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No Router Edge Profile - Woodworking Tips and Tricks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2020
- How I cut a deep chamfer on my tables with no router. Turns out you can't really buy router bits big enough to make this cut. Even if you could find them, you'd need a crazy powerful router to spin it. AND you'd need a bunch of those huge bits for every different angle. In this video I'll show you how to cut any angle (up to 45) with a track saw, and have it line up perfectly on each side.
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Scotland. The calculation is not difficult. The distance from the top of the table to the point where the cut starts is simply the distance out divided by the tangent of the angle. For 22 degrees tan(22)=0.404. Using the figures on your video (at 2.29) we have 0.5"/0.404=1.24" (measured 1.3"), 0.45"/0.404=1.11" (measured 1.18") and 0.4"/0.404=0.99" (measured 1.0"). This is within experimental error. Keep up the excellent work.
I’m shocked I was that close!
Potentially off because your saw might be cutting at 21 deg and not 22. If you do all the calcs with 21 deg then you get 1.30 in. 1.17 in. and 1.04 in., which are right on with what you measured. Awesome videos! Thanks for doing this.
Thanks meagan! It’s definitely not exactly 22 degrees.
Finally a practical example of Trigonometry in use. Thanks AppinWood and Meagan Wengrove
If you used a 45 degree angle the distances would be the same.
I'm watching from Ghana, Africa! One thing I want to commend you on is your video style. I like that you do the very infomative voice over instead of nauseating techno music.
I appreciate that Tom! Enjoy your time there
This is a valuable addition to my woodwork collection th-cam.com/users/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO I still will rate this woodwork plan as the best in my reference library. It always seem to stand out from the rest whenever you go through the library. This is a masterpiece.
I just made a walnut epoxy dining table and used this trick for a chamfer around the edge. I had never done this before and your instructions helped me do it perfectly! Thank you so much - love your work. Btw, I like the fact that you talk through it - it really helps.
I could never stop talking 😊
I'm watching from the Canary Islands (Spain). I don't have any questions, just wanted to say that I enjoy your videos a lot and that I think your work is awesome! :D
Thanks!!
The distances not being the same is probably due to the fact that you're cutting a triangle. You're track is moving along one leg of the triangle and the blade is cutting the hypotenuse. If I had to guess, your numbers would work out with A^2+B^2=C^2.
good old Pythagoras
@@ShrekMedic i have a theorem too but nobody seems to care
Ther is also C^2=A^2+B^2-2ABcos(θ) where θ is the angle opposite of C for non right triangle triangles
I appreciate that, even though I definitely don’t understand. Thanks guys!
@@BlacktailStudio
Hey you asked.... LoL
Not l that understood either, I had to have my 18yr. old engineering student (son) explain it .... Hahahah
Hi, I am an Artist blacksmith in Zirconia NC. Your work is absolutely Gorgeous!!!! Thank you so much for sharing!!!
Thanks Stephen!!
From Modesto, California . . .Thanks again for your teaching. I'm just learning my craft at age 68 . You give inspiration AND confidence . . . Generous!. I'll ask questions later DownHillCutter.
Love to hear that!
Based on your past recommendation I bought some klingspor sanding disks, they seem to last alot longer than the big box brands.
Agreed! Thanks Dom
Houston, TX. To find the length of the second leg of your right triangle you need to use the following formula: a=b*tan(angle). b= the depth of your track from the edge of the top and well your angle is 22. Since the tangent function is not linear that is why your values do not decrease in a linear fashion or an equal amount as you move the track in. Love the edge profile, it is simple and sleek but at the same time is eye-catching.
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My couch, TN, USA. Unfortunately, the Army broke me, so I'm not able to do nearly as much as I used to be able to do, so I get to watch really talented people like you do stuff on YT. This was a really awesome tips video. I think I'll try this out on an end table and see if I can get all 4 sides to match up.
