if you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime! MJ played in a time where if you didn't catch a fish, you didn't eat! he now has to be judged by a society, that feels it's entitled to be given a damn fish!!!!
Christian Laettner acted the same way at Duke. He got into it with Bobby Hurley all the time. Even Grant Hill, who's one of the nicest guys in sports history. He kept pushing them to make them tougher mentally, and it resulted in four Final Fours and 2 titles.
MJ was a great teammate. He would have found motivation regardless. From the Doc I have a new respect level for Wennington, because it appears Bill had bought into that mentality 100%. Also I applaud Burrell for taking that whipping and still ticking, without being bitter.
@@danieloceans9652 Yes, i saw that as well. Made me smile. I feel a lot of the statements from “The Last Dance” have been misinterpreted by some to show Jordan in the worst possible light. 🤷♀️ Haters gonna hate.
Phenomenal teammate as it relates to the game itself, but a horrible person as it relates to the way he treated his teammates, and that is exactly why the GOAT, and he is the GOAT, was breaking down crying and calling for a break when they were asking him about it. His level of competitiveness was/is at a level that perhaps no one in the history of all sports has ever equalled, simultaneously being his greatest strength as an athlete and teammate and his greatest weakness as a person. He didn't want friends, he wanted champions and to be a champion, because that is why you play. He did it at all costs, within the rules of the game, and it probably cost him a lot of genuine friendships over the years. It came at a tremendous cost. Something that he said in one of the earlier episode's about his gambling situation that was EXTREMELY significant: "I don't have a gambling problem, I have a competition problem." That statement pretty much says it all.
I agree except for calling him a "horrible person". I mean that's very harsh and he doesn't deserve it. He also has shown a lot of good qualities as a human being.
@@酎ハイ飲んだらいい感じ No, it appears he is an amazing person in may respects - he seems to be very philanthropic without boasting about it and it seems he always made extra time for kids, especially less fortunate and disabled kids, during his playing career, among many other things; that is why I said he was a "horrible person as it relates to the way he treated his teammates."
@@eddiesanchez551 "That was all I needed. He thinks he can come up to me in my city the night before a Finals game? I took that as a sign of disrespect, showed me they weren't taking us seriously. So I had to go crush them." - Michael Jordan if Karl had gone up to him
WTF, MJ was the best player in the world, and he wanted the best out of each of his teammates, and if I played with someone with that caliber status, I'll be shooting and gunning for every targets with determination... When someone is great, to be even be a support to the success is an achievement... Look at Paxon, Steve Kerr, ... the shot game winners and helped MJ's legacy... could MJ took those last shots? Sure, but even MJ said that Paxon was hot in the 4th QTR....
He got it DONE. They pay you Millions of dollars not to just show up. You are paid to be the best version of yourself. PERIOD. To be focus, self discipline and committed to Winning. MJ is Great. The way your supposed to be in your craft.
I rather play for a person who demands 110%, to improve all the time, to win at all cost and hate losing even in scrimmage. If this doesn’t make you a better player, nothing will. Yes it will be tough but as a professional who is there to play the game, to win games and titles. This is what any player needs. All greats of any sport have the same focus as MJ.
Just like how Brady's teammates tell stories that he is crazier in practice and that the way he handles in-game pressure is nothing compared to what they get in practice.
Rich, it's called TOUGH LOVE. When your 10 yr old son gives the why/what for/don't want to...etc - when he declares why he doesn't want to do his math homework, You Better be Ready to give your son.... SOME TOUGH LOVE! He'll have many more opportunities in life if he learns to practice this homework discipline. Jordan had and shared that same discipline in practice with his teammates. That's not being an A-Hole, that's maximizing your potential!
In a politically correct world one might say he created a hostile work environment. In the real world he hated losing more than anything and he made his team championship ready both mentally and physically!
Everyone talks about michael didn't grow up in a generation with social media. Can you imagine if he had social media and anyone who would talk bad about him would light even a crazier competitive Michael. Everyone is saying averaging 40 but 50 looks more like it. Even Phil Jackson had to check Michael telling him scoring leaders don't win championships, so he had to tone the scoring down a bit.
Jordan seem to me to be a very demanding teammate. Scott Burrell is a great example of how hard Jordan pushed his teammates, but off the court they seem very friendly toward each other. Like Jordan said if you can't take it then you might not want to be apart... Burrell understood ... even Jordan said he could never get to him. If Jordan was consider to be a tyrant by his teammates then they wouldn't have been happy to see him come back. They were very happy.
