No, you don't keep the bike upright and "just turn the bars" get moving with some speed and purpose and LEAN that bike over!!! No excuses, go practice MotoJitsu.com
@@user-vu1lv8wh3k It has been pointed out and something needed to be done. This video has been featured in other channel which point out where he got this all wrong.
@@Coffeeteabike In the comments of that moto control video there's this muppet called petro head and he's bagging out motojitsu hard, saying how he knows him IRL and how he's super arrogant and just makes stuff up and doesn't actually know what he's talking about. I had a look and the same perto head guy has a youtube channel trying to copy motojitsu's, in his latest video he's telling everyone don't listen to what motojitsu teaches and goes on about how steering your bike is more about leaning your body than steering with your hands. Seems like the guy's on a war path to destroy motojitsu or something. Seems personal or maybe he's just a nut trying to discredit motojitsu to steal his audience, kind of wild.
We need you here in Oz to slap some sense into the rider licensing program. We need to take mandatory rider lessons (which is good ngl) however they START by teaching you to slow ride whilst also making literally every mistake you described here (telling us to go slow and stomp on the rear brake as well as not explaining vision and just telling you to look where you're going). Now I understand why it was next to impossible to make the slow riding course (besides the fact that was the first time I had ever ridden a motorbike in my life). This video makes everything make sense all of a sudden thank you so much for this!
Turning as you demonstrate is a very handy skill everyone should practice. Turning without a steep lean at even slower speed is a more advanced skill that you apparently need to practice until you don't wiggle your bars back and forth like a little kid's first day on a bicycle. Both skills are great additions to a skilled rider's repertoire.
New rider here, thanks for this info. This is probably the most important information i have learned today doing thight turns. I love moto gymkhana and i hope to improve my skills based on what you have said. Yesterday, i went 6-9 mph doing turns and i can feel the radius got smaller. Im trying really hard to get over my fear of falling when i lean. I think im making progress. This vid and info is golden. Thank you sir. You are a good teacher.
In Sweden we have ride really slow in the certification (below 4 km/h) just to show you can balance and control the bike. Your'e failed if you ride too fast.
I had a gap of 5 years and just started to ride again (BMW R1200RT) just last week. I started doing circles of 30ft diameter and then within 3 days be comfortable enough to do circles and figure 8s in 24 ft wide space. It’s a joy to do turns with just about 10mph - U-turns, circles and figure 8s. I practice roughly 30 - 45 mins everyday and I’m sure I’ll be a much better rider in a few more weeks. The joy of clutch control in the friction zone, just enough accelerator and tad pressure on the rear brakes is all that’s needed. Thanks for your informative videos and mobile app. Much appreciated.
I have learnt quite a lot from your channel and I would like to give back. My step-son wants to learn to ride. He is so new, he has the Pacific Ocean behind each ear. He could not sit on a bike, without it falling over. I had to hold the rack from behind. So I taught him the mugger drill. It has worked like a charm. It goes like this, I sit him on the bike, left foot down, right foot on the brake. Tuck those legs in. Feel the bike between your thighs. Put it into first gear, ride forward 3m and stop. Put it into neutral. Return to left foot down, right foot on the brake. Now for the mugger part, hands above your head like you're being mugged. Wash rinse repeat until the stability of holding a bike in place is from the hips and legs, no pressure on the bars. This drill has helped him to create strong stability on the bike. At first, he was terrified of letting go of the bars, but today I tested him on gravel and he pulled up, put it in neutral, hands above head, no problem. Stability is in the hip (when you're standing still, 0 Kph).
I've got my motorbike licence in the UK and this is exactly the way my instructor taught us. He also taught us how to use the rear brake in slow rides and it definitely made me more confident because the bike felt so much more stable. Thanks to these videos, I found so many other things to learn and to practice from you!
Amazing and correct! I've been practicing your invaluable teaching for the last 8 months since buying a small Zontes Tiger 125 bike here in Scotland! Every day I practice and it has been an inspiration. This lesson is especially useful. My bike riding confidence has greatly increased since I discovered MotoJitsu. One day when I get a full licence and a bigger bike I know everything you have taught me will save my life. Thanks again.
I sold my motorcycle about 11 years ago when I had kids, and haven't been on a motorcycle since then. This is great info, and gives me confidence for the day i'm able to get another bike :)
Incase you don't get a reply I'll add my two cents as perspective. We all know that riding comes with a heavy risk of serious injury and death but we accept them because at the end of the day it's just you and the bike on the line. When you have kids that's not the case anymore. Your injury could have a severe impact on their development so at a certain point you may decide that raising those kids to the best of your ability is more important than your hobby. That and the fact that kids are so damn expensive. Most people have bikes as their secondary vehicle so it's an easy sell to soften the blow from the extremely heavy initial costs of child birth. At least in America. As a disclaimer, I don't have any kids but I am at that stage in life where financial planning for children is my reality so I've given this a lot of thought. I hope that can give you some insight while we both wait for a response from @SummerAdventures
@@andyfumo8931 Every time I hear someone say they sold their bike because they had kids, it really bothers me. It makes me think they were forced into it by their wife. I would like to think it's possible to ride carefully and safely while still enjoying yourself.
@motojitsu I'm practicing my low speed turns daily and getting better, but it's still pretty challenging for the beginner. I noticed that I keep fighting myself - I try sending the signals to tell my body to lean the bike, but something in my brain is fighting back. One thing I noticed that makes a big difference is to look where I want to go (that's what everyone says). When I look, my brain fights back less and the bike seems to go where I need it to go. It gets better each day and your videos are super helpful to keep making progress. Thank you for your videos.
I feel like it helps even more to look where you want to go (but not too far) and actively/conscientiously trying to steer the bike that way, not only relying on instinctive steering.
biggest thing for me overcoming this as a fellow new rider - relax your body. Fully relax your arms and body (while still holding proper body position) and release the stress in your arms...then let the bike fall into the turn. When I started to fully relax my arms I almost immediately started doing better and could get tighter turns. Good luck!!!
@@cloud9847 Thanks for this advice and I noticed a big difference today when I was riding. My body was really stiff and I was not relaxing anything. When I loosened up, everything was better. I also noticed the same with my lower back and right leg. It is weird because I did not realize I was so tense.
@@turbotoblast4 Yeah and the difference between direct vs peripheral vision. For example if practicing cone weaving, we might look to the end of the cones (or past) and not directly at the cone we are weaving around, but still using peripheral vision to supplement.
Not gonna lie, I struggle with this. Go faster to make a slower speed turn feels really counterintuitive. I KNOW the bike is more stable at higher speeds, because physics, but at lower speeds, it really feels like the bike wants to fall over and my instinct is to counter it.
Try speed with not so tight turns when you lean. Build confidence and then make it tighter. Make sure you don't pull your clutch when you are unsure, then you cut the power and loose speed and the bike will have a harder time to stand up
There's also other tricks like riding the clutch and the rear brake that can help at slower speeds, mostly just to modulate the throttle and make micro adjustments. If you can find a big empty parking lot you won't get in trouble for using I'd suggest practicing in it. Try to see how many parking spaces it takes to do a u turn and try to shrink that to less than 2 spaces.