Southern California. Putting so much thought into an edge profile and making adjustments to an angle that 99.9% of people would not notice is the mark of an artist - not just a great wood craftsman. I am amazed at your attention to detail. That is something for me to keep in mind going forward.
Thanks dwayne! Always appreciate your feedback
Not sure what it is but your tables are so unique and stunning, the video production, simplistic audio is just absolutely spot on. Due to your videos I'm building my own first dinning room table for my own home and that's because you inspired me to get it as perfect as yours! I'm a bathroom fitter (mainly tiling) by trade and a perfectionist by nature to, I have a feeling how perfect your tables always are is what's lead me to do this and admire your work. 👍
Wow, thanks so much William!
Wyoming. A novice and I enjoy the honesty and wisdom.
Thanks mike!
Watching in my voiceover studio - I'm PD over a number of radio stations in Western, OK - looking forward to catching the skinny on this new finish. As always, I love the content. Thanks much.
Thanks chad, it’s coming!
I'm not a wood/epoxy worker but I have done several epoxy floors and love to weld. Your work is absolutely gorgeous. Thank you for sharing your tips and tricks.
Thanks Allen!
Watching in Bremerton WA. Want to thank you for taking the time to teach with honest detail. I have learn so much from you. We also don't think you talk to much. Thanks for what you do. ~ Nicole
Cheers Nicole!
Watching from Kazakhstan. I've not really thought about making a table top or cutting board, preferring wood turning. But now I've seen the chamfered edge I want to do one. Subscribed.
Boom! Thanks Owen
Best regards from Germany from a Carpenter! You make an absolutly fantastic Job and great Videos.
Thumbs up!
Thanks!
Pakistan, I love watching these wood work videos, although i don't have most of these tools and I have never done any wood working projects, but I plan on creating a table for myself. Great work. Love it. 👍✌️
Thanks friend!
Watching from a gas station in California at 5:30am while on my way to work...thanks for the great video!
That’s good watching
Tulsa Oklahoma. I will be trying this technique on my next conference table which happens to be your favorite color black epoxy black walnut. You are my favorite maker on TH-cam. Your attention to detail is awesome I am also OCD so it makes me feel good to watch you work. I have also switch to Rubio monocoat applied with a Scotch Brite, wiped with a shop towel, then buffed for a good satin sheen. Used to use Osmo but I do like Rubio more and it cuts two days off my finish time. Keep up the amazing work
Love me some black on walnut!
In my garage watching this video and excited to hear about this favorite finish.
Thanks man!
I watch all your videos in wales 🏴 UK. Find them very inspiring. Thanks
Thanks Brendan!
Salt Lake City. Thank you for this. Video. Making a table for my wife and I wasn’t sure of the angle or offset or overhang.
Hey Cam watching from across the street. I can tell everyone that is a heavy table. Keep up the good work.
Ha! It definitely is. Always appreciate the help though!
Boise, ID. Love this idea and have sent your video to the gentleman who is making my table to get this finished look ❤ Thank you!
I really love that look it gave your table. I'll leave the mathematical equations to those experts. I personally don't care about the technical aspects of the angles. I just do what looks and feels right to me. I am not as fortunate as you guys that have track saws. I just use a really straight piece of trex 5/4 board and clamps. Little of measuring to do throughout but so did you. I am going to do this on my concrete tops because I love your angle. Thank you for your videos and your honesty throughout. It's refreshing as well as appreciated. You are a master at your craft.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks so much Greg!
Edmonton Alberta loves your channel. I’ve used a CMT 866.601.11 round over bit with good results. I do have a track saw and will have to give your method a crack, thank you.
Very cool!
Salem, Oregon. I love it when I get notification of a Blacktail video! I could watch all day. I meant to mention last time I commented that I really enjoyed the recent video where we got to learn about you and your previous life as a helicopter pilot, etc.. great stuff, Cam. Thank you. 🦆
Thanks nick! Love the local support
Very neat, practical and good-looking edge detail. I always found that putting deep chamfers on e.g. shelf edges gave a much "lighter" look concealing the true thickness behind.