Of course MJ wud dominate todays game. He’s the greatest of ALL time. But social media wud shred him and he wudn’t be as beloved as he was (probly). He wud be massively click’able tho. As wud Rodman. Lol.
Victor Gaglione internet spelling rules for ease of use. So r u a douche or a doosh? Spell check that WUD ya. (And way to “like” ur own comment there Poindexter).
Bulling and belittling people is not the way to get the best out of them. This would never happen in today's NBA where teams understand how encouragement and positive feedback are MUCH more effective than promoting an atmosphere of fear and anxiety.
Such wrong take. MJ was pushing his teammates to be better. Don't they understand at time the game was physical even Kerr said that was how was even with other teams
He was pushing them. During the regular season, some teams treated their games against the Bulls like a playoff game. The Bulls always had to be ready and be ready for a physical game. Even the worst teams played hard against the Bulls.
Those that ask the question about if Jordan would’ve succeed in 2020 I guarantee was born after 98. Jordan was an arragant prick, but he won, that’s all the hell that matters Look at how much leaveway the media gives Belicheck, Poppovich, and Kerr, they can say what the want and people will agree with them due to their professional success
Jordan is gangster. I imagine if yout not gangster it would be hard to understand.. No? How do his ex teamates feel about watching him play with the Wizards? Hmm.
We accept that Brady is was an a-hole because he won seven rings. He’d be on the sidelines screaming in the faces of teammates and coaches in public and we were like “yea, that’s Tom, isn’t he amazing?!!”
I don’t agree with the jimmy butler comment🤨I think he wants to win a ring that’s why he’s trying to push his teammates cause obviously they went going to win the way they were playing.
Zone defense would kill MJ. It started in his second season with the Wizards and he openly complained about allowing "Illegal defense" cuz he couldn't get around it. HE'd be great but to say he's run "roughshod" is a little bit of a stretch cuz the league change din a way he couldn't adapt to.
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Kobe had 5 chips. 2006-2010 he was demonic. only a moron would think a player like Mj couldn't dominate because of ZONE DEFENSE! that's Lebron! Dallas beat him with zone in 2011 because he didn't have a real shot back then LOL
@medschool2626 a lot of Bronsexuals writing here these comments are beyond being noobs about basketball. sometimes i suspect some of them even know the ball is round. zone defense! 🤣🤣🤣🤣👌👌👌👌😂🤣🤣🤣
Common man lol. Yes Jordan is great but not perfect and all he does is not good. We turn everything he does I to something good when it is not. The result done matter even what's bad is bad even if the outcome is good.
I guess it must be against the law to say anything against Jordan, people are just eating this stuff up. It's funny to me that the thing Jordan admires about himself is the one thing he does not like about anybody else. That is the win at all cost mentality. He hates Isiah, but Isiah was that way. That's why he was disliked so much. If you don't kiss his butt, he has a problem with you. Bye Mike
Why do you couch your position, with some straw man argument about not being allowed to hold a negative opinion of MJ. There are plenty of negative opinions about MJ out there even those specific to this topic. I dont believe MJ ever explicitly said he doesn't like the way Isaiah Thomas led his team, how would he really know? He hated the way they played dirty and for walking off the court in 91 etc. There is no contradiction here.
@@dnice4145 Well if there is I haven't seen or heard them, but if that's cool. He did say that he respected his game, but still hated him. The pistons did not play dirty, what they did was within the rules of the game at that time, and they were not the only ones playing that style of basketball. Most of the eastern conference played a physical style of basketball. And so what they didn't shake his hand, get over it. As Isiah said, Boston walked off the same way when the pistons beat them, and nobody said a word, but because Mike got his feelings hurt it became a big deal. Oh, and let's not forget the comments MJ made about the pistons not deserving to be champions, and that nobody outside of Detroit would miss them if they lost.
Sensitive dude dad was killed and they blamed him for it I like lebron and hate ppl always compare them but let's be honest MJ was huge celebrity nowhere near MJ. You think MJ would be faced by social media. The dude doesn't care lol. You see how he is living his life now
Jordan was a dick. I thought that when he was playing, I thought that when he retired and nothing that has happened in the documentary has changed my mind. I could almost forgive the way he acted, but it was a one way street with him. He was a baby and expected special treatment while at the same time.
Every single one of those ex-teammates will brag to their kids and grandkids that they played with the GOAT 🐐
Wait they played with Lebron?