8th month of riding and can comfortable make U-turns and 360s at slow speeds. I'm still not 100% comfortable at full bar lock but each day I move a little closer to that goal. your videos/advice help tremendously. Thanks again!!!
Imorove Slow speed turns by going faster ...🤦 Nobody goes slow because he wants to go slow but because there is a reason for it. And sometimes while going slow you have to make a turn... Riding is more than practicing in a parking lot doing small radiuses. A good rider practises to ride his bike in every situation. Guess what, you can do even tighter turns with a little burnout. Valid riding technique on dirt. Doesn't make it the ultimate riding technique in a mixed traffic zone with pedestrians for low speed cornering, does it ?.tight turn and slow turn are not the same thing. There's a situation for both. And a rider should practice both
I'm so grateful for your channel, I practice low speed turning on almost every ride(whenever I can find an empty parking lot). It's crazy how confident and comfortable I feel riding because of all the practice... and I've only been riding for about a month and a half! I'm also very grateful for my instructors at my Basic Rider Course who also taught how to use lean for low-speed maneuvers.
What Moto-Jistu misses is that these Motorcycle Cops teach this "vertical turning" technique specifically for use on slippery surfaces like gravel. He criticizes a technique without bothering to understand its purpose. These same Motorcycle Cops teach the leaning techniques all day every day for regular conditions.
In the trainers defense their course is designed for people that don’t have the feel for the bike that you have. That being said this is very good information that you’re sharing with us. It’s definitely helping me.
The moto cops that do the competition skills are fun to watch and those guys don’t just use handlebars with no lean. They fly as fast as they can and constantly lean and scrape the floor boards. I can’t believe people actually teach that. I’m glad you’re spreading good knowledge to riders. It’s scary surprising how many people on bikes really don’t know how to ride. They can go down the road and that’s it. I will never forget my fist riding test a long time ago to get my endorsement and there was only a few of us out of 17 that passed. A lady on a trike failed right away because she had zero clutch and throttle control but the two oldest people there on big full dresser bikes that said they have been riding for 30+ years and finally decided to get their endorsement and they both failed right away as well.
Been watching you for a while now. I ride an Indian Chieftain and I am trying to balance "scraping" my boards versus laying my bike down. I don't have 25k to pay my bike off if I damage it so it holds me back. However, i have learned a lot watching your videos. And as a Newer rider, I appreciate your knowledge and the clarity of your explanations.
This is just the ultimate tip. Transformed my low speed. That and "be assertive". Went out and tried it this evening - feel like i went up a belt. Great tips. Thanks man!
Yes !!!!!! you are absolutely correct, it's all in feeling the ride, I always believed this all my life, I been riding over 50 years, great job on explaining this 👍
Dear Greg, my instructor was an ex-cop and during the slow driving lessons at the range he taught me the opposite of what you are saying in this video. I think he was right.
In Finland you can't go over 5kph in the slow manouvering test it's hard. You can Google traficom motorcycle test manual explains the course and speed. 15 to 20mph isn't a slow turn that would be 24kph to 34kph and a complete fail.
Just picked up my first 1250gs and mennn I love this bike. Coming from a sport bike background, feels like I have a lot to learn. Love your channel man. Very helpful and informative!!!
Thank you for this lesson. My coach told everyone in the safety riding course, always lean to same side as the corner. He doesn't want to see any counterbalancing.
Don't know why I was so excited to hear you say if you aren't scrapping your floor boards on a cruiser you aren't leaning enough. I am a re-entry rider after about 15 years off, so getting into practicing slow speed/u-turns, nothing like my old ZX6R and I am always scraping so I thought I was getting too low and treating it more like my old bike. Love the content thanks for all you do for the community.
Thanks for all the help man. Pulled off my 1st full lock circle today on my 125cc duke. Been practicing every day for the last 2 weeks and trying to complete my brown belt! Also have full gear now that makes me feel far more confident.
You make so much sense to my mind thank you! I’ve watched this video so many times because in the class I took they told me everything you said not to do and I kept going faster and actually getting it in class and they kept telling me I needed to slow down and then I’d fail the task.
Maybe part of the issue with people going too slow comes from calling it a low speed turn. We could just call it a tight turn. Or a lower speed tight turn, vs higher speed tight turn. Regardless of speed, the bike has to lean enough for the steering geometry to create that “cone” that corresponds to the angle of the turn. And for a super tight angle, because tires can only handle so much lateral load, you are limited in how fast you can go. So that lower speed limits the forces that can hold the bike up at that given angle, and so you may need to counter weight your bike with your body. But at higher speeds you can do the opposite and lean into the turn - to keep the required bike lean angle within limits, and that lets you maintain more speed to make that turn. So low speed tight turns you lean the bike but your body can stay upright to counter weight, and high speed tight turns you do the opposite and lean your body in to the turn so you can carry even more speed at that given angle.
I completed a course taught by the Chandler (AZ) PD Motor Unit about 8 weeks ago on my '19 DCT Goldwing. The lean and higher speed and looking to where you want to go was key to tight turns, tight U-turns. We used the same course the Moto Unit uses for training. No clutch so a lot of rear brake use to control the speed as the DCT is real responsive to throttle. Was a free course that they conduct quarterly.
Yeah but in the EU we also teach counter-leaning, which lets you lean the bike way more. Not sure why MJ doesn't mention it, it seems like a huge missed opportunity. Seems the MJ way to practice low speed skills is to avoid low speeds.
Same in the UK. Got to be slow speed on the test. Like MJ said elsewhere, do the test how they want you to do it, then after you've passed, re-educate yourself 😂
Actually when I did my exam our instructor mentioned that we have to forget everything that we have learned on the course to pass and as a direct continuation offered a slow turn course after the successful exam, end this is precisely what we learned as a new riders. It turned to be invaluable and also what a sales pitch for course continuation 👍
That is really great advice and something you eventually figure out for yourself, but having a head start is very helpful. Last year I returned to motorcycling after a 38 year break (yeah I know), and confidence with low speed corners is taking the longest to recover. This vid will really help…. Practice, practice, practice!
You are 100% / the more you learn the more you know you need to learn. Henn eyes is definitely fantastic advice and it’s more than just beginner level. The things you’re explaining are more intermediate in advanced. But again, I agree, 100% with everything you’re saying.
About that “vision” stuff, I agree with you, is also how you “feel” the bike… Somehow, when we ride, we are “connected” to the bike, so yes… it have lotta sense! 🤘🏻👽
Thanks for helping us break out of the B.S. zone and into reality. Everyone who wants to ride and improve should be watching your videos. I have sent people your links to watch your channel several times now just to help because no one gives such down-to-earth and detailed explanations as you.
