Nvidia GTX 1060 Review - RX 480 Killer?
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This got recommended after RTX 3090 leaked...
TH-cam now know our financial status as well.
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Here after it got released :)
Ik I might buy it or should I save it up for the 2070 ??? if this is a good cheap gaming grafics card ???
@@spacefacegaming it’s a good card but I’d save up for the 2070
Where are 1080p benchmarks? Poeple won't buy these to play in 1440p and 4k, FFS...
Look at HardwareCanucks' video on this card.
Rahul Katre I've seen it, thanks. I don't know what was Luke thinking with leaving 1080p benchmarks out, majority of people who will buy RX 480 and GTX 1060 will be using them for that resolution...
right? how many people have 1440p monitors? I think that people who bought good 1080p ones won't flock to buy 1440p ones to replace what they have.
i got a 1080 for 1080p. because all games i play i get 20 fps 720p on this pc, so im making sure i dont fuck up this time
NecronexX Complete overkill. An RX 480 would have sufficed, at max, a 1070.
6 years later and the 1060 is still the Single most used card on steam....
You mean rx 480?
@@789uio6y no, I meant 1060, cause at the time of my comment, the 1060 6gb was still the most used card according to steam
Four games.
No 1080p benchmarks.
No dx12/vulkan.
Useless
Well, games haven't really come with DX 12 and Vulkan yet. Doom has Vulkan but the 480 would instantly win that. And 1440p is pretty useless unless it's 4k. 1080p is already better than 900p. So why use 1440p and sacrifice graphics if all you're going to get is higher pixels?
My thoughts exacly
Agreed.
If it can run at a higher res than 1080p then it will run at 1080p. Simple as that
+??? yes the rx480 would win the doom on vulkan benchmark. That's because amd's current architecture is better with dx12 and vulkan (whether it's async or because all consoles run amd hardware, or something else I don't know, but the benchmarks show it). It's NOT bias to include it, it IS bias not to -as was done in this 'review'. dx12 and vulkan are the future, and the first game to come out with vulkan shows a huge increase in performance for the rx480. Hitman on dx12 is also better on amd. What's worse, the 1060 also scores higher on doom with vulkan (true only a few fps, but it's higher nonetheless) making it even stranger not to include it.
I want fucking linussssssssss
Are you gay?
You sound like you want linus to toss your salad.
+Rattacko Yes
4:42
andydabeast dont tease us
the 60 series has always been about value and midrange... why the sudden price increase? fucking shit
ye, pc building is getting harder and harder for people with a budget. it seems like the companies only care about high performance overpriced cards and less about good performance cheaper cards.
Sander Egberts good thing I was able to get the 960 4gb on sale in my place before it ran out of stock. Nvidia is jacking up prices... as much as I hate to say it, consumers need amd or a new god damn competitior to balance the prices. This is ridiculous, taxes are not yet included! I bet the 1060 would be priced $350 here which is crap
+Sander Egberts What? PCs are cheaper than ever these days (not in Canada, cuz of our shit dollar, but in the us) The RX 480 can be picked up for like $270 and has performance of a $320 dollar card. Lol when the macintosh came out it was like $4000 shit
Cougarbites we are talking about Nvidia here. The 1060 is now a high end card... no longer a midrange card like its predecessors. I also have yet to see the successor of the GTX 750ti or 950... I doubt I will ever see them. Huge loss for budget oriented pc gamers who wants to stick with nvidia
$200 for a 480 not good enough? that's cheap for a GPU
good time to be a gamer? Well not here in 2017... Darn cryptocurrency miners. Sigh
> $300
yeah right
the rx 480 from xfx that I bought in 2016 for 300€ is now worth over 600 or somewhere even 800€. ofc new, but on ebay it is still 300-500 €.
that is just brutal
Finally...the winter has ended..light..is appearing...PRICES ARE GOING DOWN! :D
Message from the future:It gets worse
Hahaha purchased it in 2016 before the boom of Bitcoin.
You can't call this a review
absolutely agree. garbage
Why not? They went over specs, showed information about fps in popular games, price to performance, heat output and power usage AND compared all of this information to the best suited AMD card.
What more do you want? As FrenchToast wrote, they gave all of the vital info. There really isn't much else to cover in a graphics card review.
How about DX12 games or Doom Vulkan? How about in regards to how the video cards have aged from previous Gen NVidia vs AMD. This is just a slap together write up to make sure NVidia keeps giving them reference cards and will sponsor them in the future. This channel is a joke avoid it!
Those are some good ideas. I wish I had the money otherwise I start a tech based channel and buy all of my own hardware for reviews. Just like I do on my channel with audio gear. :-)
DX12? vulkan??? actual power consumption????
OTHER GAMES!!!???
why is this video even out?
Dx12 isn't a thing in like 2 years it'll matter so hiw do you review potential performance
do you rly expect a serious review from LinusTT?!
look at the title they only want ur view and to click. the quality of information coming from Linus is going downhill. it's all a marketing scam now. I watched many other videos on the 1060 that gave way more info than this. it's sad what Linus media has become
SHOW US VULKAN!
simple because
dx12, nvidia fails
vulcan, nvidia fails
power consumption, also fails.
Bang on time as NDA lifted everyone releasing their vids.
The specs seem really crap compared to the 480 or the R9 390; both of which are cheaper. I have serious doubts about its future longevity.
What? Did you not notice the nvidia specific features? Lower tdp and heat? Better performance in real time gameplay? Lol, Buying the rx 480 would be a big mistake if you overclock the gtx 1060.
