Dagger + Xbow is not the same as Xbow + Dagger Xbow + dagger = you main hand Xbow Dagger + Xbow = you main hand Dagger The playstyle is different for both of those two, mainhand xbow focuses on ranged kiting while mainhand dagger focuses on melee burst combos
How you are not getting cced against gs dagger? Like you get cced but yet some type of purification applied and you able to escape from it how is that?
Nice vid bro, like to see stuff like this, where you don’t get one shot and both side strong. Proper testing. Were you using melee evasion vs GS and range evasion gear vs bow. Or both same gear
@@joeiteevee3604 My pleasure, thanks for all the video's bro! Do you reckon they will crack down on dagger's passives? It seems like dagger is what is driving the most of the xbow damage as well, right? I don't get the recent crossbow nerfs announced
Extremely useful vid, thanks. What do you mean by main weapon? I thought it only affects which weapon is out by default, which enables weapon mastery passives, but other then that? Doesn't any skill use it's weapon's stats and mastery anyway?
@@joeiteevee3604 nvm, i looked closely to what skills you are pressing and noticed E looks like pressed all the time. Apparently it always looks like this, i just didn't notice before. Anyway, could you elaborate about xbow+dagger not the same as dagger+xbow?
@@skylenas9346 He using Tevent bow I believe, most people in our alliance have 1-2 archboss some players have 6 different archboss weapons on 1 character.
I suffer a lot for melees, they stack a lot of hit. How much evasion do you get with this build? And the guy you dueled, would you know how much hit he has?
Hi very nice gameplay, looks super dope🤙🏽 But how does this perform in small scale? Like 3v3 or open world? I played 5000h pvp in elder scrolls online, so i have some genral knowledge but ofc im new in this game
@@joeiteevee3604 Ar thanks I wonder that alot classes/combos dont have survivability at all, at least its looks like that for me How can u backup after a fight with xbow/dagger, do u have any access to heals and cc remove? Or do u heal with potions in pvp? 🤔
i really feel sad for xbow. Considering that your dmg on the target is like 90% to 10% if not more in comparison to your opponent, you need so much time to kill the gs while if you reverse it (90% dmg on target from the gs to xbow) you would be dead in 2 secs. Having in mind that this 1v1 situation is almost non existant except these arranged duels, the whole patch is unfair to xbow players considering you are a glasscannon that cant properly disengage from a fight. And after all these, ncsoft nerfs it even more xD
"In this clip we are showing u how classes looks after 8 months..hundred of dollars and thousand of hours spend in the game DREAM ON BOYS AND GIRLS maybe one day and u can have it" 👀
@@nathancachia1419 yeah but balance and essence of pvp is death af no more pk no rewards for doing pvp etc... so yeah good feeling doing combos at the dummy
It's not trash lol, my build is designed to fight melee + ranged users. I also have another build designed to fight range and magic users. He is geared to the teeth with double archboss, but so am I. Everyone in the video is geared properly
@@iamisobe Xbow has 1 short CC immune and one CC break. Maybe he just blocked/timed very good. Also Xbow/Dagger has most evasion ingame. Could be legit since he has solid gear
GS-Dag should have killed you, why did not ? didnt not how to play it ? this is for showing your pvp skills with the class or to show xbow-dagger op ? love you
GS-Dag should have killed me but I'm built different... This is for showing class matchups with end-game proper gearing. You already saw how little the xbow + dagger damage does compared to dagger + xbow (mainhand dagger not xbow)
@@josia_go6059 Yes but you also saw that he cannot land his CCs enough = this is because of either I perfect dodge them or I evade them with melee evasion. There's a good mix of both skill and proper gear setup to survive against it. Obviously if I used ranged/magic evasion I would die in a split second because I can't react fast enough to counter an SS > Ascending slash combo that's used by endgame GS/dag players.