@@jg7102 gtfo
@@jg7102 clown
@@jg7102 🤣🤣🤣 lechoke doesn't even come close. Lechokes teammates still say MJ is the goat expect for the washed up clowns who were bench players.
@@gagandhaliwal9391 hah your a troll stop overrating that piece of crap Michael Jordan he’s a horrible teammate and piece of crap
"For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled" -Hunter S. Thompson
if you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime!
MJ played in a time where if you didn't catch a fish, you didn't eat! he now has to be judged by a society, that feels it's entitled to be given a damn fish!!!!
Yes, you said that eloquently.
Ray that's a drip the mic quote!!! Very good 👍👌
Social engineering has done this
Great comment
Ray, you are so right. Great comment.
Being a demanding leader that brings the best out of everyone his team makes you the best kind of teammate.
No it doesn’t
Did two threepeats so his leadership style clearly worked lol
Wth?! This is way better than sports center ! I love the perspective and the i can see that sports fan passion you have...bravo!
Yes sir! Welcome to the Rich Eisen show.
All the players don’t call him the Goat for nothing
Matthew Heywood I trust their opinion a little more than a 20 year old Lebron fan. No doubt.
Nelly 35***
Christian Laettner acted the same way at Duke. He got into it with Bobby Hurley all the time. Even Grant Hill, who's one of the nicest guys in sports history. He kept pushing them to make them tougher mentally, and it resulted in four Final Fours and 2 titles.
MJ was a great teammate. He would have found motivation regardless. From the Doc I have a new respect level for Wennington, because it appears Bill had bought into that mentality 100%. Also I applaud Burrell for taking that whipping and still ticking, without being bitter.
I got the feeling that Jordan really liked and favored Scott Burrell. I believe they’re friends to this day.
@@deniseleppanen9016 saw an interview where Scott said him and Jordan still play golf together
@@danieloceans9652
Yes, i saw that as well. Made me smile.
I feel a lot of the statements from “The Last Dance” have been misinterpreted by some to show Jordan in the worst possible light. 🤷♀️
Haters gonna hate.
@@deniseleppanen9016 absolutely.
Phenomenal teammate as it relates to the game itself, but a horrible person as it relates to the way he treated his teammates, and that is exactly why the GOAT, and he is the GOAT, was breaking down crying and calling for a break when they were asking him about it.
His level of competitiveness was/is at a level that perhaps no one in the history of all sports has ever equalled, simultaneously being his greatest strength as an athlete and teammate and his greatest weakness as a person.
He didn't want friends, he wanted champions and to be a champion, because that is why you play. He did it at all costs, within the rules of the game, and it probably cost him a lot of genuine friendships over the years. It came at a tremendous cost.
Something that he said in one of the earlier episode's about his gambling situation that was EXTREMELY significant:
"I don't have a gambling problem, I have a competition problem."
That statement pretty much says it all.
I agree except for calling him a "horrible person". I mean that's very harsh and he doesn't deserve it. He also has shown a lot of good qualities as a human being.
@@酎ハイ飲んだらいい感じ No, it appears he is an amazing person in may respects - he seems to be very philanthropic without boasting about it and it seems he always made extra time for kids, especially less fortunate and disabled kids, during his playing career, among many other things; that is why I said he was a "horrible person as it relates to the way he treated his teammates."
Your justifying Jordan being a horrible fucking person
MJ is the best I’ve ever seen. Ever.
Best at being a horrible person
If George Karl would've said Hi to Jordan in that restaurant Jordan would've still took that as disrespect.
I can hear it now. " He said hi to me in my city?... I must destroy them?"
@@eddiesanchez551 "That was all I needed. He thinks he can come up to me in my city the night before a Finals game? I took that as a sign of disrespect, showed me they weren't taking us seriously. So I had to go crush them."
- Michael Jordan if Karl had gone up to him
WTF, MJ was the best player in the world, and he wanted the best out of each of his teammates, and if I played with someone with that caliber status, I'll be shooting and gunning for every targets with determination... When someone is great, to be even be a support to the success is an achievement... Look at Paxon, Steve Kerr, ... the shot game winners and helped MJ's legacy... could MJ took those last shots? Sure, but even MJ said that Paxon was hot in the 4th QTR....
No U wouldn’t MJ would bully u
@@The_king567 lol yes he would, I s!ck at basketball
Love mj all the way❤️
LeBron has lost as much as Jordan won.
if your a lazy player and only want monthly pay check. its bad for you....
but if you want greatness and championship... welcome to the club.