On paper it's most of the time AMD > nVidia. BUT (and that's a BIG BUT) the way nVidia utilizes what it has is Much more efficient than what AMD does. It's similar to the iOS vs Android debate. Android flagships now ship with 3-4GB of RAM, and iPhones have 1-2GB, and yet, they perform very similarly if not even faster on the iOS side which seems worse on paper. It's almost exactly the same for AMD vs nVidia
I just don't get how the Nvidia cards seem to outperform the AMD cards which wipe the floor with them on paper (more RAM, bigger interface, more SPUs, more TAUs etc.)
***** If you read my comment you'll understand
aaaaaaand with what clue?????
No DX12? No Vulcan? No 1080p? This review is a joke.
This card is better, AMD drivers are shit.
As a long time amd user, I have to agree that amd drivers are shite.
Mud at least amd wont drop drivers like nvidia on kepler
2016: The 1060 is king 👑.
2021: The 1060 is the most average GPU.
2022: The 1060 is the lowest GPU for VR
2026: The 1060 is now obsolete.
2032: The 1060 can't run Minecraft at minimum settings.
I saw some benchmarks, the rx480 was a bit quicker in most games on dx 12, but the gtx 1060 was better on dx 11
on 1080p settings however
Neither of these cards are for anything above 1080p...they both suck at 1140p and can't even run 4K.
I meant 1440p btw
austinr09 on won't be running 1440p anyways, my monitor is a 1080p
See it like this, they used the old drivers of AMD + DX11 is the past DX12 and Vulkan are the future.
Benchmarks start at 3:12 for the lazy.
Lad, cheers mate
Or for the ons that want to save data
You're a lifesaver.
Who cares about LTT benchmarks nowadays anyways, i like their other videos but in terms of benchmarks it's like watching Nvidia's channel.
+Helodon
IKR, it's actually kind of pathetic people actually take their benchmarks seriously anymore.
Theyve blatantly removed the sli connector because
A: They dont want people to buy two 1060's instead of a 1080.
B: Its obvious theyre trying to reduce costs by dropping sli support.
C: Linus tech tips needs to get of nvidias dick.
Because AMD killed SLI/Xfire for most future games.
your assuming perfect scaling and that doesn't happen, these would probably beat a 1070 maybe but it wouldn't reach 1080 levels of performance
jaryn ellis The 480 in xfire is a tiny bit slower than the 1080 and beats it in some games, if the 960 is faster than the 480 it would be faster than the 1070 when in sli. logic
jaryn ellis i dont think ytouve been watching any of the benchmarks, 480s in crossfire destroy the the 1070
Strange, 2 RX 480's surpass a 1080, isnt this card better than an RX 480?
DX12? Vulcan? WTF all DX11 games bench marked ? new card old api`s
Yeh i noticed and truly agree
Is not using paralel asych , just take it 1 by 1 !
well thats what you get if you use the cards now. a lot of games people will end up playing will be dx11. doesnt invalidate the results. Like i get what you're saying but right now, game developers are catching up and the number of games actually utilizing dx12 is somewhere around maybe 20, optimistically.
+ old drivers :
They're probably being paid to make it look like AMD's cards are worse. (Before you say it, I'm not a fanboy. I've owned cards from either side and I don't have any real bias)
so basically these two cards aren't competing with each other
Pretty much
yes.
I think they are competing with each other. I don't think nVidia will release a lower card soon that would "compete" with the rx480... The 1060 is their answer to the rx480. All reviewers said it, the 1060 has to beat the rx480 without being to close to the 1070.
If nVidia would release another card, I don't expect it to beat the 480 performance wise.
that's what nvidia damage control wants you to believe. Nvidia's answer to the rx480 was this card but they failed miserably. Paying around 100$ more (depending on your region) for circa 7% performance is extremely dumb. Not to mention amd cards are more future proof (just look at kepler cards, the 780ti is raped by de r7 370 in doom vulkan)
1050 maybe>?
why no DX12/ Vulcan games?
like, why is hitman and tomb raider running in DX11 mode?
Fair test
Other reviewers have dx12 benchmarks
The 480 beats the 1060 in hit man dx12
I'm pretty sure gamers nexus had DX12 /Vulcan benchmarks . Check out their channel
Hitman is not that bad, Tomb raider on the other hand. But after i saw the benchmarks on vulkan. the only winner is Amd.
They have to test both cards in Dx12 tomb raider with the latest patch( it increases AMD performance by a lot)
i think they are idiots on this video
My laptop has a 6 GB 1060 in it and I swear by that thing to this day it is absolutely amazing
Can confirm. They nailed the steam hardware survey as well
I'll just stick with my 970 for another year and I'll invest.
***** And vr doesn't seem worth it either
same here
***** It just sucks how expensive it is for a vive and a 1070.
same sadly i bought mine only 5 months ago R.I.P
Prices only drops when new tech has been released on the market, but since the Titan's, no new "groundbreaking" tech or cards has hit the market, which has put prices to a standstill.
My 4 year old GTX660 still costs about 200$ in stores.... thats ALOT for a card that old.
Wow that feeling of being viewer 102 on a Linustechtips video
or 1661
or 2861
it feels like a lightning bolt just hit the tip of my penis
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Am i the only one who can't stand Luke?
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Yes.
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aw I love luke
Luke is a precious cinnamon roll.
Could you imagine the 480 with vulcan running on 1080p? I want to see a review of that because 1080p and vulcan is what makes the 480 an awesome sweet spot for $200
and here lives the 1060, 5 years old and crushing steam surveys like there's no tomorrow, even i still have one
Fucking stupid pricing in Australia, $500 when compared to the 480 which is $320.
fuck 500? really. well there goes the idea of them competing here
The whole 1000 series card lineup is so much more expensive in stores than what Nvidia advertised :/
At least you don't have to pay almost $1600 for a 1080 in Brazil. Seriously fuck this country
+Anze G it's because most are sold out, so prices are being jacked up until they get back in stock.
masterman3349
You'd think a massive company like that could keep up with the supply....