I think the look where you’re going is great advice for beginners. As you said eventually it becomes muscle memory and that’s definitely an advanced many seasoned rider has and then you can adjust to your skill level
I ride R1250RT and handle it very confidently through twisties but I was walking the bike initially at slow turns. Now I practice slow turns after every ride for 10-15 mins like @motojitsu suggested doing in his videos. It has been very helpful and I have been steadily improving. 👍 you are a good instructor.
Have to admit I really love these videos you put out. You've given me a lot of information about how much I don't understand. For about a year I've had a KLR 650 that people either love or hate. But I smile like a little kid when I ride it. Though when it comes to low speed turns I really had to get over some mental intimidation due to the height of it.
During my course here in QC, I had to do u-turns from a stop. When I figured out more speed = more success, it was a game changer and got me ready for the test.
Motorcycle instructors do teach beginners to look at where you want to go, simply because beginners are afraid, and a motorcycle is a wonder of machinery but also an overwhelming piece of engineering for most people at first, especially if you have been used to drive a car and the idea to drive a 200kg+ motorcycle as a 80kg average is a great challenge if we think about. As beginners tend to overgrip their handlebars, looking at where you go means for beginners being able to turn because looking will imply turning the shoulders, which are connected to the arms, which are connected to the handlebars. Then, when a beginner starts to realize it can be more beneficial to be easing the grip on the handlebars, and drive the motorcycle more with the lower part of their body (the legs and abs), they can learn more advanced techniques like yours. I really love your videos and I've learned a lot, but I think that there is no wrong or right techniques, motorcycles instructors were, are and will always teach relevant techniques for their audience (beginners). Your audience has evolved with you, so you teach intermediate as well as advanced techniques. Also, you can't go that fast if you are in a heavy traffic so that's why here in France motorcycle instructors do teach slow speed (maybe we should call it very slow speed because in your video slow speed means around 10km/h as you are taking those turn pretty fast even though its not that fast) simply because you will have situation where you need to be below 5km/h but still don't wan't to drop you big BMW 1250RT which weights 280kg+ and in a tight closed parking lot or in heavy traffic like in Paris, you can't be that fast that simply impossible. I hope to see more videos of yours that teach very slow speed techniques because you have some, but I feel like it is something that beginners tends to want to see because beginners tends to drop their bike mostly on very slow or even at a stop and I know I needed those techniques back then when I was a beginner. Love always!
Doodle, you're my favorite so far. I'm looking to buy a motorcycle but before then I'm trying to learn as much as possible from TH-cam. Thank you guys/gals for all the great content.
Great video. That has been something I've learned riding. I practice regularly and feel the bike and listen to the sound of the motor as I'm doing U-turns when I ride my FZ1 and R1 and have to be going 8-11 mph doing slow speed maneuvers. On the R1 I have to lean it because the handle bars lock quickly, so the bike must lean. 😊 Practice 15 minutes every ride. 👍
It is not about too much knowledge, it is about training, experience and muscle memory. I ended up in such situation, when it seemed I had more knowledge than my instructor, but he had practice, training and experience. Believe it, or not, he poorly explained almost everything about slow speed maneuvers, but he was good at doing these maneuvers. So, during courses I just watched him doing his thing, and put in practice what i saw in your videos. At the end I told him I was quite disappointed about paying motorcycle school, just to have access to some motorcycles that should have been scrapped long time ago. Waste of time and money. Finally, I postponed the license exam with the police, and bought a small 50cc motorcycle which can be ridden with car license, and started learning by my own. Moto Jitsu App is helping me a lot.
Your tips are really great, I hope to use them today as turns really are a sore spot for me (always afraid of falling) but you also give me very high anxiety with your absolute skill 😂 you looking the other way, my brain ist just like „no WAY!“
@@MotoJitsu BTW, when I first started working on your first book (I was on a 1200cc Triumph) I kept dropping the bike in the parking lot. A couple of times the bike stalled because I came out of the friction zone too quickly on a turn, and other times the bike just dropped because i did not understand that I was going too slow. I was going to quit your books. I've been on bikes for years, but your slow speed levels just seemed too difficult. I then saw you talk about speed and lean, and it clicked. I jumped from your white to blue belt courses in a couple of weeks, then to brown, etc. It absolutely was the speed and lean. Now I'm on a BMW GS and at 66, I am having a blast. I also did the Champ school (online as I am in Japan) and that made all the difference on the twisties and mountain trails. I'm now working on off road skills. Don't stop learning and practicing!
Hi I'm a new rider from Mexico, what do you think about the advices of the channel be the boss of your motorcycle ? Because he recommends use the rear break and preload Cheers
I wish I could train with you in person! I love your videos. Thank you so much. You have helped me a lot. I still have issues getting my goldwing to lean you make it look so easy. Thank you again!
You’ve got a lot of flack for this. I’m not much of an expert so I can’t critique the praxis, but you make personable, to-the-point content that directly improves the safety of many human beings. You should be proud of that, in the case of whatever shade you of grey you may be right or wrong in this instance.
Most people who don't like what I had to say in this video are those who can barley do a U-turn, let alone anything remotely close to what I can do on a bike...oh well, people will always attack what they're jelous of.
Good info...clutch/throttle and rear brakes. with a torquey bike, i.e. MT09, CB650 etc, what gear for such slow turn, 1st gear for these bikes, i find my hands grip so hard on the throttle, a quick sneeze or a fart, one will open the throttle in no time. and since one is making turning our hands need to be flexible, unlike straight road...
Looking forward to practicing more, now that our weather is warm. Even a 17HP bike can have a twitchy throttle (mine does) which means more clutch work.
There is a big difference in a typical daily routine very slow speed turn where there are many obstacles and a specific parking lot turn at a relatively higher speed. İn the former, I need to consider all stakeholders (cars, pedestrians, animals, wet surface, opening doors etc. Therefore I need to be very slow, keep the bike as much upright as possible, thus rely heavily on throttle, clutch and rear brake, because I have nearly no centrifugal force. İn the Latter, İn a controlled parking lot, to make turns around cones, I can gain more speed, thus more centrifugal force İn turns, and I can even ignore clutch, lean the bike (even my self with the bike ) and complete a faster u turn. As you see, these are 2 different things and both are absolutely correct.
Always look over the parking lot in which you are training BEFORE you begin. Had a recent experience where I almost had the front wheel wash out beneath me due to an accumulation of sandy remnants of the existing (aging) asphalt. It was almost impossible to see until you were standing directly over top of it due to the fact that it's the same material. Must have been washed into one spot from a heavy rain, blown or swept there...
Excellent video mate, I'm there taking it all in learning and learning. Its really useful what your teaching us. Yes a car park is the best place to practice.
