- Blessing of Solisium is being completely removed for Global - Battlepass can now be purchased with grinded Lucent for Free ( Can only buy battlepass with real money in Korea ) - Battlepass Premium tiers AFTER completing the battlepass has been completely removed for Global
@@oAazo It's fine... hopefully people blinded by the angry mob of haters on TH-cam will see it and try the game cause it's not really P2W... buying the battlepass is enough to keep you on par with the whales if we're being honest... now if your goal is to be THE no.1 highest geared player on the server then sorry but you have to pay no matter what MMO you're playing... except ESO I guess but ESO doesn't have any real competitive PvP anyway... What I'm saying is that if you're playing any of the big MMOs then giving this game a try should be a given since all big MMOs are kinda meh or shit depending on what you play... Throne and Liberty won't blow you away and change your whole life, but come on... what MMO does? FFXIV is dogshit until you hit level 70 and you pay money to play (equivalent to buying the battle pass in T&L), WoW nowadays is absolute garbage and you pay monthly too, GW2 is probably the most player friendly monetization (except if you wanna buy the best gear you can buy gold WITH REAL MONEY), ESO is buy to play but there is so much pay for "convenience" that without paying you're miserable and the list goes on and on... So overall no, I don't think Throne & Liberty is that heavily P2W... this game is certainly NOT Lost Ark... not even close...
Global Beta is July 18th, global release is September 17th - Amazon posted - the Blessing Of Solisium will not be in at launch - www.playthroneandliberty.com/en-us/news/articles/tl-business-model
Also, no premium track and you can buy everything with lucent so you don't have to pay real money if you can earn lucent. You can reroll traits and stuff you sell has to be upgraded. If you're a PvE player p2w basically doesn't mean much.
My only gripe with some of these Korean games is having to scroll through all these UI elements, I had the same problem when playing Lost Ark. I wish they could streamline it a bit more like say Black Desert Online, but even there it's not perfect. TLDR; It's extremely exhausting having to go through so many menus to buy and collect rewards!
Appreciate your honesty on addressing the P2W elements in this game. Looking forward to reviewing the monetization practices myself later when I play this.
I'm sad now. I learned on another video that all of the major content is "scheduled" content. When looking at when this content is offered is nearly all at night. So, if you're a morning or afternoon player you're kinda screwed? I nearly never play at night. Is this true?
there is mornign shedule content the night heavy is the big conent like siege castles,but for those u kinda need to be a nolifer to take part in ( or just go there witha half ass guild and just die ;P) so i would say it doesnt matter
Besides the gameplay and content, they need to fix game economy system, because as long they use lucent to buy/sell gear in the market/auction house they need to reduce the tax, 20%+ is just insane.. the rest is social aspects
The dominion event sounds like it could be super abusable if one large company decides to co-ordinate across teams to win trade. Looks like fun though.
At this point you gotta stop calling a battle pass pay to win like really. The market isn't really pay to win either because you're only buying base gear you have to progress it yourself by actually completing in game content and getting the materials for the upgrade. The market won't be flooded with boss gear because the drops are limited to a certain amount a week . This game is really rng heavy with limited get ahead progress. Even the people who buy the early access version won't be added on to the same server for a certain amount of time when the game releases for everyone.
@@kingleonidus8766 it's hard to explain every time but a battle pass to be is pay to win if it makes you stronger than non buyers but it's probably the least bad version. The market is pay to win but hard to quantify
@@jayoddity While you "shoot" it is far closer to NW combat than a shooter. Not to say its fantasy RPG combat but its closer in skill level and "ease" to NW. I think you'd find a lot of fun in giving Once Human a go. Note: NW combat is better/more fluid than Once Human.
This game will be the best ever because of the mechanics and community. Europe was waiting for a new Lineage 2...p2w is not that bad every mmorpg will have a level of p2w.
Its a company so they need to make money. If i can do 60% of the contend with 70 Euros spend its fine 4 me. I spend about 300 Euros on ESO in 4 years so when i like the game a lot 100 a year is fine for me.
They need to do what lost ark did. Equalised arena with nothing from pve working there. Lost ark had the best arena PVP i have ever seen, to bad they failed that game
no its not... Amazon has a say, ..... and no matter what you say it has P2W, game will not be a big game, the player base will limited soon enough... and our version will end up like all the other Amazon Games out there....
I thought that current Lineage 2, and the closed Archeage were p2w but NCSOFT has introduced a whole different level p2w... Combat looks like mobile game, so it is easy to say that many players will use macros.
This game has the most toxic players I have ever seen. Players getting removed from parties because they use a heal over time on themselves while fighting because they don’t like their name. That’s just the tip of the ice. It’s also loaded with try hard like the guy in the video.
