
Caboose Wannabe wow thank you
I feel like he is better if you have soul saver dragon in the deck. The reason is Alfred Early can call a Blaster Blade from hand or soul. Most likely anyone playing would have to call the card from soul. Which, decreases soul for soul saver. So in all honesty, not a bad first ride grade 3
Sorry if that doesn’t make sense. Usually I don’t try and understand Royals.
Who else could only make 3 entries on the contest since you can't invite a friend?
I do agree with u that rp is a rg based deck, hmm hmmmm really got a point there
Do you think we will see RP decks with or without Blaster Blade/Alfred ?
Chaz Hartwayne altmile xD
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Could ezzel legion with him, getting 23k power?
its very scary against alfred for premium and for standard its pretty much what i would expect more like pacing itself than actually pulling off insane combo that is for premium
He’s decent. Not bad nor busted like Dragonic Waterfall he’s just very solid.
Old KoK gains power depends on how many rears you have. Now its only if you have BB. Very selfish af.
If all of those BBs are gone, KoK is a vanilla 13k? 😕
We still have monarch sanctuary next year and even messianic Lord blaster I think
My brother bought RP trial deck. I Cant wait to buy Shadow Palladin trial deck this september if im not mistaken.
Dauntless + waterfall = yes :D (for premium only)
I think that the major reason as to why so many people think that the new VR-Alfred is bad has to do when you compare this card. Not to Waterfall, but to his originall version from way back in the originall BT01 and his Trial-deck counterpart.
The BT01 version had higher costs but allowed you to search for allmost any relevant card in your deck while also getting the +10K power, Blaster Blade on the field or not. And his superior-call skill for Blaster-Blade isn't new as well because Alfred Early does more or less the same (And has a better skill-activation-timing for premium.). This, in turn, really downplays the new King of Knights Alfred power/potentiall extremly. He will still be a good Boss-Unit in Standard, but I wouldn't be suprised if he would be the first major card to get left behind once RP gets its next support-wave due to how "tame" he feels.
that is my main problem with him at the moment, the over reliance on BB. Especially that the Power boost CONT skill is also relying on a BB on field, if you know for what ever reason won't be able to get out a BB on the field, this card is a 13k vanilla. Sure Royal is RG reliant and not VG centric, still they could have tied the Power skill to the amount of RGs aka "if you have 3 or more RGs this cards get power +10k" at least that would give him some use even if you were really unlucky and all your bbs are in DMG/Drop etc. (year proably won't happen that often but still can happen).
if BB would have his Crit gain also on RC then maybe the call BB skill of Alfred would also get a bit of pressure out there, but like this it is rather meh. And I would rather have some other skills, the CB1 cost for the call skill is the next issue, sure Ressource Managment gets important again and I also think it's a good thing, but Royal almost need CB for everything, while the other decks can use soul and at least have one CC unit, ok you can't be sure that you draw the CC units but at least you have the possibilty while RP doesn't have any possibilty to CC other then a lucky heal.
Should i buy the kagero or royal paladin trial deck?
Whatever you like the most :)
In my opinion, Kagero.
in my opinion, Royal Paladin.
In my opinion buy both
Ardy Soriano what clan is your “heart”?
Can bushiroad just show me mega colony
But you can call more blaster blade
I want to send you a private message were can i send you one solemn vanguard?
Well this is interesting Alfred isn’t as powerful as I thought but soulsaver is the finisher and Alfred is a vanguard gaining power from his blaster blade only
Bushiroad why so blaster blade dependent?
waterfall is good if you have consisten g3 on soul.
in other hand alfred have 10k just to have BB.
its consistency vs explosive power.
furthermore because now its based on manga, maybe alfred will get support like v version of blaster axe, etc. make his value rise.
Alfred is actually really good. On ride, give a RG circle a 10k force marker. Then use his CB1 get a BB with 5k. Then he gets 10k. If you split it up right, it’s a 10k, 10k, 5k boost and it all works hella fast cuz unlike Dragabyss Luard, you get it as soon as you ride G3 even if your opponent is still at G2. He is actually kind of disgusting, unlike Overlord, he doesn’t have any counter play. You can PG Overlord, you can stop Alfred’s power buff.
God hope they don't fuck over with Ezel (assuming all paladin clans are force) though probably Phantom Blaster is what we should be hoping they won't screw up
IDK, felt like Waterfall should've at least have ya SB two G3s for such a powerful skill.