For someone who grew up riding stingray bikes, a lot of my turning instincts were related to that, and my later commuting experiences. I think that going back to that in my mind, made me more comfortable trusting the bike wouldn’t do anything different if treated it the same. Not sure I’m conveying this correctly, but I love this video. Great stuff. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
you know how to make the U-turns even tighter? burnouts. burnouts, much like your "yeah man just build some speed and lean the bike more - even motorcops get this wrong!!!1!" approach, are situational. I would pay to see you, a self-proclaimed black-belt, try to make a U turn on some loose gravel. 04:14 - also super funny that apparently "you _can_ look up and plan ahead" is a deep level of knowledge. I've seen a lot of your videos and I really liked them, but these recent ones are just underwhelming, and full on "do this, in this way, otherwise you're just a white belt"
I've been following your lessons for a few months now as I work up for my Spanish A2 licence. We have to do a slow speed course. Google it if you have time. Unfortunately, I don't think there's the capability of going faster around the sticks. Exam a week on Monday.
I follow you for years and your tips are way more helpful than what I learned in drivers school. Especially your tips about riding in the city. Life saving. But regardless how much I practice I dropped it on the parking lot and struggle with turns since then 😢 guess the answer is keep practicing 😉
Ive been practicing slow speed turns my entire riding career…. Which is about 1.5 weeks on a GSX 8S…. And less than 50 total miles. First bike, first time riding. I do need to speed up…. For sure
I remember I took a course from motor officers and they told me the same thing. Their reasoning was it was a side by side parade technique. It’s cool in that setting but not very practical.
If you're in a course and they tell you "just turn the bars" take it with a grain of salt. Practice slow speed balancing with zero lean angle, sure, but don't expect to get through my drills or through a cop-like course by "only turning the bars" without more speed & lean angle.
I don’t know if they have trial riding in the u.s but you wouldn’t do it like this - more upright and controlled low speed is completely achievable and valid.
Do this in your next vid MotoJitsu… A simple demo is to use a light bike like a dirt bike. Mark a starting point from back tyre, turn with the bars locked and walk (yes, off the bike) 180 degrees. Mark the end point. Then go back to the start, full lock and LEAN the bike. See the difference. Light bulb 💡 moment!
More lean angle brings you closer to the point of no return. The speed needed to avoid the point of no return may be too high. Use the right technique in the appropriate circumstance.
hi, first of all i want to thank you that you gave me a lot of insight on low speed turns, I am a new learner from Hong Kong and in our exam we have a figure 8 drills on a slope that we need to perform. If you need videos I can send you some on what we actually need to do. I am struggling at the moment on the slow speed performance. I understand more now about the chin pointing to where I want to go, but in this drill we cannot use the clutch as the stopping mechanism. We need to only rely on the throttle and rear brake. Will you able to give me some idea how to handle it thank you
I disagree on that one, and i'm a bit surprised by your stance as you defend slow speed skills usually. Be able to lean that far at not so slow speed as you show is a great skill to have no argue in that but you shouldn't disregard even slower speed. In several countries it's part of the motorcycle license exam to do a really slow speed ride through gates (1.5 to 2 mph or less ) without putting foot on the floor. This is to learn to navigate in really crowded area, with lots of pedestrian or just with a lot of cars in a traffic jam where you dont have the luxury to go faster safely. Though maybe it's less important in north america where you often have more room to maneuver, you should consider a "slow race" just as a different skill of balance to practice . Real nice garage circles anyway✌
Don't care what's required in a test....do what you have to do to pass...but if you think that's all there is to learn, good luck. Try doing my MotoJitsu drills going 2mph or less...let me know how it goes for you. I've done slow races and won many...you don't seem to get the point of this video. th-cam.com/video/Oy-O4cayhfo/w-d-xo.html
@@MotoJitsu I do get that you absolutely need to train to turn as you describe it in this video and not relly only on staying upright / turn bars only . It just gave the impression that you think there is no point to be able to do even slower speed exercices, but with the link you provided i now see that it's not the case, my mistake. I've followed your channel for a bit more than a year and have not seen that video. Thanks for replying !
not easy to turn slow and not easy to turn faster. let s practice both. heck everything thrown at us . i believe there is not only one way to skin a cat . the idea is to spend sometime practicing everything ..... thanks for the great tuto Greg!
No, you don't keep the bike upright and "just turn the bars" get moving with some speed and purpose and LEAN that bike over!!! No excuses, go practice MotoJitsu.com
Makes sense. Need enough speed to get gyro effect of wheels/tires, which is what stabilizes bikes and motorcycles.
Wasn’t this video originally titled ‘Even Motorcops Get This Wrong’ ? … and it had a different cover picture ?
@@user-vu1lv8wh3k It has been pointed out and something needed to be done. This video has been featured in other channel which point out where he got this all wrong.
@@Coffeeteabike In the comments of that moto control video there's this muppet called petro head and he's bagging out motojitsu hard, saying how he knows him IRL and how he's super arrogant and just makes stuff up and doesn't actually know what he's talking about. I had a look and the same perto head guy has a youtube channel trying to copy motojitsu's, in his latest video he's telling everyone don't listen to what motojitsu teaches and goes on about how steering your bike is more about leaning your body than steering with your hands. Seems like the guy's on a war path to destroy motojitsu or something. Seems personal or maybe he's just a nut trying to discredit motojitsu to steal his audience, kind of wild.
We need you here in Oz to slap some sense into the rider licensing program. We need to take mandatory rider lessons (which is good ngl) however they START by teaching you to slow ride whilst also making literally every mistake you described here (telling us to go slow and stomp on the rear brake as well as not explaining vision and just telling you to look where you're going). Now I understand why it was next to impossible to make the slow riding course (besides the fact that was the first time I had ever ridden a motorbike in my life).
This video makes everything make sense all of a sudden thank you so much for this!
Turning as you demonstrate is a very handy skill everyone should practice. Turning without a steep lean at even slower speed is a more advanced skill that you apparently need to practice until you don't wiggle your bars back and forth like a little kid's first day on a bicycle. Both skills are great additions to a skilled rider's repertoire.
New rider here, thanks for this info. This is probably the most important information i have learned today doing thight turns. I love moto gymkhana and i hope to improve my skills based on what you have said. Yesterday, i went 6-9 mph doing turns and i can feel the radius got smaller. Im trying really hard to get over my fear of falling when i lean. I think im making progress. This vid and info is golden. Thank you sir. You are a good teacher.
That garage clip was the ultimate flex lol
Need good ventilation though!
When you wanna go out with pizazz@guessedUK
In Sweden we have ride really slow in the certification (below 4 km/h) just to show you can balance and control the bike. Your'e failed if you ride too fast.
same in germany, walking speed slalom
I had a gap of 5 years and just started to ride again (BMW R1200RT) just last week. I started doing circles of 30ft diameter and then within 3 days be comfortable enough to do circles and figure 8s in 24 ft wide space. It’s a joy to do turns with just about 10mph - U-turns, circles and figure 8s. I practice roughly 30 - 45 mins everyday and I’m sure I’ll be a much better rider in a few more weeks. The joy of clutch control in the friction zone, just enough accelerator and tad pressure on the rear brakes is all that’s needed. Thanks for your informative videos and mobile app. Much appreciated.
keep at it!