*Bad combat, Too many Currencies, Content locked by ingame Schedule, Layers of Menu's, and multiple Upgrade-systems.* *You know what else has these things..?* *PAY 2 WIN - MOBILE GAMES!* 😂🤣
@@andrzejw7500 Yes it will, that is 100% certain, it will fail just like all other MMOs in recent times! TL is an ordinary theme park with a short (streamer) hype at release and after 1 or 2 months the players will move on. The next dead MMO after a few months.... There is no more room next to the established (theme park) top dogs WoW, FF14 or ESO. Of course, TL can never win the content race against them!
@@andrzejw7500 This is demonstrably wrong! FF14, for example, had a peak of 55k players yesterday on Steam alone! No newer MMO reaches that, if it hasn't already been discontinued! NW was at less than 5k yesterday! I'll tell you how it goes with TL: 6 figure player numbers at release, then after a month or two the players will quit like I said and a few more months later it's Amazon's next epic fail.
Throne of Liberty it's super bad in game play in graphics and game mechanincs. TL it's much more p2w than all games on earth combined togheter. It's a worst game ever human kind made. Pax Dei even in alpha it's straight top while TL can't even handle bugs and glitches it's just sad. NW and TL have toghether to be buried same way, simple die like trash game.
True every word bro, it already failed horribly in its motherland bringing it here combined with Ags rep of management games. Sprinkle cherry on top the game being hyper p2w GIGA-whale territory.....yeah it pretty much speaks for itself whats gonna happen.
Whenever I see a new game with more than 14 skill slots I need to hotkey I have to pass over it. I'm not contorting my fingers to press keys... This isn't 2005, stop making the UI so cluttered and complex.....
nope Tl is junk compared to new world. i will not even mention gw2,wow or old L2, they are masterpieace compared to this... at last NCsoft got what they deserve for they greedy p2w. You will see this game will end days worse then new world.
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See ya in game on Thursday -- it will be interesting how well the new business model works on release
- Blessing of Solisium is being completely removed for Global
- Battlepass can now be purchased with grinded Lucent for Free ( Can only buy battlepass with real money in Korea )
- Battlepass Premium tiers AFTER completing the battlepass has been completely removed for Global
Yeah I already pinned a comment
@@jayoddity Oh. Turns out I'm just blind! Sorry 😅
@@oAazo It's fine... hopefully people blinded by the angry mob of haters on TH-cam will see it and try the game cause it's not really P2W... buying the battlepass is enough to keep you on par with the whales if we're being honest... now if your goal is to be THE no.1 highest geared player on the server then sorry but you have to pay no matter what MMO you're playing... except ESO I guess but ESO doesn't have any real competitive PvP anyway...
What I'm saying is that if you're playing any of the big MMOs then giving this game a try should be a given since all big MMOs are kinda meh or shit depending on what you play... Throne and Liberty won't blow you away and change your whole life, but come on... what MMO does? FFXIV is dogshit until you hit level 70 and you pay money to play (equivalent to buying the battle pass in T&L), WoW nowadays is absolute garbage and you pay monthly too, GW2 is probably the most player friendly monetization (except if you wanna buy the best gear you can buy gold WITH REAL MONEY), ESO is buy to play but there is so much pay for "convenience" that without paying you're miserable and the list goes on and on...
So overall no, I don't think Throne & Liberty is that heavily P2W... this game is certainly NOT Lost Ark... not even close...
Global Beta is July 18th, global release is September 17th - Amazon posted - the Blessing Of Solisium will not be in at launch - www.playthroneandliberty.com/en-us/news/articles/tl-business-model
Also, no premium track and you can buy everything with lucent so you don't have to pay real money if you can earn lucent. You can reroll traits and stuff you sell has to be upgraded. If you're a PvE player p2w basically doesn't mean much.
very explanatory video, tahnk you
My only gripe with some of these Korean games is having to scroll through all these UI elements, I had the same problem when playing Lost Ark. I wish they could streamline it a bit more like say Black Desert Online, but even there it's not perfect.
TLDR; It's extremely exhausting having to go through so many menus to buy and collect rewards!
Pretty good vid, one note the second big updates and balance changes incoming to KR version won't be on global beta but will be on global release ;)
Which ones? So I haven't seen an official statement about it but maybe they have?
Appreciate your honesty on addressing the P2W elements in this game. Looking forward to reviewing the monetization practices myself later when I play this.
I feel like the jab that someone wants to play with you was directed at me haha as I asked you that when I enjoyed your stream :)
I'm sad now. I learned on another video that all of the major content is "scheduled" content. When looking at when this content is offered is nearly all at night. So, if you're a morning or afternoon player you're kinda screwed? I nearly never play at night. Is this true?