Alfred is alright, but Blaster Blade sucks and it forcing us to run Blaster Blade cause of 2 of our 3 bosses require us to use it.
Also Soul Saver and this should switch rarity. Oh and yeah as from first line you could figure out, I wouldn't have used Blaster Blade if this wasn't forcing it.
AdreusPlaysVanguard ...the new bb is amazing better then the og bb also thats because this is all Aichi support and his avatar is bb so be patient we'll probs get different boss monsters that don't need bb later (may take a while tho 😂)
Better than og yes, I'd be worried if it wasn't, but simply said having to run it restricts deck building and honestly the card itself isn't that good in standard. The cb is better used to plus yourself instead of the retire and the soul is more important to have for Soul Saver.
The Problem is, Alfred is just bad when you compare him to the Deck. Because he does nothing to bring you closer to your win condition (Soul Saver) He doesn't soul Charge, he himself doesn't gain a crit, hell, Blaster Blade doesn't even have a good Rear Guard Skill.
So what other grade 3 would you propose running early? Hes more of a vanilla than kok because no bb in hand or soul dead plus bb in soul less closer to win con
Almost all of the released card of royal paladin sucks. Well the superiority of the royal paladin is calling rear guards, giving power to each unit, and pairing up the rear guards, so yeah these skill of Alfred just suits the clan, which is my clan
also Alfred is more expensive than waterfall in the uk (on big orbit)
lol
That's cause you guys love Knights over there.
i prefer the old alfred the new one is more reliant on blaster blade were as the old one it relied on its rear guards not just blaster blade
From my testing it seems like Alfred early is better
It's comparing Early King to Late King
The way I see it, KOK is certainly better than Alfred Early, and in a deck with Soul Saver Dragon he doesn't pull from soul unlike Early unless you have BB from hand, so there's little reason to run Alfred Early over KOK since his skills are overall better. The main problem tho, since he is a VR, he's naturally an expensive card, ranging from $20-35 depending on the demands, so maxing them out is easier said than done for budget paladin players when you also have to account for needing Perfect Draws and Akane. Not to mention you get Alfred Early with the TD at max copies since many of the cards in a competitive RP deck comes from Aichi's Trail Deck, so you do have to wonder if spending almost $100 is worth it to replace the Alfred you get from the deck for the Alfred with better skills overall.
It ultimately depends on what type of player are you, I say most definitely if you want to compete in tournaments with other competitive players, casual plays tho really depends. Alfred Early isn't bad for what he does, and KoK is only better because he gets +10k when you have BB on the RG, letting you use your Force gift go to one of your front row units instead. Basically you're paying a premium price just so you can still get a +10k and give Force to your rearguard or make your VG a 33k hitter on your turns. Personal, as a budget player, if I were to build a RP deck I'd be content with Alfred Early since I don't partake in tournaments, but I wouldn't turn down on even one copy of KoK when given the chance.
Long story short, no. KOK is good, but he's too expensive for some players for what he does. If Soul Saver Dragon were to be VR than that would be a different story, but it's safe to say that Alfred Early is still a decent unit if you can't afford KOK. Otherwise, they should be replaced if you have the opportunity to get your hands on King Alfred, and like I said, even just having one to replace an Alfred Early gives your deck an upper hand.
This is ok but I’m gonna compare numbers for attacks
Alfred saver stride with no skills and no boost but with force marker: 38k
New king of knights with skills no boost and using force: 33k
New Alfred and ezzel legion with skills no boost using force (not counting ezzel’s skills):53k
For those who don’t know the force gift effects both cards on the VG giving it 20k rather than 10k
A feel like it's over reliant on BB
Wouldn't be an issue except for the anime only 1 rule, I can't see aichi pulling this off easily and not getting to retired
Just too over reliant on it, nice he can be boosted and the easy with the legion but still
I'd rather cb 2 for a omni call and four or more RGs get 10k power, easily rg restriction and still a call, we already got a BB specific Alfred and this feels a bit weaker in comparison
ok so 34k legion, and you call blaster blade at 15k
I hoped for more for the skill the KoK Alfred, but now ... i don't give a shit anymore XD, Soul Saver Dragon is the new finisher i guess ..