480 killer? I dont think so try vulkan with that and 1060 gets ripped into shreds
idk about ripped to shreds but all ive seen is that it matches the 1060 or gets like 3 fps more in dx12/ vulcan except on hitman idk whats going on with that game at all for there to be that much of a difference. but the 1060 has 6gb ram vs the 480 standard 4gb unless you pay more. also it runs cooler and produces less noise. also not many games using vuncan/ dx 12 and alot of titles coming out still arnt using it and prob wont be for another year imo not saying its a killer tho in reality this is one hundred percent personal choice here since once they do come out with dx12 and vulcan games 480 will match it and it cost less and can crossfire while 1060 cannot sli at all
it definitely is ripped to shreds, look at Doom with Vulkan www.hardocp.com/article/2016/07/19/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1060_founders_edition_review/4
*****
You better find these hundreds of thousands of other games if you want to make such a fucking stupid statement.
***** do you understand future games are gonna have vulkan dx12 right? that means 480 is more future proof and you can crossfire when you need to upgrade while the 1060 has to be trashed after the games are too demanding
they also win in warhammer and probably any other AAA title due for release in the next 3 years. But dont let that stop you buying for DX11
And here I am stuck on a GTX 750
Have been there, mate.
+SiggerAB and i have my trusty ol' 560 ti
Legomaker60 Ahahaha, okay. I don't have the best PC anyways, but it does the job ;). i5-4460(Z97) and GTX 970.
Play all my games just fine and that's what matters ;).
+Soulpunisher123 are u talking to me or him?
Legomaker60
I think he's talkin' to you both xD :)
If this is a mainstream card, Why are there no 1080p benchmarks?
Because the Linus crew live in a 1440p/4K world.
Cos "ONLY" 80% of the world are countries with lower standards than USA. LinusTechTips is simply loosing its vibe and common sense it seems.
In my country.... gtx 1060 cost as average pay. Arm and leg in other words. :D
Oh wow! Here in the USA a 1060 is about two days of work for the average job...BEFORE taxes. After taxes, about 3 1/2 days of work.
For what it's worth, I'm rocking a 560 Ti. Running it into the ground until the wheels fall off.
because it clearly crushes everything 1080 @ 60fps. it is a 1440 card with 8 and 6 and 4 gb of vram imo and I'm sure many will disagree. although I can see why youd confuse because the price point is at a place that previous cards struggled at 1080p with. say thank you to amd :). also to be fair if it hits 60fps at 1440 you can guarantee it will at 1080
Its two weeks of work after taxes, at minimum wage.
$300 and no SLI ? seriously ?
if the game could support 1060 SLI, it can (the gpu itself has the SLI support. somewhere in the video).. but for me, i go with rx 480 for now...
Even on official nvidia site it says that it doesn't support SLI.
+ALph4 (ALph4) really? then too bad..
Fience Gerald But that DX12 multi adapter thing might work. Not sure tho.
TBH if you are buying this budget card (come on man its $300) and you wanted to run SLI, you should probably buy a 1080 for $600....
so much bullshit in a short time.
Though the 1080 was 600€, put on the marked for 800€
Thought the GTX 1070 was 400€, put on the marked for 550€.
Thought the RX 480 would be 200€, became 350€. (100€ more expensive then the better performing GTX 970.)
And now the 1060 for 450€...
And now the
Different countries?
+ArdaBlock Yes, holland. ALOT of things are expensive to import.
+noobkiller117 200$ = 180€ but the RX 480 still costs 350.
+noobkiller117 not the video, all the prizes lately with all the new GPU's released.
Netherlands? i bought an RX480 (8 GB) for 269 euro's at Azerty and they also had the 4GB version for 219 euros. And the 1060 is 283 euros according to the Hardware Info review. The 1070 is 500-550 that's right :(
So basically if you have 970/390 or higher, don't spend your money and just wait until the next generation.
Yeah i think so, that's what I'm gonna do :)
And for R9 270x? I probably need an update soon..
havΘc Depends on what type of games you play. But if I were you, and you could afford the 1070, I would go for that. If not the 1060 would offer performance on par or slightly above the 390/970.
Probably not worth it if you're just going from a 970 to a 1060 but I can tell you right now that going from a 970 to a 1070 was TOTALLY worth it for me. My 970 struggled at 1440p with high settings in newer games. My 1070 does 60FPS maxed out without breaking a sweat. It ended up being a lot more than I was initially prepared to pay but buttery smooth 1440p gaming is AMAZING
Haha I went from a GTX 550 ti to a GTX 1070.
My life has changed
"can it live up to the hype" well.... Been the number 1 card on steam for 6 years and it's still holding strong for 1080p gaming. The little legend that could
Obviously you testing the games in DX11...
i was surprised they didn't just go the whole way and just test DOOM in openGL...
+Grimm Zane check gamers nexus their not biased and show more results .
Abe Thanks!
Abe yep have it in another tab lol ^ ^ did you see jayz2cents? lol he put an oftermarketOC 1060 against a stock nonOC/non-powerlimit raised 480....
+Mario I don't think you've seen the rx 480 in DOOM OpenGL and DX12 games..
The FPS performance isn't that drastic. Which ever is cheaper you might as well get. RX 480 or GTX 1060 there both really great cards. You can't go wrong with both. They're pretty similar. Pleases stop fighting guys... :(
Even if the AMD cards were dramatically cheaper I would still go for the more expensive Nvidia card simply because more games work optimally with Nvidia technology than AMD.
***** Well some people don't necessarily need to spend $50+ dollars for a small performance boost. But if that's you concern than that's perfectly okay. I currently play Fallout 4 and AMD cards really have poor optimization for the game (currently running an i7-4770k and R9 280x). I still see some large FPS drops sadly.