I have a much more difficult edge profile challenge and this one might prompt a good deal of debate... but as you are a live-edge guru this seems very much the right place to put it up for discussion.
My challenge is to create an interlocking / matching edge for a pair of waney elm burr boards, so that the adjacent boards of a two-board table top fit into each other with minimal gaps. The figure and colour (color!) of the burrs is a key feature, and I want to avoid smoothing off the details of the edge more than necessary. The burr portions of each will inset into a relatively plain part of the adjacent board - they are boards from the same tree, placed head to tail.
To cut a matching vertical contour on the "other" board is easy (just a template and a vertical router bit) but how can it be made "3D" so there is no void below - the waney burr edges are far from vertical so there is almost no wood at the extreme edge.
Experts would of course fill with epoxy but is there a no-fill option? I think it's a really hard cut to create - even a copy-carver type device does not work because it creates a positive copy not a negative copy. The half way compromise might be to cut back from the burr (positive) edge at an angle, a bit like your straight example here, but following the edge like a scribed baseboard corner. Then make the matching angled profiled cut on the other board rather than a full 3D surface.
I hope this prompts some fun discussions and tool ideas. I've already had several completely impractical thoughts but I can't find anyone who has done this....
cheers from Cambridge, UK.
Miles
Bucharest, Romania. I will try this edge on my first resin table. I find it verry elegant. Waiting for the next video with the finishing technique. Ty for inspireing and sharing ur work, experiences and thoughts.
Me to 🙋♀️
Thanks!!
Nairobi, Kenya checking in. I really like that edge profile. I both brightens and lightens.
In Swahili - Mzuri sana bwana!
Love that! Cheers from Oregon
Just got my newborn to bed in Germany! Great video as always... short but sweet! Thanks!!
Love that Simon!
Montana (God's Own Backyard) Love the chamfer! Love also the way you strive for perfection in all that you do.
Sierra Vista, Arizona. I find myself looking forward to hearing the little bits of woodworking wisdom you share each week. Looking forward to seeing this table build.
I try! Thanks Dave!
Watching from Dordrecht in the Netherlands, but I come from Ghana and have watched all your videos.
Love that!!
Montreal, Canada enjoy watching your videos, beautiful craftsmanship
Thanks Alan!
I am watching from the lake. Love the edge. Really does take it to the next level
Next bevel if you will
@@BlacktailStudio 😊
South Florida. This edge came out really nice. Your videos are some of the best I have found. Thanks again for great content.
I appreciate that!
Thumbs up from Malaysia! Aspiring hobbyist, just started my first project about a week ago. Contents like yours really open up my eyes to the many ways of ideas and techniques of woodworking! Keep it up!
Thanks nick! Visited there last year
Australia....thanks for this.......makes a table look a million dollars with your edges... I am in my shed at this moment trying to do the same on my coffee table....
Thanks bruce!
@@BlacktailStudio don’t know how you did it but I spent hours figuring it out.. just a little movement makes a big difference to your cut...but I think I got it.. thanks cam
This one was posted for a spell before I was able to watch it from garage computer...yeah, I have a computer in my garage. I agree; anything other a straight 90 degree cut. I like the 22 degree camber you have with the top corner knocked down just a bit. I look forward to the finish video. I can't tell you how many projects went well until it was time to finish and the then headed south in grand fashion.
Thanks bud! I know you’re always good for some feedback.
I’m watching this video from the Columbia River Gorge. I love the way it looks. It gives a very elegant appearance. I’m working on a beautiful 8 foot BlackWalnut river table right now and I’m going to give it a go. Thanks for the tips!
Very cool man!!
Watching in Reedsport, Oregon! Love your videos. I just bought my first set of wood working tools. Can’t wait to get started! Thank you so much for your in depth explanation of everything you’re doing.