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I have learnt quite a lot from your channel and I would like to give back. My step-son wants to learn to ride. He is so new, he has the Pacific Ocean behind each ear.
He could not sit on a bike, without it falling over. I had to hold the rack from behind. So I taught him the mugger drill. It has worked like a charm. It goes like this,
I sit him on the bike, left foot down, right foot on the brake. Tuck those legs in. Feel the bike between your thighs.
Put it into first gear, ride forward 3m and stop.
Put it into neutral.
Return to left foot down, right foot on the brake.
Now for the mugger part, hands above your head like you're being mugged.
Wash rinse repeat until the stability of holding a bike in place is from the hips and legs, no pressure on the bars.
This drill has helped him to create strong stability on the bike. At first, he was terrified of letting go of the bars, but today I tested him on gravel and he pulled up, put it in neutral, hands above head, no problem. Stability is in the hip (when you're standing still, 0 Kph).
I've got my motorbike licence in the UK and this is exactly the way my instructor taught us. He also taught us how to use the rear brake in slow rides and it definitely made me more confident because the bike felt so much more stable. Thanks to these videos, I found so many other things to learn and to practice from you!
Amazing and correct! I've been practicing your invaluable teaching for the last 8 months since buying a small Zontes Tiger 125 bike here in Scotland! Every day I practice and it has been an inspiration. This lesson is especially useful. My bike riding confidence has greatly increased since I discovered MotoJitsu. One day when I get a full licence and a bigger bike I know everything you have taught me will save my life. Thanks again.
slow is smooth, smooth is fast !
I have 125 too. Do u use first gear, clutch and throttle for this exercise, right?
I sold my motorcycle about 11 years ago when I had kids, and haven't been on a motorcycle since then. This is great info, and gives me confidence for the day i'm able to get another bike :)
Glad it was helpful!
Can I ask what your reasoning was to stop riding, I mean why did having kids change it for you
Incase you don't get a reply I'll add my two cents as perspective. We all know that riding comes with a heavy risk of serious injury and death but we accept them because at the end of the day it's just you and the bike on the line. When you have kids that's not the case anymore. Your injury could have a severe impact on their development so at a certain point you may decide that raising those kids to the best of your ability is more important than your hobby. That and the fact that kids are so damn expensive. Most people have bikes as their secondary vehicle so it's an easy sell to soften the blow from the extremely heavy initial costs of child birth. At least in America. As a disclaimer, I don't have any kids but I am at that stage in life where financial planning for children is my reality so I've given this a lot of thought. I hope that can give you some insight while we both wait for a response from @SummerAdventures
@@andyfumo8931 Every time I hear someone say they sold their bike because they had kids, it really bothers me. It makes me think they were forced into it by their wife. I would like to think it's possible to ride carefully and safely while still enjoying yourself.
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I'm practicing my low speed turns daily and getting better, but it's still pretty challenging for the beginner. I noticed that I keep fighting myself - I try sending the signals to tell my body to lean the bike, but something in my brain is fighting back. One thing I noticed that makes a big difference is to look where I want to go (that's what everyone says). When I look, my brain fights back less and the bike seems to go where I need it to go. It gets better each day and your videos are super helpful to keep making progress. Thank you for your videos.
I feel like it helps even more to look where you want to go (but not too far) and actively/conscientiously trying to steer the bike that way, not only relying on instinctive steering.
biggest thing for me overcoming this as a fellow new rider - relax your body. Fully relax your arms and body (while still holding proper body position) and release the stress in your arms...then let the bike fall into the turn. When I started to fully relax my arms I almost immediately started doing better and could get tighter turns. Good luck!!!
@@cloud9847 Thanks for this advice and I noticed a big difference today when I was riding. My body was really stiff and I was not relaxing anything. When I loosened up, everything was better. I also noticed the same with my lower back and right leg. It is weird because I did not realize I was so tense.
@@turbotoblast4 Yeah and the difference between direct vs peripheral vision. For example if practicing cone weaving, we might look to the end of the cones (or past) and not directly at the cone we are weaving around, but still using peripheral vision to supplement.
that's awesome bud!
Myself included 🤪
When we video ourselves, we then realise we're not counterbalancing enough!
:) more practice!
Not gonna lie, I struggle with this. Go faster to make a slower speed turn feels really counterintuitive. I KNOW the bike is more stable at higher speeds, because physics, but at lower speeds, it really feels like the bike wants to fall over and my instinct is to counter it.
Try speed with not so tight turns when you lean. Build confidence and then make it tighter. Make sure you don't pull your clutch when you are unsure, then you cut the power and loose speed and the bike will have a harder time to stand up
There's also other tricks like riding the clutch and the rear brake that can help at slower speeds, mostly just to modulate the throttle and make micro adjustments. If you can find a big empty parking lot you won't get in trouble for using I'd suggest practicing in it. Try to see how many parking spaces it takes to do a u turn and try to shrink that to less than 2 spaces.
It’s not a "slower speed turn", it’s a "tighter turn". You can’t go super slow and super tight.
@@Rependand maybe even go so far as to lose enough power through the turn that it falls over as well
@@RependYoo man you opened my eyes I didn't know why I didn't think this sooner😅 you are right I liked your suggestion I screenshot it really helpful
8th month of riding and can comfortable make U-turns and 360s at slow speeds. I'm still not 100% comfortable at full bar lock but each day I move a little closer to that goal.
your videos/advice help tremendously.
Thanks again!!!
keep at it!
Imorove Slow speed turns by going faster ...🤦
Nobody goes slow because he wants to go slow but because there is a reason for it. And sometimes while going slow you have to make a turn...
Riding is more than practicing in a parking lot doing small radiuses. A good rider practises to ride his bike in every situation. Guess what, you can do even tighter turns with a little burnout. Valid riding technique on dirt. Doesn't make it the ultimate riding technique in a mixed traffic zone with pedestrians for low speed cornering, does it ?.tight turn and slow turn are not the same thing. There's a situation for both. And a rider should practice both
I'm so grateful for your channel, I practice low speed turning on almost every ride(whenever I can find an empty parking lot). It's crazy how confident and comfortable I feel riding because of all the practice... and I've only been riding for about a month and a half!
I'm also very grateful for my instructors at my Basic Rider Course who also taught how to use lean for low-speed maneuvers.
What Moto-Jistu misses is that these Motorcycle Cops teach this "vertical turning" technique specifically for use on slippery surfaces like gravel.
He criticizes a technique without bothering to understand its purpose.
These same Motorcycle Cops teach the leaning techniques all day every day for regular conditions.
Yes. There obviously are situations where you need to be slow. (Can’t whoosh around a tight space with traffic at more than 8MPH sometimes.)
I guess he needs to watch Moto Control channel to learn how to do it in his video as a reply to this one.
@@Muzikji he already did and deleted his comment on that channel.