Adam Cross thats ironic how Nvidia monopoly work in GPU Market,,
Gudang Satu lol
Uh the fps performance is pretty drastic for sure, but then again the price difference is too. They already said the rx480 smashes it on price/performance I don't really get what the big deal is.
"It's a good time to be a PC gamer"
Oh god.. Time flies..
Why hesitate to give some credits to the AMD so much?
they get sponsorships from NV also NV blacklists reviewers that don't give them extreme marks and stop sending them free review sample cards. its obvious by their use of old AMD drivers and only dx11 games that they are extremely bias and paid shills
Just as AMD got blocked in CPU market even tho AMD contributed a lot to the development of CPUs, took the lead from Intel who played dirty and paid hefty money to the companies that buy AMD products to stop buying. Which destroyed the AMD's income with making their investment of development useless. If They wouldn't kick that lazy ass of Intel, Intel would keep playing its' own monopoly selling us expensive but useless CPUs. End of competition is never good for us, some people don't understand that and keep being fanboys.
1070 > 1060 > 1080 in my opinion (for value)
1070 still isn't a "value" card. It's fast, 980Ti level fast, but it hasn't decreased the price band much from the 980Ti. Maxwell was a much better value range of cards (the good ones such as 950, 970, 980Ti that is).
Ehh depends. If you're locked into a 4k panel already the 1080 is pretty valuable when it's the only card that can runs games decently at 4k ;p
The 1080 isn't standout amazing versus the 980Ti though, that's what GP100 or whatever will be. It'll become the new 980 when it drops. I would stick with my 980Ti then upgrade later to a 1080Ti were I at 4K. That's assuming they don't do an insane price jack on that too.
But who games at sub 120htz? neither panels nor gpu's are there for 4k gaming yet :P
Yeah I'm still running a 980 Ti and the only upgrade I'm really considering is getting a second 980 Ti.
So you didn't bring up about how AMD is killing it with vulkan... curious.
+MRsjovealek #madfanboi
Just barely would like to see what happens with the real stuff the cards will be using like dx12 and vulkan.
+MRsjovealek source?
+MRsjovealek so where is the 1060s asynchronous compute support?
"Destroys?" No. Both cards are trading blows in DX12 games. Also, with the Nvidia tax on the reference cards and another paper launch, the RX 480 is a good choice.
I've been on the red team since 1999.
I changed to amd first 2011, now I have a full amd rig.
I'm STILL rocking a 2gb 7850 with good results even in new games at 1080p. I might just wait for Vega.
i hate how they review using the founders edition then have the audacity to do price ratios! who the fuck buys a founders edition?!
Me :(
+63JackBlack that was not meant to be offensive i just meant that there are cheaper options that they should have compared
actually gtx 1060 FE zotac is cheaper than rx 480 gb ref here so yeah and I also have gtx 1070 fe people buy fe for watercooling and the cool design
+THE GAME BENCHMARKER oh i didnt know that the fe's were the only cards with the watercooling option. U kearn somethin every day
They're mainly used for mini ITX builds. The blower style cooler I mean.
Why would you want to pay WAY more for Founders crap when the 480 is only 10fps lower in just about every game. It's not worth paying all that money for barely and performance boost.
due to power draw differences the Rx 480 will cost you more in the long run
Kevin Vu the power draw will be different with the non reference cards hopefully
because the Nvidia cards are designed overall better? What do you think Nvidia does with its money? they invest heavily into R&D, your nvidia card is always going to run less hot, use less power, and run more efficiently, the RX 480 can look as awesome as it wants on paper, but in the end its still just another card where they boost the core count, and boost the frequencies to the point where the car is almost on fire constantly, and made no actual changes, where nvidia spent money and time to at least make a change, and to push tech forward.
xxroyalxtigerxx paying a whole lot more money just for a few fps? Not worth it imo
+Mike Brown 50$? for an overall better designed card, cooler running, less power using and so on? If someone was looking for longevity Nvidia is the obvious choice. If all that's important to you is initial $/FPS go right ahead buy, but Nvidias better power delivery and cooling will easily push this card well past the rx480 when over clocking comes into play.
h4h4 nvidia bias the whole video. no dx12 no vulcan
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It's turned into NvidiaShillTips. If they really were serious about testing the card with no bias and on as level a playing field as possible, they would have used some of the new Vulkan and DX12-supporting games. They just don't want to show that the 480 pulls ahead easily in newer APIs, increasing in performance by almost 50%.
KemoKa77 it really seemed like they rushed the review to get it out on the NDA skipping very important areas. dx12 is the future and new AAA titles will use it that you will play on your new graphics card. if i wanted to play DX11 i would get a 980 on ebay
Yes, because using the newest and least common technologies as a benchmark is a good idea for the review. Majority of the games don't run, on dx12, nor benefit from it, also not so many games utilize Vulkan API yet. So what's the point of making a review focused on that? You both have no idea what you're talking about. Of course, it would've been nice to have all of them included side by side, but not as a primary benchmark for comparison. It's as dumb as judging monitors by their ability to support 5k resolution. That day is far, far away. For the time being, keep your AMD bias to yourselves.
its new hardware but its on the budget level, and an awful lot of games still don't take advantage of dx12...
TH-cam knows you can't buy a rtx 3060 so it recommended this
watching this after I already bought one, put it in my rig, and several months have passed ... anticipating the let down
Team Green:
GTX 1080 > Titan X by 30% = $599
GTX 1070 > Titan X by 5% = $379
GTX 1060 > GTX 980 by 5 to 10% = $249
Pros: Cons:
1.Enthusiast performance king 1.Founder's Edition
2.Best power efficiency 2.No SLI fingers ( but can still do SLI)
3.Mid range performance king 3.Weaker Async support
4.Best overclocker 4.Closed source and proprietary tech.