He got it DONE. They pay you Millions of dollars not to just show up. You are paid to be the best version of yourself. PERIOD. To be focus, self discipline and committed to Winning. MJ is Great. The way your supposed to be in your craft.
To the soft generation of participation medals, yes he was a horrible teammate 😂
He was and he’s a horrible person
Micheal Jordan will average 45 in today’s soft NBA lead by Lebron James cry for everything despite his strength
Your such a fucking troll Michael Jordan is a horrible person get a fucking life u losers
Rich, THAT was fuckin' EXCELLENT!
I rather play for a person who demands 110%, to improve all the time, to win at all cost and hate losing even in scrimmage. If this doesn’t make you a better player, nothing will. Yes it will be tough but as a professional who is there to play the game, to win games and titles. This is what any player needs. All greats of any sport have the same focus as MJ.
Just like how Brady's teammates tell stories that he is crazier in practice and that the way he handles in-game pressure is nothing compared to what they get in practice.
Rich, it's called TOUGH LOVE. When your 10 yr old son gives the why/what for/don't want to...etc - when he declares why he doesn't want to do his math homework, You Better be Ready to give your son.... SOME TOUGH LOVE! He'll have many more opportunities in life if he learns to practice this homework discipline.
Jordan had and shared that same discipline in practice with his teammates. That's not being an A-Hole, that's maximizing your potential!
Love your show. MJ was the beast in the NBA and now one of the richest sportsman in business world, all best of what? His drive to win, yeah.
I'm impressed with MJ and if he ran I would vote for him as President!
@Chi Sun Why?
Jesus.
In a politically correct world one might say he created a hostile work environment. In the real world he hated losing more than anything and he made his team championship ready both mentally and physically!
Hey, all the Bulls said it was worth it. End of discussion. Except for the losers.
Horrible people don’t get a pass for being dicks
Damn why they have to diss my nigga jimmy butler like that mann smh
MJ was right plain and simple that's how men should be
I'd love a teammate like that pushed me to reach the ultimate goal, a championship. Today, it's just about getting your bag.
Everyone talks about michael didn't grow up in a generation with social media. Can you imagine if he had social media and anyone who would talk bad about him would light even a crazier competitive Michael. Everyone is saying averaging 40 but 50 looks more like it. Even Phil Jackson had to check Michael telling him scoring leaders don't win championships, so he had to tone the scoring down a bit.
that was beautifully said
Jordan seem to me to be a very demanding teammate. Scott Burrell is a great example of how hard Jordan pushed his teammates, but off the court they seem very friendly toward each other.
Like Jordan said if you can't take it then you might not want to be apart... Burrell understood ... even Jordan said he could never get to him.
If Jordan was consider to be a tyrant by his teammates then they wouldn't have been happy to see him come back. They were very happy.
So Bobby knight is celebrated yet Jordan is a jerk? No he is not a bad guy or a good guy he is just a guy that wins with passion
It's either play w Jordan and become a champion, or don't play w Jordan and be a loser.
It’s more Chris Paul then jimmy butler
It's both of them!!!!!
Even the coaches were tough back then
being nice out of the game and during play are two different things...
Of course MJ wud dominate todays game. He’s the greatest of ALL time. But social media wud shred him and he wudn’t be as beloved as he was (probly). He wud be massively click’able tho. As wud Rodman. Lol.
Tom Shepard bro spell check; fucking use it please. The ignorance is hurting my brain. It’s “would” not wud.
Victor Gaglione internet spelling rules for ease of use. So r u a douche or a doosh? Spell check that WUD ya.
(And way to “like” ur own comment there Poindexter).
Tom Shepard bahahahaha sure guy definitely didn’t like my own comment. If you are ok with being ignorant it doesn’t bother me.
Sure thing tiny hands. Mommy wants her tablet back now.
he led his team to 2 three peat
All of the about!
How does that make him Jimmy Butler???
Bulling and belittling people is not the way to get the best out of them. This would never happen in today's NBA where teams understand how encouragement and positive feedback are MUCH more effective than promoting an atmosphere of fear and anxiety.
People need to stop overrating Michael Jordan and need to stop justifying him being a horrible person
Such wrong take. MJ was pushing his teammates to be better. Don't they understand at time the game was physical even Kerr said that was how was even with other teams
He was pushing them. During the regular season, some teams treated their games against the Bulls like a playoff game. The Bulls always had to be ready and be ready for a physical game. Even the worst teams played hard against the Bulls.
Those that ask the question about if Jordan would’ve succeed in 2020 I guarantee was born after 98.