Easy fix I am just going to a server with a diff time zone.
there is mornign shedule content the night heavy is the big conent like siege castles,but for those u kinda need to be a nolifer to take part in ( or just go there witha half ass guild and just die ;P) so i would say it doesnt matter
Besides the gameplay and content, they need to fix game economy system, because as long they use lucent to buy/sell gear in the market/auction house they need to reduce the tax, 20%+ is just insane.. the rest is social aspects
Jay you going to make your own guild?
I have zero hype, zero expectations but I will check it out since it's an open Beta.
I can’t wait for the Global Release
The dominion event sounds like it could be super abusable if one large company decides to co-ordinate across teams to win trade. Looks like fun though.
They would be better just winning a guild one I think
At this point you gotta stop calling a battle pass pay to win like really. The market isn't really pay to win either because you're only buying base gear you have to progress it yourself by actually completing in game content and getting the materials for the upgrade. The market won't be flooded with boss gear because the drops are limited to a certain amount a week . This game is really rng heavy with limited get ahead progress. Even the people who buy the early access version won't be added on to the same server for a certain amount of time when the game releases for everyone.
@@kingleonidus8766 it's hard to explain every time but a battle pass to be is pay to win if it makes you stronger than non buyers but it's probably the least bad version.
The market is pay to win but hard to quantify
looking for something to replace new world while waiting for ashes and light no fire
I'm looking forward to check out the beta!
Sucks it's not on SEA Steam :( been waiting for this game for ages man
Can't wait for T&L global these updates sound good!
How to dive in throne and liberty
Guys its any different when main weapon is bow and second stuff of main is Staff and second bow?
Its the same or you dont have some skils?
U have access to the same skills
The skills can be used the same, but the main weapon is applied in the event of a general attack.
Thanks guys!
Guys,my mouse visual is lock,can't turn che directions,Anyone know why?
have you changed the playingmode (i think it is in the settings under "gameplay")
Global beta feels really good!
What’s the biggest reason it won’t be a long term game for you?
The combat.....NW spoiled me😅
Hard to say, pay to win, not that interesting combat and guild based pvp the main reasons
Dang so your saying the game isn't good lol😂
@@dracs5929lmfao this combat is 10x better than new world's
@@abdelrahmanrad to each their own. this game is like free wow......nothing new imo
in game GMs that swinga ban hammer when you do dumb shyt is an easy fix to most of those issues.
Will definitely be playing it 😎
Btw, great youtube stuff you are making, keep pumping
@@jayoddity dude Jay. That means a lot man. You’ve been one of my inspirations in starting the channel.
Im happy to say the NW Copium is no more 😂😂
How much should i save up to win? R we talking 200? 1000? Real question. TY
You should play Once Human, there are lots of New World mechanics in it.
I don't really like shooters :(
@@jayoddity While you "shoot" it is far closer to NW combat than a shooter. Not to say its fantasy RPG combat but its closer in skill level and "ease" to NW. I think you'd find a lot of fun in giving Once Human a go.
Note: NW combat is better/more fluid than Once Human.
But can you fly all over the map at will???
dis wil be my nexts mmo i mean look new world like notting new i wil be back on new world somtimes but not grinding
This game will be the best ever because of the mechanics and community. Europe was waiting for a new Lineage 2...p2w is not that bad every mmorpg will have a level of p2w.
I'm hyped. NW RIP.
So they've added more features in 6months than new world did in 2 years. All without game breaking bugs, or even many small bugs 😂
Im so stoked for this game One of the few games that focuses on pvp. I missed the lineage II peak but still try to go back every once in a while.
Looks almost like a gacha game..
As a massive Lineage 2 fan, cant say i have high expectations for this.
I saw the whelps playing PvP and it looked like two noodles hitting each other, you could even teleport in battle lol
tab target games in 2024 in a nutshell
Sad
You have watched old footage if that's what you saw
Its a company so they need to make money. If i can do 60% of the contend with 70 Euros spend its fine 4 me. I spend about 300 Euros on ESO in 4 years so when i like the game a lot 100 a year is fine for me.
video already outdated, monetization is much better for our version
no more Blessing and free Battlepass with ingame currency
Yep - I put it in the pinned comment
To clarify though, you'd have to earn the premium currency in game by selling traits and items and stuff, it's not like your normal currency
Hmmm..... i dont know...
Sadly I want to play this game but it doesn’t seem my time will be worth while given someone can swipe and really clean my butt. 😅
lol crap timing for this vid
Erm why? I put a pinned post about monetization, but that's just one part. The rest I think is still relevant
They need to do what lost ark did. Equalised arena with nothing from pve working there. Lost ark had the best arena PVP i have ever seen, to bad they failed that game
so what you get from pve than if progress isn't useful in pvp? If you want to play like that go play Battlerite or Mobas
No more videos about New World? Lol
What game is that? :P
Finally even odity stopped chestrunning
no its not... Amazon has a say, ..... and no matter what you say it has P2W, game will not be a big game, the player base will limited soon enough... and our version will end up like all the other Amazon Games out there....