5.Runs cooler
6.Better drivers for DX11 games
7.Sleeker design
8.GTX 980 performance at half
the price
9.Ansel
10.SMP
11.Better VR performance
12.Higher quality reference cooler
13.Better 3rd party vendors
Team Red:
RX 480 8GB = GTX 970 = $239
RX 470 = GTX 960 = $149/$169
RX 460 = GTX 950 = $89/$109
Pros: Cons:
1.Best Vulken, Async support 1.Power throttling issues
2.Cheapest next gen cards 2.Doesn't oc well on stock cooler
3.Crossfire support @ mid range 3.Crappy driver support upon AAA game launch
4.GTX 970 performance @ $200 4.Cheap plastic reference cooler
5.Display Port 1.3 support
6.Premium VR
7.Good driver maturation
8.Open source approach
hmm seems like 480 is a better deal despite 1060 winning in some titles by 5-20%.. probably heavily favored by nvidia.. in any case amd does have async and vulkan gains are worth it.. plus gcn improvements in the future 1060 probably fall behind by 20-30%
in dx12 games such as hitman the rx 480 destroys the 1060. same with vulken games.
+joshua powell if the 480 "destroys" the 1060 in dx12 hitman then the 1060 rapes, kills and canabalizes the 480 in every other game. sure, if all you want to play is assholes of the single manatee, dx12 hitman, or doom with the Vulcan API, those 4 fps are precious.
stop fanboying.
Stickbo i own a 1070. im no fanboy. vulcan and dx12 are the future and thats where amd are wining. also freesync is alot cheaper than gsync and crossfire on the amd 480 and no sli on the 1060? the 1060 is worthless.
+stickbo I'm pretty sure you are the one fanboying here...
+joshua powell at the moment there are not enough dx 12 games to properly test these cards without the developers favouring a certain card
This is probably their most empty GPU review ever. So few benchmarks, so little in-depth information. I know they want to keep it an enjoyable, not-too-long video, but this is rather pointless...
Back in the days of sub 500$ good GPUs. Went from a 1060 3gb to a 4070ti just recently and my God was that a stupid expensive grab. Really was a good time to be a PC gamer back then
so you are telling me that 2 rx 480s in cross fire will destroy this card and it cant do shit about? or if I buy another 960 I can also destroy this card?, I really don't like nvidia anymore, my next GPU will be an AMD gpu! and AMD are getting some nice features and cross fire will scale so well that it won't be worth buying a card like the 1060.
Their recent drivers have also seemed to be getting better. Definitely switching to AMD for my next setup.
+Spud_TheSquid I think alot of people are going team Red because they are the one company that doesn't screw you over, my friend has already sold his 960 and got a 390! and I'm waiting for a better cooler on the 4gb 480!
I now have been using an 390 for approximately one year after I switched from my old 770. Honestly, I don't understand why people keep saying that AMD's drivers are crappy. Everything works perfectly well with nearly no issues.
mm nup, still sticking with nvidia. Still the best card for content creators.
crossfire sucks. sure, if all you want to do is run benchmarks and measure your edick, it's great, but for playing games it's not worth the headache. don't buy a 480 with the intention to buy a second later on. you are MUCH better off saving for a better single card. or ignore me, make the same mistake we all did, and go sli/crossfire and throw money down the toilet.
Was anyone else just a little disappointed that they didn't weigh in on the NVIDIA claim that this was going to beat the 980 in performance?
I know online people are comparing this to the RX480, but NVIDIA themselves said better than 980 performance... so the comment that this wasn't an equal comparison is sort of lost on the original claims.
Come on guys!
It is better in most games but 980 is better than 1060 in some games about 3-4 fps.
they said it would have 980 levels of performance, meaning it is within the margin or error...and it is, so....
It is just around 980 performance by what I've seen (Guru3D, TechPowerUP, HardwareCanucks)
If you check out HardwareCanucks video they show a much more detailed comparison of these cards to the previous NVIDIA and AMD cards. Kinda dissappointed with how "shallow" this comparison was.
These AMD fanboys are crying like crazy. GTX 970 is the real price to performance card. I got my gtx 970 ftw+ for $120 second hand (Negotiable) and overclocked it and it performs better than a stock gtx 980. There is no point buying gtx 1060 unless you can get a very good deal , it overclocks good. I'd say gtx 1060 or a cheap 970 , also rx 480 for 1080p , 980 ti for 1440p (you find one for 400 bucks and it is totally worth it because it overclocks like a champ) and overclocked 980 ti for 4K , but if you want to get best single card in the market for a little bit over $600 and don't plan to overclock for 4k gaming as well . get a gtx 1080.
4090? Naaah, I'm still using a 1060😎
True chad
rx480 also has crossfire support which also is worth a mention. If you're willing to pay 50$ more for an about 5fps difference you might as well go for a 1070 in the first place. For a budget build the 480 is a winner!
For a budget build 6 years ago, It's almost 2023 and I just now installed the 480 cuz I'm so poor lol
@@andrewk8636Lol prices came down a lot luckily. GPUs are still way too expensive, but at least they arent being scalped
The RX 480 can Crossfire for future upgrade potential. It's also cheaper. This is easy math.
In most countries it the same price but then nvidia has better performance
+JohnnyNismo Nvidia always has a better performance, but its always more expensive, like with intel and the amd cpus.
funny since CF does not work at all in 5/10 games.
+Bartek Radożycki I've used SLI for the last several years up until I got a GTX 980 towards the end of last year. SLI has scaled well for me. The last set I ran were GTX 760s. They were slightly faster than the 980 but only had a 2GB frame buffer; the motivation for my upgrade. The cards were fine in every major and semi major title. I say all this to let you know that you have no idea what you're talking about. Google has all of the facts to backup my experience.