It's just a blaster support sv don't be too hard on it but still that dragon kicks ass kiss it perfect guards
aye it is monarch alfred - minus the crit and cb 3
honestly cb2 and soulblast one, call a 9k rg and retire one
it isn't terrible
But hey if your playing premium and you play Laura your Alfred becomes a 14k vanguard
Ok. Things has been decided.
F*ck SHADOW and get Kagero.
(Not actually. I still love Blaster Dark)
People just feel that KoK is shit is because how boring and flavorless the skill is when compared to Alfred Early IMO. This card is either designed to gear towards standard more or to push the legion we got way back, since this card does look pretty insane with the legion being able to keep recycling your BBs to keep KoK's skill up. As it stands now Alfred Early will be the better card to use in Premium since KoK is way outclassed by BB Exceed in that format.
interesting '__'
With pressure being the name of the game, I would say it's a very fine card. Let me put out this point here as a reason for my opinion.
Now that G guards and Strides are not relevant in the Standard format, Kagero now has the same weakness it had back in S1, and that weakness is hand size. Cmiiw but back in S1, Kagero had poor defense in exchange for immense attack. This "New Waterfall Vs New Alfred" does show that from my pov. With this Alfred's skill being able to superior call Blaster Blade, one can conserve a card extra in their hand, and remember, every card in hand is important now that guard restricting is starting to exist in Standard format with Waterfall's VG skill. Additionally, Kagero's retiring to players in general is a retire and lose your potential guard value or conserve the cards and give Kagero nothing to do anything with, which could be Kagero's potential weakness depending on where does Bushi go with the future support for Kagero.
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everyone keeps saying to me that kagero has a solid hand
although I just started playing in the g era. but I did relize that kagero has a hand size problem. but not everyone agrees
ali abdulelab Kagero in the G era is a different case however. They DO have a solid but it's just not consistent at all and very hard to achieve (mostly needing mbudi, ziegenburg, deidda, blademaster, etc).
The issue is that the fact that most of these skills can have their costs paid even without having rgs to burn, you'll run out of resources very fast as ur counter chargers won't be able to do their jobs under this condition. In other words, Kagero's problem of being reliant on retiring was capitalized by opponents so they still, despite of the draw support, can't get the perfect hand.
Is solemn vanguard bad?
1: why in the blazes are people worried about running out of blaster blades? statistically its Highly unlikely you will go through all 4 of them in a game. Absolute worst case scenario by the time you ride Alfred you only have 2 left in the deck, which is plenty of time to switch into another ace, and that's only relevant against kagero, who can snipe out blade. everyone else has to actually attack the fucker with numbers that are actually relevant, and since Alfred can call him back out that's a massive mistake that saves you an amount of shield.
2: why in the blazes are people mad that royal paladin don't have a flashy finisher in the VR slot when SSD is already a flashy as heck finisher? we don't need a flashy finisher, we need a midgame beater boss which is what we got in spades. stop saying that this really good card is bad.
3: why in the blazes are people mad about having to run blaster blade in the deck when your already running blaster blade since he is literally one of the best cards in royal paladin right now? "oh the humanity alfred can only call out literally one of my best grade 2's that i can make swing for 28 when boosted by wingal, while giving another 10k to my akane boosted by flare mane stallion so its coming in at 33k, while my vanguard swings for 31 because its being boosted by something else. OH THE HORROR AT MAKING EASY POWER LANES!!!!"
Not bad just underwhelming compared to the other VRs
Tom premium video please
I have feeling you are completely ignoring oracles by your videos. You made video about every vr with exeption of oracle. Why? Its quite sad for me because you talked about almost every triple for royal/kagero.
I talked about Imperial Daughter in this video: th-cam.com/video/mRwkAOQEodU/w-d-xo.html
Her reveal just so happened to coincide with Phantom Blaster Dragon's announcement, which has more people hyped. Therefore, the title needed to be about that.
In my oppinion alfred early is better than king of knights
He is good for what he can do but...... come on! You're a King yet you still need your BFF to do sh*t? If he at least semi generic, I would give him a pass but having to rely on having 4 copies of BB in the deck shouldn't be VR worthy.
Nice video. I’m early
Not as early as Alfred tho.
Chaz Hartwayne nice one.
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This is bullsh*t, bushiroad. Kageros get waterfall, but RPs get THIS cheap sh*t?!?!?! DAFUQ?!?!?!
And to think I'm an RP player.... A pathetic excuse for a VR type card, what a shame.....
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