Jordan was an arragant prick, but he won, that’s all the hell that matters
Look at how much leaveway the media gives Belicheck, Poppovich, and Kerr, they can say what the want and people will agree with them due to their professional success
Jordan is gangster. I imagine if yout not gangster it would be hard to understand.. No? How do his ex teamates feel about watching him play with the Wizards? Hmm.
We accept that Brady is was an a-hole because he won seven rings. He’d be on the sidelines screaming in the faces of teammates and coaches in public and we were like “yea, that’s Tom, isn’t he amazing?!!”
Couple of months later....... Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat go to the NBA Finals, losing in 6 games to LeBron, Anthony Davis, and the LA Lakers. LOL
I don’t agree with the jimmy butler comment🤨I think he wants to win a ring that’s why he’s trying to push his teammates cause obviously they went going to win the way they were playing.
Eisen will put you to sleep if you let him for 30 seconds. Did he ever play sports?
First! Love the show
RE is an all-time great journalist...but it amazes me how all these shows "cling" to every word and try to psycho-analyze.
That Jimmy Butler comment didn't age well
Manager of the team not the coach nor gm.
Zone defense would kill MJ. It started in his second season with the Wizards and he openly complained about allowing "Illegal defense" cuz he couldn't get around it. HE'd be great but to say he's run "roughshod" is a little bit of a stretch cuz the league change din a way he couldn't adapt to.
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kobe had 5 chips. 2006-2010 he was demonic. only a moron would think a player like Mj couldn't dominate because of ZONE DEFENSE! that's Lebron! Dallas beat him with zone in 2011 because he didn't have a real shot back then LOL
@medschool2626 a lot of Bronsexuals writing here these comments are beyond being noobs about basketball. sometimes i suspect some of them even know the ball is round. zone defense! 🤣🤣🤣🤣👌👌👌👌😂🤣🤣🤣
So a college defense would stop Jordan? 😁
He punched Will Purdue & Steve Kerr. What Black guys did he punch?
Profound52 🤣🤣🤣
Reggie Miller
What you trying to say...white folks are weak?
Christopher Horn 🤣🤣🤣
@Profound52 and Christopher Horn 😂😂😂
No but he would have trouble with todays social media political climate if he played today
Common man lol. Yes Jordan is great but not perfect and all he does is not good. We turn everything he does I to something good when it is not. The result done matter even what's bad is bad even if the outcome is good.
Bad take.
I guess it must be against the law to say anything against Jordan, people are just eating this stuff up. It's funny to me that the thing Jordan admires about himself is the one thing he does not like about anybody else. That is the win at all cost mentality. He hates Isiah, but Isiah was that way. That's why he was disliked so much. If you don't kiss his butt, he has a problem with you. Bye Mike
Why do you couch your position, with some straw man argument about not being allowed to hold a negative opinion of MJ. There are plenty of negative opinions about MJ out there even those specific to this topic. I dont believe MJ ever explicitly said he doesn't like the way Isaiah Thomas led his team, how would he really know? He hated the way they played dirty and for walking off the court in 91 etc. There is no contradiction here.
@@dnice4145 Well if there is I haven't seen or heard them, but if that's cool. He did say that he respected his game, but still hated him. The pistons did not play dirty, what they did was within the rules of the game at that time, and they were not the only ones playing that style of basketball. Most of the eastern conference played a physical style of basketball. And so what they didn't shake his hand, get over it. As Isiah said, Boston walked off the same way when the pistons beat them, and nobody said a word, but because Mike got his feelings hurt it became a big deal. Oh, and let's not forget the comments MJ made about the pistons not deserving to be champions, and that nobody outside of Detroit would miss them if they lost.
@medschool2626 I can't like your comment enough.
LBJ>MJ couldn’t last one day in this era of social media, too sensitive.
Bitch please...
GTFOH 😂😂😂😂
LeCramp wouldn't last a practice with him 🤣
The phony LeBroom James over MJ who's always unapologetically true to his love for the game? Please...
Sensitive dude dad was killed and they blamed him for it I like lebron and hate ppl always compare them but let's be honest MJ was huge celebrity nowhere near MJ. You think MJ would be faced by social media. The dude doesn't care lol. You see how he is living his life now
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
Who cares Rich. Come up with better topics 🤦♂️
Jordan was a dick. I thought that when he was playing, I thought that when he retired and nothing that has happened in the documentary has changed my mind. I could almost forgive the way he acted, but it was a one way street with him. He was a baby and expected special treatment while at the same time.
Well said