JohnnyNismo dude, I said CF, not SLI -_-
Does that look like an upgrade potential? pclab.pl/art70455-27.html
you can't go wrong with either of these cards. I got my 970 over a year and a half ago and it's insane to see both these cards beat it for over $100 less than what I got mine for
What a great year for gaming! AMD RX480, NVIDIA 1070, NVIDIA 1080, NVIDIA 1060, awesome overkill Intel workstation CPU's, DOOM, loads of other new games, new variants of Xbox announced, and I got an awesome new PC! What a great time to be a gamer, pc or console!
It's turning into a tv show, I miss the old Linus
Handheld, unboxing random toys, unscripted, messing around, etc.
Another eview with no comparison showing Doom whilst running Vulcan? rumor is that the 480 is around 30% faster...
Don't trust rumors. Everyone knows that.
yeah lets buy a gpu which runs only in doom faster LUL
I mean in doom I can hit 60 fps on ultra 1080p with a 2 gb 960 so Vulcan doesn't really help me that much anyways right now.
+Warcry54 ikr and like in 2-3 months when Nvidia catches up in Vulcan and dx12 I'll love to see what amd fans will say
+Spencerwalker21 they won't and can't because there pascal architecture is already set in stone. So you will have to wait for their next generation to even possibly have half the shit AMD has had on the GPU 's fit years now which is why with the implementation of vulkan and directx 12 is like a free generation upgrade for every AMD GPU owner currently. The new api are based off mantle which is AMD tech, and you better believe that open gl and directx 11 is a thing of the past since both new API 's make it easier to port from console which by the way consoles are full AMD tech which means if developers want their games to run better they will start using either vulkan solely on ps4 or directx 12 on Xbox. And both of those API 's run better on AMD. Look if you want nvidia I can't stop you, all I can do is try to tell you that if you are wanting to make a machine now that is future proofed for the next 2 to 3 years your better option is AMD since as soon as everyone starts adopting the new API and they will! It will work best on AMD at least till the next generation GPU comes from nvidia which will be the 1100 series and even then we can't be sure.
AMD was probably so proud of themselves.. Then Nvidia comes along and just fucking destroys them
LTT metions that Hitman is a AMD optimised title but forgets to mention that Rise of the Tomb Raider is a Nvidia optimised title...
And run's both in DX11... Where AMD is weaker... WOW!
Yeah, a lot of games are Nvidia titles these days
Phijkchu _Higl tbh the RX 480 and 1060 are not bad 1440p cards if you're willing to run at High rather than Ultra setting, and tbh I can't really tell the difference between high and Ultra most of the time.
And what difference you can notice will be lost when you're not closely looking at them and actually playing the game.
The fact that AMD drivers get better over time and Nvidia driverst just stagnate and cards lose support after each generation coming out, makes AMD the only logical choice because by the end of the year the Rx 480 will perform better in games and will still be cheaper (if the demand doesnt skyrocket)
I'm looking forward to the 490, and the 480/490 "x" series cards to see what AMD can offer towards the higher end. I currently rock a 970
I am waiting for a RX490 or 490x I am currently rocking a R9 390 and able to 60fps almost every game at 1440p also hope zen comes out soon :/
I am waiting for Zen. Currently using a phenom ii x4 925 and a 6670.
+Rand Vids looking for rx fury x?? with 1440p ultrawide
MrDaniiYY if they bring out a rx fury x i will be petrified.
Rand Vids imagine 100hz ultrawides with freesync and RX + top of the line. 2016 Q4 and 2017 Q1 will be awesome
The 1060 is an interesting card, the first release sent to reviewers is basically a 1080/1070 with some of the cores fused off. This is because the chip that was supposed to be the 1060 isn't ready yet and they needed some answer to the RX480. I imagine we'll get a 1065 that has a different chip and completely different performance once they get the proper chip done. As it stands, the 1060's probably making the 1070/1080 supply problems worse.
I'm still running this and it does pretty good in games that don't need more than 6gb v-ram to run at decent detail.
People used to bitch that Luke didn't host enough things. Now people bitch that Linus doesn't host enough things. Damnit, TH-cam.
What I don't understand about AMD fanboys is that they are always on about "wait until this!" or "dx12 and async!" and all this shit. I understand where they're coming from but it seems like they have always been this way. I'm not trying to sound like a Nvidia fanboy but right now if you want a faster card, then you should buy the 1060. All of this "wait for this thing to come out!" and "don't get this card cause faster ones will come out later!" is annoying because everyone already fucking knows that better things will come out later. I've seen so many people ask for help with their computer builds in reddit posts and comment sections and I always see AMD fanboys saying shit like "this card is ok now but AMD vega is coming soon so you should wait a few months, it's not worth it". If you want to build a system right now with a $250-$300 gpu budget then the 1060 is the better option. All of you AMD fans can say "well this is cheaper" and "dx12!" all you want but it doesn't excuse the fact that the 1060 performs better in ~80-90% of benchmarks.
Please link me to where you get a Fury for 250.
James Hong I'm sorry dude, but you sound like you have no idea what you're talking about..
you actually don't have to wait
there are already many dx12 titles that came out this year alone. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support
and that more dx12's are actually coming in pretty major this year for pc (alot of these titles look to actually be pretty major themselves at that)
essentially what i'm saying is its coming sooner than you think
also you don't consider the $ / performance
the 1060 may beat it majorily in dx11 BUT in no way does it justify its price (which luke already demonstrated in the video) because likely.. the 1060 is going to be in high demand (up to $50 or more / especially the founders edition) for 7-10 fps more..
and considering that the gtx 1060 has less vram to max out games with and has 0 sli support
Simply put, its the rx480 that holds better value in the end.
nvidia cards get outdated faster than AMD ones. it has always been like this.
so, unless you're planning on buying a new card next year, amd's probably a safer choice.
also freesync >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsync.