That’s awesome! Cool town too!
Cape Town, South Africa. This is my favorite table by far, love the legs too, simple and elegant.
Thanks josh!!
My old hometown grew up in Cpt. Stay safe baie groete
In the living room. Your tables come out looking so elegant. I love seeing them.
Thanks ray!!
Arizona and I like this. I’ll be building out new dining table soon so this gives me a good idea for an edge.
Thanks Jessica!
I live in mid Missouri and I love watching your videos. You are extremely talented!!!!
Thanks Betty!
Sofia, Bulgaria here. Awesome tips! Thanks.
Thanks!
Watching in Oxford... really enjoying your channel.... bing watching over the past couple of weeks. Wish I could find timber like yours near here... such great choice. Thanks for the great video and commentary.
Thanks david!
Cam, watching all the way from South Africa. Love your work and especially love your precision finishing.
Kansas City - great video. I like the unique chamfer detail. Thanks
I hadn't really given the edge profile much thought before but now that yo mention it...
I really like the one you did today. Great video as always. Thanks Cam.
Thanks for saying so
Texas... No Question, just wanted too say that I do find your videos very helpful
I appreciate that!
England- You create the coolest tables. Your videos are detailed as well.
Thanks so much!
Portland, OR. I was actually at Creative Woodworking on Tuesday for the first time (my first big 9 gallon river table pour) and one of the guys working there looks almost just like you, so I had to do a double take lol. They asked me how I heard of them, and I dropped your name. Hope you don't mind. By their reaction, you seem to have a good reputation with them. 25 minutes to sand down my table for $75 was well worth it, compared to the hours of routing via router sled if I did it myself. Highly recommend.
That’s awesome! They’re a good bunch. And 9 gallons?? That’s a lot!
Northern Ireland.. Love the edge profile.. Great job as usual👌🏻👌🏻
Thanks Paul!
Watching in Bucks County, PA. Can't wait to try using the track saw to play with this. Really looking forward to your video on the finish you use, Thanks. Larry. No Walls Studio.
Thanks Larry!
My living room in Sherwood park Alberta! I really appreciate all the tips you give, thanks Cam. Looking forward to see the build on that table! Have a great day.
Thanks Robert!!
Watching from Mississippi. Not as exciting compared to where some of these viewers are located ha. I Enjoy watching your videos and looking forward to the next.
Still cool!
Ran into your channel randomly but I've watched 3 or 4 of your videos definitely subscribing
Also watching from my couch in Windsor Ontario Canada!!
Thanks!!
Watching from Michigan, at work. Enjoy all your videos. And wishing I could make the amazing tables u make. Going to try a night stand this summer.
Awesome, good luck Zach!
I love your work and watch it while im at work every day
Love that!
I’m watching this video while cooling off in my basement. That table looks absolutely stunning!
Good for you!
Looks really good. I like the out-of-the-box thinking.
Thanks Andrew!
Love ur video from SOUTH Africa 🇿🇦
Thanks!!
Watched from 🇨🇦! And just discovered your channel, so subscribed too. Now I’ll look for the video about that finish. Thanks!
I'm with you -- just about anything beats a square edge profile. I'm watching this in So Cal. Eagerly awaiting your video on the build/finish.
Thanks don!
Watching from my garage in NC, trying to get ideas for the standing desk I’m building. I think this is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks for the great video, I’m gonna give this a go.
Watched the video from start to finish. I love love love the chamfer idea on the edges. Your tables are beautiful.
Thanks rob!
Bull Mountain. OR. Love this chamfered edge. Just finishing my first table where I tried epoxy for the first time. You lighted the path for me. Also used Tung Oil for the first time. The piece of Parota and its live edge was just too nice to cover with Stain. I have another piece with a more rectangular shape. This chamfered edge will be the way to go. I may also use Rubio on that one thanks to you suggestion. Keep it up!