it doesn't look particularly challenging. If you have to use your own brainpower and spend a long time tinkering around, it's a challenging PvP scenario. Its own concept, which isn't based on a guide, only works well if there are clearly a lot of individual paths to take. If your own plan works and you are clearly superior, then you get the feeling that the long time it took is also confirmed + + + I'm checking that out now and I'm pretty sure I'm going to keep my hands off the title. It's a bit difficult to see yourself out of it without having played the game. but..., since you're only talking about a weapon type that decides it, I think the quality is below Diablo IV : S please enlighten me : ) for my opinion at all PvP is a big waste of time in this game. i never played it but it looks like a bad pvp supportet game : /
hi Coi coi. Why did you show x bow so strong? Normally gs dagger kills xbow in 3 seconds. Actually x bow is very weak my boi. x bow is Need buff ma men
Xbow is not strong... It is very weak, you can see how long it takes for xbow to kill the greatsword or the longbow... I am killing them faster with my "dagger"
Dagger + Xbow is not the same as Xbow + Dagger
Xbow + dagger = you main hand Xbow
Dagger + Xbow = you main hand Dagger
The playstyle is different for both of those two, mainhand xbow focuses on ranged kiting while mainhand dagger focuses on melee burst combos
Good video, what armor, trait do you use to resist so much against sword?
How is the dagger burst combo I want to main this
@@alfonsorodriguez2298 Melee and Ranged evasion
Is it the same for Dagger + GS / GS + Dagger?
Do you have guide for Dagger/Xbow? which one is better tho thanks
Howd you not get stunlocked by the gs dagger
Is there a guide with daggers as mainhand? Even though it might not be viable i still want to play that way
Is xbow a tevent?
Do you have a questlog for your builds
How you are not getting cced against gs dagger? Like you get cced but yet some type of purification applied and you able to escape from it how is that?
Note: Yes i know you can perfect dodge with dagger and get rid of it or be invis and get rid of it but i was asking besides that 2
@@RoninRyae It's called Selfless diffusion, it removes stuns, bind and sleep CC
@@joeiteevee3604 ohh i see thank you for answer
@@joeiteevee3604 You can use selfless diffusion while being stunned?
@@ThienTran-lc1nx Yes
would you say xbow/dagger is good in 1v1 and 3v3???? or you think staff /dagger longbow / dagger are better??? since nerf ??
Possible to get a link of your build dagger+xbow ?
What about gs and wand?
Hi Joei!!ty for your video!! How i can building d/x?for u can work in a skirmish battle and ZvZ?have u a discord?
Hi, what do you think about Long bow / dagger?
Nice vid bro, like to see stuff like this, where you don’t get one shot and both side strong. Proper testing. Were you using melee evasion vs GS and range evasion gear vs bow. Or both same gear
vs bow and GS same gear
Bro hi, wats video settings used?
Hello J0EI,
Nice job, I enjoyed the clip. Could you also do some 1 vs 1 with the remaining weapon combos?
Regards!
yes I will upload some fights vs Magic users
So based on what you said, You reccomend taking dagger mainhand and xbow offhand then since the nerf?
Not always no, depends on what kind of xbow/dagger playstyle you are running.
There is 2 ways to play xbow/dag, thundercloud bombing setup(dagger focused) and frenzied sword-dance setup (xbow focused)
@@joeiteevee3604 I just want something good in pvp but I saw in late game spin to win isn't as good, I guess it all depends on how much you invest
@@GodHexe yeah if you fully invest into a really good build it can work but not sure if f2p can achieve it…
@@joeiteevee3604 one last question, how do you feel about dagger/wand?
I'm going in tomorrow and was curious as I wanted to heal but do some damage
@Joei
I was wondering is it GS / Dag or Dag / GS
Both of them use more Greatsword skills since it is simply the best form.
wow JOEL
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Hi. Ty for vidoe. Xbow/dagger and dagger/xbow the gear diff is big? Or same can be used for both?
Gear diff is not big, it's more of a skill specialization difference
@@joeiteevee3604 so its possible to switch, with same gear when need?
That last clip of GS+XBOW is actually dagger gs, brother
Thank you! I noticed :)
@@joeiteevee3604 My pleasure, thanks for all the video's bro! Do you reckon they will crack down on dagger's passives? It seems like dagger is what is driving the most of the xbow damage as well, right? I don't get the recent crossbow nerfs announced
@@DaBroughtHD The xbow is just a support weapon in these duels, the dagger carried it.
Damn cloak last a long time.. loving in that thing
make a video with sns and gs, pls
Dope!
What masteries you use on dagger when you have it as mainhand?