@@RahulSharma-nv2fqwhat did he originally comment
@@rahulk2633 I don’t know bro, I got to know that too late as well.
In the trainers defense their course is designed for people that don’t have the feel for the bike that you have. That being said this is very good information that you’re sharing with us. It’s definitely helping me.
The moto cops that do the competition skills are fun to watch and those guys don’t just use handlebars with no lean. They fly as fast as they can and constantly lean and scrape the floor boards. I can’t believe people actually teach that. I’m glad you’re spreading good knowledge to riders. It’s scary surprising how many people on bikes really don’t know how to ride. They can go down the road and that’s it. I will never forget my fist riding test a long time ago to get my endorsement and there was only a few of us out of 17 that passed. A lady on a trike failed right away because she had zero clutch and throttle control but the two oldest people there on big full dresser bikes that said they have been riding for 30+ years and finally decided to get their endorsement and they both failed right away as well.
Been watching you for a while now. I ride an Indian Chieftain and I am trying to balance "scraping" my boards versus laying my bike down. I don't have 25k to pay my bike off if I damage it so it holds me back.
However, i have learned a lot watching your videos. And as a Newer rider, I appreciate your knowledge and the clarity of your explanations.
This is just the ultimate tip. Transformed my low speed. That and "be assertive". Went out and tried it this evening - feel like i went up a belt. Great tips. Thanks man!
Yes !!!!!! you are absolutely correct, it's all in feeling the ride, I always believed this all my life, I been riding over 50 years, great job on explaining this 👍
thanks...more speed = more lean = tighter turns!
Dear Greg, my instructor was an ex-cop and during the slow driving lessons at the range he taught me the opposite of what you are saying in this video. I think he was right.
In Finland you can't go over 5kph in the slow manouvering test it's hard. You can Google traficom motorcycle test manual explains the course and speed. 15 to 20mph isn't a slow turn that would be 24kph to 34kph and a complete fail.
I bet he would fail it.
Just picked up my first 1250gs and mennn I love this bike. Coming from a sport bike background, feels like I have a lot to learn. Love your channel man. Very helpful and informative!!!
thanks!
Thank you for this lesson. My coach told everyone in the safety riding course, always lean to same side as the corner. He doesn't want to see any counterbalancing.
welcome!
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Don't know why I was so excited to hear you say if you aren't scrapping your floor boards on a cruiser you aren't leaning enough. I am a re-entry rider after about 15 years off, so getting into practicing slow speed/u-turns, nothing like my old ZX6R and I am always scraping so I thought I was getting too low and treating it more like my old bike. Love the content thanks for all you do for the community.
Thanks for all the help man. Pulled off my 1st full lock circle today on my 125cc duke. Been practicing every day for the last 2 weeks and trying to complete my brown belt! Also have full gear now that makes me feel far more confident.
Nice work!
Great video. I feel like I always knew this in the back of my head, but I never realized its all about speed and lean angle
one in the same...more speed = more lean angle = more lean angle is what's needed!!
You make so much sense to my mind thank you! I’ve watched this video so many times because in the class I took they told me everything you said not to do and I kept going faster and actually getting it in class and they kept telling me I needed to slow down and then I’d fail the task.
Maybe part of the issue with people going too slow comes from calling it a low speed turn. We could just call it a tight turn. Or a lower speed tight turn, vs higher speed tight turn. Regardless of speed, the bike has to lean enough for the steering geometry to create that “cone” that corresponds to the angle of the turn. And for a super tight angle, because tires can only handle so much lateral load, you are limited in how fast you can go. So that lower speed limits the forces that can hold the bike up at that given angle, and so you may need to counter weight your bike with your body. But at higher speeds you can do the opposite and lean into the turn - to keep the required bike lean angle within limits, and that lets you maintain more speed to make that turn. So low speed tight turns you lean the bike but your body can stay upright to counter weight, and high speed tight turns you do the opposite and lean your body in to the turn so you can carry even more speed at that given angle.
go faster, lean more, tighter turns
An inexperienced Rider cannot do a turn because they're afraid they're going to fall over
I completed a course taught by the Chandler (AZ) PD Motor Unit about 8 weeks ago on my '19 DCT Goldwing. The lean and higher speed and looking to where you want to go was key to tight turns, tight U-turns. We used the same course the Moto Unit uses for training. No clutch so a lot of rear brake use to control the speed as the DCT is real responsive to throttle. Was a free course that they conduct quarterly.
In my EU country low speed maneuvers are required to be done at 4 km/h = 2,5 MPH in order to pass for the test for driving license. I am not joking.
Who cares? Do what you have to for the course but afterwards on your own bike, go faster, lean more.
Yeah but in the EU we also teach counter-leaning, which lets you lean the bike way more. Not sure why MJ doesn't mention it, it seems like a huge missed opportunity. Seems the MJ way to practice low speed skills is to avoid low speeds.
"In my EU country"? Have some pride in your nation man! You're a country before a political organisation.
Same in the UK. Got to be slow speed on the test. Like MJ said elsewhere, do the test how they want you to do it, then after you've passed, re-educate yourself 😂
Actually when I did my exam our instructor mentioned that we have to forget everything that we have learned on the course to pass and as a direct continuation offered a slow turn course after the successful exam, end this is precisely what we learned as a new riders. It turned to be invaluable and also what a sales pitch for course continuation 👍
That is really great advice and something you eventually figure out for yourself, but having a head start is very helpful. Last year I returned to motorcycling after a 38 year break (yeah I know), and confidence with low speed corners is taking the longest to recover. This vid will really help…. Practice, practice, practice!
You are 100% / the more you learn the more you know you need to learn. Henn eyes is definitely fantastic advice and it’s more than just beginner level. The things you’re explaining are more intermediate in advanced. But again, I agree, 100% with everything you’re saying.
Yep, started like that.. but once I got comfotable with my bike started leaning more and everything got easier. Great video as always!
thanks
About that “vision” stuff, I agree with you, is also how you “feel” the bike…
Somehow, when we ride, we are “connected” to the bike, so yes… it have lotta sense!
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Practicing friction zone control, slow u-turns and waves in the parking lot is key to improving as a rider. Appreciate all the videos.
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Thanks for helping us break out of the B.S. zone and into reality. Everyone who wants to ride and improve should be watching your videos. I have sent people your links to watch your channel several times now just to help because no one gives such down-to-earth and detailed explanations as you.
Thanks!
Good points about leaning being an advantage to tighter turning with some increase in speed! Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
I think the look where you’re going is great advice for beginners. As you said eventually it becomes muscle memory and that’s definitely an advanced many seasoned rider has and then you can adjust to your skill level
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I ride R1250RT and handle it very confidently through twisties but I was walking the bike initially at slow turns. Now I practice slow turns after every ride for 10-15 mins like @motojitsu suggested doing in his videos. It has been very helpful and I have been steadily improving. 👍 you are a good instructor.