And POOF... the 1060 turns from the $250 to a $300 card with serious handicap
the mood of the whole video changes when linus steps in
Anyone here after 3090 and Radeon 6000 series?
Let's do all our benchmarks in DX11 'cause we're nVidia shills and the 1060 performs better in DX11. Better not use DX12, because the 480 performs much better in the graphics API that is actually relevant!
DUHHHHH.
Okay then
Several reviews I've seen:
Quantum Break DX12 - 480 win
Ashes of the Singularity DX12 - narrow 480 win
Hitman DX12 - 480 win
Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12 - 1060 win
DOOM Vulkan - 480 win
Total War: Warhammer DX12 - 480 win
Yeah of course the 1060 wins in rise of the tomb raider
Cause it's not a accurate representation of performance in half a year when more dx12 titles are out the difference between amd and Nvidia will be next to nothing then you'll probably say wait for Vulcan rinse and repeat
But it's kinda useless. Only Win10 supports DX12 and until 90% of all windows users will use Windows 10, Devs can't drop DX11 support
I have an all AMD rig right now, I wanted to go with Nvidia for my next card just to try them out as far as drivers, features, etc., but for the price difference I'm not sure I can justify it, especially if my CPU may bottleneck the performance gains that may be there with the 1060.
what's your CPU?
+HandsomeGamer probably an 8350
+Ray Rivia then it would probably not a bottleneck
HandsomeGamer It was a 6 core Phenom, but I got the opportunity to upgrade to a quad core Ivy Bridge for free so I took it. Wanted to pair an Nvidia card with it again just to try them out. I"ll still probably wind up going for the 480 though.
+HandsomeGamer it would be a bottleneck, if by bottleneck you mean he can get better performance with a better cpu
I'm not a huge tech person, but can someone tell me if the amd rx 480 will outperform the gtx 1060 in dx12 games?
it will
Is it possible to tell me an estimate of how much more fps you may get on the rx 480 with dx12 compared to dx11?
+Dustin Lee depends on the game. Wins by a huge amount in doom but not as much in other games
+Clorox Bleach did you comment on a Vehicle Virgins video...? Or was it somewhere else? Lol!
In highly optimized dx12 games the RX480 _may_ come out ahead. We have one example of a highly optimized game (DOOM) where the RX480 does markedly better with Vulkan. Vulkan-supporting games may not be very common though, compared to DX12 games. My impression is that the RX480 will close the gap in DX12 games, or even come out ahead sometimes, if the developer uses the DX12 API (near-)optimally.
After years of watching tech channels, I have learned that only 1 channel gives you accurate information-- LTT is not the one haha
why are you benching it against the 980? nvidia said it would beat the 980 and that's what I was going on I really wanted to see if they were telling the truth or lying.
aren't*
Dobermanator ah i see now... i hate nvidia this launch so much. they are artificially boosting the cost of the cards because they know (thought) that amd wouldnt have been competitive this time around. but the rx 480 in my opinion is the better card here. wait for the custom board partner cards and then we can see what the cards are really made of. for me im not sold on either of them yet. if the rx490 launches anytime soon and beats the 980 (it will have to) ill grab that instead of either of these cards. but if it doesnt launch ill just get a 1070. i dont want to go green because nvidia wont learn if they arent punished but my current card is showing bottlenecks so.... hurry up with that 490 :3
+Saber Slayer amd is just smarter to sell 5 480s a day for msrp than scalp the rest 480s have been sold out for 2-3 weeks
Just wait for the DX12 benchmarks to come out. LinusTechTips didn't post them because it would make Nvidia look bad, and LTT is now an actual force in the tech market. It would make sense that Nvidia would want to use them to maintain their image as the dominant player, even though AMD has had superior GPU technology for the past 4 years. Now that hardware is being utilized to its full capacity, and the AMD cards are crushing the Nvidia competition. Dual 480s are beating even the 3-year flagship, the R9 295X2. That is an obscene amount of performance for $400.
Why would they? They have two vega chips. Vega 10 and 11. vega 11 being more powerful and 10 being the weaker. Where is the problem releasing a 490 with vega 10/11 one that beats a 1070 and one that beats the 1080. The chip that beats the 1070 only has to be 10%/15% faster than the Fury X to beat the 1070 and the other only has to be 25%/30% faster to beat a 1080. This should totally be do able.
Why tf is this in my recomended. its past the 3000 series launch
what about the RX 480's power draw issues? I honestly wouldnt let that card anywhere near my computer for fear of damaging my motherboard.
they fixed it a week ago the 750 ti had worst power issues a 75w card went up to 125w
As you said it's fixed but.
Actually no it the 750Ti wasn't worse as first it averaged at 62W~ ish and second the RX 480 spiked at 150W over the PCIe connector and averaged at 80W~
lol she doesn't hurt your motherboard, a motgerboard can support way more than 75W on the pcie port + the problem is fixe
Chiriac Puiu Again it's a moot point because it is fixed.
But yes it *did*, and spiked more near 155W, again notice I said *spiked* and was 81W average, I was going off memory so I now have the exact numbers as why the change.
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This however was in a niche scenario with Metro Last Light at 4k, almost certainly it was because the VRAM was being filled to capacity on the 8GB model which AMD knew no one in real life would run the card at 4k for an extended period of time so it probably wasn't tested as rigorously.
It was probably heavily tested in 4k in crossfire however which probably made them test 4k even less on a single card basis. But the GPU will not be used at full tilt under Crossfire because the cards are like 20%~ of the time waiting on the PCIe bus to relay communications between the two cards.
The 480's power draw distribution got fixed with a Crimson update.
*NVIDIA Business Practices:*
NVIDIA: "We will not include SLI in GTX 1060s"
Consumer: "ok then, i'm just gonna get 2 GTX 970s then HA, take that!!"