Bottom mastery
@@joeiteevee3604 ty bro😍
so we can clearly see in this video :
1. THEY NEED TO BUFF GS/DAGGER ! HARD BUFF !
2. NERF XBOW?DAGGER HARD TIME BIG NERF !
3.
So what i see is , next week i must make my build with xbow dagger
How do you actually challenge someone to a duel
You simply walk up to someone, ask them, do u want to play some 1v1s at kastleton arena? And if they say yes you get a duel...
is main hand and offhand weapon give different in stat? excluding playstyle
they give out different masteries for whichever weapon is out
@@joeiteevee3604 so the main weapon should be the one we use to hold and use its primary right?
are there no wand dagger enjoyers in main korea servers? Its very strong in hyperboost atleast for 1v1 in arenas lol
u kno hyperboost is korea too right
@@RAWsassin i know, but this video is in main korea server not hyperboost.
@@tsuyax6054 true that
Extremely useful vid, thanks.
What do you mean by main weapon? I thought it only affects which weapon is out by default, which enables weapon mastery passives, but other then that? Doesn't any skill use it's weapon's stats and mastery anyway?
@@Veanules im not pressing E its auto attack
@@joeiteevee3604 nvm, i looked closely to what skills you are pressing and noticed E looks like pressed all the time. Apparently it always looks like this, i just didn't notice before.
Anyway, could you elaborate about xbow+dagger not the same as dagger+xbow?
What's bow/daggers build ? :)
nice video btw
@@skylenas9346 He using Tevent bow I believe, most people in our alliance have 1-2 archboss some players have 6 different archboss weapons on 1 character.
@@joeiteevee3604 for the armor and such?
Bro is there s any different when you change your mainhand with same weapons? ist the same skill right?
There is a huge difference.
I suffer a lot for melees, they stack a lot of hit. How much evasion do you get with this build? And the guy you dueled, would you know how much hit he has?
2200 evasion with my build
Can you win against GS/Dagger ?
Did you watch the video or no
@joeiteevee3604 I've watched 7 minutes of it and realised it was a guide on how to play as Gs/Dagger,am I missing something ?
@@sanlex5982 You asked if I can win against a GS/dagger, but did you watch the fight against the GS/dagger in the video?
¿Cómo se puede hacer pvp 1v1?
Hi very nice gameplay, looks super dope🤙🏽
But how does this perform in small scale? Like 3v3 or open world?
I played 5000h pvp in elder scrolls online, so i have some genral knowledge but ofc im new in this game
It performs very well depending on how good your synergy is with your team
@@joeiteevee3604
Ar thanks
I wonder that alot classes/combos dont have survivability at all, at least its looks like that for me
How can u backup after a fight with xbow/dagger, do u have any access to heals and cc remove?
Or do u heal with potions in pvp? 🤔
can you win vs a good sns with xbow/dag?
With the right build you can, but it's very difficult and requires you to be really skilled.
How can you do 1v1 pvp?
It's a duel area in the city where people come to fight 1v1
hey bro is this game heavy skill based or is it just button mashing your big cooldowns and waiting for the first one to die
@@koetje071 Timing, rotations, defensives are important in fights. Positioning is key as well
What's the background music? Btw I enjoyed your video keep it up bro 💯
Neffex instrumental music
@@joeiteevee3604 Thanks
The problem for bow in this arena is, that there are to many walls. He can't kite a meele properly, so I don't like proper ranged testing in there.
This is true but bow/dagger is conditioned to fight well against fellow ranged users.
You literally see more numbers than the actual character how the hell am i supposed to react in real time
this build viable endgame global release?
This is t2 gears so no, not for awhile.
@joeiteevee3604 what is best 1vx build I was thinking dagger staff. Or does sns wand do enough dps to kill?
@@ikashiikashi1785 SNS wand takes too long to setup to kill but it works 1v1
@joeiteevee3604 sns greatsword then? I see patch today dagger nurfed so bad
i really feel sad for xbow. Considering that your dmg on the target is like 90% to 10% if not more in comparison to your opponent, you need so much time to kill the gs while if you reverse it (90% dmg on target from the gs to xbow) you would be dead in 2 secs. Having in mind that this 1v1 situation is almost non existant except these arranged duels, the whole patch is unfair to xbow players considering you are a glasscannon that cant properly disengage from a fight. And after all these, ncsoft nerfs it even more xD
This is unfortunately the sad reality of xbow and is why I rate it poorly in my tierlist
I would like to see a tier list for each area. Like, best weapon combination for GvG, PvP, 3v3 ecc...