My coach, my guide, my trainer, Thanks
Have to admit I really love these videos you put out. You've given me a lot of information about how much I don't understand. For about a year I've had a KLR 650 that people either love or hate. But I smile like a little kid when I ride it. Though when it comes to low speed turns I really had to get over some mental intimidation due to the height of it.
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Excellent! Thats perfectly logical. Let’s practice uturn this way! Thanks a lot.
During my course here in QC, I had to do u-turns from a stop. When I figured out more speed = more success, it was a game changer and got me ready for the test.
sweet!
Thinking about it like this, you need that power of the rear wheel to DRIVE you forward. More power, more speed, more stability, great tips here 🎉
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Motorcycle instructors do teach beginners to look at where you want to go, simply because beginners are afraid, and a motorcycle is a wonder of machinery but also an overwhelming piece of engineering for most people at first, especially if you have been used to drive a car and the idea to drive a 200kg+ motorcycle as a 80kg average is a great challenge if we think about. As beginners tend to overgrip their handlebars, looking at where you go means for beginners being able to turn because looking will imply turning the shoulders, which are connected to the arms, which are connected to the handlebars. Then, when a beginner starts to realize it can be more beneficial to be easing the grip on the handlebars, and drive the motorcycle more with the lower part of their body (the legs and abs), they can learn more advanced techniques like yours. I really love your videos and I've learned a lot, but I think that there is no wrong or right techniques, motorcycles instructors were, are and will always teach relevant techniques for their audience (beginners). Your audience has evolved with you, so you teach intermediate as well as advanced techniques. Also, you can't go that fast if you are in a heavy traffic so that's why here in France motorcycle instructors do teach slow speed (maybe we should call it very slow speed because in your video slow speed means around 10km/h as you are taking those turn pretty fast even though its not that fast) simply because you will have situation where you need to be below 5km/h but still don't wan't to drop you big BMW 1250RT which weights 280kg+ and in a tight closed parking lot or in heavy traffic like in Paris, you can't be that fast that simply impossible. I hope to see more videos of yours that teach very slow speed techniques because you have some, but I feel like it is something that beginners tends to want to see because beginners tends to drop their bike mostly on very slow or even at a stop and I know I needed those techniques back then when I was a beginner. Love always!
I know...I taught for 8 years...but there's much more to learn beyond the basic info.
Wow, doing circles in your garage was pretty awesome. Great job. Thanks!
thanks
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Those garage circles kill me everytime !!!
Doodle, you're my favorite so far. I'm looking to buy a motorcycle but before then I'm trying to learn as much as possible from TH-cam. Thank you guys/gals for all the great content.
This is brilliant. Low speed skills makes one a far better rider than publicity stunts..
Great video. That has been something I've learned riding. I practice regularly and feel the bike and listen to the sound of the motor as I'm doing U-turns when I ride my FZ1 and R1 and have to be going 8-11 mph doing slow speed maneuvers. On the R1 I have to lean it because the handle bars lock quickly, so the bike must lean. 😊 Practice 15 minutes every ride. 👍
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It is not about too much knowledge, it is about training, experience and muscle memory. I ended up in such situation, when it seemed I had more knowledge than my instructor, but he had practice, training and experience. Believe it, or not, he poorly explained almost everything about slow speed maneuvers, but he was good at doing these maneuvers. So, during courses I just watched him doing his thing, and put in practice what i saw in your videos. At the end I told him I was quite disappointed about paying motorcycle school, just to have access to some motorcycles that should have been scrapped long time ago. Waste of time and money. Finally, I postponed the license exam with the police, and bought a small 50cc motorcycle which can be ridden with car license, and started learning by my own. Moto Jitsu App is helping me a lot.
The definition of knowledge is skills acquired through experience and practice, and muscle memory comes with that lol
keep at it!
Your tips are really great, I hope to use them today as turns really are a sore spot for me (always afraid of falling) but you also give me very high anxiety with your absolute skill 😂 you looking the other way, my brain ist just like „no WAY!“
go practice!
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MotoJitsu : Do circles in your garage! You have a problem with that?!
Me : No sensei....
MotoJitsu : No mercy -_-
hahahahha
Finally worked through your books and now I have nightmares about riding through my garage door!
lol!
@@MotoJitsu BTW, when I first started working on your first book (I was on a 1200cc Triumph) I kept dropping the bike in the parking lot. A couple of times the bike stalled because I came out of the friction zone too quickly on a turn, and other times the bike just dropped because i did not understand that I was going too slow. I was going to quit your books. I've been on bikes for years, but your slow speed levels just seemed too difficult. I then saw you talk about speed and lean, and it clicked. I jumped from your white to blue belt courses in a couple of weeks, then to brown, etc. It absolutely was the speed and lean. Now I'm on a BMW GS and at 66, I am having a blast. I also did the Champ school (online as I am in Japan) and that made all the difference on the twisties and mountain trails. I'm now working on off road skills. Don't stop learning and practicing!
Awesome to hear! Keep at it
Hi I'm a new rider from Mexico, what do you think about the advices of the channel be the boss of your motorcycle ? Because he recommends use the rear break and preload
Cheers
Keep it loaded!
yup, i was going too slow starting out, mostly apprehension. got the speed up and lean lower, thanks motojitsu!
Keep it up
Excellent vehicles in your garage. Red jeep and two bikes. WOW. Love it.
Absolutely correct! I have been teaching my students this for years.😀👍
more speed = more lean = tighter turns!
Pulling out of an intersection, Checking for traffic coming from your right, while turning left, to join that flow of traffic.
I wish I could train with you in person! I love your videos. Thank you so much. You have helped me a lot. I still have issues getting my goldwing to lean you make it look so easy. Thank you again!
glad to hear it!
I really like this format with voiceover over demonstration video! Keep them coming!
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You’ve got a lot of flack for this. I’m not much of an expert so I can’t critique the praxis, but you make personable, to-the-point content that directly improves the safety of many human beings. You should be proud of that, in the case of whatever shade you of grey you may be right or wrong in this instance.
Most people who don't like what I had to say in this video are those who can barley do a U-turn, let alone anything remotely close to what I can do on a bike...oh well, people will always attack what they're jelous of.
Good info...clutch/throttle and rear brakes. with a torquey bike, i.e. MT09, CB650 etc, what gear for such slow turn, 1st gear for these bikes, i find my hands grip so hard on the throttle, a quick sneeze or a fart, one will open the throttle in no time. and since one is making turning our hands need to be flexible, unlike straight road...
IC. No wonder I fell the other day doing a tight turn with too slow a speed. Thanks.
Looking forward to practicing more, now that our weather is warm. Even a 17HP bike can have a twitchy throttle (mine does) which means more clutch work.
get to it!
There is a big difference in a typical daily routine very slow speed turn where there are many obstacles and a specific parking lot turn at a relatively higher speed. İn the former, I need to consider all stakeholders (cars, pedestrians, animals, wet surface, opening doors etc. Therefore I need to be very slow, keep the bike as much upright as possible, thus rely heavily on throttle, clutch and rear brake, because I have nearly no centrifugal force. İn the Latter, İn a controlled parking lot, to make turns around cones, I can gain more speed, thus more centrifugal force İn turns, and I can even ignore clutch, lean the bike (even my self with the bike ) and complete a faster u turn. As you see, these are 2 different things and both are absolutely correct.