Love that! I might be moving to bull mountain
Sea of Galilee, Israel
Love to watch your video's, thank you for the detailed builds 👍
Thanks!
Work, nightshift at a nuke plant in GA but I'm from TN... TMI I know, lol. Beautiful work Cam. Love the chamfer look. Looking forward to the finish video. Until next time. *Chris*
Thanks Chris!!
Nice, I'm gonna try this on a table i just finished. Thank you!
Watching from my living room in Rhinelander wi. I really love live edge tables. I like the conformity of the straight edge but the live edge brings something totally different into the tables. So much character is added.
Thanks McKenna!
Watching from home. I have to say I am supper impressed that you took the time to learn enough Finnish to make a whole video. Mind telling how long it took to learn, Finnish is one of the hardest languages to learn. So big props to you for doing it. ;) :P
And here is the ass*ole! 😘
I’m still learning!
Scotland. Great result! Have done similar, on a much sales project, but with a veritas low angle jack plane. I’ve been trying to use only hand tools where possible.
That would be very nice!
Florida, love your work and your videos are packed with great info.
Thanks Toni!
England. That gorgeous epoxy draws you in like a black hole. The wood looks great too! Awesome
Thanks!!
Watching from Ohio. Very nice profile. Really enjoy your videos.
Thanks Eddie!
I'm watching from South Africa
I'm finally going to start this Sunday with my first project and I'm only 15 and got almost all my tools for free for just helping people around the house
Can’t wait to visit Africa
Good on ya boet
Groete van Australia
Thanks, awesome tip!
I've watched this in The Netherlands btw
San Luis Potosi, Mexico. just wanted to say hi. your finishes are amaizing. Cant wait to try someting like it
Middlesbrough....UK....Beautiful table and great work.
Thanks!!
Very unexpected profile. I absolutely love it. It's different and it has flair. Very classy. Thanks.
Thanks Jo!!
Calgary. When trying to acquire a certain depth of bevel, you could take your initial measurement of .50 equaling 1.3" and write it out .50 over 1.3" = .35 over X inches
Eg. #1) .35 x 1.3" ÷ .50 = .91"
Eg. #2) .50/1.3" = .40/X"
.40 times 1.3" divided by .50 = 1.04"
Could save some trial and error.
Hope it can help.
Awesome piece, by the way!
My living room on my phone in Scranton, PA. USA. Your work is beautiful.
Thanks Tammy!
Love this technique. Now I know how to get a 60 degree taper on my cantilevered shelf I am making for the study. That chamfer incidentally lines up then with the taper on my blackwood desk I have here
Watching this while waiting to close my pharmacy for the day! I love those profile edges.
Thanks Caleb!
Jefferson, Oregon... Hey!!! you are up over a quarter of a million subs already! Congrats! Keep up the good work. :)
Thanks Kara! You know Adam Nelson??
South Africa, I love the edging and finish. Nice one
Thanks!!
Egypt , very big fan of your fine work sir , absolutely stunning
Thanks Ahmed!!
I am watching this video while cutting a chamfer on my wife's kitchen table :)
no question though #LoveTheExtraCredit
Vancouver, WA, usa, Such a huge help thank you!
Ya man!
Winchester, KY love these kinds of videos that you do. I'm always wondering how someone did or made something. You're doing a great job, Cam!
From Cancun, Mexico.... loved those chamfers, they look very elegant, reminded me of a Van Beuren dinner table at my parents house, the only thing is that it was round, so now I wonder how they did it....
Thanks Carlos!
Edges are small but make or break the style.
Thanks for the share
From Boyne City Michigan
Agreed Kevin!
Oops. Commented before the end of the video. I'm watching from the west coast of British Columbia, Canada.
Ha! Cheers
Incredible finishing, like always. From Barcelona, Spain. We are delighted with your work!! 💪
Cheers!