Will work on that with Kanon
@@joeiteevee3604 Omg, really good know! Thanks for the work man!!
Looks like shooting a bunch of flowing diarhea xD
he is not under gear he is handless
"In this clip we are showing u how classes looks after 8 months..hundred of dollars and thousand of hours spend in the game DREAM ON BOYS AND GIRLS maybe one day and u can have it" 👀
Nice dance
After this video I will never trust anyone who says T&L combat is bad
Coz you don’t have any idea what good combat looks like and your just copium consumer just another brick in the wall congrats 🥳
Compared to bdo it's pretty trash can let's be honest
@@nathancachia1419dont play 😂
@@nathancachia1419yeah but for a tab target vs action combat ig it’s called, I’d say it’s pretty good
@@nathancachia1419 yeah but balance and essence of pvp is death af no more pk no rewards for doing pvp etc... so yeah good feeling doing combos at the dummy
VS SNS now
0 damage
No offense to the other guy but you're just built different. Both in game attributes and irl I think 😂
You saw that bow/dag shit on me bro 😂🤣
bro this gs dagger dont hit, wtf
My build is superior vs his build. Both are BiS but mine is specialized in fighting melee + ranged instead of ranged + magic
Dagger/GS trash, no control, no dmg show duel your Warriors GS/dagger plis
You have 3x stuns and 2x binds, 1x prone. Thats an insane amount of CC actually. Idk why he was not in stun lock in that test
It's not trash lol, my build is designed to fight melee + ranged users. I also have another build designed to fight range and magic users. He is geared to the teeth with double archboss, but so am I. Everyone in the video is geared properly
@@hyrulegg1 ya something is odd about it. There is no reaosn he isnt locked in CC other than a bad GS player
@@iamisobe Xbow has 1 short CC immune and one CC break. Maybe he just blocked/timed very good. Also Xbow/Dagger has most evasion ingame. Could be legit since he has solid gear
@@iamisobe The greatsword can't hit me because I'm built differently than most xbow players.
GS-Dag should have killed you, why did not ? didnt not how to play it ? this is for showing your pvp skills with the class or to show xbow-dagger op ? love you
GS-Dag should have killed me but I'm built different... This is for showing class matchups with end-game proper gearing. You already saw how little the xbow + dagger damage does compared to dagger + xbow (mainhand dagger not xbow)
@@joeiteevee3604 but on that moment against gs-dag you were using xbow on primary weapon and you won
@@josia_go6059 Yes but you also saw that he cannot land his CCs enough = this is because of either I perfect dodge them or I evade them with melee evasion. There's a good mix of both skill and proper gear setup to survive against it. Obviously if I used ranged/magic evasion I would die in a split second because I can't react fast enough to counter an SS > Ascending slash combo that's used by endgame GS/dag players.
lool GS = miss miss miss miss miss defend defend miss miss :D:D:D my Staff dagger is def going for melee evasion haha
@@Fuz2yman choose wisely 😉
This game was nice, but now, is just another spam game where u put your head on keyboard and press all you I can at same time.
so like all other mmos ? :)
Yea , now i see…
it doesn't look particularly challenging. If you have to use your own brainpower and spend a long time tinkering around, it's a challenging PvP scenario. Its own concept, which isn't based on a guide, only works well if there are clearly a lot of individual paths to take. If your own plan works and you are clearly superior, then you get the feeling that the long time it took is also confirmed + + +
I'm checking that out now and I'm pretty sure I'm going to keep my hands off the title.
It's a bit difficult to see yourself out of it without having played the game.
but..., since you're only talking about a weapon type that decides it, I think the quality is below Diablo IV : S
please enlighten me : )
for my opinion at all PvP is a big waste of time in this game. i never played it but it looks like a bad pvp supportet game : /
lol trash pvp. Trash game
Discord?
hi Coi coi. Why did you show x bow so strong? Normally gs dagger kills xbow in 3 seconds. Actually x bow is very weak my boi. x bow is Need buff ma men
Xbow is not strong... It is very weak, you can see how long it takes for xbow to kill the greatsword or the longbow... I am killing them faster with my "dagger"