NVIDIA: "Oh no you don't!!" *Makes GTX 970's prices stay at 369 dollars*
Consumer: "Fuck you"
*True Story*
what every rx 480 i see is over 300 dollars
search rx 480 4 gb
+derp herpington whats the point i can get a 1060 that perforns better in most cases 6gb for 250-300
if you want to pay $75 more for 2gb, go ahead, but in most games you wont need more than 3.5 gb for video memory
+derp herpington i play games that require more vram also i need all the performance i can get out of this price range
Except the RX480 is much faster in DX12/Vulkan.
just look at Doom.
Is it going to work with 500 PSU
Help!
Yes
just take a good quality PSU 500~550w should be enough
I use a high quality 550w psu with my power hungry r9 390 you can get 430w and be just fine
600 is absolutely overkill, I have a 530W with a 380 and it works fine.
I like how every graphics card is "The Competitor's GPU Killer!" in the video titles
What made you think no one would ever come to this video to decide between a 1060 and a 1070???? Seriously, dropped the ball on this review
I prefer DigitalFoundry hardware reviews ... but only cause Richard is a stoic englishman
480 still better
Ah the AMD fanboy army is strong in this video.
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GPU pricing is out of control.
-- you mean in a nice way? All of statistics would have cost x2 more on the previous architecture both AMD and Nvidea.
Nice troll.
I was being serious, but okay. Pascal architecture changed everything. The 1080 is 700 dollars and beats out the 1200$ Titan X.
So... basicly you're trying to make out outdated componant as relevant regarding the pricing ? If so I am not interested in explaining you how logic works.
I give up on you
GLHF
bought a 1070 ASUS turbo for $360 today.. hmmm
***** jet.com
Nice, that is a deal right there.
It says $400
Murad A use shop10 discount code
My 1060 6GB does a stable 2100 Mhz, which puts it somewhere between the 980 and the 980 ti in terms of performance. More than happy with that for €300.
If you are trying to decide on which of these two cards to get then it's pretty simple, if you want to play a lot of VR get the GTX1060, otherwise you should be fine with the RX480. The 1060 has support for SMP which will allow it to just destroy the RX480 in VR games that utilize it (though keep in mind most VR games don't utilize it yet), but outside of VR the RX480 offers better value.
What about Vulkan I want i want crossfire nvidia you don't get to decide what I need
I wouldn't get SLI/Crossfire. Not enough games support it for it to be worth the money.
dude, I want to SLI my RX 480s and then use an RX 470 as a dedicated PhysX card.
+Niko Yochum you mean crossfire two rx480s, not SLI
+Novashadow115 Someone didn't get the joke..
whooosh
Actually pretty decent card for once. I do want to see how AIB RX 480s do vs AIB GTX 1060s, though.
Seems that low level API + longevity (and I guess slightly lower price but that will vary) goes to the RX 480, whilst DX11 and overall performance (for now, we know AMD cards age better) goes to the 1060.
Exciting honestly. Now we gotta wait for GTX 1050 vs RX 470.
why the f did he not benchmarka single dx12 game? he said it himself he is a schill
Shabbir Khambatti
Luke's job is done ATM. It is our job to analyze the results. We have current Vulkan and DX12 games already. More are releasing this year. EVEN more are releasing next year.
History also teaches us that AMD cards age better. That is the lesson. I just analyzed the video for people that know less than me, be thankful.
+Alexander “Charcharo” Yordanov
funnily enough, there are actually alot more dx12 games out now and coming out this year.. (more than in even expected lol)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support
rx480 is better overclocker per Mhz, 1300Mhz rx480 is same as 1500Mhz Gtx1060 and 1400Mhz is same as 2000Mhz GTX1060
if some AIBs can make stable 1400Mhz cards they will be superb, tho in some games like GTA6 it will flat out loose to anything nvidia.
You're wrong the logo DOES light up i got mine today and it lights up. maybe you got a gimped model?
yeah mine lights up too i think they didnt even looked at it or its broken
"Good time to be a PC gamer"
Yeah, unlike 2021. :(
Well, i'm going to used 970 for less than 200
Where? I'll buy it
rx 480
don't trust used products that i can't check
***** The problem is that when I posted the comment the RX 480 was too new for buying one used.
+Teens With Tech rx 480 IS less than $200, but priced at $199 for the 4GB version thats very hard to find. Muh 1$ savings
Doom Vulkan 1060 Vs Rx 480. Thats what we need (future games will use that)
Yea but its unfare at the moment as there's like 4 games and only ashes was built for it not just a re skinned dx11 game
watching this in 2024 having bought a second hand GTX 1060 3GB for 35 euro, so crazy how cheap they are now as to when they were new... they still perform great in today's games such as Hogwarts legacy, Fallout 76, modded minecraft with shaders etc, technology is amazing man..
i like how luke is saying how cheap the rx 480 is compared to the 1060, but now 480s go for like $350
Okay, should I buy a RX 480?
*still buy
Lose 10 frames , but u are golden future prof / 8 gb ram
I have one, it is pretty great.
If so, get a aftermarket cooler for more overclocking potential, then it will reck the 1060.
Jayden Smith www.hardocp.com/article/2016/07/19/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1060_founders_edition_review/4#.V47_c2h97Gh
480 killer? Not likely. The 1060 is 6-7% faster and costs what, $60 more? The 480 is skill king of the budget/value card, which is what it was made for. Nvidia should stick to the top 5% where they belong.
And, NO SLI in 1060, bad DX12/VULCAN implementation...
To be honest RX 480 is much better then 1060. People will buy 1060 just because "nvidia" logo on it...
This channel is slowly becoming LukeTechTips
Hey Linus, me, a guy from 2018 watching your videos,noticed that you will speak fast in your future and even the intro would be fast too.
Edit: You will also be wearing your "Holy Balls" t-shirt in the future.