Early access is only a few days? It's pretty meaningless especially over the life span of a mmo
☹️Why game graphic looks like from 2005😔
Stop talking poo
See a vision doctor
You must be blind lmao
Playing this on console is absolutely garbage. The controls are horrid. Gonna pass on this.
Can't even play it in Africa :)
I thought that current Lineage 2, and the closed Archeage were p2w but NCSOFT has introduced a whole different level p2w... Combat looks like mobile game, so it is easy to say that many players will use macros.
you never played the game, this game has ANYTHING of mobile game that's a fact
it's not.. it's literally the worst game I've ever played. it's so boring
This game has the most toxic players I have ever seen. Players getting removed from parties because they use a heal over time on themselves while fighting because they don’t like their name. That’s just the tip of the ice. It’s also loaded with try hard like the guy in the video.
I am already addicted to the open beta.
Can't be worse than NW currently...
You start the game with every skill and every weapon... Makes the game boring.. That's not how mmorpgs should be.
So much better, but still sucks.
It was worse than this?
what is zerg? hahahaha
Big numbers swarming
Now.. lol
Now...yes?
Its true, but it plays like a game from 2001 look great btw I played in cbt.
The action combat is really bad I wouldn't call it action combat
Good game to play until corepunk releases... skip p2w games
*Bad combat, Too many Currencies, Content locked by ingame Schedule, Layers of Menu's, and multiple Upgrade-systems.*
*You know what else has these things..?*
*PAY 2 WIN - MOBILE GAMES!* 😂🤣
so its a new scuffed lost ark
Zergs... oh no... lots of players playing... whatever should we do in a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER game. Sigh
MMOs are not all zergy. That’s not common for MMOs that have success in the US.
the combat is pure trash!! the attacks dont have no feeling behind them or anything
GG Pay2Win shit... :D Sorry but thats not "okey" or "acceptable" ... its just inacceptable and should be punished by not playing this bullshit... -.-"
This game is dead in Korea already and will be the next epic fail of Amazon in the west, too.
No It won't. Hype is back, P2W is gone after the recent announcement.
@@andrzejw7500 Yes it will, that is 100% certain, it will fail just like all other MMOs in recent times! TL is an ordinary theme park with a short (streamer) hype at release and after 1 or 2 months the players will move on. The next dead MMO after a few months....
There is no more room next to the established (theme park) top dogs WoW, FF14 or ESO. Of course, TL can never win the content race against them!
@@BaerBodo have more faith. Wow and ESO same as Final are getting old. That is why I stopped playing them. Many ppl do it for the same reason.
@@andrzejw7500 This is demonstrably wrong! FF14, for example, had a peak of 55k players yesterday on Steam alone! No newer MMO reaches that, if it hasn't already been discontinued! NW was at less than 5k yesterday! I'll tell you how it goes with TL: 6 figure player numbers at release, then after a month or two the players will quit like I said and a few more months later it's Amazon's next epic fail.
@@BaerBodo It can still have 55k but AVG is 25k that is not much. Anyways, it is just too old for me.
extremely p2w.
It's slop. Stop soy facing.
Throne of Liberty it's super bad in game play in graphics and game mechanincs. TL it's much more p2w than all games on earth combined togheter. It's a worst game ever human kind made. Pax Dei even in alpha it's straight top while TL can't even handle bugs and glitches it's just sad. NW and TL have toghether to be buried same way, simple die like trash game.
Have you even seen the recent news? Also saying a game is more p2w than BDO is hilarious
Those are certainly words you typed there.
True every word bro, it already failed horribly in its motherland bringing it here combined with Ags rep of management games. Sprinkle cherry on top the game being hyper p2w GIGA-whale territory.....yeah it pretty much speaks for itself whats gonna happen.
Whenever I see a new game with more than 14 skill slots I need to hotkey I have to pass over it. I'm not contorting my fingers to press keys... This isn't 2005, stop making the UI so cluttered and complex.....
This game only has 10 hotkeys per set. Soooo
@@coreymj78 At 1:29 Why do I count 19 skills on the skill bar then?
Exactly. Old ass game with sht old systems. Wait for chrono odyssey.
@@HawkeBlackwell Haven't heard of that game. I'll check it out.
Git gud
This is some kind of mobile clone of Black Desert but with a terrible combat system and movement
nope Tl is junk compared to new world. i will not even mention gw2,wow or old L2, they are masterpieace compared to this... at last NCsoft got what they deserve for they greedy p2w. You will see this game will end days worse then new world.