This video isn't about lane splitting or going very slow and upright around cars or animals or pedestrians.
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Thanks for sharing these knowledge tips!
My pleasure!
I wish I saw this years ago. Awesome video.
Love your passion to teach and share your years of knowledge, keep up the great work 👌🏻
Thanks, will do!
Thank You MJ. I needed this. Love it
Always look over the parking lot in which you are training BEFORE you begin. Had a recent experience where I almost had the front wheel wash out beneath me due to an accumulation of sandy remnants of the existing (aging) asphalt. It was almost impossible to see until you were standing directly over top of it due to the fact that it's the same material. Must have been washed into one spot from a heavy rain, blown or swept there...
or just pay more attention to what you're doing
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Thanks for the continued vids MotoJitsu. You're saving lives and helping all of us at the same time. God Bless you and yours brother. 🇺🇸🫡
almost 500k!
@@MotoJitsu Cant wait to see 1 mil brother
maybe one day
Excellent video mate, I'm there taking it all in learning and learning. Its really useful what your teaching us. Yes a car park is the best place to practice.
thanks
For someone who grew up riding stingray bikes, a lot of my turning instincts were related to that, and my later commuting experiences. I think that going back to that in my mind, made me more comfortable trusting the bike wouldn’t do anything different if treated it the same. Not sure I’m conveying this correctly, but I love this video. Great stuff. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Me and my 72' Schwinn Stingray.Those were the days.😊
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you know how to make the U-turns even tighter? burnouts.
burnouts, much like your "yeah man just build some speed and lean the bike more - even motorcops get this wrong!!!1!" approach, are situational. I would pay to see you, a self-proclaimed black-belt, try to make a U turn on some loose gravel. 04:14 - also super funny that apparently "you _can_ look up and plan ahead" is a deep level of knowledge.
I've seen a lot of your videos and I really liked them, but these recent ones are just underwhelming, and full on "do this, in this way, otherwise you're just a white belt"
I've been following your lessons for a few months now as I work up for my Spanish A2 licence. We have to do a slow speed course. Google it if you have time. Unfortunately, I don't think there's the capability of going faster around the sticks. Exam a week on Monday.
Are you sure ? Here it is pretty much "you must go no slower than X" but there isn't a top speed limit.
Just imagine you're your fellow countryman MM93. You'll be fine 😉
I follow you for years and your tips are way more helpful than what I learned in drivers school. Especially your tips about riding in the city. Life saving. But regardless how much I practice I dropped it on the parking lot and struggle with turns since then 😢 guess the answer is keep practicing 😉
BRUH.... love your content and it has helped me SO MUCH. I share your information with anyone that will listen!!!!!
I appreciate that!
Ive been practicing slow speed turns my entire riding career…. Which is about 1.5 weeks on a GSX 8S…. And less than 50 total miles. First bike, first time riding.
I do need to speed up…. For sure
keep at it!!!
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Ha! Thank you.
I remember I took a course from motor officers and they told me the same thing. Their reasoning was it was a side by side parade technique. It’s cool in that setting but not very practical.
Speed & control. Thanks
Thank you Moto Sensei. I will practice 👍🛵
If you're in a course and they tell you "just turn the bars" take it with a grain of salt. Practice slow speed balancing with zero lean angle, sure, but don't expect to get through my drills or through a cop-like course by "only turning the bars" without more speed & lean angle.
I don’t know if they have trial riding in the u.s but you wouldn’t do it like this - more upright and controlled low speed is completely achievable and valid.
Be the best you can be, and never stop learning how to do it better. 😊 practice never stops ✋️ 😅
Frak! Nice garage floor! I'm so glad you had your eyes up and weren't looking down at it! WHAM!
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Motojitsu don’t be that guy !!!
Thanks for this, needen this to master my brown/black belt drills ;)
more practice!
I wonder how many times Greg hit the toolbox in the garage. 😂
0, go watch the full video on my channel
When was the TITLE and COVER PICTURE of this video CHANGED ?
Do this in your next vid MotoJitsu… A simple demo is to use a light bike like a dirt bike. Mark a starting point from back tyre, turn with the bars locked and walk (yes, off the bike) 180 degrees. Mark the end point. Then go back to the start, full lock and LEAN the bike. See the difference. Light bulb 💡 moment!
Go for it
More lean angle brings you closer to the point of no return. The speed needed to avoid the point of no return may be too high. Use the right technique in the appropriate circumstance.
more lean is needed for tight turns...
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hi, first of all i want to thank you that you gave me a lot of insight on low speed turns, I am a new learner from Hong Kong and in our exam we have a figure 8 drills on a slope that we need to perform. If you need videos I can send you some on what we actually need to do. I am struggling at the moment on the slow speed performance. I understand more now about the chin pointing to where I want to go, but in this drill we cannot use the clutch as the stopping mechanism. We need to only rely on the throttle and rear brake. Will you able to give me some idea how to handle it thank you
more practice, like anything else you're trying to improve at
Thank you!!! Awesome clip,Thats why I couldent do those turns on my sport bike .To Dam slow..Tried what you showed= Cake walk :) Thanks again
more leannnnnn!!!
I disagree on that one, and i'm a bit surprised by your stance as you defend slow speed skills usually.
Be able to lean that far at not so slow speed as you show is a great skill to have no argue in that but you shouldn't disregard even slower speed.
In several countries it's part of the motorcycle license exam to do a really slow speed ride through gates (1.5 to 2 mph or less ) without putting foot on the floor.
This is to learn to navigate in really crowded area, with lots of pedestrian or just with a lot of cars in a traffic jam where you dont have the luxury to go faster safely.
Though maybe it's less important in north america where you often have more room to maneuver, you should consider a "slow race" just as a different skill of balance to practice .
Real nice garage circles anyway✌
Don't care what's required in a test....do what you have to do to pass...but if you think that's all there is to learn, good luck. Try doing my MotoJitsu drills going 2mph or less...let me know how it goes for you.
I've done slow races and won many...you don't seem to get the point of this video.
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@@MotoJitsu I do get that you absolutely need to train to turn as you describe it in this video and not relly only on staying upright / turn bars only .
It just gave the impression that you think there is no point to be able to do even slower speed exercices, but with the link you provided i now see that it's not the case, my mistake.
I've followed your channel for a bit more than a year and have not seen that video.
Thanks for replying !
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not easy to turn slow and not easy to turn faster. let s practice both. heck everything thrown at us . i believe there is not only one way to skin a cat . the idea is to spend sometime practicing everything ..... thanks for the great tuto Greg!
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Ok on 5:35 , dude that was impressive!
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You just blew up some training, but I agree 💯!